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E bay is a great place to get cheap oem parts. I just got a trunk tray delivered for $92. It was from Bernadi but through eBay. If you go to Bernadi directly it is 81 but to ship to Cali was an extra 30. Don't ask me why it is cheaper through eBay. Hope this helps.
dealer incentives with the forum.
Because the of the new month
and Honda not meeting their sales
goals they might be motivated.
Thanks
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
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This is long. But I have to share my car buying experience with this community.
So here is my deal in Chicago land area. I research on the vehicles and read all advice Brian has provided on this forum. I send emails to 20+ dealers asking for price breakup as below. I clearly mentioned that I will not consider quote if dealer cannot provide me price breakup. I ask them to provide me also vehicle stock number to make sure they have vehicle in stock. This also allowed me to verify vehicle online where ever dealer's inventory is available to browse. OR ask another dealer to verify for you
Sale Price
Tax
License/Registration
Destination
Doc Fees
Any applicable Rebates
Any add-on accessories
The reason I ask for price breakup because dealers can quote you price with rebates that they know you may not qualified for. Or will exclude destination charges from the quote and later play a game of innocent mistakes. Or added accessories to jack-up the price. I noted above in spreadsheet for each dealers to make an easy comparison.
I also did my research on Chicago land dealers to make sure I do not waste time with unworthy dealers. I would suggest staying away from City Honda, Grossing Honda in Chicago area.
Fletcher John, Valley Honda, Grand Honda, Continental Honda are one of the most professional dealers.
Initially I narrow down to Honda Accord for 2015 Honda Accord EX-L with Modern Steel Metallic color and Gray Leather. The lowest quote I received (including $1,000 dealers rebate) was:
EPRICE: 23,397
DESTINATION: 820
OTD PRICE: $26,357.74
Another dealer was ready to break price by another $100. So my deal could have been $26,257.74 OTD.
But, later we decided to go for Honda CRV. I re-run the same process as above. By now, I know which dealer to watch for. My 2015 Honda CR-V EX-L AWD with Basque Red Pearl II and Gray Leather deal was:
EPRICE: $25,951.57
DESTINATION: $880.00
OTD PRICE: $29,195.31
Note: One of my friend also tag along with me when buying CRV. I received CRV price for two vehicle.
Moral of the story, more the merrier
Thanks Brian, Steve and rest of user who has contributed on this forum educating consumers. I wish good luck to new buyers.
2013 Accord EX-L 18k miles out of the door price of 21000. Hematite color with black leather. Smells brand new inside, not a scratch or a dent anywhere, looks like the driver seat was the only one used. 1 owner trade-in.
Thank you for your time.
Dmitri. New England area.
YOU LEFT OUT 2 VERY IMPORTANT PRICES TO YOUR PUZZLE.
Selling price, Taxes paid on vehicle.
Just for the fun of it I'm going to take a run at what you paid before taxes, tags, etc...........$19,283
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
I'm in California and after taxes (2470) and other fee's it would come out to $29503 and some change.
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Sale Price (includes destination): $22900.00
Tax: $1374.00
Doc Fees: $250.00
OTD Price: $24524.00
I paid the license plate fee at the DMV that is why is not included in the above price. There was only one dealer (within a 3 hour driving distance) that had EX models on the lot that I could find, so I was limited of what to choose from. Thank again for the advice.
Overall you made a nice deal ........................good job negotiating
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
First of all, I bought the 2015 Camry SE silver with gray interior at last. Because after test drive both, I found Camry is more quiet and comfortable, I won't say any about Accord, But if you want a quiet car, go test drive Camry before you buy the Accord.
I spend 60% time on find the accord and negotiate price with dealer. so here is the lowest quote I got from dealer. I feel it can be still about $200-300 lower if you push really hard.
Trim: Accord EX white with beige interior
Location: west WA (Spokane, Pullman, Lewiston, CDA)
$23000 (Include destination, splash guard)
+8.9% tax
+about $270 tag, document and license fees.
I have been reading the thread, and i am not sure if anybody mentioned
about whats a good price of Accord Ex-L w/out Navi here in Oahu.
