I have an 05 base G6 and am having some issues with the speedometer. It does not operate smoothly between 0-40 mph.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I been been reading this post for a while now and have not noticed anything like it. The dealer says it is a characteristic of the 05s and say that they can not do anything unless it stops working.
Only other issue is a little creaking in the dash but nothing I am too concerned about.
If you want to spoil the holidays, spill a covered dish meant for a party all over the front seats of your 2005 G6/GT.
I pulled out the owners manual and it said use some upholstery cleaner by blotting the spots, well there were a lot of spots to blot, and then use water to clean up the rest. So I pulled out my upholstery wetvac figuring it was the best was to cleanup the rest. The end result was that the area where the water was used and vacuumed back up the colors in the fabric ran and left spots. In my 35 years of owning cars and cleaning seats with water I have never seen the colors in fabric run like it did on my G6.
These are the beige cloth seats that feel like golf gloves. Has anyone else had the problem with the color in their fabric running? The dealer said they had never seen fabric do that before, and because it was an accident it wasn't covered under any warranty.
We have (2) 05 G6 GT's(thanx Opra!!) I live in the midwest and have steering problems on both vehicles. So far they only exhibit the problem when cold, in the morning backing out of the driveway and cutting the wheel to turn, but having no power assist. My wifes' car was in the shop and they've replaced the lower control arms (this is not what I think the problem was, but the dealership told me they were too tight?!?!). The problem still is there, we dropped the car off again yesterday for 3 warranty items, Steering, a ticking noise above the drivers head (by the moonroof) and an intermitant hesitation. My daughters car is scheduled next week for service too. Both Love their G6's but there seems to be some gap in fixing problems. Stay tuned for further developments!!!
This is amazing. My G6 went into the shop for what I thought was some minor adjustments and when asked our dealership stated they were not aware of any repeated problems with the G6 and the problems I was having. The problems are as follows.
~First thing in the morning my power steering feels like I have none. Reply bring it back the night before and leave it for them to try in the AM when it's cold. ~Sometimes my car sounds like I'm holding down on the key when I start it. Reply the lady at the dealership check in says her car does that to and she gave this long explanation as to why, but they did not list this as one of the reasons why I brought it in. Should I ask them to do this for future warranty reference? ~My car has the panoramic sunroof and it creeks. Reply The upcoming versions will probably have that all worked out. ~Also the front dash occasionally makes a loud pop noise. It almost sounds like a rock flying up and hitting the windshield. Reply they didn't hear it ~The speedometer jumps up by several miles at a time. Reply It registers right when it levels out
Any suggestions/comments?
P.S. My G6 has 24,000 miles on it and they say it already needs new tires. I have had them rotated twice. Should they have lasted longer?
I have the same problem but never noticed this until someone from the back seat said you have a really wierd speedometer. I'm unsure if it's been this way since that beggining or not.
C&D included the GTP in a comparison test vs the VW GLI, TSX, Accord V6 and Mazdaspeed 6. Naturally, the GTp came in last in spite of the fact that it's performance was generally better than the Accord/TSX. 0-60 was 6.2 secs, .85g skidpad and 167ft braking. Those numbers are considerably better than the GT C&D tested earlier in the year. Not bad at all. Naturally C&D had a loaded model and didnt account for the fact that the real world price of the GTP would be thousands less than the other cars.
I noticed from pictures that the GTP's manual 6 spd shifter has the Reverse gear on the upper left position, adjacent to first gear. Is there some kind of safety mechanism that prevents you from accidently shifting into reverse when trying to put it into first? Some cars require you to push down on the shifter or do something else in order to make sure you meant to put it into reverse.
The manufacturers supply the cars to the magazines based on the basic spec's requested. They don't always supply the car spec'd as requested. My suspicion is they like to supply "loaded" models in hopes it will make a better impression on the reviewer ("wow - what an interior!), or the reviewer will fall in love with one of the "extras" ("wow - a panoramic moonroof") and spill ink on it. Obviously this backfires enormously when "price" is taken into the final review....
