Excellent "Endora" reference, andre! I'm wondering if anybody here is too young to understand!
Speaking of Endora (yes, there's an old car connection), has anybody seen "Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte" (1964), with Bette Davis, Olivia deHavilland, Joseph Cotten, and Agnes Moorehead? It's my favorite flick and has been creeping me out for 40 years! It's hard to believe this was filmed at the same time as "Bewitched" because Agnes ("Endora") is almost unrecognizable in this flick! BTW, there are a couple of gorgeous '64 Buick Electra 225 six-window sedans in the movie, as well as a '64 Buick Special.
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I understand that K-F sold cars through the Sears Roebuck chain, under the "Allstate" brand. Do any of these survive? Did they differ in any big way from the others?
I've never seen nor heard of that movie (uh, yeah...), and I at least called out Andre on his Endora reference. (Six smacks to Bette by Olivia), "damn you, NOW will you shut your mouth?!":
Believe it or not, I actually have "Hush Hush, Sweet Charlotte" on the Tivo! I think I first saw it about 4 or 5 years ago and liked it, and when it was scheduled to come on again, sometime last summer, I set the Tivo to record it. The one line that really sticks out is when Bette Davis hollers "You vile, sorry little !!" I think it was directed at Olivia De Haviland?
I thought it had gotten over-written, but the last time I checked, it's still there. Just to show how all over the map my tastes are, "Rebecca", "Gone With the Wind", "Cannonball", "Tentacles" (the older, plump, frisky version of Shelly Winters in hi-def is both amusing and frightening), a few episodes of "Still Standing", "Bewitched", and "Newhart". Oh, and part IV of "The Stand" (I heard Bobby Brady was in it briefly and wanted to see if I could spot him)
Good movie though. Modern audiences might find it to be slow and too devoid of gore, but I liked it for the moody atmosphere and sense of mystery and tension. Even though it was made in 1964, it still had a classic feel about it.
Speaking of TV shows, I just saw the "Bewitched" episode where Paul Lynde was a driving instructor and the car was a 1965 Chevrolet Impala two-door hardtop with dog dish hubcaps.
Shoot, I should probably fly out there to save that 1973 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham before some knucklehead decides to 'donk' it! I'd be a little wary about rust on a Chicago area '73 Caddy. They're susceptible to rust along the rear window, bottom of the quarter panels, and along the side trim.
The Allstate was a re-branding of K-F's compact car, the Henry-J. Main differences were in minor stuff like grilles, trim, interiors, etc. And Allstates came standard with Sears batteries, tires, spark plugs, etc. I think the Allstate's interior was actually a bit nicer than the Henry-J.
Initially, Henry-J's were built without trunklids to make them cheaper, so I guess you just had to access the trunk from the back seat area. I think Allstates always had trunk lids, though.
According to Wikipedia, the Allstate was only sold in 1952-53. 1566 in '52 and 797 in '53. A lot of people probably didn't like the idea of buying a car through a catalog, but another problem was that Sears would not accept trade-ins.
Speaking of TV shows, I just saw the "Bewitched" episode where Paul Lynde was a driving instructor and the car was a 1965 Chevrolet Impala two-door hardtop with dog dish hubcaps.
I know Paul Lynde had basically one 'shtick', but I always found him funny. That episode must have been prior to when he was on the show as a semi-regular, Uncle something-or-rather, I can't remember! He was a 'warlock' on the show.
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That scene is intense, isn't it? Hard to believe Olivia is the same actress who portrayed saintly "Melanie" in 'Gone with the Wind' 25 years earlier, isn't it?! And from the looks of Bette in that particular link, I'd say she COMPLETELY understands Olivia's comment!
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Uncle Arthur. One thing that was a bit ironic, was that once he was cast as Uncle Arthur and was a regular, there was an episode where he lost his powers, and Samantha had to teach HIM how to drive!
I think the episode where Paul Lynde plays a driving instructor and is teaching Samantha how to drive was from the first season...one of the old black and white episodes. Those rarely get broadcast in reruns, although Nick At Nite used to show them years ago.
I always thought Paul Lynde was pretty funny, too. Often it wasn't his bad jokes or puns that were funny...they could be painful sometimes! But the other actors' reactions to him were what often made it work. And get a few martinis in him and put him on "Match Game" or "Hollywood Squares" and he could be a riot!
