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I bought my GT with the pano roof mid-June '05. Between then and end of Sept it was in the shop 5 times - each time because the pano roof generates cracking and friction noises. It cracks over bumps and on turns (especially when the turn is "against the camber". The service manager tells me GM has no fix. They called in a field engineer who did 'something' - the noise went away but only for a week. All he can do is wait for a GM bulletin. He assures me that GM is aware of the problem and is supposed to be working on it (lol). There is also a constant "friction" noise (plastic on plastic) in the corner of the pano right above the driver's head. Everything else about the car I like - but these noises have taken all the pleasure out of owning the new car; any kind of trip is just so annoying that I do not look forward to driving it.
I have contacted "PM Cares" (lol) who gave me absolutely no satisfaction other than provide me with the # for BBB. This I did and have opened a case. Surprise ! The very next morning I get a call from GM Customer Service. They are coming back to me this week with details of what they can do for me. (The only satisfactory thing is either replace the car without a sunroof or refund all monies). If they don't come up with the goods I am continuing with the BBB process and invoking the lemon law.
Has anyone had similar experiences and what responses have they had ?
:lemon:
P.S.-- while the pano roof looks good, sure am glad I opted against it.
They sold like 12K G6's in september. Thats gotta be good ppl. How do you like your cars?
This is my 1st GM car....seems to be as good as anything out there in it's class/price....
I would get the 6sp sedan g6. I'd like to hear feedback from anyone out there regarding:
1: overall likes/dislikes
2: performance
3: mileage -- I'm curious what you get when you just ease on down the road in 6th at 75mph.
If you've got the 6sp coupe, feel free to let me know too, since the drivetrain is identical.
Thanks
1. Overall likes/dislikes: I for one love my GTP. The car has the solidity and fit/finish that will put some foreign kings(ie:toyota/honda) to shame. The overall design is years beyond what I thought GM could ever produce. Not much to dislike EXCEPT: If you're like me at 6'3 tall, you will wish for more headroom. But I can't blame that on the car because I could've had one WITHOUT the sunroof. The sunroof-equipped cars headliner impede on headroom.
2. Performance: The performance of this car may surprise you. My intial thought was HMM. GM yet again put big horsepower in a front-drive car( think '97-'03 GP). But oh buddy. I took it for a test drive and that changed my whole perception of the G6. My only complaint that I experience in my car is mild torque-steer. But even that is to be associated with most front-drive cars. I've got a host of upgrades on my car( Airaid cold-air induction,less-restrictive Borla exhaust, Dyna-Tune chip among other goodies) and my car has managed to get to 60 mph in 5.6 sec. All this in a $22,000 dollar car. Believe it or not, I've smoked a few Altima's V6's and Mazda 6's BEFORE the upgrades. I also put better rubber (Goodyear F1 Supercar) and lighter BBS wheels on my car and that improved cornering, unsprung weight mass, and braking. So to put it in perspective, the G6 GTP 6-speed is a complete sleeper. I just wish more people gave it a second look.
Mileage: As far as mileage goes, before I put all the goodies on my car, around the Boston city loop, I was managing only 18.9. But that was with the car idleing for 1-hour in traffic everyday. On the highway, if I kept the cruise set on 75 mph, I managed a respectable 28.8 mpg. But after the upgrades, especially with the cold-air induction, I get about 22 in the city now. The highest I've seen on the highway was 33mpg on a recent trip from Boston to Memphis(Elvis Rocks!!!!!!!)
Hopes this helps out.
about 20.5 in town traffic. this is with the 4speed
auto in my G6 GTP.
i have driven a lot of Pontiac product the last
few decades and this car is superb. a great
value for the money. local kids think it is
way shaper than the other cars in its class.
only by the way issue i have is the need
to get new rims for dedicated snow tires
in this part of the NE. factory tires for summer,
the Bridgestone Potenzas are excellent, but no way
are they snow tires.
my wife steals the car whenever i am not looking.
interior room with the normal (smaller) sunroof is
very good for me and i am 6'1". even back seat room
is spacious.
very good tire and rim selection help.
give them an email and find out if they ship
north.
they may even be able to suggest a place to
do the tire work if you need some futher leads.
