Chrysler Pacifica Prices Paid and Buying Experience

iibbmm

I also have a 2006 Limited that I purchased new. My brakes are smooth and I don't have any rattles inside the vehicle.

lukep

I havent even taken a test drive before I bought it.........because the battery was dead so they gave me a different one to test drive not the original one. That was the only misteake i made........regred it now.......CHRYSLER IS AWFULL....... Im sorry to say but.........i had bad experiences with american cars. Ford suck, chrysler.....now that dimler owns it sucks, chevy suck.......what can I say......strictly japaneeeeeeeeese.

researching3

The Pacifica caught my eye on the road, test drove a 2007 Pacifica, AWD, Spring Edition. Lots of bells & whistles. My concern is overall value and dependability. I'm not ready for a sedan yet, like the crossover. Also looking at the Nissan Murano. Any suggestions or info would be greatly appreciated.

qbrozen

leasing or buying?

i wouldn't buy a new Pacifica. The depreciation is absolutely atrocious.

BUT, having said that, I feel it is a great vehicle for the money. They just don't sell well, so you'd save a ton buying a slightly used one. The problem, of course, is the '07 has the new drivetrain that you wouldn't get in a used one ... unless you found a slightly used '07.

lukep

STICK TO MURANO MY FRIEND.........JUST A GOOD ADVICE THERES TO MANY ISSUES AND PROBLEMS WITH THE PACIFICA. EVEN THE 2007 HAS A TRANSMISSION ISSUE ALREADY AND IT JUST CAME OUT. I HAVE A 2006 AND IM AT THE DEALER 1 A WEEK....FOR SOME ENDLESS CRAP. WHEN I HAD A 2002 PATFINDER I ONLY WENT FOR OIL CHANGE...THATS IT. MURANO IS THE WAY TO GO.PACIFICA IS A >>>>> :lemon:

Jason5

Researching3.. The Murano is certainly a nice vehicle. A good friend of mine owns one and likes it, so I'd certainly give it a try. He, however, doesn't need quite so much room or a third row so it makes sense for him. I believe he's on his second year with it. I'd be inclined--at this point--to wait for it's replacement which is due in a year or two.
I would recommend the Pacifica without reservation. Although I've only had mine for 4 months and 7500 miles, it never ceases to surprise me with it's performance, room, comfort, relative economy and handling. For the record, it has been trouble free and my 5 Star Dealer falls over themselves to make sure I knoq to come to them if problems arise. They twice provided me new loaner cars when my Pacifica was having accessories installed that required an overnight stay. Also when it was discovered that it came from the factory with a misshapen rotor. Instead of simply replacing the bad rotor, they replaced both rotors, and the brake pads and discs--fearing that the vibration may have damaged or worn both.
Lastly, as a longtime member of this board dating back to 1999, I feel compelled to provide a history lesson. There have ALWAYS been individuals (at least two) who log on with new profiles claiming to be "owners" who complain about how bad their Chrysler vehicles are. The stories are horrendous--translation unlikely and unbelievable. They are easy to spot because they keep their emails private and they create a profile the same day or within a week of posting their "catastrophic" experience. I believe we are seeing one or two of them here now. Your Chrysler will likely be as reliable and competent a domestic vehicle as you'll find. My last several have been. Cheers and happy motoring..!

lukep

IM TELLING YOU STICK TO JAPANEESEEE........LESS PROBLEMS AND BULL.......... TRUST ME. AMERICAN CARS ARE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :lemon:

Jason5

I rest my case...

qbrozen

good thing the pacifica ain't american, huh? and what exactly is japanese (oh, sorry, japaneeseee)?