I saw a B & W episode of Bewitched where a very young Richard Dreyfuss guest-starred as a young warlock who was persuing Samantha despite the fact she was married. To keep on topic, the next episode showed Darrin pulling up to a rustic cabin in a 1966 Corvair.
To keep on topic, the next episode showed Darrin pulling up to a rustic cabin in a 1966 Corvair.
That got me thinking...what was the newest car they ever showed Samantha and Darrin having? The show's last season was 1971-72, but the newest car I can remember the Stephenses having was a 1970 Impala convertible. I vaguely remember a 1970 Bonneville convertible being used in the Salem episodes. And I recall a few 1971 full-sized Chevies used as police cars or taxis.
And for the most part, I believe they were a one car family, but there was one episode where they showed Samantha getting out of a white or pale yellow '68 Chevelle wagon, with fake woodgrain. However, this same car doubled as the Kravitzes' car in a couple episodes, as well.
That's a good question. I think I probably was no longer watching by '71-72. What are "the Salem episodes"?
Being a Chevy lover as a kid, I always remember looking forward to the commercials on 'Bewitched' and 'Bonanza'. I absolutely remember the teaser ads for the '69 Caprice on 'Bewitched', advising viewers to see the new models at their Chevrolet dealer's that very week's introduction night! I remember seeing a shot of the headlight washers that were optional.
The Mrs. Kravitz character was pretty funny. There were two actresses who played her over the years. That first woman sure had that 'disappearing chin' look!
Back to cars...I always remember Darrin's boss, Larry Tate, and his wife drove Caprices.
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That's a good question. I think I probably was no longer watching by '71-72. What are "the Salem episodes"?
Sometime over the summer of 1970, a fire broke out on the Bewitched set, destroying mainly the kitchen area. The set was rebuilt, but not in time for the 1970-71 season, so a storyline was written in that put the cast and crew on location in Salem, Mass for a few episodes, until the set was rebuilt.
The easiest way to spot the rebuilt kitchen set is by the really fake looking staircase in the kitchen, where the closet used to be. Whenever it was viewed from an angle, you can tell it was built to a forced perspective, with the upper steps getting progressively shorter, and the top ones just having a little trim lip, but nothing to stand on. The kitchen was also enlarged and expanded out into the back yard, with a little dining area.
I think Darrin's parents also drove Caprices. Larry Tate was also seen occasionally driving a Corvette, of the '68-72 variety. I don't think he ever drove a '63-67 style. I think Larry Tate is the reason I tend to associate the '68 and newer Corvettes as midlife-crisis cars!
**Edit: I just went to the internet movie car database (http://imcdb.org) and looked up Bewitched. Here's a sequoia green 1972 Impala convertible parked in the Stephenses driveway! I don't remember seeing this car, though. That episode was on fairly recently, too, but I've been catching them on WGN, and they're heavily edited to make room for more commercials, so it might have been cut out.
I never watched Bewitched much....but I did watch I Dream of Jeannie a bit when I was younger, and that show seemed like a Pontiac commercial. The shows also must have had some of the same people working on them, as they always seemed like similar shows to me, with similar sets.
A Youtube user made a couple videos detailing some of the cars seen over the years:
I saw that one on Wednesday, I think (it's on MeTV--they do comedy reruns all day, mostly '80s and prior); it's on at 8 a.m. (right after 'I Dream of Jeannie', naturally). He almost pulls their 1970 Impala convertible out into the street in front of a '64 Impala 2HT, but of course the collision is averted w/witchcraft. Also seen in that episode are Larry's yellow '69-ish Vette convertible and Darrin was driving a very cool Rallye Green Poly with black top '69 Camaro RS convertible, which clearly would fetch a pretty penny now.
Some of those Pontiacs on 'Jeannie' (OK, most) are positively drool-worthy. I do remember Dr. Bellows having both a '65 Grand Prix and a '66 Bonneville four-door hardtop (probably a Brougham, it had a vinyl top); they're probably in the video somewhere, but I don't have the patience to sit through seven minutes right now (I have to go pick up my Chinese food, dammit). As a large-wagon fan, I am quite fond of that '68 Executive Safai Mrs. Bellows is driving (this was the only model with the fake-wood trim that year; Catalinas and Bonnevilles didn't have it). Quite a rare beast these days, and I'm quite often a little shocked at what mid-60s Pontiac wagons, especially loaded versions, will fetch on eBay.