My suspicion is they like to supply "loaded" models in hopes it will make a better impression on the reviewer ("wow - what an interior!), or the reviewer will fall in love with one of the "extras" ("wow - a panoramic moonroof") and spill ink on it. Obviously this backfires enormously when "price" is taken into the final review....
Actually it depends on when the vehicle is requested. If it is during the start up period for a new model the choices are minimal. Preproduction and early pilots are spec'd and ordered way in advance of build so that the preproto/pilot parts can be ordered. Marketing requests only a few vehicles (maybe 10) that will be used for photos/shows/media. Because there are so few you usually order a few of each trim level (CX/CXL/CXS). And then there are the interior/ exterior color combinations. Then you also need to load them up so that all features can be shown. You do try and order a couple lower contented vehicles but not to many because you need to show the newer features which are on the loaded only cars.
Now if it is past the start up period there are a few more cars but again the media fleet is much smaller than it used to be and you need to be selective in how you order the vehicles. You have a few lower priced cars but availability is so limited that the vehicle that is sent may not be the best choice. Then again you probably do not know what it will be used for so a loaded vehicle may be the right choice.
That makes a lot of sense! It always drives me nuts, though, when car reviewers test cars I would never buy (before I spent that much on options, I'd move up to another model or brand). I never buy the most expensive version of a car!
In my experience, most of options improves car substantially. I would name it "an enjoyment factor". Auto dimming mirror, heated side mirrors, heated back window, day lights / auto lights improve safety and do not cost much. ABS is more expensive, but pays for itself, especially in winter. Heated seats are for comfort.
A loaded car costs only about 10% more than a stripped out of the same trim.
I would not pay voluntary, however, a single cent for chrome nor for OnStar. Unfortunately, OnStar is forced on GM customers, and most of dealers order chrome wheels with cars of higher trims.
How true. I'd take the base model in a better car any day. Most of the extras are never used, or just something more to go wrong once out of warranty. Now in a used car, the price is pretty much the same.
I am having the exact same problem with my seats and they look horrible! We couldn't figure out what was causing the problems, they just started having blotches show up and continue to grow. Everytime I try to clean the car, the condition gets worse, and I am becoming very furstrated. I too have the beige color for my seats, and they look horrible, I cannot get over just how poor of a condition the seats look when you open up the door to the car, I am very disappointed in this...first the power steering went in it, now the seats look like that of a ten year old vehicle...
The real key is if there are enough people complaining about the taupe impression cloth so that it becomes a technical problem. It's possible that either the material underneath or the cushion material is fading into the upper cloth when it gets wet. Make sure to complain to the service department manager and the general service manager at your dealership so they know the issue. They need to report the problem to GM. Ask them to take pictures and forward them to the GM reps and open a technical case.
is it possible to stop the windows from rolling down and back up when you open and shut the door. i am getting the windows tinted and until they cure i would like to stop this.
The design of sealing for windows requires the glass to drop approx and inch in order for you to open/and especially close the door. If window were in full up position with the door open I don't even think you could close the door completely although you could still open it - I have tried this
The only way I am aware of is to pull the fuse which would also cut power to other features. How long does it take to cure? Perhaps you could leave the windows down a little?
I talked with the dealer today and they said GM is unaware of any fabric of material defects so the only thing they can do is try to clean the fabric some more and reprotect the cloth with something like scotch guard.
hi folks, 1st time poster here.anyway, i am considering a pont g6 for my next new car as well as a vw jetta,mazda 3,and hyndai sonata just to name a few.while i am really attracted to the g6's sexy sleek look it doesn't offer the same standard equipment as the other vehicles that i mentioned for about the same price.example......06 jetta value edition msrp is 19,995 which is pretty close to the g6,however the jetta offers way more standard equipment like anti-lock brakes,and traction control,just to mention a few as well as a better warranty.should i go with the sleek sexy look of the g6 with fewer standard features or a jetta with it's plain jane styling but with a host of standard features.thank you....
