2013 and earlier BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

maestro64

I order a Black Sapphire Metallic, Manual trans, premium and sport package, and fold down rear seat. I didn't load it up. MSRP was $44,395, so I am about $1600 over invoice, not counting what I got them to throw in.

I am buying not leasing, and I did my own financing, since they said they could not beat my 5.5% I was able to get.

hellfish

It seems that allocation and total slots filled plays a big role in price. I was able to get an October build at $1,700 off MSRP on a 335 (cold, prem, sport, manual) at a dealer who still had all their launch 335's at the time I ordered. The other dealers varied on discount from $0-900 depending on their open slots (some had no availability until Jan. 07) and launch inventory. If the car doesn't overheat or get held in port b/c of faulty drivetrain , I should have it in approx. 7 weeks from original order date. I left open the option to either lease or buy and had to put $1,000 down when I placed order.

maestro64

Exactly, the dealer I dealt with had two allocation slots left to be built in October so I was able to change its configuration before it was built. They were willing to deal on the car since it was guarrantee sale. Mine is due next week, asume the mine is not held up in the port .
What have you heard about the drivetrain issue? I just posted this message"

sfmars

I'm interested in buying the 335i coupe. I was thinking (premium, sport pkg. nav, heated seats, rear sun shade, manual trans). The dealer said MSRP was about 48k. Invoice looks like 44k. The dealer is offering 1k off MSRP, so 47k without negotiating. I'm trying to find see what the best price I can get is.
Thanks!

jpl

Hi : Does anyone have any info on early termination of leases, looking to go from an 05-330ci to a 07 335ci, when is the earliest this can be done, if at all, have 11 months left on lease.

Thanks!
jpl

Sylvia

Hi jpl - you might want to ask in the discussion Lease Termination Fees and other costs - lots of helpful info there.

ahdanna

Does anyone have these numbers? Also include 24 months @ 12K/yr if you can.

Thanks,
ahdanna

kyfdx

2007 335i sedan..

3yr/45K 61% .0015

2yr/30K 71% .0015

2yr/24K 73% .0015

maestro64

If you find the right dealer you can easily get them to drop it to about 5% over invoice or about $2200 above. If you work it a bit and can find two dealers willing to deal you can get them down to about 4.5% over invoice maybe 4%. This was the best I was able to do on an 07 and I worked it for a few weeks and contacted 9 dealers with in 25 miles of me.

appu

Hi

I am getting a lease quote on

328xi all wheel drive sedan with automatic transmission for $369/month.
This is a 36 month lease, 30,000 miles allowed, $2500 cap cost reduction due at signing. Tax, first month, bank fee, mv fees additional.

Is it a good deal? I am new to lease, what should I be looking for?

Thanks,
Appu

tcn2k

What was your cars msrp and negotiated price for you to get the lease at 369?

appu

I got this quote over the internet. The dealer wants me to come to the showroom and have a f2f discussion. Edmunds shows the MSRP as $34,995 which includes destination charge.

maestro64

Of course they want you to do a f2f so they work you over...

There is some great information on this site about leasing. there is more to it than just the monthly fee. There is couple of other things you need to look at especially the mileage per year. If you run over this could cost you lots.

I would read what was posted here and get all the numbers form the dealer before you step in the door. From the looks of your numbers the MSRP seems to be for a standard equiped 328xi.

Also, there are some lease calculators out there, but people will tell you those may not be actuate since there are a number of thing that go into the calculation.

Check this guys site before you do anything

I didn't do a lease but I ran the numbers on my 335i and your number seems close to what I ran on $43k car.

kyfdx

It looks like they are quoting you the standard advertised lease.. While that is an average deal, it isn't anything stellar..