Cool stuff...what's the story behind that 300SL gullwing with the wacky paint job filmed near the Barris pickup? It would have been nearly new back then. The person filming knew enough to film the engine too...also looks like the upholstery was changed.
Some nice cars there, 50s style customs are much nicer looking than much of what came later.
.....I saw that '69 Chevy stepside again tonight when I was walking over to get my Chinese carry-out, in practically the same location, so the owner must be a 'local'. In good shape, and of course some variations more than others, those '67-72 Chevy trucks are starting to fetch some big bucks (kinda makes me wish my grandpa had kept his '71 Longhorn, 350 4-barrel; damn, that thing was fast).
On my street, I spotted an '85 (the owner told me, otherwise I can't tell) Fleetwood Brougham, white with tan top and leather interior, which is a nice combo on this, with sunroof (it's in OK shape but clearly has a pretty inferior repaint---for sale, $2000, which sounds about right if it's mechanically sound). Also, a '92-ish (it had the slotted wheels but was pre-E320) Mercedes 300CE, unusual around here (common cars in this 'hood are your typical ghetto cruisers: old Civics and Sentras, early '90s GM anything from Cavaliers to STS's, etc.). One neighbor has a '00-ish five-door SAAB 9-3, also a bit 'different' here.
Yeah I thought some of the customs were really beautifully done. They used what they could find or they made what they needed---there wasn't a big aftermarket then.
A few unusual beasts today. Oddest one was an off white 58 Ford convertible, top down, obviously restored - on the back of a flatbed tow truck. Also saw a pretty green 71 Camaro, 2 Subaru SVX, an angular ca. 1980 Corolla, early 80s Isuzu diesel pickup, a pristine looking mid 70s Mercury wagon, and a donked 80s Caprice.
....I'm watching 'Police Woman' right now, and Pepper is driving a '75 Ford LTD with a power sunroof (how many of those could there be, and why would any municipality h foave paid for such a thing?). Guess that's why it's, um, fictional TV.
More likely she'd have driven a Custom 500 with blackwall tires and dog dish hubcaps. Well, didn't Sheriff Taylor get a new Galaxie 500 police cruiser every year? Mayberry must've had a pretty good tax base or Andy was as corrupt as Boss Hogg.
....I'm watching 'Police Woman' right now, and Pepper is driving a '75 Ford LTD with a power sunroof (how many of those could there be, and why would any municipality h foave paid for such a thing?). Guess that's why it's, um, fictional TV.
Was this LTD a coupe or sedan? Didn't sunroofs (power or not) tend to be a coupe-only thing in the earlier days? Or maybe it just happened to be that coupes were more likely to be ordered with them?
Rarest and best CLS variant is on ebay...seller is wrong on the original price, but this was about a 30K option, and you still had to buy the watch. Price is steep, but it's an cool looking car.
.....Angie certainly was more than a little hot. Of course, when the show was on I was like 6 or 7, so I wasn't thinking in a similar vein (or WITH a similar vein ) as kyfdx. Nyuk, nyuk.
Pepper's LTD on the show was a sedan (that light yellowy-tan with brown top, power sunroof covered in vinyl), Andre. The only sedans I've ever recalled seeing with power sunroofs back then were MBs, Lincolns and Cadillacs, and even relatively seldom on the latter two. They weren't even that common on coupes, either.....sometimes on Eldos, Marks, Rivieras, Toronados, maybe? I'm guessing maybe a ten percent take rate on even those back then.
Lemko, I thought Andy always had Custom 300s or whatever the lower-line big sedan was at the time (later, probably Custom 500). I think they quit using the Custom moniker at all around 1973 or '74, when the Galaxie 500 became the 'base' big Ford (they drive a nice '73 four-door hardtop (real, not the pillared version), which I can't imagine happening, either, on 'Streets of San Francisco'). Lots of Fords-on-cop-shows back then (Hawaii Five-O and Charlie's Angels, too, of course).
Scary that a car that probably cost close to $150k (yeah, I thought that claim of $297k sounded a little, um, exaggerated--but, Fin, do tell what it did cost if you know) back then would be selling for $50k four years later, though the 52k miles don't help. What does that work out to be on a per-mile basis (never mind gas and maintenance)? Though I usually like such things, that metallic gold leather is a bit much.