Jetta looks like a Corlla now. VW also has lower long term reliability. No V6 on a Jetta either (or are you looking for a I-4 G6?). ABS can't be much more $500-600. Should be able to get a better deal on a G6 also, don't go by MSRP.. check out the incentives.
If you want reliable, four door, FWD, why not go with the Accord? The class leader.
If you get the G6, buy the GTP, as it has steering which works best for driving feel and works every day.
Yes, the Jetta doesn't have a V6, since it has 5 cylinders. The back of the car now looks Japanese. The front is like the Audi, with a kinda interesting look to it. Interior is of great quality. The problem areas reported in not so good. As for the G6, no one knows, as it is a new model. With GM, results vary. OK, with any new model and make, results vary.
The Mazda3 would be a fun car to drive. Will it be reliable is hard to say. Many loyal owners, but recently more problems have been reported, like on the Mazda6. Not sure what is going on there at Mazda/Ford.
The Sonata looks like a lot of car for the money. Initial quality is good, with some impressive scores from Hyundai lately. Does this mean it will be better three to ten years down the road than say a GM G6 -- who knows. Sales indicate a better road ahead for that company. The rise of Hyundai is encouraging for the Korean car industry, and for the holders of the cars, as resale hopefully improves. But there again, if resale and reliability, as well as, quality refined engines is an issue, there is the Honda Accord. And also I may add the Civic Si.
You may assume wrong, as he mentioned the Sonata. What is sexy about a G6 compared to an Accord or Sonata? My preference would be the Accord 2dr, but the 4dr. looks great. The engine is very sexy.
If you want reliable, four door, FWD, why not go with the Accord? The class leader.
Good point, but the "ad specials" are all for Camry LE's. Hondas cost a lot more. The Camry LE's are a little plain-jane for me inside, and come with a 4 (albeit a modernized, high performing 4).
However, all 3 cars - Camry, G6, and Accord - would satisfy one of my big requirements, if I were in the market, which is for a quiet vehicle.
I do wish GM and Ford would catch up with Honda and Camry on the safety equipment (ABS, side air curtain airbags). I imagine they will, by the time I am in the market again.
Overall, and speaking as an owner of two VW's since 2000, I think the Jetta is quite possibly the best overall package (handling, quiet, safety gear - it includes stability control), if can get one for less than $20k and are willing to actually service it according to the manual (it has low, but critical, requirements; but it's not for the neglectful). It's been out long enough now to be past its "initial assembly light gearing up" teething issues, and has a good, and long, warranty. If you go that route, though, be sure to get the dealer service even for oil changes (and don't run 10,000 mile oil changes unless using the full synthetic oil as spec'd somewhere in the manual).
I do wish GM and Ford would catch up with Honda and Camry on the safety equipment (ABS, side air curtain airbags). I imagine they will, by the time I am in the market again.
bit confused by this. I checked the Pontiac website and they show ABS/side/curtain air bags available on the G6 from the base model up. What am I not understanding?
Brakes, 4-wheel antilock, 4-wheel disc, includes a traction control system Air bags, side-impact, side roof rail and seat-mounted, front
Available, but almost impossible to find except on highly optioned models/trim lines. Or if you order.
Why do you think that is? Are dealers stupid and not ordering the right combinations? I would think if enough people walk into a show room looking for a feature and they had none they would order a few.
GM has a computer program that tracks option turnover in it's vehicles. If something sells this program lets the dealers know to order more of theum.
Basically, consumers are unwilling to pay extra for safety gear. They'd rather get an upgraded radio for $300 than side curtain airbags or ABS.
GM used to be one of the best companies in terms of including ABS on lower trim levels and models. Lately that has fallen by the wayside.