I bought an american-built car and so far it has been flawless. Gets me where I need to go. Its fast and comfortable. Its got Honda badges on it.

wait, that's another discussion around here somewhere ...

stangefellow

I bougth an 04 2 years ago, its got 47k miles and the only thing I've ever had to do to it was change the oil, put gas in the tank and air in the tires. Be far the best vehicle I've had

kkodal

:shades: well i bought my pacifica used from a rental company which i thought later was a mistake BUT i've owned the vehicle for a year now. Till now not a single problem thank god. The only thing that i wish i had a couple options on it like leather with heated seats and awd fog lights and HID's but then again as far as the reliability this car is awesome. I am loving it and enjoying it a lot. I have the 05 touring fwd with dvd entertainment system. Another thing i like about mine is that since i don't have all the options it gives me motivation to do some more on the car. And every option i put on the car makes me happier even more. So far i upgraded the sound system and got the auto dim mirror next week i'll be working on the fog lights and the auto head light option.
as far as american cars go i used to think that american cars were trouble makers too but i had an 02 explorer xlt before my pac and i did not have a single problem with that suv either?these two vehicles changed my mind on how american cars are...
i guess it is not the vehicle ... It is you LUCK!!!

stayarmy

I had an 05 Pacifica and it was great, until my wife was hit head on by a Yukon. It totaled it, but the only injury to the wife was air bag brusies. So I went and got her a 07 Pacifica and it has 2000 miles on it and we call it the "Hanger Queen" because it is always in the shop. This week we had the torque convertor replaced. It fixed the problem for now. Makes you think what is next.... :lemon:

CarMan@Edmunds

Thanks Nportcarguy. DaimlerChrysler is currently providing $2,000 lease cash on 5 passenger and $2,500 on 6 passenger Pacificas. In addition to this lease cash, there is a $1,000 lease loyalty offer. As far as this vehicle's lease program goes, if you were to lease a base 2007 Chrysler Pacifica AWD through Chrysler Financial right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00177 and 42%, respectively.

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jingi16

Currently i am leasing Chrysler Pacifica 2005 and i am paying 297$ per month for 24 month 15,000 per year. My lease is ending tomorrow and dealer offered me to give 2007 Pacifica for $230 (with lease loyalty and employee discount). This is for 7 seater (touring) and 12,000 miles/year for 24 months.

Is this a good deal? This is in Michigan. How do we calculate the leasing amount? I see people talking about "money factor", "residual value".....how I use these numbers. Any links would be great.

Thanks,

stardust10

We've been looking to by either a minivan or some other "smaller-than-the-darn-Durango" vehicle to replace our leased 04 Durango. Have kids and sometimes travel, so we'd like to have a bit of extra space. We did consider some larger sedans, but not sure if we want to go that small. (Maxima, Avalon, etc... used)

Have an online offer from a dealer we've been working with (that we leased the Durango from) for a new 07 Pacific Touring.

He says MSRP $28,480 Invoice $26,800
He's offering $500 below invoice and then a $2500 incentive off of that. TTF's total somewhere around $1200 and so he came up with $25,000 OTD. If we decide to make an offer on this, what would you recommend as a starting point?

I am concerned about gas mileage a bit with these and also the steep depreciation. Any thoughts on used prices? Other vehicle recommendations are welcome, too, though I know this is the Pacifica forum.

Thanks,
Christina

PS: Should also mention that one reason we are considering this deal is that we can get them to pay our remaining 3 lease pymts and the turn-in fee. We're over mileage, so that would be helpful!

stardust10

Okay, here's what we paid/got: (much nicer car than the previous one we were looking at...)

07 Touring with 29T package (fog lights, power liftgate, upgraded stereo with 6 CD/DVD/MP3 changer, Sirius, Leather seats), premium floormats, and they are installing power moonroof. MRSP $30,030 plus $1000 for moonroof install = MSRP $31,030. OTD 25,000 plus they are adding 7yr/70,000 mi extended warranty free. Also paying our remaining 3 lease payments and turn-in fee ($375) for Durango.

We feel like we got a good deal - thanks to this forum for the idea to ask for the extended warranty - they balked, but in the end they knew we would walk if not added.

Hope this helps someone...
Christina

qbrozen

sounds good. enjoy!

kkodal

awesome deal!!
congrats and welcome to pac family.
hope you enjoy your ride!

sercon

Christina,

Congratulations. We were looking at the CRV'S and the Pilot. My wife's battery went dead on her 2002 Town & Country (which she loves) and when we jumped it the speedometer pinned and got stuck. I told her while she was at the dealer to test drive the Pacifica. Guess what...she loved it. They gave her a price on a Touring AWD w/ the Spring Special Package 29P which has almost every option available.