After reading the references,
I would never buy it above 27,000 OTD.
Is that too low for Hawaii or my calculations are wrong?
I can only see 3 dealers here, MSRP varies from 28-32K,
others including dest price.
I will not buy if I don't get the price that I want (or is at least acceptable to me),
this is going to be just the second car.
Or should I buy from the mainland and ship it here?
shipping is 1k.
Any suggestion/info would be highly appreciated.
Cheers!
In SoCal you could make a deal for 2k below Invoice on your model Accord. Buying at one of the 3 dealerships in Oahu for 1k below dealers invoice would be a wash. ( after considering shipping costs. ) shoot for 1k below plus consider each dealerships doc fee charge into the price equation.
good luck.
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
so should i shoot around 27,500-28,000 OTD? thanks
I am in the Tampa area and received a few quotes for an Accord Sport 6MT. Am I being unreasonable for wanting to pay $23000 for the first one and $22300 for the second?
First has leather and tinted windows:
msrp: $24,685.00
discount: 2,108.00
best price first: 22,577.00
sales tax: 1,104.74
county tax: 50.00
dealer fee: 699.00 (welcome to Florida)
new tag fee: 400.00
title fee: 79.87
tire fee: 1.50
battery fee: 5.00
*total: $25,214.11
*Their math gets fuzzy here because there is a $297.00 out of the blue unless it was supposed to be part of the taxes. Their tax is lower than the other quote below which incidentally has a lower selling price.
Second:
Vehicle Price: $24,685.00
Savings: - $3,223.00
Price: $21,462.00
Sales Tax (estimate): + $1,386.03
Tag/Registration Fees (estimate): + $498.75
Tire/Battery/MVWEA: + $6.50
Dealer Service Fee: + $699.95 (Looks familiar?)
Balance Due (estimate): $24,053.23
Thanks,
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Your 1st deal cant be figure out until you disclose pricing for tinted windows and dealer installed leather seats.
Your models invoice price w/ dest / charge on the Sport 6mt is..... $22,662 ( Nada pricing ) Edmunds lists $22,663
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
I am in Atlanta and in the market for Accord (not sure the trim yet)
I got a quote below: from Curry Honda
1. LX CVT Sedan
MSRP: $23,725 (including Destination)
Sale Price: $20,287 Excludes Taxes, Fees & options / accessories not listed
2. EX-L CVT Sedan
MSRP: $29,240 (including Destination)
Sale Price: $24,817 Excludes Taxes, Fees & options / accessories not listed
Please let me know if the price is reasonable and what should I ask the dealer about, to get the whole picture?
Thanks
Benny
Ask for an OTD price that includes a breakdown of EVERYTHING.
Additional info from Curry Honda - for EX L
Doc Fee $599
Splash guard & body side $452
Tax $1895.25
Tag / Title $41
Total $27,903.25
It means my purchase price is $27,075. Which is not what is quoted.
Am I missing something here?
Agreed selling price......................24,817
Taxes and fee's ...........................+ 2987.25
........................................................................
................................................... $ 27,804.25....OTD pricing
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
below is the breakdown of your deal
EXL invoice w/ dest charge 26,817 - 24,817 = .............2000 below dealers invoice - dealers 599 doc fee = 1401 below dealers invoice - Over payment on added accessories about $225 ( Splash Guards , Molding not sold at invoice price to you ).
your quoted deal is close to 1200 below dealers invoice price
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
If tax is calculated on selling price only = 7% x 24,817 = $1,737
I was quoted $1,895.25 on Taxes of 7% (which he wrote down Tax 7% - I don't make up 7%)
What is the best deal in Atlanta as far as below dealers invoice... can I get it to 2000 below or is it just dreaming? It is great explanation that I am now only 1200 below invoice.. which I don't think it is good...
I will only buy a EXL model with no add on's... If you cant accommodate me I will buy at another dealership. Seems simple enough for any dealership that wants a possible sale.