I'd say it stickered for around 140K-ish. The price there is way high too, real world money on that car is low 40s at the most. Rarity is cool, but only a few MB freaks like me care, and I'm not going to assume those payments.
So, let's say around $100K depreciation, plus running costs...around 50K miles...maybe close to $2/mile sounds good. Not cheap!
....(do ya get the idea I watch too much BS television?): a '70 or '71 Camaro Rally Sport, with those cool, fancy finned hubcaps, I'm gonna guess #2156 Astro Blue, with black vinyl top, driven by Darrin on 'Bewitched'.
On Hawaii Five-O, a ridiculously fancy '68 Ford LTD, hidden headlights, finned hubcaps similar to Chevy's, again, light blue metallic with black vinyl top 4HT, used as a TAXI (light on top) in this episode. Uh, yeah. One of the best cars in that show (regularly, for the first season or two) was Danno's '66 Galaxie 500 four-door hardtop, 390 emblems clearly visible, black with HOT-[non-permissible content removed] red vinyl interior (kinda fancy looking combo), yet dog-dish caps. Also, just spotted a black with white top and red interior '63 Impala convertible, and a '68 black Fury four-door hardtop (inexplicably driven by Chin Ho Kelly, though all other 5-0 cop cars were Fords). Excellent.
In several early Five-O episodes, despite McGarrett's usual '68 Merc Park Lane Brougham, several scenes show him driving a '67 Merc Marquis 2HT, black with red interior. Also a few with another '68 Park Lane 4HT, but tan with tan interior (maybe when he was on Maui instead of Oahu, I dunno? I think I mentioned it already, sorry).
I'm cyber-stealing all those cars in my next life.
a '70 or '71 Camaro Rally Sport, with those cool, fancy finned hubcaps, I'm gonna guess #2156 Astro Blue, with black vinyl top, driven by Darrin on 'Bewitched'. j
That would mean then, that you're on Dick #2 out there. Must be the time zone change, because out here I'm still on Dick #1. Darrin's still driving around in a pretty blue '68 Camaro hardtop. In one episode, Larry pulled up in a red '68 Caprice coupe.
Did Darrin ever get a '69 Camaro? I seem to remember an episode where Samantha was driving a green '69 with white stripes, but it only showed up once. She took it to some community meeting, and in the parking lot I swear there must have been about 7 or 8 Camaros of '67-69 vintage. It almost looked like a Chevy dealership!
I saw one of those 67/68 Plymouth's we were talking about on one of these threads. It was a convertible in that light yellow color that was popular back then. The sides and rear are nice, but I still think the front end is ugly. I don't know why. Its not the vertical headlights because I like those on the 63-66 Pontiac and 65/66 Ford.
Shifty, didn't you have a '56 Dodge at one time? I think a D-500 even?
I'd imagine those 4-door hardtops are very rare today. They didn't make a lot of them to begin with. While wagons and convertibles would have been rarer, I'm sure those had a much higher survival rate. One thing that's interesting about the '56 Mopar 4-door hardtops, is that they used the same roof as the 4-door pillared sedan. Mopar didn't have the money that GM did to make a completely dedicated 4-door hardtop, so they had to piece one together the best they could. With GM, the C-pillar was moved forward compared to the regular 4-door sedans, to allow for a back door window that went all the way down. This also created a car that was smaller inside than a regular 4-door, as the rear seat was moved forward a bit, too.
The 4-door pillared Mopars had a rear door with a roll-down window and a little spacer window in back, which would pivot on the nicer models. To compensate for the bigger back door and further-back C-pillar, on the hardtops, the little spacer window was attached to the main window, and as you rolled the main window down, the spacer would pivot down, out of sight. It's a really neat looking thing, but I'm sure they rattled and leaked like crazy!
Temps got into the 70's, and not a cloud in the sky! Perfect convertible weather. We've had other nice days, but this is the first time I've driven the convertible this year, other than moving it out of the garage about two weeks ago.
And one thing that was actually kinda refreshing...normally when I drive one of my old beasts to work, someone parks a Prius or some other hybrid or economy car near it, as if they're making a statement. But today, someone parked a monstrous F-250 crew cab 4x4 in this beautiful shade of a dark bluish-green. Made my car look downright tiny!