Basically, once you get to the dealer, you are going to have to negotiate everything.... better be prepared.

regards,
kyfdx

tperry1972

Just leased a 2007 335i, here are the details:

MSRP: $44,920.00
Paid: $43,705.00

6-speed Manual
Black Sapphire Metallic
Sport Package
Premium Package
Comfort Access
Heated Seats
Floor Mats included

$3500 ($2363.97 Cap Cost Reduction)
24 months, 10k miles per year, money factor .0020416 (4.9%)
$43,705.00 + $825 acquisition = $44,530.00
Residual: $33,240.80 (74.6%)

Payment: $564.63 per month (includes tax)

appu

I got another offer for a 07 328xi automatic with heated seats for 489/month INCLUDING tax(7%) 36 months, 12k miles.
Up front cost will include first month, 388 mv and doc fees, 500 security, $625 bank fee.

What do you guys say about this one compared to the first one?

-/AS

tennberg

Does anyone know the November MF and residual for a 2007 328xi coupe on a 24month/15k yearly mileage lease? A dealer I am working with quoted me 0.0013 and 70%, although someone listed on here that the MF is actually 0.001.

I wanted to know the actual MF before attempting any negotiations to lower it if it should be 0.001.

dprecocious1

It is actually .00100. However, dealers are legally allowed to markup as much as .0004 and if you're doing European Delivery another .0003. So it looks sa though the dealer marked it up .0003.

hintz

I have the opportunity to get a brand new silver 330 conv. lists at $50695. for 43150. I really want the car, but don't want to regret waiting till spring for the 07. Although I'm not real keen on the idea of the new hardtop convertible.. I like the looks of a convertible top. Any insights or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

tennberg

Just leased a 2007 328xi Coupe:

Metallic Paint (Montego Blue)
Premium Package (Dakota Grey interior, grey poplar trim)
Automatic
Cold Weather Package
SIRIUS radio

Cap cost: $42,300
Cap cost reduction: $2,400
24 month, 15k miles per year, 70% residual
0.00100 money factor

$493/month (tax included in price)

mr_anton89

Ganley BMW in Middleburg Heights, Ohio (near Cleveland) is advertising a $349 a month lease for 28 months with $2500 down and 10K miles/yr. It says that it has automatic, premium package, xenons, heated seats, and premium sound. I'm sure this would be of help to someone so I wanted to pos it.

vonrauss

Hey guys/gals-

I have found these forums to be obscenely helpful in the search for my next car. As up to now I've just been a casual observer, I figure I might as well throw my hat into the ring and join the fun!

I am looking to lease a new 328i in Southern California. My dealer really keeps pushing the 5-series, saying that the rates are significantly better (which, maybe they are). I can't help but feel that they are being offered additional incentives to push the 5's.

I want the following options on a 328i (or xi):
Navigation
Premium Package
Bluetooth

Okay, so my question is, is it possible to get into a 328i (or even an xi) lease in SoCal for under $500 bucks per month (including tax, 9%) with 2k down (including all fees, sec deposit, etc)? From reading these postings, it seems like it isn't that unrealistic.

I want to get into the car tomorrow, but make sure that I'm making the right decision!

Thanks for any and all help!
von Rauss

vonrauss

I would prefer 2 year, 15k miles per year, but I would be willing to go to 3 year and 12k if I could get the right price. Do you guys think the 2-year 15k is realistic at all?

tennberg

To answer your first question, yes, the money factor on the 5s (0.0005) are better than the MFs on the 3s (0.001 for coupes, a tad higher for sedans). However, both MFs are incredibly low. As a comparison, my roommate did a search on MFs for Volvos, and they were in the 0.003 range, which is very high.

You need to remember that the MSRP and gross cap cost of a well-equipped 5 series will be a lot higher than that of a well-equipped 3 series. So, the lower MF on the 5s is balanced out by its higher MSRP and cap cost.

If you are only putting out $2000 *total*, you need to remember that the acquisition fee ($625-825), first month's payment, and security deposit (a month's payment, rounded up to the nearest $50 increment) will account for the majority of that 2k, with the rest for plates/registration. This basically means putting no cap cost reduction on the car.

Taking that into account along with the high tax rates in CA, I would be surprised if you could construct a lease for under $500 a month, tax included.

If you read my previous post (a few posts back), I was able to get a 328xi coupe lease here in Boston for $493 a month with around $4000 down (cap cost reduction, sec. deposit, first month, registration, etc).

