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Farout
The most recent figures I've seen is that from 4 to 7% of North Slope oil is exported (to Japan, Korea and China mostly). Here's one story from '05 - link. (Seattle Times)
Possibly but they react to what's happening in the real world. Both geopolitical tensions and inadequate refining capacity in the U.S. strongly impact oil and gasoline prices.
tidester, host
Hello,
I purchased a 06 CRD Limited, It has a February 4th, 06 build date. It had been in the shop at the dealership for at least a quarter of its very short life. Automatic shutdown system kills engine when the brake is applied. First time at 2200 miles, dealership replaced fuse and relay. In shop for 5 days that time. Second time it happened was two days after we got it from the shop. Dealership replaced EGR valve and also stripped out oil pan plug as a bonus. (The oil change was supposed to be a freebie for all of my hassles-instead it cost me another trip to correct the oil leak) This time it spent 20 days in the shop, but the loaner (o5 liberty gasser)was better than the first (01 dodge neon). The 05 was a very thirsty unit and not as quick as the 06 CRD. This evening, at 3300 miles, the third episode has started, applied brake at slow speed and CRD shuts off. All 3 episodes start when brake is applied at a slow speed 10 mph. The only difference is that I could restart the engine this time, the check engine light is on. It got me home this time, last 2 times I was stopped dead and could not restart it. Monday it will be in the dealers shop again, hope to get another loaner.
Overall I am very happy with my CRD, when it runs, it runs very well. It locks at 64 mph at 1800 rpm. I'm getting 23 mpg avg mostly hwy driving. Any thoughts or suggestions/advice please help. Thanks
This got me back to aem cone filters and the strength of a round shape versus the flat air filter-is anybody using the aem and if so how to keep from sucking hot air from the backside of the radiator forward into the intake.
My 06 CRD made it to church but died about 2 blocks from home today. It looks really good sitting on the rolloff towtruck.
Secondly, I remember caribou1 post about the deformation of the plastic tubes by overtightening? the hose clamps. The airbox tube hose clamp by the ps reservoir is deformed. Too loose suck unfiltered air, too tight deforms, another fine line. Probably should've found the torque setting in the shop manual.
Second air filter was not very dirty compared to the original air filter that was almost black. Probably turbo hoses are staying sealed.
4th fuel filter drain produced no water, but there was a smattering if black specks and flakes in the drain fuel. Factory fuel filter was hand tight like it was supposed to be. Used new gasket from new filter drain fitting with old drain fitting that has a water sensor. Also there appears to be a place on the drain fitting to attach a small hose and the fitting acts as a mini funnel to catch fuel/water that is drained from the filter separator. Threads on the fitting have a flat spot to allow liquid to flow when the fitting is just loosened. May try that instead of a funnel next time.
Attached a clear plastic hose to the bleeder screw on top of the fuel filter assembly and pumped the plunger until fuel came out of the fuel filter. When the engine was started it kept running instead of needing a second prime. Pretty basic stuff, really.
Things get worse when you have to buy the Euro...
Heating oil in comparison is 3.65 USD per gallon.
I hope you feel better now!
The "D-CAT" engine produces 177 HP from a 2.2 Liter engine.
We were 4 adults + cargo over the weekend and I compared the driving efficiency of the Toyota Corolla Verso to that of the Liberty CRD.
Both vehicles are very similar in size.
Acceleration is clearly more powerful above 50 mph and constant up to much more than 85, our speed limit. But there is nothing under the pedal below 2000 rpm even in 2nd gear, and engine braking is desperately absent. Once again I think the 2.8L 4 cylinder does a great job with it's automatic tranny when the ECU stops conflicting with other accessories. Let's hope DC will not be forced to choose a smaller engine because mountain driving will become a nightmare. BTW, it was already snowing at 9000 feet altitude and there was no loss of power! Mileage was similar to that of the new Jeep specs. Instant mileage during acceleration blocks the readout at 99.9 Liters/100 KM :sick:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060117/FREE/60116010/1041
Made a appointment for weds with the dealership. Does this sound like the EGR problem ???
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=CW&Dato=20060802&Kategori=PHO- TOS01&Lopenr=802001&Ref=PH
Farout
How did your trans work turnout? Mine is still in the shop for the same thing after 35 days. Now they tell me they are replacing the radiator and it will be friday. At this rate they will replace everything on the vehicle - I forgot what the thing even looks like!
Finally new2diesel, are you sure you are calling the right dealer that has your CRD? Maybe the dealer that had it at first had it towed to some other dealer?
New2diesel, you have the patients of JOB! Your story needs to be put in Readers Digest!
Could you please tell us the name of this 5 Star Dealer? PLEASE (remember no phone numbers)
Farout
Even if you have not been looking and thinking for yourself, please pray that everyone who wants out of the crd will be offered an escape (like merchantibilty that I have posted twice now).