Looks good...those wheels still really set it off too, nice period touch.
I am in Vancouver now...weather isn't so nice, so not many cool sights on the road. Did see a weird late 80s Mitsubishi SUV kind of thing, diesel, RHD, and a RHD Skyline. In the parking garage where I am, I am parked next to a stripper BMW E36 sedan, hubcaps and all...I don't think they were ever sold in the US in that spec...also in the same row is a B-class.
i really wanted to put the full insurance back on the mustang this weekend, but since we are paying about 550 a month for the 4 vehicles we have on the road now, i am waiting at least until may. we have 2 young drivers.
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Lemko, I think I remember that episode, but I'm fairly certain it was actually a Barracuda convertible ('67 or 68), as Batman, as far as I know, exclusively used Chrysler products (right down to the Imperial Alfred would drive for Aunt Harriet). But, you may be right, I haven't seen every episode (close, but I can't deal with certain villians, so they're turned off. Anything with the Joker or Catwoman, though are must-watches, absolutely. Penguin and (Frank Gorshin's) Riddler are good, too.
Under the Family auto policy, all members of the household are covered including the youthful operators. They don't have to be declared to the company as that only increases your premium to the point where the company charges more than what the youth will be driving.
If the company asks about any youthful drivers, then you are obligated to reply, but until then, they are automatically covered. "Company doesn't ask, you don't tell."
If you sign a specific driver exclusion endorsement which names a specific driver, they will be excluded, but then some states have declared that to be invalid as far as the state financial responsibility laws are concerned.
Hey Andre - I finally got to look at my May issue of Hemmings Classic Car. The feature is Pontiac. They even have a short write up on a 67 GP drop top. Some interesting info on Pontiac engines is in the issue.
My favorite full size Pontiacs are 58, 61, 63 and 65/66. I also like the mid sixties Lemans and the 69 vintage GP which I believe was actually an intermediate by then.
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Speaking of Endora (yes, there's an old car connection), has anybody seen "Hush...Hush, Sweet Charlotte" (1964), with Bette Davis, Olivia deHavilland, Joseph Cotten, and Agnes Moorehead? It's my favorite flick and has been creeping me out for 40 years! It's hard to believe this was filmed at the same time as "Bewitched" because Agnes ("Endora") is almost unrecognizable in this flick! BTW, there are a couple of gorgeous '64 Buick Electra 225 six-window sedans in the movie, as well as a '64 Buick Special.
Bill
Do any of these survive?
Did they differ in any big way from the others?
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Fvh2zswznrg#t=29
I thought it had gotten over-written, but the last time I checked, it's still there. Just to show how all over the map my tastes are, "Rebecca", "Gone With the Wind", "Cannonball", "Tentacles" (the older, plump, frisky version of Shelly Winters in hi-def is both amusing and frightening), a few episodes of "Still Standing", "Bewitched", and "Newhart". Oh, and part IV of "The Stand" (I heard Bobby Brady was in it briefly and wanted to see if I could spot him)
Good movie though. Modern audiences might find it to be slow and too devoid of gore, but I liked it for the moody atmosphere and sense of mystery and tension. Even though it was made in 1964, it still had a classic feel about it.
Initially, Henry-J's were built without trunklids to make them cheaper, so I guess you just had to access the trunk from the back seat area. I think Allstates always had trunk lids, though.
According to Wikipedia, the Allstate was only sold in 1952-53. 1566 in '52 and 797 in '53. A lot of people probably didn't like the idea of buying a car through a catalog, but another problem was that Sears would not accept trade-ins.
I know Paul Lynde had basically one 'shtick', but I always found him funny. That episode must have been prior to when he was on the show as a semi-regular, Uncle something-or-rather, I can't remember! He was a 'warlock' on the show.
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I think the episode where Paul Lynde plays a driving instructor and is teaching Samantha how to drive was from the first season...one of the old black and white episodes. Those rarely get broadcast in reruns, although Nick At Nite used to show them years ago.
I always thought Paul Lynde was pretty funny, too. Often it wasn't his bad jokes or puns that were funny...they could be painful sometimes! But the other actors' reactions to him were what often made it work. And get a few martinis in him and put him on "Match Game" or "Hollywood Squares" and he could be a riot!
That got me thinking...what was the newest car they ever showed Samantha and Darrin having? The show's last season was 1971-72, but the newest car I can remember the Stephenses having was a 1970 Impala convertible. I vaguely remember a 1970 Bonneville convertible being used in the Salem episodes. And I recall a few 1971 full-sized Chevies used as police cars or taxis.
And for the most part, I believe they were a one car family, but there was one episode where they showed Samantha getting out of a white or pale yellow '68 Chevelle wagon, with fake woodgrain. However, this same car doubled as the Kravitzes' car in a couple episodes, as well.
Being a Chevy lover as a kid, I always remember looking forward to the commercials on 'Bewitched' and 'Bonanza'. I absolutely remember the teaser ads for the '69 Caprice on 'Bewitched', advising viewers to see the new models at their Chevrolet dealer's that very week's introduction night! I remember seeing a shot of the headlight washers that were optional.
The Mrs. Kravitz character was pretty funny. There were two actresses who played her over the years. That first woman sure had that 'disappearing chin' look!
Back to cars...I always remember Darrin's boss, Larry Tate, and his wife drove Caprices.
Bill
Sometime over the summer of 1970, a fire broke out on the Bewitched set, destroying mainly the kitchen area. The set was rebuilt, but not in time for the 1970-71 season, so a storyline was written in that put the cast and crew on location in Salem, Mass for a few episodes, until the set was rebuilt.
The easiest way to spot the rebuilt kitchen set is by the really fake looking staircase in the kitchen, where the closet used to be. Whenever it was viewed from an angle, you can tell it was built to a forced perspective, with the upper steps getting progressively shorter, and the top ones just having a little trim lip, but nothing to stand on. The kitchen was also enlarged and expanded out into the back yard, with a little dining area.
I think Darrin's parents also drove Caprices. Larry Tate was also seen occasionally driving a Corvette, of the '68-72 variety. I don't think he ever drove a '63-67 style. I think Larry Tate is the reason I tend to associate the '68 and newer Corvettes as midlife-crisis cars!
**Edit: I just went to the internet movie car database (http://imcdb.org) and looked up Bewitched. Here's a sequoia green 1972 Impala convertible parked in the Stephenses driveway! I don't remember seeing this car, though. That episode was on fairly recently, too, but I've been catching them on WGN, and they're heavily edited to make room for more commercials, so it might have been cut out.
A Youtube user made a couple videos detailing some of the cars seen over the years:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iax-0rIiqgU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScoW9KveKqY
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/?p=1836
There are 3 Parts, so you can waste a LOT of time watching this!
Some nice cars there, 50s style customs are much nicer looking than much of what came later.
On my street, I spotted an '85 (the owner told me, otherwise I can't tell) Fleetwood Brougham, white with tan top and leather interior, which is a nice combo on this, with sunroof (it's in OK shape but clearly has a pretty inferior repaint---for sale, $2000, which sounds about right if it's mechanically sound). Also, a '92-ish (it had the slotted wheels but was pre-E320) Mercedes 300CE, unusual around here (common cars in this 'hood are your typical ghetto cruisers: old Civics and Sentras, early '90s GM anything from Cavaliers to STS's, etc.). One neighbor has a '00-ish five-door SAAB 9-3, also a bit 'different' here.
Was this LTD a coupe or sedan? Didn't sunroofs (power or not) tend to be a coupe-only thing in the earlier days? Or maybe it just happened to be that coupes were more likely to be ordered with them?
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Pepper's LTD on the show was a sedan (that light yellowy-tan with brown top, power sunroof covered in vinyl), Andre. The only sedans I've ever recalled seeing with power sunroofs back then were MBs, Lincolns and Cadillacs, and even relatively seldom on the latter two. They weren't even that common on coupes, either.....sometimes on Eldos, Marks, Rivieras, Toronados, maybe? I'm guessing maybe a ten percent take rate on even those back then.
Lemko, I thought Andy always had Custom 300s or whatever the lower-line big sedan was at the time (later, probably Custom 500). I think they quit using the Custom moniker at all around 1973 or '74, when the Galaxie 500 became the 'base' big Ford (they drive a nice '73 four-door hardtop (real, not the pillared version), which I can't imagine happening, either, on 'Streets of San Francisco'). Lots of Fords-on-cop-shows back then (Hawaii Five-O and Charlie's Angels, too, of course).