I would look at getting a lease calculator, figuring out exactly what model you want, its money factor, MSRP with all options, residual, and estimated gross cap cost, and using those along with the length of the lease and your local tax rate to see how getting a sub-$500 payment might work.

vonrauss

Thanks for the advice! I figured that this price was a longshot, but I'll definitely use a lease calculator to see if I can work something out (maybe I'll have to forfeit the Navi).

Thanks again!

equest

I have an offer of 40,500 for 2007 328i with:
Black Sapphire Metallic
Premium Package
Sports Package
Automatic Trans
Heated Front Seats

MSRP was 42395.00
Can anyone give me an idea if this is a good price for S.C.?

Thanks!

vonrauss

Just got a quote back from my dealer on a 328i. As I am a returning BMWFS customer, he has agreed to waive the security deposit. Here is the deal they are offering me for a 328i w/ automatic, Navi, Xenons, and Premium package.

$2k total down (1k for downpayment, the rest to cover fees)
3 yr, 12 k miles per year
MF: .0019
Residual: 70%
Monthly lease payment, including tax: $517 per month

Deal or no deal?

vijayrams

First time thinking on Leasing 335i in SoCal with Premium, Sport, Navi, Steptronic Option.

Deal information:
Sale price : $45365
DownPayment : $1800
Term & Mileasge : 36, 15000.

Monthly payment : $670 after taxes,
Residueal 61%,
Money Factor : 1.9000
Residual value : $28910.

1) Please advice whether this is a good deal since I dont have experience in leasing dont know nitty grites behind it.

2) Is it possible to get around $550 monthly payment with better buy out option.

3) Would it be recommended to lease this 335i Vs buying keep the cost. May be at the end of the term if things goes well, I may buy it, right now, it appears to big of $ to go after buying it.

4) Please provide me your expert opinions, seriously looking to get it very soon.

Thanks, VR

arache97

Hello, I am intrested in this car I saw at the Acura dealership I go to for service . The specs are below. Any advise on how much I should offer? I also requested the carfax report from the dealer because I feel their price is on the low side for this car...something might be up with it. Thanks in advance.

Bodystyle: 4 door Sedan
Engine: 2.5L I-6cyl
Transmission: Automatic
Ext. Color: Blue
Int. Color: Parchment Leather
Mileage: 17,992
Internet Price: $23,995

How would I know if it has a sports package? Should I buy an extended warranty? If so, from where?

vonrauss

arache97-

Depending on where you live, I would say that the price being offered is pretty much on par with what I would expect (not a tremendous deal by any means where I'm at). Also, be careful because non-BMW dealerships will often market a vehicle as having leather when it actually has leatherette.

The Sport package is easily identified by the unique seats, a different steering wheel, and (in most cases) lowered suspension.

You are definitely going to want the extended warranty, as even though this vehicle has low miles, even easy fixes cost a boatload on a Beemer.

Hope this helps.

arache97

Thanks Vonrauss. I'm in NYC. I'm getting the carfax report as we speak so I'll see it's history. I saw the car yesterday and believe it has leatherette. Does that matter?

Also do you suggest I buy an extended warranty from them or can I go to a BMW dealership and purchase on from them?

Thanks

vonrauss

Well, if it has leatherette (and no premium package), then I'm guessing that you can get them to come down a little bit in that price. I'm not 100% familiar with the market in NY, but out here in SoCal the BMW market is very saturated and you could probably get a car like this for somewhere between 22k and 23k.

As for where to get the warranty, I'm not exactly sure. But I know if you call your local BMW dealership they should be able to give you a nice recommendation.

vonrauss

I live in the SoCal area...

MSRP $40420
Sale price $39030
Rate .00190
Residual $25464.60 (63%)
$2000 out of pocket
$528.89 incl tax 36 months (make 35 payments) 12K miles per year

$2000 includes acquisition fees, doc fees, lic fees for first year and First
Payment.

This is a Black / Black 2007 328i Sedan with Premium, auto, xenons,
navigation.

Deal or no deal?

btsichen

Just leased a Monaco Blue 335i sedan, steptronic, premium, heated seats, Sirius radio from United BMW in Roswell.

MSRP $44,690
Cap $42,441
36mo /15k
MF .00165
residual 26,270 (61%)

I rolled the aquisition fee in to the cap cost ($625), negotiated the doc fees, etc. into the negotiated price, and added .00015 to the MF instead of paying a security deposit.

Due at signing was first month payment of $566.81 + tax and tags.

The internet CA was very responsive and all negotiating was done on email over two days. Initially, they quoted a MF of .0019 and an aquisition fee of $825, both of which the CA conceded was just added dealer profit.

This was my first lease and BMW. Overall, it was a smooth and low stress process, mainly because after reading this board, I felt informed re: current pricing, rates, and the leasing process. Thanks to the people and moderators on this board for the help.

jrmstr33

Thinking of leasing a 335i coupe with just the sport package and 6 spd MT. Here is the best offer I have been given.

MSRP: $42295
Negotiated Price: $40998
MF: .00190 (.00175 + .00015 to factor in security dep)
Residual: 60% (12k/yr, 36mo)
Total Cash Down: $3500 (includes acquisition fee, tax, title and registration)
Monthly Payment: $555.16 including CA taxes ($510.50 pre-tax)

What do you guys think? Thanks in advance!

blueguydotcom

What are the extra fees they're tacking on?

Training 180?
Aqu. 800?
Title 500?
Doc fees 100?
8.25% tax?

I'm running your numbers through http://leaseguide.com/calc.htm and something isn't coming up correctly.

You have sedan in your title and coupe in the body, so I'm assuming coupe.

hadia

To be honest, I've been checking these forums and first off they are really informative and helpful. Too bad most of the general public have no idea what they are doing when they just stumble into the dealership.

Anyhow, I went to a number of dealerships and realize they have almost no 335i coupe's that are not accounted for already, meaning someone's got some money sitting on them. I'm in SOCAL.

Anyways, we all know that as time passes the demand for these cars wont be too crazy but still high which will create some better movement not only on the money factor but the lease agreement along the board.

I'm wondering if I should just sit back and wait to shoot the gun here and take delivery...

Also, I've got a 2004 325ci premium sport cold weather which was 42k sticker paying 390.88 because I put some cash down. Car is sweet and is due this upcoming september for turn in, I'm just starting to go over 36k miles and if you guys have any advice please let me know!!!

Hadi

jrmstr33

Blueguy,

My apologies as I forgot to change the title (just responded to the previous post). The previous quote was for a coupe.

The fees I got was $685 acquisition, training $180, $375 for registration, title and docs and I can't remember the rest. Also, the $600 security deposit was rolled in as well. I calculated $2240 in additional fees that has been factored in to the adjusted cap cost.

bmwcorno

Is this a good deal for 328xi MT, 12,000 miles, 36 months?
What do you guys think?

41,470 MSRP
38,140 INVOICE
39,559 SALE PRICE
.00205 M.F. (security deposit waived)
.63 RESIDUAL
4,273 TOTAL CASH (= downpyt + acq fee)
399.00 MONYTHLY PAYMENT (+ TAX & MV FEES)

Thanks!!

edrn

Hi,
I'm also in Baltimore and looking into a 328XI lease. Which dealer are you using? I currently lease a 03 330xi from Towson BMW. Let me know how you made out.

emoura

I live in NOVA and went out looking for a Beemer on a whim. Got one 2004, 30K miles, certified pre-owned (CPO) in practically show room condition. It came with CO2 control, central armrest, smoker's package (though I don't smoke neither did the previous owner), CD Player, Premium Package, BMW assit, cd changer, sreptronic auto trnas, rain sensor and auto hlight, black soft top, hi-fi stereo, power front seats, auto air. Edmunds priced it at about 29K and change for trade in 31K private sale and 34K dealer retail (because it was CPO). The MSRP was $36,900; when I got to it, it was at 33,500; I offered $30,500. The salesman asked me to offer a better price. I told him that was as high as I would go. They took it. I think I got a good deal do you all agree? efmoura@gmail.com

ukrainian

i just got an offer from a local dealer in ny, equal wheather i pick the sedan or the coupe. I got premium package, steptronic tranny, heated front seats, NAVI, leather, voice activation, real time traffic info. 27 months 15 K MILES/ year. I think that is all.