Email above dealership let them know...... Sell me the same vehicle without add' ons I buy from you today. Yes or NO
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Can you get 2k below invoice probably? How do you do that? By getting as many dealerships involved in the price wars as far as your willing to travel. The more dealers you contact the better you will do pricewise. Pitting one dealer against the next fighting for your business.................. That's how you play the game
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
2015 Accord EX-L sedan 4 cyl CVT
MSRP $29,240.00
Selling price $24,509.00 (includes destination)
Dealer fee 489.00
Appearance pkg 119.00
Decklid Spoiler 312.00
Body Side Moldings 245.00
Nitrogen 88.00
Electronic title fee 52.00
GA 7% TAVT 1895.25
Tag fee 20.00
Title fee 18.00
Lemon Law 3.00
Total drive out price $27,750.25
I asked for the spoiler and side moldings.
Also, the TAVT in GA is calculated on the fair market value (FMV) of the vehicle multiplied by the current rate which is 7%.
Also, I waited almost a month for mine as I didn't want a vehicle with the front bumper tag installed with 2 holes in the bumper, this was a deal breaker for me. They were able to get me a vehicle straight off the truck from Honda.
The cheapest quote so far from a dealer in Houston where I bought my van before (I live in Atlanta).
Selling Price 26,450
Fees 270
Tax 1703 (I am not sure how tax is working since I have to pay more in GA when I register).
Total 28,423
Do you know if TX collect $1703 and I just need to pay the difference when I register in GA or I have to pay tax twice?
The cheapest from Atlanta:
Selling price 26,574
Fees 679
Options 686 (It is mandatory)
Tax 2035
Total 29974
Assuming tax is the same, the Houston quote total is 28,423 + 332 (2035 - 1703) = 28,755
It is still $1200 different and I am not sure I can get that....
Let me know..
My local dealer quoted $1599 for the leather seats and $216 + tax for the tint. The first dealer told me they give their best price upfront and do not negotiate.
At this point I am going to offer $23300 plus floor mat, wheel locks, and windows tint. to see.
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
EXL V-6 invoice price = $27,890 if your selling price of 26,450 includes the 820 destination charge buy car its a good deal.
I don't know how your sales tax will be collect. If dealer adds it to the selling price then your done otherwise you will have to cut a check to your states Dmv for 7%
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
Got an Accord 6MT today:
Selling Price: $20665.01
Dealer Fee: $589.00
Tax $1275
Tags: $366
Some other fees brought the total to
$23,000.00 OTD.
Thank you for your help!
I got my EX-L V6 lowered to
Selling Price 26,000
Fees 700 (dealer fee, nitrogen, appearance package)
Taxes 2,100
Total 28,800
But I am trying to know how much I could save if I just go with LX or Sport.
Newman1811:
My lowest price above is from Hennessy Honda in Woodstock..
Could you tell me who you dealt with there?
Thanks
You can find all car prices.... MSRP vs Invoice price at the top of this page where it says Make Model Year. I also use http://www.nada.com/ for new car pricing. Check out both sites. You can also read reviews/ incentives on any vehicle.
There are several factors that will help or hurt you in new car buying .
Getting that real good deal / lowest price in your State depends on Supply and Demand at dealerships. Knowing how to Negotiate ( getting as many dealerships involved as far as your willing to travel to. ) Using the internet's emails and direct phone calls to the Int. Mgr. Buying closer to months end. That is the formula for having less stress finding a good deal and getting a good price. Your biggest hurdle right now is most dealers on April 12th will not give into that better price yet. Wait till the end of the month to nail that good deal.
Your the only person who is going to know what your best deal is from the actions you apply above. All of us can only give you a general pricing guide and negotiating tips to close your deal. Apply them.
Your EXL V-6 deal is 2000 below dealers invoice ( a very good deal.) That's after taking the 700 dollar fee's into consideration and assuming dealer added the $820 dest / charge to the selling price.
Your target price for your area is 1500 to 2k below dealers invoice. If you get the low or high end of this target price you have done well. Use this as your guide. If you try for over 2k below pricing you may need to work harder on negotiating and get down and dirty with your targeted dealerships.
Good luck
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE