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2016 Acura ILX Lease Questions

carperson9carperson9 Posts: 1
edited April 2015 in Acura
Looking to lease the new 2016 Acura ILX, if someone could please provide me with the money factor and residual for the base model and technology plus package for Illinois


Thanks guys
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,420
    edited February 2015

    Looking to lease the new 2016 Acura ILX, if someone could please provide me with the money factor and residual for the base model and technology plus package for Illinois


    Thanks guys


    .00030 MF and 53% base, 51% tech residual for 36mo, 15K/yr

    EDIT: That's for 2015. Haven't seen any info on the 2016 model

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  • Any info on the 2016 model yet? If yes, could you please post the current money factor and residuals for the 2016 ILX with Premium and A-SPEC Package?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,420

    Any info on the 2016 model yet? If yes, could you please post the current money factor and residuals for the 2016 ILX with Premium and A-SPEC Package?

    Not yet..

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  • 99gx99gx Posts: 98
    I went to Acura to check out the ilx...nice looking car but he wouldn't move on the numbers saying that the lease program is through Acura so.there isnt much much room to move This was the ilx base with 0 down and $300 a month.
  • tghoshtghosh Posts: 22
    has anyone been able to get more details on the lease program on the 2016 ILX. going to go look at an ILX tonight.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,420
    tghosh said:

    has anyone been able to get more details on the lease program on the 2016 ILX. going to go look at an ILX tonight.

    The special this month is a 39 month lease.

    .00051 MF and residuals of 52%-56%, depending on trim level... 15K/yr.

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  • tghoshtghosh Posts: 22
    thanks, I was just quoted the following on a ILX Tech Plus

    MSRP: 33,820
    Cap Cost; 30,388
    Residual: 19,277.40 (57%)
    MF: .00051

    36/10k: $350.79 + $30.81 (Tax) = $381.48/Month

    is this a good deal?
  • tghoshtghosh Posts: 22
    12k miles is $10 more a month
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,420
    tghosh said:

    12k miles is $10 more a month

    Those numbers add up to $334/mo+tax.. Must be something added to that CAP cost. (acquisition fee?)

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  • xavilanxavilan Posts: 8
    I'm looking at a 10k lease of a 2016 Acura ILX in Nebraska and trying to decide between the Premium or Tech Plus packages. What leasing options are available?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,420
    xavilan said:

    I'm looking at a 10k lease of a 2016 Acura ILX in Nebraska and trying to decide between the Premium or Tech Plus packages. What leasing options are available?

    .00051 MF and 57% residual for 36 or 39 months..

    Same numbers for either model.

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  • xavilanxavilan Posts: 8
    kyfdx said:

    xavilan said:

    I'm looking at a 10k lease of a 2016 Acura ILX in Nebraska and trying to decide between the Premium or Tech Plus packages. What leasing options are available?

    .00051 MF and 57% residual for 36 or 39 months..

    Same numbers for either model.
    Any guesses on what the actual residual would be in 2018?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960
    xavilan said:

    kyfdx said:

    xavilan said:

    I'm looking at a 10k lease of a 2016 Acura ILX in Nebraska and trying to decide between the Premium or Tech Plus packages. What leasing options are available?

    .00051 MF and 57% residual for 36 or 39 months..

    Same numbers for either model.
    Any guesses on what the actual residual would be in 2018?
    None whatsoever ... why do you ask?

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  • xavilanxavilan Posts: 8
    I'm trying to figure out what real options I'll have at the end of the lease. I checked a TL 2015 vs 2012 and that ratio is 55%. So my trade in option is $0 but my purchase option has 2%xMSRP dollars.
  • xavilanxavilan Posts: 8
     xavilan said:
    I'm trying to figure out what real options I'll have at the end of the lease. I checked a TL 2015 vs 2012 and that ratio is 55%. So my trade in option is $0 but my purchase option has 2%xMSRP dollars.