There would have to be a web site or snail mail address that would collect the owners name address, and VIN. This would take some very serious advertisement to get the word out. Then consider the fact that altogether 11,000 CRD's were made for the USA in 05 and 06. If you could get at least 1/2 of these owners to say they feel they were part of a "test market" and had they known that was what they were, they would not have bought the CRD. This is at least a 12 month project. The distribution of this information is a huge problem, and unless some paper or TV network picked up on this story to make this a very public issue, there is just a minor chance CDX would make any effort in the buyers direction.
There are always those who get excited and all worked up, and when push comes to shove they chicken out, and then you stand all alone. I know because I have dome a few small protests a long time ago and it did not turn out as well as I had hoped.
In all honesty the only thing I can see that might have a better impact would be if everyone just on this forum would call 1800 992 1997 and on #5 give the person the reason why you are not happy. if only 10% of the 11,000 owners called this would at least make someone take note.
Dave, perhaps going a few months might be a good thing for you. You could establish with time your CRD is not up to par.
Farout
I like your sense of humor! The dealership said they bumped the radiator while they were working on it so they are replacing it. Actually this dealership is pretty good by comparison. The main holdup has been DCX with parts. The only upside with all this is that the longer they keep the car the better my case is against them for settlement. Of course the dealer that I promised the car on trade to isn't very happy right now! All I can say is I hope no one else has to go through this - but I am pretty sure some of you will. I have no conficence in these vehicles - especially for off road vehicles. There is a better than average chance these CRD's will dump you in the middle of nowhere if you take them off road. As I said before - good idea poor execution.
Do you know if the BCM recall you got was a problem with o6 models only?
Tailgate
to get 21.05 and 20.36 while towing this thru very mountainous terrain.
I'm taking it in tonight for the CEL which has now gone out. It went on around the 565 mile mark.
Good luck with yours !!! I hope they are paying your rental !!!
Farout
I always hate to extend my good experience with this CRD, in fear it might back fire on me. But, we have found it to be reliable and holds up well on on our testing grounds of a road. We do not drive it any different than the first 3.7 Liberty we had. Both seem about the same, except the mpg, which the CRD is way ahead of the 3.7 L.
With the added 230 lbs or more makes the ride a hole lot more comfortable.
I understand how it is when you have made up your mind that this is not going to please me no matter what. I have been there a few times my self. I hope this ends on Friday as you say, they owe you that and more!
Farout
nescosmo
We had a 3.7 Liberty for 8 months in 05, and the engine sucked fuel, had modest pick up. I was very uphappy with 14 to 17mpg, and most of the MPG were in the 16 mpg range. That's why we bought the CRD. The week after we got our CRD diesel prices went way up over the gas prices. The prices of diesel have remained higher than gasoline from that point until today. This is a first that diesel has remained higher that gasoline.
However even with higher fuel prices we are keeping diesel costs to .114 cents per mile. Which is still less per mile than our 3.7 would be getting at even 18 mpg.
I doubt you will see a diesel in a Nitro or a Liberty for a long time to come if ever. To put a diesel in now because of the cost increases of diesel engine that are legal with the 2007 Federal emissions, who would be willing to pay in the $34.000 range for a Sport CRD? Just wait until the GC CRD with the MB Bluetec comes out, I won't be supprised if the price starts in the $38,000 range.
The thing I think about is the bigger a vehicle gets the more weight it luggs around, the more fuel it uses. I expect the window sticker of the nitro to be the same as the Dakota is with the 3.7 . The added maybe 6 inches is not enough for me to think about trading in. I really don't plan on changing vehicles unless it's for some unforsen thing.
Farout
Tell "Steve" hi for me,ok ??
Later, Skeeter
Tesoro Alaska
Applicable to Non-Rural Alaska
Highway 15 ppm Diesel Fuel (ULSD) Distribution Deadlines
�� Refiners – June 1, 2006
�� Downstream – September 1, 2006
�� Retail & Wholesale Purchase Consumer – October 15, 2006
�� Anti-Downgrading – October 15, 2006
�� Applies only to downstream of refinery
Hope you're staying dry up there; can't believe the cabins floating down the Little Su.
I am guessing that the BCM recall is for 06 models only. Now that it's done the thing chimes at me when I do U-turns.
I am of the opinion that trusting a dealer such as new2diesel has done, can leave a person holding on to the rope they have around his neck, and then someone pulls it and leaving a man to hang. Most people want to trust dealerships, but dealers such as he has, leaves a bad taste for all dealers doing a good job.
I say new2diesel is trust worthy. We should not publicly bring someone up to the complete forum, to challenge their integrity.
Farout
Skeeter
Tailgate
Hows your CRD working for ya? I am pretty content with ours. But when ever I brag, that's when if something is going to go out it proberly will.
WAY....Farout
Farout
The CRD kickboxed all the way up the BW parkway every time I cycled across 55 mph or 65 mph despite my ebullience in an earlier post that TSB 18-023-06 resolved the tranny shudder. So, at 500 miles after this lamo TSB, the tranny learned its way back to award winning meadow muffin tossing. When I can go for an entire oil change without shuddering I'll post as much to this forum. I apologize for the false hope.
Jones