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The only aftermarket ones that I have seen where you have to move a "joy stick" or something like that are the less expensive hand held ones that are not really designed for car use. The more expensive, yet still a fraction of the price of factory equipped nav systems, have touch screens like a factory equipped one.
The great think about the aftermarket ones is you can take it out of one car and use it in another. The nav system in my caddy cannot be used in my daily drive yet my hand held can be taken anywhere (other cars, boats, planes or on foot).
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Think of it like your home theater. You have a display (LCD screen) and A/V receiver (head unit and speakers) and you can add any A/V components that you want (satellite, cable, OTA tuner, cd player, dvd player, laserdisc, etc.
So you can add a XM or Sirius module, aftermarket Nav, computer, mp3 player, etc.
That's the future.
http://www.carspace.com/scape2
Ford has already announced that their U.S. B car will be built by Mazda, but that's at least a couple of years out.
As for diesels, it gets down to fuel type and emissions requirements in addition to consumer acceptance. What is successful for a niche vehicle like the VW might not be successful on a larger scale.
Finally, the jury is still out on whether the public will accept and buy these ultra small cars and/or diesels in large enough numbers to support bringing them over from Europe.
windingroad.com
Good news though, better this than a wagon
That being said, I think it's a great idea from Ford, as long as they don't G6-ify it and make it look like garbage. I think the Fusion has got the "look" that excels in both sedan and coupe form, unlike the G6.
An idea that Ford should consider is to offer the 3.5L V6 with 6-speed manual on the coupe ONLY, similar to what Honda did with their V6/6-speed manual option initially.
http://news.com.com/Carmakers+race+to+accommodate+iPods/2100-11389_3-6101744.htm- l?tag=fd_carsl
Ford said it got an earful from people who thought the new naming scheme was downright confusing. The customers and dealers were unanimous in telling us that, Ford spokesman Jim Cain said. "We decided with finality that we're going to launch these vehicles as the MKX (pronounced em-kay-ex) and the MKZ (pronounced em-kay-zee)."
http://tinyurl.com/zxpqg
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060804/AUTO01/608040392/1121- /AUTO
06
- Get it now (not an issue, i can wait)
- Current incentives (1.9% for 60 months although I expect 0% to come soon)
07
- Standard side airbags
- Lower total MSRP: $690
- Mp3 jack
Anybody see a flaw in my thinking that waiting for an 07 is better?
I am sure there are people who are bothered by side airbags and audio jacks.
Fusion won JD powers Appeal award for the mid size sedan segment! Also, go to MSN auto site and read the reviews on the Fusion by thier writers.
Are you getting the SE V6 or SE I4? auto or manual with the I4? Color?
Actually I was supposed to be test driving the 4 cyl and they put me in V6 by mistake. The only thing that tipped me off was when the indicator showed that the car was in 6th gear.
I owned a 3.0 Duratec in an Escape. It was a nice engine don't get me wrong. But the 3.0 in the Fusion spins up nicely. When you push the pedal it takes a split second for the engine to spin up. But when it does.. its nice..
look at past reviews, it lacks low end power.
I was actually on my way to buy a 2007 Toyota Camry thank god Ford gave me a good deal all around.
They are having all kinds of "Toyota woes". Me I'm at 6000 miles or so and all is well, no hesitation, no rattles, no vibration at 70 miles per hour, no nothing. Well still can't see out of the back too well, can't see that improving.
Also I'm still getting that rattle from the flashlight I placed in the passenger door, I need this car to have rattles like my previous cars and this does the trick.
What I don't understand is that when I pull out in traffic and step on it a bit, suddenly everyone is so far behind.
All in all for a Mexican built car just as good as a Japaness product.
My 97 Escort tripped 100k and the check engine light went on all in one day. Thought this was a sign.
I got Merlot with Camel interior.
The Fusion pickings are getting PRETTY thin on the ground. Don't expect 0.0% for 60 on these cars, they will be gone before it comes down to that.
My partner will be the primary driver for this car so I don't mind the Auto 2 much, and he insisted on it.
Oh and my insurance only went up $400 per year (NJ) and I did not have collision or comprehensive on the Escort.
Mark
Edmunds list the Mazda6 V6 with 199 ft-lbs @ 5000 rpm and the Fusion with 205 @ 4800. This is not much of a difference.
Is there a greater difference at lower RPM? If so, why would this be the case when it is the same engine? :confuse:
Interestingly in the I4 it appears to go the other way. The Mazda has slightly higher torque (155 vs. 150) at the same rpm (4000) and the same peak HP at lower RPM compared to the Ford. It would be interesting to know what the torque of the V6 is at 4000 rpm for comparison.
Taken together this would mean there is less difference between the 4 and the 6 in the Mazda than there is between these two engines in the Ford.
Oh, and I also just remebered when I drove the I-4 it was just me but when I drove the V6 it was me, my wife, and a sales woman. So with maybe about a couple hundred pounds due to the engine plus two extra people the V6 was moving about an extra 500 pounds.
However, Ford published its HP figures using the SAE test. When the Fusion was preproduction, Ford saying the Fusion would be around 210hp. After the new SAE test they realised they were grossly under estimating HP.
Mark.
Thanks,
Damian
Production did begin and you can now "build and price" as well as search inventory for one on Ford's website.
http://www.fordvehicles.com
You broke the rental car already? What's great about that?
I'm sure it's coming since it was announced on other Ford sites, but the question is whether the aux input will be on the very first 2007 Fusions or is it going to be added later in the model year.