    I meant TL New 2014 vs 2011. 
  • apdspiderapdspider Posts: 61
    Need MF, RV, and Incentives for the following lease please:

    2016 ILX Premium
    36 or 39 months
    10k/yr

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960
    apdspider said:

    Need MF, RV, and Incentives for the following lease please:

    2016 ILX Premium
    36 or 39 months
    10k/yr

    Thanks

    53% / 51% and .00011 MF

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  • Could I get the MF and Residual for April on the ILX with premium package 15k/yr 36 or 39 mo? Florida

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960

    Could I get the MF and Residual for April on the ILX with premium package 15k/yr 36 or 39 mo? Florida

    Thanks

    The Acura numbers are valid until 5/11/15 ....

    36/15 - 50%

    39/15 - 48%

    .00030 MF and $3000 lease cash.

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  • Could you please post the current money factor and residuals for the 2016 ILX with Premium and A-SPEC Package and Tech Plus and A-SPEC? 36/12k Michigan. Thank you
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960

    Could you please post the current money factor and residuals for the 2016 ILX with Premium and A-SPEC Package and Tech Plus and A-SPEC? 36/12k Michigan. Thank you

    Tech Plus - 56%

    A-Spec & Tech Plus w/ A-Spec - 54%

    .00051 MF

    $1500 lease cash on A-Spec; $1750 lease cash on other two trims.

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  • I see a few posts about money factor and residual %'s but wanted to know what negotiated price I should shoot for on a 2016 ILX in Upstate NY??? Looks like the MSRP is $28,820 base model.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960
    kylepcuck said:

    I see a few posts about money factor and residual %'s but wanted to know what negotiated price I should shoot for on a 2016 ILX in Upstate NY??? Looks like the MSRP is $28,820 base model.

    You can use the pricing tools at the top of the page (make / model / year) to help establish a target selling price.

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  • spidpooyspidpooy Posts: 182
    May I have the ILX lease numbers for following Trims, 36 and 39 month 12K and 10K per year:

    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch
    2) ILX Premium
    3) ILX Tech plus

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960
    spidpooy said:

    May I have the ILX lease numbers for following Trims, 36 and 39 month 12K and 10K per year:

    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch
    2) ILX Premium
    3) ILX Tech plus

    Thanks

    36/12 and 39/12 numbers (they are the same this month):
    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch - 56%
    2) ILX Premium - 56%
    3) ILX Tech plus - 56%

    MF is .00051 for all trims.

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  • spidpooyspidpooy Posts: 182
    Michaell said:

    spidpooy said:

    May I have the ILX lease numbers for following Trims, 36 and 39 month 12K and 10K per year:

    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch
    2) ILX Premium
    3) ILX Tech plus

    Thanks

    36/12 and 39/12 numbers (they are the same this month):
    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch - 56%
    2) ILX Premium - 56%
    3) ILX Tech plus - 56%

    MF is .00051 for all trims.
    How much is added on RV for 10K instead of 12K ?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960
    spidpooy said:

    Michaell said:

    spidpooy said:

    May I have the ILX lease numbers for following Trims, 36 and 39 month 12K and 10K per year:

    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch
    2) ILX Premium
    3) ILX Tech plus

    Thanks

    36/12 and 39/12 numbers (they are the same this month):
    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch - 56%
    2) ILX Premium - 56%
    3) ILX Tech plus - 56%

    MF is .00051 for all trims.
    How much is added on RV for 10K instead of 12K ?
    Sorry .. add 1% to 12K RV for 10K

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  • eugeneymicheugeneymich Posts: 3
    edited May 2015
    I visited one of the local dealerships today and got the following quote.

    2016 Acura ILX Premium and A-SPEC
    36 months/12k
    MSRP: $32,810
    Doc Fee: $230
    Tax: 6%
    Cap Cost: $30,240
    Money Factor: 0.00051
    RV: 0.54
    Down Payment: $0
    $413 per month

    If I do the calculation myself I get $394.32.
    Can anybody guess why there is $20 difference? Also, what do you think about this deal (good or bad)?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960

    I visited one of the local dealerships today and got the following quote.

    2016 Acura ILX Premium and A-SPEC
    36 months/12k
    MSRP: $32,810
    Doc Fee: $230
    Tax: 6%
    Cap Cost: $30,240
    Money Factor: 0.00051
    RV: 0.54
    Down Payment: $0
    $413 per month

    If I do the calculation myself I get $394.32.
    Can anybody guess why there is $20 difference? Also, what do you think about this deal (good or bad)?

    I confirm the MF of .00051 and residual of 54%.

    With your MSRP and cap cost, I get a payment with tax of $394.65 - much closer to your calculations than the dealers.

    Confirm with them the net cap cost .. might be adding a fee in there of about $700 or so that accounts for the difference.

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  • spidpooyspidpooy Posts: 182
    Michaell said:

    spidpooy said:

    Michaell said:

    spidpooy said:

    May I have the ILX lease numbers for following Trims, 36 and 39 month 12K and 10K per year:

    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch
    2) ILX Premium
    3) ILX Tech plus

    Thanks

    36/12 and 39/12 numbers (they are the same this month):
    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch - 56%
    2) ILX Premium - 56%
    3) ILX Tech plus - 56%

    MF is .00051 for all trims.
    How much is added on RV for 10K instead of 12K ?
    Sorry .. add 1% to 12K RV for 10K
    Thank you very much. Can we get these numbers for 24 months 10K as well ?

    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch
    2) ILX Premium
    3) ILX Tech plus
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,420
    spidpooy said:

    Michaell said:

    spidpooy said:

    Michaell said:

    spidpooy said:

    May I have the ILX lease numbers for following Trims, 36 and 39 month 12K and 10K per year:

    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch
    2) ILX Premium
    3) ILX Tech plus

    Thanks

    36/12 and 39/12 numbers (they are the same this month):
    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch - 56%
    2) ILX Premium - 56%
    3) ILX Tech plus - 56%

    MF is .00051 for all trims.
    How much is added on RV for 10K instead of 12K ?
    Sorry .. add 1% to 12K RV for 10K
    Thank you very much. Can we get these numbers for 24 months 10K as well ?

    1) ILX base with AccuraWatch
    2) ILX Premium
    3) ILX Tech plus
    63% residual for all three trims for 24mo, 10K/yr

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  • gwatergwater Posts: 12
    Could you please post the mf and residual for the ilx w/ tech+ 10k miles/yr in California? Thanks in advance. 
  • gwatergwater Posts: 12
    gwater said:
    Could you please post the mf and residual for the ilx w/ tech+ 10k miles/yr in California? Thanks in advance. 
    Sorry. I forgot to mention for 36mo
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,420
    gwater said:


    gwater said:

    Could you please post the mf and residual for the ilx w/ tech+ 10k miles/yr in California? Thanks in advance. 

    Sorry. I forgot to mention for 36mo

    .00035 MF and 57% residual. $1750 lease cash.

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  • spidpooyspidpooy Posts: 182
    edited May 2015
    MF for 36 months is 0.00051 or 0.00035 ? Michaell says earlier that MF is 0.00051 number for 39 month.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,420
    edited May 2015
    spidpooy said:

    MF for 36 months is 0.00051 or 0.00035 ? Michaell says earlier that MF is 0.00051 number for 39 month.

    New program came out on May 12th.

    Are you interested in a particular car? Or, in just checking out our work? ;)

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  • spidpooyspidpooy Posts: 182
    edited May 2015
    kyfdx said:

    spidpooy said:

    MF for 36 months is 0.00051 or 0.00035 ? Michaell says earlier that MF is 0.00051 number for 39 month.

    New program came out on May 12th.

    Are you interested in a particular car? Or, in just checking out our work? ;)
    Thank you very much.... I really appreciate your contribution in this forum. I am in the lease market this month and these information give me knowledge and negotiations power to lease my next vehicle with the right price.

    If you mind would you please check the new RV and let us know if it is the same for 39 and 36 months ?

    If RV and MF for 36 and 39 months are the same then no body would care about 36month lease.

    Thanks again.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960
    spidpooy said:

    kyfdx said:

    spidpooy said:

    MF for 36 months is 0.00051 or 0.00035 ? Michaell says earlier that MF is 0.00051 number for 39 month.

    New program came out on May 12th.

    Are you interested in a particular car? Or, in just checking out our work? ;)
    Thank you very much.... I really appreciate your contribution in this forum. I am in the lease market this month and these information give me knowledge and negotiations power to lease my next vehicle with the right price.

    If you mind would you please check the new RV and let us know if it is the same for 39 and 36 months ?

    If RV and MF for 36 and 39 months are the same then no body would care about 36month lease.