Absolutely. Safety "sells" until you have to pay for it. ABS was pulled from most of GM's lower models when Lutz came in. He said what are you doing? The competition does not have it standard (Honda/Accord/Ford/etc.) in comparable models. GM took it out and the only ones who complained were the dealers. However the dealers quit ordering the ABS option by a whole bunch because it was not value added to the public. About 2 years later the competition started to make it standard and now GM is bringing it back as standard in some of the models.
look at the G6 and than look at a sonata or Accord. The accord and Sonata both suffer from lack of styling. The new accord is just as dull as the old one with the ugly rear end. Both cars have nice engines and the Accord has a nice interior but in terms of exterior styling the G6 GT and GTP have them both beat. An engine cannot make a car sexy, that is ridiculous. The accord coupe is completely soft looking and has no styling character whatsoever.
I agree that the G6 in any of the 3 forms is better looking than the Accord or Sonata. BUT the new Camry looks pretty good. Need to see more to make a decision.
.......not one quality problem to report. Only required maintenance and normal break-in. I've really enjoyed my ownership of this vehicle, having used it primarily for daily transportation as it is the most driver friendly of all of my automobiles. On my previous run-about auto's, a 2003 Dodge Stratus R/T and a '98 Honda Accord V-6(yes, I said Honda) suffered extreme reliability and quality problems. The Stratus's engine locked-up wuth only 22,000 miles on the odo!!! And the Honda required a top engine rebuild and two (2) transmissions, which I only got 51,000 miles on it before the electrical system started to go hay-wire. Before the 15k mile mark on the previous cars, the motor mounts were bad on the Stratus, and the tranny was blown on the Honda at 12,300 miles. The Honda people were quick to take care of the probs, but Dodge's service was lackluster to say the least.
What I've learned about this experience is you definetely can't judge car by it's nameplate. Hyundai would've faded away like Yugo's if this were the way business was conducted. GM has some(not all) great quality cars and trucks out now, but they hopped on the wagon to late, and now imminent money and labor problems have troubled the company in plenty of ways.
Judging from the forum, I must've got a GM car built through Tue-Thurs because the car has been rock solid. This car has the appeal and the quality , IMO, to be a top player.
The G6 coupe to me is just knock off of the Accord coupe. Just my opinion. Some may see it different. As for the sedan, there is little be excited about on any of the three. All look good to me. I would take the one that drives the best, has best resale, finest engine, best interior, and lasts for a couple decades, though few will keep a car more than five years.
Looks like the new Camry has a little of the BMW7 style thing going on on the backside. Or maybe the BMW is turning Japanese. Either way, both are looking interesting, if not correct in styling.
As for the G6, it looks better than the new Grand Prix. Kinda liked the older GTP they had out some years back. The G6 coupe is, like the Accord coupe, a good flowing line. The sedans are getting there. Need a little work. At least the emergency brake is not on the floor. Lose the electric assist steering, and I would at least consider one - especially the coupe. Add RWD, and ya got something really special, like a Z car.... sort a like one, ok would look like one.
what are you talking about? They are not going to be adding RWD to the G6 anytime soon. It's a FWD platform and thats not going to change. I don't know what you mean by "getting there" but the G6 is more than competive. The GTP has hydraulic steering, not electric and electric steering is widely used nowadays. The G6's base steering system may need to be improved, but it's not going to be changed. There is no common styling ground between the Accord and G6 coupe, the G6 has more in common with a G35 than an accord with it's huge front and rear overhangs and slab sided sheetmetal. If you think the accord, G6 and Sonata all look the same then it's apparent that styling doesnt mean much to you.
The G6 looks better with it's lower price. $23,600 for a GTP isnt too bad in my book.
Since I am having problems with the front seats of my Pontiac G6, which has the Light Taupe Impression Cloth I thought I would check out the backseat that no one has ridden in.
For those unfamilar with my problem I dripped a covered dish across my seats during the holidays. I tried to cleanup the seats with water and the colors ran. The dealer tried the same and it got worst. Finally the dealer had to clean the seats with a solvent in order to get out the colors where they ran.