MSRP is 42,020.... total drive off fees are 5,337.72 by way of 1st payment 445,
sec deposit which is also my last payment of 445,
2495 for cap reduction/down payment,
ny sales tax 1006.26,
ny DP tax ??? 208.96,
bank fee 625,
other ??? 107.5,

after all, this adjusted cap cost is 38,614.98 (i think the price is only down to 41,109,98 from MSRP)

RV factor 71%, adjusted residual value is 29,834, total depreciation is 8,780

BMW money factor is .00175

SO in conclusion 5,337 down w/ 445 month for this car either couple or sedan whiciever i want (chose jet black/ black interior)

GOOD DEAL OR NO DEAL? please help, first time leasing here, also help me decide couple or sedan, im in a serious business where the clients see my car.

sgravesa

Today I got the following offer from a local Ny dealer for the 328XI fully loaded coupe (automatic):

MSRP: $37,100

Cold Weather Pkg: $600
Heated front seats: $3,150
Steptronic: $1275
Navigation:$2100
Destination: $695
Acquisition Fee: $625

Total Suggested Price:$45,395

Out of pocket:$3467.59
Monthly payments: $589.97 (I am not happy about this but I did not do much negotiating)
$600 refundable security deposit

Can I do better? Help!!! I already gave a deposit of $1000

depechebkn

Am considering a 2005 BMW 330Ci Convertible. can assume a 21 month lease for $519 a month. This already includes taxes. W/O taxes it would be $470 a month. This car has every option including cold weather package, sport package, NAVIGATION, xenons, and automatic transmission. It is flawless and in perfect condition. Additional costs would be about $700 for transfer fees and such. Does this make sense financially or should i just lease a new one? The available miles come out to 13k a year average.

thanks for your consideration
dan

camster

Anyone know if I can order a 3 series without the moon roof?

Thanks in advance

rl53

Hi there,
Just saw the BMW lease deal from its website on the 328xi, 27month for $349/month with 2500 down, 10kmile/yr.

My question is, would that be the best deal, or I can acturally improved it by negotiating down the buying price, or money factor(other than leaving more security deposit)?

Due to my commute, I need to have the annual mileage to 15k miles and how would that change the terms and or payment?
Thanks.

kyfdx

Yes.. it is a very good deal.. Make sure you have enough allowable miles for your driving habits.

The deals last fall on the '05 3-series convertibles were fantastic.. If you tried to lease a new one, the price would probably be around $700/mo. or more.

Even with the great deals, it looks like the current lessee made a sizeable downpayment on the lease to get the payment that low. That car would have had an MSRP of around $53K.

kyfdx

Moving up to 15K/yr from 10K/yr is going to add about $50/mo. to a 27 month lease..

Usually the BMW advertised leases assume around a $1K discount from MSRP, so there might be a little more room to negotiate.. But, don't be surprised that once you pick the car you want, if they don't try to increase the price...

ukrainian

wow, this really sounds like it was written either by A) a dealer, or person trying to get rid of lease.

I posted just a few posts ago, number 6995 i think, and I am offered 445/m on a BRAND NEW 07 all wheel drive coupe with premium and navi. So how the hell u can pay 700 for an 05 i have no idea.

Don't be offended by my post please.

kyfdx

The post was in reference to convertibles.. They MSRP for around $53K-$55K with the equipment listed...

$700/mo. is typical for a new one, with no money upfront other than the 1st payment and security deposit.

I don't know the details of your lease, as you've only given your monthly payment.. but, what seems like small details sometimes makes for a big difference in the payment..

Also.. I'm baffled at why you would think I'm a salesperson.

regards,
kyfdx
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