    Thanks again.
    Residual values on the ILX for 39 months are 2% lower than for 36 months.

    And, I would disagree that if they were the same, that nobody would get a 36 month lease. You would still be responsible for the tags/license for that last 3 month period - depending on where you live, that could be expensive.

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  • gwatergwater Posts: 12
    kyfdx said:

    gwater said:


    gwater said:

    Could you please post the mf and residual for the ilx w/ tech+ 10k miles/yr in California? Thanks in advance. 

    Sorry. I forgot to mention for 36mo
    .00035 MF and 57% residual. $1750 lease cash.

    Thank you. I was quoted the following lease deal for ILX Tech Plus 36mo 10,000 miles:
    MSRP: $33,820
    Discounts: $2,214.48
    Sales Tax (estimate) $2,856.92
    Fees (estimate) $457.75
    Down Payment: $1,000
    Cap Cost: $31,063.27
    Estimate Lease Payment: $407

    However, when I calculate it myself based on the 57% residual and .00035mf, I get $363.
    Any idea why the difference in calculated price? Is my math wrong? And do you think this is a good deal? Thanks in advance

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960
    gwater said:

    kyfdx said:

    gwater said:


    gwater said:

    Could you please post the mf and residual for the ilx w/ tech+ 10k miles/yr in California? Thanks in advance. 

    Sorry. I forgot to mention for 36mo
    .00035 MF and 57% residual. $1750 lease cash.
    Thank you. I was quoted the following lease deal for ILX Tech Plus 36mo 10,000 miles:
    MSRP: $33,820
    Discounts: $2,214.48
    Sales Tax (estimate) $2,856.92
    Fees (estimate) $457.75
    Down Payment: $1,000
    Cap Cost: $31,063.27
    Estimate Lease Payment: $407

    However, when I calculate it myself based on the 57% residual and .00035mf, I get $363.
    Any idea why the difference in calculated price? Is my math wrong? And do you think this is a good deal? Thanks in advance



    I would get the dealer to provide a final net cap cost number - with your discounts, down payment, taxes and fees, I get $33,920, not $31,063.

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  • gwatergwater Posts: 12
    Michaell said:
    gwater said:
    Could you please post the mf and residual for the ilx w/ tech+ 10k miles/yr in California? Thanks in advance. 
    Sorry. I forgot to mention for 36mo
    .00035 MF and 57% residual. $1750 lease cash.
    Thank you. I was quoted the following lease deal for ILX Tech Plus 36mo 10,000 miles: MSRP: $33,820 Discounts: $2,214.48 Sales Tax (estimate) $2,856.92 Fees (estimate) $457.75 Down Payment: $1,000 Cap Cost: $31,063.27 Estimate Lease Payment: $407 However, when I calculate it myself based on the 57% residual and .00035mf, I get $363. Any idea why the difference in calculated price? Is my math wrong? And do you think this is a good deal? Thanks in advance
    I would get the dealer to provide a final net cap cost number - with your discounts, down payment, taxes and fees, I get $33,920, not $31,063.
    Will check with the dealer thanks.  Just to clarify...  I believe that the difference in our calculated cap costs is due to the fact that I did not include the vehicle sales tax, as I was under the impression that in California you only pay sales tax on your lease payment, rather than the msrp of the vehicle.  Is that not true? Thank you all for your help. 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,420
    gwater said:


    Michaell said:

    gwater said:

    kyfdx said:

    gwater said:


    gwater said:

    Could you please post the mf and residual for the ilx w/ tech+ 10k miles/yr in California? Thanks in advance. 

    Sorry. I forgot to mention for 36mo
    .00035 MF and 57% residual. $1750 lease cash.
    Thank you. I was quoted the following lease deal for ILX Tech Plus 36mo 10,000 miles:
    MSRP: $33,820
    Discounts: $2,214.48
    Sales Tax (estimate) $2,856.92
    Fees (estimate) $457.75
    Down Payment: $1,000
    Cap Cost: $31,063.27
    Estimate Lease Payment: $407

    However, when I calculate it myself based on the 57% residual and .00035mf, I get $363.
    Any idea why the difference in calculated price? Is my math wrong? And do you think this is a good deal? Thanks in advance

    I would get the dealer to provide a final net cap cost number - with your discounts, down payment, taxes and fees, I get $33,920, not $31,063.