So to test the back seat, I took a slightly damp white cotton cloth and rubbed it back and forth on the back seat. I figured since the back seat had never been ridden in it should come out clean. But what I got was a white cloth with some of the seat color. Since I have color on the white cloth, that tells me the fabric is not color fast.
If you haven't checked out your fabric, you may want to before you get to far down the road. Those of us who have the problem may want to stand together to see it resolved. Do like I did and call the GM warranty assistance and tell them about your problem. :lemon:
All models of G6 except the base with 4 cylinder sedan have cruise control standard. On the 4 cylinder it is an available option tied with remote keyless entry called the...."Cruise Control and Remote Keyless Entry Package" per Pontiac.com. I don't think you need to order anything else to get those options but they go together.
So if you want cruise control or remote keyless entry and are buying a 4 cylinder, make sure it has that package.
I don't know what "1SV" is - that doesn't show up on website with that name although they do have several other packages mentioned
I finally took my car back and had several men look at it. They said they had been seeing the same problem with the interior in the Montana and the Rendevous. The had my car all day, did some type of chemical cleaning but it didn't work, the splotches are still there and of course where there wasn't any splotches there is now because there was water applied with the chemical. ARGH! So, they are not happy, I am not happy, they are committed to find a solution to this problem, so let's hope they find one.
Make sure you also call the 1-800 customer assistance number located in the warranty manual and let them know what the dealer is doing to help you. I would praised the dealer for their help, but said their hands seemed tied because there is not a technical service bulletin addressing the problem. By logging a call with the 1-800 center it builds a case towards getting a service bulletin published.
hey everyone, I have question regarding EPA ratings. What if mine are completely off? I just bought a 2006 Pontiac G6, the V6 model with a 3.5L engine, 201HP. The EPA rating is 22city/32hwy. Now I've been driving this car for about 3 weeks and I'm doing mainly city i suppose but still mixed with some highway right now and I am only averaging 18mpg. Is there something wrong with my car? Or anything I can do to fix it? :mad: Let me know>Thanks a lot.
Sounds about right. Others that own the car will hopefully chime in.
Unfortunately the EPA ratings are inaccurate for all cars. The test cycle they use is outdated and does not match both todays vehicle equipment and driving styles. Do you ever use the A/C? The EPA test cycle does not. Do you ever go over 55 mph? The test cycle does not.
The EPA is finally updating their testing due to the outcry on how the new Hybrids are not coming close to their rated MPG. I bet the city rating for your car drops to around 18.
Also you have a brand new car and the engine is not "broken" in yet. It will take a few more months and it will get better.
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Is anyone else experiencing this? I been been reading this post for a while now and have not noticed anything like it. The dealer says it is a characteristic of the 05s and say that they can not do anything unless it stops working.
Only other issue is a little creaking in the dash but nothing I am too concerned about.
I pulled out the owners manual and it said use some upholstery cleaner by blotting the spots, well there were a lot of spots to blot, and then use water to clean up the rest. So I pulled out my upholstery wetvac figuring it was the best was to cleanup the rest. The end result was that the area where the water was used and vacuumed back up the colors in the fabric ran and left spots. In my 35 years of owning cars and cleaning seats with water I have never seen the colors in fabric run like it did on my G6.
These are the beige cloth seats that feel like golf gloves. Has anyone else had the problem with the color in their fabric running? The dealer said they had never seen fabric do that before, and because it was an accident it wasn't covered under any warranty.
~First thing in the morning my power steering feels like I have none. Reply bring it back the night before and leave it for them to try in the AM when it's cold.
~Sometimes my car sounds like I'm holding down on the key when I start it. Reply the lady at the dealership check in says her car does that to and she gave this long explanation as to why, but they did not list this as one of the reasons why I brought it in. Should I ask them to do this for future warranty reference?
~My car has the panoramic sunroof and it creeks. Reply The upcoming versions will probably have that all worked out.
~Also the front dash occasionally makes a loud pop noise. It almost sounds like a rock flying up and hitting the windshield. Reply they didn't hear it
~The speedometer jumps up by several miles at a time. Reply It registers right when it levels out
Any suggestions/comments?