So, let's say around $100K depreciation, plus running costs...around 50K miles...maybe close to $2/mile sounds good. Not cheap!
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On Hawaii Five-O, a ridiculously fancy '68 Ford LTD, hidden headlights, finned hubcaps similar to Chevy's, again, light blue metallic with black vinyl top 4HT, used as a TAXI (light on top) in this episode. Uh, yeah. One of the best cars in that show (regularly, for the first season or two) was Danno's '66 Galaxie 500 four-door hardtop, 390 emblems clearly visible, black with HOT-[non-permissible content removed] red vinyl interior (kinda fancy looking combo), yet dog-dish caps. Also, just spotted a black with white top and red interior '63 Impala convertible, and a '68 black Fury four-door hardtop (inexplicably driven by Chin Ho Kelly, though all other 5-0 cop cars were Fords). Excellent.
In several early Five-O episodes, despite McGarrett's usual '68 Merc Park Lane Brougham, several scenes show him driving a '67 Merc Marquis 2HT, black with red interior. Also a few with another '68 Park Lane 4HT, but tan with tan interior (maybe when he was on Maui instead of Oahu, I dunno? I think I mentioned it already, sorry).
I'm cyber-stealing all those cars in my next life.
That would mean then, that you're on Dick #2 out there. Must be the time zone change, because out here I'm still on Dick #1. Darrin's still driving around in a pretty blue '68 Camaro hardtop. In one episode, Larry pulled up in a red '68 Caprice coupe.
Did Darrin ever get a '69 Camaro? I seem to remember an episode where Samantha was driving a green '69 with white stripes, but it only showed up once. She took it to some community meeting, and in the parking lot I swear there must have been about 7 or 8 Camaros of '67-69 vintage. It almost looked like a Chevy dealership!
I'd imagine those 4-door hardtops are very rare today. They didn't make a lot of them to begin with. While wagons and convertibles would have been rarer, I'm sure those had a much higher survival rate. One thing that's interesting about the '56 Mopar 4-door hardtops, is that they used the same roof as the 4-door pillared sedan. Mopar didn't have the money that GM did to make a completely dedicated 4-door hardtop, so they had to piece one together the best they could. With GM, the C-pillar was moved forward compared to the regular 4-door sedans, to allow for a back door window that went all the way down. This also created a car that was smaller inside than a regular 4-door, as the rear seat was moved forward a bit, too.
The 4-door pillared Mopars had a rear door with a roll-down window and a little spacer window in back, which would pivot on the nicer models. To compensate for the bigger back door and further-back C-pillar, on the hardtops, the little spacer window was attached to the main window, and as you rolled the main window down, the spacer would pivot down, out of sight. It's a really neat looking thing, but I'm sure they rattled and leaked like crazy!
Temps got into the 70's, and not a cloud in the sky! Perfect convertible weather. We've had other nice days, but this is the first time I've driven the convertible this year, other than moving it out of the garage about two weeks ago.
And one thing that was actually kinda refreshing...normally when I drive one of my old beasts to work, someone parks a Prius or some other hybrid or economy car near it, as if they're making a statement. But today, someone parked a monstrous F-250 crew cab 4x4 in this beautiful shade of a dark bluish-green. Made my car look downright tiny!
I am in Vancouver now...weather isn't so nice, so not many cool sights on the road. Did see a weird late 80s Mitsubishi SUV kind of thing, diesel, RHD, and a RHD Skyline. In the parking garage where I am, I am parked next to a stripper BMW E36 sedan, hubcaps and all...I don't think they were ever sold in the US in that spec...also in the same row is a B-class.
I had a '55 Royal Lancer 2D HT, yep. Sold it to a woman pilot and she drove off to Colorado with it. It ran great.
If the company asks about any youthful drivers, then you are obligated to reply, but until then, they are automatically covered. "Company doesn't ask, you don't tell."
If you sign a specific driver exclusion endorsement which names a specific driver, they will be excluded, but then some states have declared that to be invalid as far as the state financial responsibility laws are concerned.
My favorite full size Pontiacs are 58, 61, 63 and 65/66. I also like the mid sixties Lemans and the 69 vintage GP which I believe was actually an intermediate by then.