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Is there a penalty if you just want to walk away at the end of SmartBuy? If not, how is that different from a lease?
zeen ::: GM always builds room in their prices for cash back and negotiating room. Always have. Rebates will come though I doubt you will see anything like you did on say a Tracker. This vehicle look like it will sell very well. I could see replacing our Vue with one in a few years as I prefer the looks.
Vuefor2: In '97, Rav4 and CRV were the ONLY mini-SUV. My beef is an old tech motor like the 3.4L is made in upstate NY anyway, why import it? If it's to keep costs down why isn't the Nox cheaper then a Sorrento? Why can't it have a great V6 like the Honda engine (made in the USofA) at Vue prices?
The Nox is only a good value when I get $2-3K off and I use my 3.5K of GM points. (GM still making money). It's not a good value at it's current price. But this is where GM is screwing itself. If you buy a NOX now for 25K, and in 4 months I buy the same car for 20K, you're worse off in 2 years when the car's value is only 15K. All thanks to GM over valuing their products to the competition.
My '92 Accord turned 222,000 miles last week. My wife's '95 Acura Legend has 140k. And my 2002 Chevy Trailblazer turned 11,000 over the weekend.
Guess which of the three has been in the shop the most? Before you answer, consider that the TB is at the dealer today for an oil change, 2 recalls, and 2 warranty items.
This 'Nox has me intrigued (as a replacement for the Honda and/or Legend), due to its size, features, price and style. My wife doesn't like driving the TB (too big), but she's ready to have some sort of SUV-type-vehicle for hauling her work and our monsters around. Wish it had a Honda mill under the hood like the Vue Red Line.
I crawled in and around a loaded 'nox LT the other day. Didn't have time for a test drive, however. Looks nice on the surface, but I'd like to spend a day taking it for a test beat.....er, drive.
-juice
The Japanese cars are uniformly a better choice if depreciation is an issue. Even my BMW that I bought in 12/99 for $31K is now only worth about $14K max.
As for SmartBuy, it seems no different than a regular lease if you can walk away at the end.
Zeen, depreciation has really hit hard here in Canada as of late. With the depreciation of the US dollar, demand for Canadian used cars has dropped right off and prices have tumbled as much as 20% from a year ago. My sales guy was telling me it's hard to sell cars to people with 3-4 year old vehicles who can't get what they owe on a trade.
Why has the US $ drop effected used car prices? Because new car prices have dropped?
Your Equinox and US job issues are hard to follow and understand. From what I have read the "low tech" engine you refer to is better than those "high tech" SUV engines . Yes Saturn has your beloved Honda in it but I guess you will have to wait for your deal either way. In the mean time, there is little point in complaining as the car companies are in business to make as much money as they can, not to give you the deal you want.
;-)
BTW. I think you will likely get your "deal" by the end of the year.
As for engines, too bad the I6 Vortec from the Trailblazer at 275 hp couldn't have been squeezed into the Nox.
-juice
Still have not see one on the road. At least being an '05, there shouldn't be a summer shut down for new model changes on the assembly line and inventory will increase this summer.
With 1K off from the dealer, he's still making $1K. Gotta get that down to $500.
Finally, here in Southeastern PA there are some Nox ads. One dealer is advertising an AWD LS with a sticker of $24,930 for $21,930 after the GM rebate. Seems like he's making only a few bucks over invoice.
Another guy with not such a great deal is offering an LT FWD with a sticker of $23,825 for $22,000 after the GM rebate (an $825 discount off MSRP).
As for a lease deal, there is an AWD (probably an LS) with a MSRP of $24,070 leasing for $269 per month for 48 months with $0 down, first month's lease payment, $275 sec. deposit and $595 bank fee.
As far as AWD goes, I don't think you need it but it's nice to have. We have an AWD and through snow and ice it's nice but once can get through it all just fine with out.
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Jtrujillo86, The 3400 is not the same in the equinox your Alero. It's been heavily revised and has a 5-speed auto. It will not be the same driving experience at all.
Rhouser2, The steering feel seems to be a complaint from some what I read. Anyone know if it tightens up with speed like with the Magnasteer systems?
Look at fuel efficiency and HP. They got 15hp out of 0.1 liters? Can't be, it must be better designed.
-juice
If you have to have "high tech" then I guess you have to get something else. I think the "new" Escape has an OHC engine. Looks like a great little SUV also.
I'm hoping that the GM Card Earnings will soon be usable with Saturn cars since Saturn is becoming more of another GM "division". Saturn has a 100 day supply of Vue's and has idled the Tenn. plant for 2 weeks. I think the Vue RedLine with the Honda V6 is just as sharp looking car as the Nox with a ton more performance. With 0% finance and $1K cash back and the ability to use GM Earning points, the Vue could be a much better value.
Especially now that they have a model that I am genuinely interested in.
Believe it or not, that was a big selling point to me as a UT graduate. I was on the fence between cars and that was the last item that would push me over to the equinox side.
Edmunds listed the "fussion orange metallic" but the chevy website removed the colors.
How could I find out if the color is no longer available ?