P.S. My G6 has 24,000 miles on it and they say it already needs new tires. I have had them rotated twice. Should they have lasted longer?
Thanks.
Actually it depends on when the vehicle is requested. If it is during the start up period for a new model the choices are minimal. Preproduction and early pilots are spec'd and ordered way in advance of build so that the preproto/pilot parts can be ordered. Marketing requests only a few vehicles (maybe 10) that will be used for photos/shows/media. Because there are so few you usually order a few of each trim level (CX/CXL/CXS). And then there are the interior/ exterior color combinations. Then you also need to load them up so that all features can be shown. You do try and order a couple lower contented vehicles but not to many because you need to show the newer features which are on the loaded only cars.
Now if it is past the start up period there are a few more cars but again the media fleet is much smaller than it used to be and you need to be selective in how you order the vehicles. You have a few lower priced cars but availability is so limited that the vehicle that is sent may not be the best choice. Then again you probably do not know what it will be used for so a loaded vehicle may be the right choice.
A loaded car costs only about 10% more than a stripped out of the same trim.
I would not pay voluntary, however, a single cent for chrome nor for OnStar. Unfortunately, OnStar is forced on GM customers, and most of dealers order chrome wheels with cars of higher trims.
Loren
The design of sealing for windows requires the glass to drop approx and inch in order for you to open/and especially close the door. If window were in full up position with the door open I don't even think you could close the door completely although you could still open it - I have tried this
i am considering a pont g6 for my next new car as well as a vw jetta,mazda 3,and hyndai sonata just to name a few.while i am really attracted to the g6's sexy sleek look it doesn't offer the same standard equipment as the other vehicles that i mentioned for about the same price.example......06 jetta value edition msrp is 19,995 which is pretty close to the g6,however the jetta offers way more standard equipment like anti-lock brakes,and traction control,just to mention a few as well as a better warranty.should i go with the sleek sexy look of the g6 with fewer standard features or a jetta with it's plain jane styling but with a host of standard features.thank you....
If you get the G6, buy the GTP, as it has steering which works best for driving feel and works every day.
Yes, the Jetta doesn't have a V6, since it has 5 cylinders.
The back of the car now looks Japanese. The front is like the Audi, with a kinda interesting look to it. Interior is of great quality. The problem areas reported in not so good. As for the G6, no one knows, as it is a new model. With GM, results vary. OK, with any new model and make, results vary.
The Mazda3 would be a fun car to drive. Will it be reliable is hard to say. Many loyal owners, but recently more problems have been reported, like on the Mazda6. Not sure what is going on there at Mazda/Ford.
The Sonata looks like a lot of car for the money. Initial quality is good, with some impressive scores from Hyundai lately. Does this mean it will be better three to ten years down the road than say a GM G6 -- who knows. Sales indicate a better road ahead for that company. The rise of Hyundai is encouraging for the Korean car industry, and for the holders of the cars, as resale hopefully improves.
But there again, if resale and reliability, as well as, quality refined engines is an issue, there is the Honda Accord.
And also I may add the Civic Si.
Loren
Loren
If you want reliable, four door, FWD, why not go with the Accord? The class leader.
Good point, but the "ad specials" are all for Camry LE's. Hondas cost a lot more. The Camry LE's are a little plain-jane for me inside, and come with a 4 (albeit a modernized, high performing 4).
However, all 3 cars - Camry, G6, and Accord - would satisfy one of my big requirements, if I were in the market, which is for a quiet vehicle.
I do wish GM and Ford would catch up with Honda and Camry on the safety equipment (ABS, side air curtain airbags). I imagine they will, by the time I am in the market again.