EXTERIOR CHANGES & AUDIO CHANGES
New Colors Added:
— Dark Amethyst(PG)
— Silver Birch(JP)
— Alloy(G5)
NEW STANDARD FEATURES
• Mast Antenna
• Audio Input (iPod) Jack
• Fold-down Passenger Seats (SE, SEL only)
NEW OPTIONS
• All Wheel Drive (available with V6 engine)
• Satellite Radio (available on SE, SEL)
• DVD-based Navigation (available on SE, SEL)
• Rear Spoiler (available on SE, SEL)
NEW PACKAGES AVAILABLE
I4 Appearance Package
Availability:
— Optional on I4 SE
— Available only w/the following exterior colors:
Black, Tungsten or Red Fire
— Available only w/Charcoal Black interior
— Not available w/leather seats
Includes:
— Black chrome grille
— 17" SEL wheels w/black painted pockets
— Foglamps w/color-keyed bezel
— Red stitching and leather accents on seats, door
trim, steering wheel and console
Job 2 currently starts 9/04/06. (subject to change)
My dealer for one is not ordering alot of Job 1 Fusions so other dealers might be doing the same which means you might not see alot of 07s until end of September.
1 note, the "ipod" jack is just a 1/8" mini jack. To play music, you will still have to use the controls on your ipod. Coming by the spring will be true ipod integration as an option. With this system, you can control your ipod through the steering wheel controls and through the head unit. Your iPod will also be charged up.
The I4 Appearance package looks great, I'll try to find photos.
Mark.
I found the answer. The text below is straight from the 2007 Fusion official order guide and includes revisions up to June 12th.
Important Note regarding Job 1 and Job 2:
The following items become available with Job 2
• Standard equipment: Audio input jack, Mast antenna, Flat fold passenger seat (SE, SEL)
• Optional equipment: All Wheel Drive, Rear Spoiler, Satellite Radio, DVD-based Navigation
• New colors added: Silver Birch, Dark Amethyst, Alloy
I was under the assumption the jack would be standard for JOB1 since it is in the Mustang, Edge, etc. but I guess I read it wrong.
First day I saw this one, it happened to be parked a few rows away from a 2007 Camry. The Camry looked like a bulbous dour beast compared to the Fusion. Seems the new Camry is having its new model growing pains as well, with transmission issues. By contrast, I have seen few, if any posts regarding issues with Fusion/Milan.
Too bad my 2000 Taurus SES Duratech is still fairly young in miles and age and only has 60K miles on it! It has been running great as well, by the way. A car which has been much underrated by the press and buying public.
May be Fusion has different 2.3 (with VVT or whatever) than Focus? Focus is really fast from stop. But reliability is another issue. Sable is very reliable - had no issues in 4 years/ 75K miles. Well actually I would like to upgrade handling and ride but Sable is so dependable so do not know do I really need a new car.
Here is a quicker summary of engine featuers:
Duratec 23 - 2.3L DOHC 16V I-4 (Focus ZX4 ST and Fusion)
The Duratec 23 - 2.3L DOHC 16V I-4 engine is standard on Focus ZX4 ST and Fusion S, SE and SEL I-4 models and comes with a standard 5-speed manual transmission. A 5-speed automatic transmission is optional on Fusion (late availability). A 4-speed automatic transmission is not available on Focus.
Major features and benefits: Aluminum engine block and cylinder heads help contribute to low vehicle weight for great off-the-line acceleration
Air Induction System (AIS) with an extended life air filter that is designed to last 15 years or 150,000 miles under normal driving conditions (Focus)
Camshafts are driven by a timing chain, not a belt, for more robustness
intake Variable Cam Timing (iVCT) advances or retards the intake cam timing up to 29 degrees, helping to deliver substantial torque while reducing emissions
Provides power on demand for strong off-the-line performance and mid-range acceleration
Variable Intake System ( VIS ) controls the intake manifold runner length. At higher engine speeds (above 3000 rpm), butterfly valves open to create short runners for improved engine power
DOHC design helps improve engine breathing and performance by using four valves per cylinder
Sequential multi-port electronic fuel injection (SEFI) enhances the fuel delivery system by providing fuel at precisely the right moment for optimum performance
Includes long-life stainless steel exhaust system
150,000-mile tune-up interval with regular fluid and filter changes (Fusion) - under normal driving conditions
Specifications
Type 4-Cylinder, In-line Dual Overhead Cam,16V
Powertrain Electronics
Powertrain Control Module
Displacement
2.3L (140 CID)
Horsepower
151 SAE net @ 5750 rpm (Focus)
160 SAE net @ 6250 rpm (Fusion)
Torque
154 lb.-ft. @ 4250 rpm (Focus)
156 lb.-ft. @ 4250 rpm (Fusion)
Compression Ratio
9.7:1
Bore and Stroke
3.44 in. x 3.70 in.
Engine Block Material
Cast Aluminum
Cylinder Head Material
Cast Aluminum
Main Bearings
5
Valve Lifters
Mechanical Bucket
Fuel Delivery
Sequential Multi-port Electronic Fuel Injection
Fuel
Regular Unleaded (87 octane minimum)
Exhaust Single, Stainless Steel w/Catalytic Converter
I see a 2007 Camry in my work parking lot everyday (no, it's not mine). It looks very elegant except for that dopey front grill. The Fusion on the other hand has an eye catching front grill, but I don't see anything exceptional about the rest of the car's styling.
I think you know that the number of posts regarding car problems has no statistical validity.
Someday you'll give up that Taurus of yours and see what you're missing.
I never said that number of posts in Edmunds has statistical validity. However there seem to be absolutely no posts on any significant Fusion issues posted by anyone anywhere in the Edmunds forums to date, and a whole lot of them on Camry transmission problems, so I have to believe
Toyota has some birthing pains going on with 2007 Camry that Ford seems to have avoided with Fusion.