    Will check with the dealer thanks.  Just to clarify...  I believe that the difference in our calculated cap costs is due to the fact that I did not include the vehicle sales tax, as I was under the impression that in California you only pay sales tax on your lease payment, rather than the msrp of the vehicle.  Is that not true? Thank you all for your help. 

    That's true... in CA, you pay tax on the payment. Of course, any money paid upfront is taxed upfront (cap cost reductions, rebates, etc).

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  • gwatergwater Posts: 12
    According to the dealer, the residual for the ILX with tech plus is 55%, and not 57% as was mentioned here. That would seem to explain most of the difference in cost. Can you confirm this residual?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,420
    gwater said:

    According to the dealer, the residual for the ILX with tech plus is 55%, and not 57% as was mentioned here. That would seem to explain most of the difference in cost. Can you confirm this residual?

    Tech Plus 36mo, 10K/yr residual is 57%.

    Tech Plus A-Spec residual is 55%

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  • gwatergwater Posts: 12
    Thank you. Another question. If the dealer has already offered ~2k in savings off the msrp, is that likely already including Acura's $1750 lease cash? Or can I expect an additional $1750 off on top of the already offered savings? Sorry for the many ignorant questions. Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 152,420
    gwater said:

    Thank you. Another question. If the dealer has already offered ~2k in savings off the msrp, is that likely already including Acura's $1750 lease cash? Or can I expect an additional $1750 off on top of the already offered savings? Sorry for the many ignorant questions. Thanks

    You'll have to ask.. Looking at your numbers, it appears they have already included it. If they have, then that's not much of a discount.

    Cars that have big incentives from the factory should be selling cheap from the dealer, as well.

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  • spidpooyspidpooy Posts: 182
    I got a question in here, Does Acura calculate Residual Value of the car by multiplying base MSRP in RV% or multiplying base MSRP+Packages+Destination fee in RV% ?

    For example, assuming ILX base is $30K, Premium Package add $1K and Destination Fee add $0.5K. Do they multiply RV% by $31.5K or $31K or $30K ?

    Thanks
  • gwatergwater Posts: 12
    edited May 2015
    kyfdx said:
    Thank you. Another question. If the dealer has already offered ~2k in savings off the msrp, is that likely already including Acura's $1750 lease cash? Or can I expect an additional $1750 off on top of the already offered savings? Sorry for the many ignorant questions. Thanks
    You'll have to ask.. Looking at your numbers, it appears they have already included it. If they have, then that's not much of a discount. Cars that have big incentives from the factory should be selling cheap from the dealer, as well.
    Thanks. Then would it be reasonable to target the Edmunds suggestes true value price of $32,481 (1339 of msrp) before the lease cash, for a total savings of $3089 including the incentives? Or is that unrealistic? 
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960
    spidpooy said:

    I got a question in here, Does Acura calculate Residual Value of the car by multiplying base MSRP in RV% or multiplying base MSRP+Packages+Destination fee in RV% ?

    For example, assuming ILX base is $30K, Premium Package add $1K and Destination Fee add $0.5K. Do they multiply RV% by $31.5K or $31K or $30K ?

    Thanks

    Residual value is based on the bottom line number of the window sticker - base + options or packages + destination.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 145,960
    gwater said:


    kyfdx said:

    Thank you. Another question. If the dealer has already offered ~2k in savings off the msrp, is that likely already including Acura's $1750 lease cash? Or can I expect an additional $1750 off on top of the already offered savings? Sorry for the many ignorant questions. Thanks
    You'll have to ask.. Looking at your numbers, it appears they have already included it. If they have, then that's not much of a discount.

    Cars that have big incentives from the factory should be selling cheap from the dealer, as well.

    Thanks. Then would it be reasonable to target the Edmunds suggestes true value price of $32,481 (1339 of msrp) before the lease cash, for a total savings of $3089 including the incentives? Or is that unrealistic? 


    If you don't ask, you don't get. Dealer may be willing to deal at that number. ILX's haven't been too popular, hence the lease cash. You should be able to negotiate a price close to invoice before the lease cash is applied.

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