Overall, and speaking as an owner of two VW's since 2000, I think the Jetta is quite possibly the best overall package (handling, quiet, safety gear - it includes stability control), if can get one for less than $20k and are willing to actually service it according to the manual (it has low, but critical, requirements; but it's not for the neglectful). It's been out long enough now to be past its "initial assembly light gearing up" teething issues, and has a good, and long, warranty. If you go that route, though, be sure to get the dealer service even for oil changes (and don't run 10,000 mile oil changes unless using the full synthetic oil as spec'd somewhere in the manual).
bit confused by this. I checked the Pontiac website and they show ABS/side/curtain air bags available on the G6 from the base model up. What am I not understanding?
Brakes, 4-wheel antilock, 4-wheel disc, includes a traction control system
Air bags, side-impact, side roof rail and seat-mounted, front
Why do you think that is? Are dealers stupid and not ordering the right combinations? I would think if enough people walk into a show room looking for a feature and they had none they would order a few.
GM has a computer program that tracks option turnover in it's vehicles. If something sells this program lets the dealers know to order more of theum.
Nothing sexy about the Sonata, the 06 Accord is an improvement though.
GM used to be one of the best companies in terms of including ABS on lower trim levels and models. Lately that has fallen by the wayside.
It's not impossible to dealer search for a lightly optioned car with ABS and side air bags, just hard.
GM used to be one of the best companies in terms of including ABS on lower trim levels and models. Lately that has fallen by the wayside.
Absolutely. Safety "sells" until you have to pay for it. ABS was pulled from most of GM's lower models when Lutz came in. He said what are you doing? The competition does not have it standard (Honda/Accord/Ford/etc.) in comparable models. GM took it out and the only ones who complained were the dealers. However the dealers quit ordering the ABS option by a whole bunch because it was not value added to the public. About 2 years later the competition started to make it standard and now GM is bringing it back as standard in some of the models.
What I've learned about this experience is you definetely can't judge car by it's nameplate. Hyundai would've faded away like Yugo's if this were the way business was conducted. GM has some(not all) great quality cars and trucks out now, but they hopped on the wagon to late, and now imminent money and labor problems have troubled the company in plenty of ways.
Judging from the forum, I must've got a GM car built through Tue-Thurs because the car has been rock solid. This car has the appeal and the quality , IMO, to be a top player.
Loren
As for the G6, it looks better than the new Grand Prix. Kinda liked the older GTP they had out some years back. The G6 coupe is, like the Accord coupe, a good flowing line. The sedans are getting there. Need a little work. At least the emergency brake is not on the floor. Lose the electric assist steering, and I would at least consider one - especially the coupe. Add RWD, and ya got something really special, like a Z car.... sort a like one, ok would look like one.
Loren
The G6 looks better with it's lower price. $23,600 for a GTP isnt too bad in my book.
For those unfamilar with my problem I dripped a covered dish across my seats during the holidays. I tried to cleanup the seats with water and the colors ran. The dealer tried the same and it got worst. Finally the dealer had to clean the seats with a solvent in order to get out the colors where they ran.
So to test the back seat, I took a slightly damp white cotton cloth and rubbed it back and forth on the back seat. I figured since the back seat had never been ridden in it should come out clean. But what I got was a white cloth with some of the seat color. Since I have color on the white cloth, that tells me the fabric is not color fast.
If you haven't checked out your fabric, you may want to before you get to far down the road. Those of us who have the problem may want to stand together to see it resolved. Do like I did and call the GM warranty assistance and tell them about your problem. :lemon:
So if you want cruise control or remote keyless entry and are buying a 4 cylinder, make sure it has that package.
I don't know what "1SV" is - that doesn't show up on website with that name although they do have several other packages mentioned
Unfortunately the EPA ratings are inaccurate for all cars. The test cycle they use is outdated and does not match both todays vehicle equipment and driving styles. Do you ever use the A/C? The EPA test cycle does not. Do you ever go over 55 mph? The test cycle does not.
The EPA is finally updating their testing due to the outcry on how the new Hybrids are not coming close to their rated MPG. I bet the city rating for your car drops to around 18.
Also you have a brand new car and the engine is not "broken" in yet. It will take a few more months and it will get better.