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Is anyone else experiencing this? I been been reading this post for a while now and have not noticed anything like it. The dealer says it is a characteristic of the 05s and say that they can not do anything unless it stops working.
Only other issue is a little creaking in the dash but nothing I am too concerned about.
I pulled out the owners manual and it said use some upholstery cleaner by blotting the spots, well there were a lot of spots to blot, and then use water to clean up the rest. So I pulled out my upholstery wetvac figuring it was the best was to cleanup the rest. The end result was that the area where the water was used and vacuumed back up the colors in the fabric ran and left spots. In my 35 years of owning cars and cleaning seats with water I have never seen the colors in fabric run like it did on my G6.
These are the beige cloth seats that feel like golf gloves. Has anyone else had the problem with the color in their fabric running? The dealer said they had never seen fabric do that before, and because it was an accident it wasn't covered under any warranty.
~First thing in the morning my power steering feels like I have none. Reply bring it back the night before and leave it for them to try in the AM when it's cold.
~Sometimes my car sounds like I'm holding down on the key when I start it. Reply the lady at the dealership check in says her car does that to and she gave this long explanation as to why, but they did not list this as one of the reasons why I brought it in. Should I ask them to do this for future warranty reference?
~My car has the panoramic sunroof and it creeks. Reply The upcoming versions will probably have that all worked out.
~Also the front dash occasionally makes a loud pop noise. It almost sounds like a rock flying up and hitting the windshield. Reply they didn't hear it
~The speedometer jumps up by several miles at a time. Reply It registers right when it levels out
Any suggestions/comments?
P.S. My G6 has 24,000 miles on it and they say it already needs new tires. I have had them rotated twice. Should they have lasted longer?
Thanks.
Actually it depends on when the vehicle is requested. If it is during the start up period for a new model the choices are minimal. Preproduction and early pilots are spec'd and ordered way in advance of build so that the preproto/pilot parts can be ordered. Marketing requests only a few vehicles (maybe 10) that will be used for photos/shows/media. Because there are so few you usually order a few of each trim level (CX/CXL/CXS). And then there are the interior/ exterior color combinations. Then you also need to load them up so that all features can be shown. You do try and order a couple lower contented vehicles but not to many because you need to show the newer features which are on the loaded only cars.
Now if it is past the start up period there are a few more cars but again the media fleet is much smaller than it used to be and you need to be selective in how you order the vehicles. You have a few lower priced cars but availability is so limited that the vehicle that is sent may not be the best choice. Then again you probably do not know what it will be used for so a loaded vehicle may be the right choice.
A loaded car costs only about 10% more than a stripped out of the same trim.
I would not pay voluntary, however, a single cent for chrome nor for OnStar. Unfortunately, OnStar is forced on GM customers, and most of dealers order chrome wheels with cars of higher trims.
Loren
The design of sealing for windows requires the glass to drop approx and inch in order for you to open/and especially close the door. If window were in full up position with the door open I don't even think you could close the door completely although you could still open it - I have tried this
i am considering a pont g6 for my next new car as well as a vw jetta,mazda 3,and hyndai sonata just to name a few.while i am really attracted to the g6's sexy sleek look it doesn't offer the same standard equipment as the other vehicles that i mentioned for about the same price.example......06 jetta value edition msrp is 19,995 which is pretty close to the g6,however the jetta offers way more standard equipment like anti-lock brakes,and traction control,just to mention a few as well as a better warranty.should i go with the sleek sexy look of the g6 with fewer standard features or a jetta with it's plain jane styling but with a host of standard features.thank you....
If you get the G6, buy the GTP, as it has steering which works best for driving feel and works every day.
Yes, the Jetta doesn't have a V6, since it has 5 cylinders.
The back of the car now looks Japanese. The front is like the Audi, with a kinda interesting look to it. Interior is of great quality. The problem areas reported in not so good. As for the G6, no one knows, as it is a new model. With GM, results vary. OK, with any new model and make, results vary.
The Mazda3 would be a fun car to drive. Will it be reliable is hard to say. Many loyal owners, but recently more problems have been reported, like on the Mazda6. Not sure what is going on there at Mazda/Ford.
The Sonata looks like a lot of car for the money. Initial quality is good, with some impressive scores from Hyundai lately. Does this mean it will be better three to ten years down the road than say a GM G6 -- who knows. Sales indicate a better road ahead for that company. The rise of Hyundai is encouraging for the Korean car industry, and for the holders of the cars, as resale hopefully improves.
But there again, if resale and reliability, as well as, quality refined engines is an issue, there is the Honda Accord.
And also I may add the Civic Si.
Loren
Loren
If you want reliable, four door, FWD, why not go with the Accord? The class leader.