I'm impressed with your times -- and your mpg. That's awesome.
I've never understood why only the Europeans (BMW, Saab, etc) generally put a higher horsepower sedan with a stickshift. Toyota and Honda always slap an auto on their sedan v6s, as does F, GM and DCX. Yes, I know that most Americans don't want to shift, but most of the cars I've bought have had one
Anyone else have a six-speed with comments?....
Take the ride for instance. It is no where near as composed as my G6 GTP 6-speed. And my car is supposed to be the "sportier" one. On the transmission gear shift, you can only select PRNDL, sort of like the cars from the '70's. The interior, while nice, doesn't execute functionality like the G6/Malibu twins. Oh, and the one I drove had a rattle somewhere in the interior that the saleman described as "normal". Normal for who? Not for me spending $26k on a car. To sum it up, the car fell way short of my expectations. Don't believe the hype.
I am just wondering if you guys experience squeaking noises on your brakes because I only drove my new 06 G6 only for about a month and I started to hear squeaking noises. Do you think I need to take this problem to the dealership or tell them at the 1st service.
...............Maybe I did. Maybe I didn't(lol)
All the specs are on the Pontiac website but it is not available in the 'build it now' section.
The 2.4 liter seems to offer good HP and mileage. I would like to drive one and see how it compares with the 6 cylinder models.
I would compare the 2.4 to the 2.4 Honda Accord and Camry, a more fair comparison than to the V6 in any makers' lineup.
On a test drive the V6 will always outshine the 4, since you don't have to pay for gas. Also, we all get adrenalined up on test drives and stronger engines ALWAYS make a better impression. It takes calm nerves and a sensible outlook to exercise restraint.
Two things to consider:
1. The 4 is as quiet as the 6, at cruise, but some automotive writers downgrade it for noise because they take the extra engine roar during hard acceleration into account. I can live with engine roar or a so-called "busy" engine during acceleration; what I want is quiet at cruising speed. So the 4 works for me in this regard
2. The 4, at least in the similar Malibu, has been rated higher, by a couple of auto magazines, in handling - it has less weight on the front end than the 6.
Finally, the engine compartment is more spacious with the 4, and hence a little easier to work with. Although the 6 gets excellent crash tests, the 4 is also a narrower engine and might allow even better "crushability" of the front end in an accident.
I am happy to see GM keeping the 4 cylinder option open. Their pushrod 6's get admittedly great gas mileage, but I am a fan of well designed, world class 4's like the Ecotec in the base model Malibu's and G6's. While I would like to see a stick shift available with the 4 (as with the Camry and Accord) most buyers of American cars don't order enough stick shifts to justify production; Toyota and Honda can offer stick shifts because in the rest of the world, stick shifts far out-number automatic transmissions. Fortunately, the GM automatic 4 speed is considered one of the sturdiest and best shifting around; I am somewhat dubious of the introduction of 5 and 6 speed automatics, since the manufacturers of the earlier 4 speed variants had some reliability issues, and the parts in the 5 and 6 speed are even tinier than in the 4 speeds. With a torque converter, most 4 speed automatics seem to perform comparably to 5 speed stick shifts; the major problem with automatics, to me, is that they lower the "fun factor" of doing it yourself.
Loren
Loren
Sunroofs aren't my thing, but by gosh, if this one is advertised as a super cool
idea of the 21st century, they need to deliver. Maybe there is a standard type
sunroof they could put in there, and credit you the difference. Keep us informed.
Hope GM aims to help their customers with this problem. A positive solution for
the customer would be a good indication that they know who they work for. They
work for you. I do hope they know that, the dealership and employees know that,
and CEO of GM knows this. Ultimately, they all work for you, the customer. Now
you may think this is not so. They may think this is not so too. And in the end it
may a rude awakening if the boss, which is you, fires them! It is the simplest concept
yet hard for so many to understand in business. Come to think of it, politicians forget
this all too often -- oh well !
Loren
Thanks,
A very happy new car owner