Good point, but the "ad specials" are all for Camry LE's. Hondas cost a lot more. The Camry LE's are a little plain-jane for me inside, and come with a 4 (albeit a modernized, high performing 4).
However, all 3 cars - Camry, G6, and Accord - would satisfy one of my big requirements, if I were in the market, which is for a quiet vehicle.
I do wish GM and Ford would catch up with Honda and Camry on the safety equipment (ABS, side air curtain airbags). I imagine they will, by the time I am in the market again.
Overall, and speaking as an owner of two VW's since 2000, I think the Jetta is quite possibly the best overall package (handling, quiet, safety gear - it includes stability control), if can get one for less than $20k and are willing to actually service it according to the manual (it has low, but critical, requirements; but it's not for the neglectful). It's been out long enough now to be past its "initial assembly light gearing up" teething issues, and has a good, and long, warranty. If you go that route, though, be sure to get the dealer service even for oil changes (and don't run 10,000 mile oil changes unless using the full synthetic oil as spec'd somewhere in the manual).
bit confused by this. I checked the Pontiac website and they show ABS/side/curtain air bags available on the G6 from the base model up. What am I not understanding?
Brakes, 4-wheel antilock, 4-wheel disc, includes a traction control system
Air bags, side-impact, side roof rail and seat-mounted, front
Why do you think that is? Are dealers stupid and not ordering the right combinations? I would think if enough people walk into a show room looking for a feature and they had none they would order a few.
GM has a computer program that tracks option turnover in it's vehicles. If something sells this program lets the dealers know to order more of theum.
Nothing sexy about the Sonata, the 06 Accord is an improvement though.
GM used to be one of the best companies in terms of including ABS on lower trim levels and models. Lately that has fallen by the wayside.
It's not impossible to dealer search for a lightly optioned car with ABS and side air bags, just hard.
GM used to be one of the best companies in terms of including ABS on lower trim levels and models. Lately that has fallen by the wayside.
Absolutely. Safety "sells" until you have to pay for it. ABS was pulled from most of GM's lower models when Lutz came in. He said what are you doing? The competition does not have it standard (Honda/Accord/Ford/etc.) in comparable models. GM took it out and the only ones who complained were the dealers. However the dealers quit ordering the ABS option by a whole bunch because it was not value added to the public. About 2 years later the competition started to make it standard and now GM is bringing it back as standard in some of the models.
What I've learned about this experience is you definetely can't judge car by it's nameplate. Hyundai would've faded away like Yugo's if this were the way business was conducted. GM has some(not all) great quality cars and trucks out now, but they hopped on the wagon to late, and now imminent money and labor problems have troubled the company in plenty of ways.
Judging from the forum, I must've got a GM car built through Tue-Thurs because the car has been rock solid. This car has the appeal and the quality , IMO, to be a top player.
Loren
As for the G6, it looks better than the new Grand Prix. Kinda liked the older GTP they had out some years back. The G6 coupe is, like the Accord coupe, a good flowing line. The sedans are getting there. Need a little work. At least the emergency brake is not on the floor. Lose the electric assist steering, and I would at least consider one - especially the coupe. Add RWD, and ya got something really special, like a Z car.... sort a like one, ok would look like one.
Loren
The G6 looks better with it's lower price. $23,600 for a GTP isnt too bad in my book.
For those unfamilar with my problem I dripped a covered dish across my seats during the holidays. I tried to cleanup the seats with water and the colors ran. The dealer tried the same and it got worst. Finally the dealer had to clean the seats with a solvent in order to get out the colors where they ran.
So to test the back seat, I took a slightly damp white cotton cloth and rubbed it back and forth on the back seat. I figured since the back seat had never been ridden in it should come out clean. But what I got was a white cloth with some of the seat color. Since I have color on the white cloth, that tells me the fabric is not color fast.
If you haven't checked out your fabric, you may want to before you get to far down the road. Those of us who have the problem may want to stand together to see it resolved. Do like I did and call the GM warranty assistance and tell them about your problem. :lemon:
So if you want cruise control or remote keyless entry and are buying a 4 cylinder, make sure it has that package.
I don't know what "1SV" is - that doesn't show up on website with that name although they do have several other packages mentioned
Unfortunately the EPA ratings are inaccurate for all cars. The test cycle they use is outdated and does not match both todays vehicle equipment and driving styles. Do you ever use the A/C? The EPA test cycle does not. Do you ever go over 55 mph? The test cycle does not.
The EPA is finally updating their testing due to the outcry on how the new Hybrids are not coming close to their rated MPG. I bet the city rating for your car drops to around 18.
Also you have a brand new car and the engine is not "broken" in yet. It will take a few more months and it will get better.