MRSP was $34915.00 and they said the car was on sale for $32,800 -$500 from the dealer and andother deduction of $3500 in rebates. This is without a counter offer or running and internet sales check through the edmunds site.
We had the bumper to bumper on the 2002 van(which I paid for) and really only had to use it once which really paid for the the warranty.

I was also thinking about asking them to through in the extended warranty but didn't know if they would go for it.

Thanks for the info and good luck with your new Pacifica.

Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

eugened

You MUST get extended warranty. It is a must with Chrysler cars. I had 2001 PT Cruiser and paid dearly (about 4000$) in after warranty repairs (on a low mileage car).I kept it for 7 years and finally trade it in. I like Pacifica but went with Mazda5 instead. Can not spend even 1 cent on Chrysler any more. They lost me as a driver for my lifetime.

sercon

eugened,

My thoughts exactly. I kinda thought that I would only by Honda's in the future. I have a 2003 Accord and my three kids have all gotten Honda's since. I have had such a great experience with not only the cars but the service department when you have an issue which is very rare. They certainly do take care of you better the the american car companies. That is why I am a little hesitant.
But on the other hand as I mentioned we now have a 2002 Town & Country and fortunatley over the past five years the only problem we had was the liftgate and the warranty covered all of that.

Decision....Decisions....thanks again for the input and good luck with the Mazda.

fargodog

Hello,
Does anybody know the lease programs for July for the Pacifica? I am wondering what they are for the AWD for 24 and 36 months, 15,000 and 20,000 miles per year. Also, any lease incentives/loyalty discounts appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Dennis

CarMan@Edmunds

Hi jingi16. It sounds like you are new to leasing, if so you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.

The fact that you are able to purchase, or in this case lease, your new Pacifica through DaimlerChrysler's employee purchase program assures you of getting a good selling price. I doubt that any dealer would mark-up the money factor for an employee lease, but you can always double check the money factor that is being used to calculate your vehicle's monthly payment if you want. Chrysler Financial's lease program for the Pacifica varies by trim level. If you tell me exactly which model you are getting, I would be happy to give you its current numbers.

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CarMan@Edmunds

Hello Dennis. I have seen DaimlerChrysler's July lease program for the vehicle that you are interested in and I would be happy to help you out. Chrysler Financial's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2007 Chrysler Pacifica Base AWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00055 and 47%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00150 and 40%. 15,000 miles per year is the highest mileage allowance that Chrysler Financial publishes residual values for. If you need to drive more than this, you will have to purchase additional miles on a per-mile basis. It is less expensive to do so at lease signing than it is to wait until the end of your lease and have to pay an excess mileage penalty.

When negotiating your lease on this vehicle, make sure to take the $2,000 lease cash that DaimlerChrysler is providing on 5 passenger and $2,500 that it is providing on 6 passenger models into account. It is also providing $500 dealer cash, $1,000 bonus cash, and $1,000 loyalty cash on leases of the '07 Pacifica. All these cash offers can be combined to help you negotiate an attractive capitalized cost for your lease.

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riv7298

Hi Car Man,

My wife and I want to lease the 2007 AWD Chrysler Pacifica Touring. I wanted to know where we can find out the money factor for this car. Would we have to go through a bank website? If so, which bank sponsors Chrysler? I'm in the process of figuring lease payments so that we will be in a better position to negotiate when we approach the dealer.

mr_anton89

Through my neighbor I am able to get Employee Pricing. From looking over the invoice I see the holdback is $1,000. The dealer I am working with has over 70 pacificas in stock and three exact copies of the signature model I am looking for. They say the EP is set in stone, but I know from experience its not.

What is a reasonable profit for the dealer? They are also taking in my trade about another $2,000 for them.
I hope to buy on Saturday.

texmex

Wow! There are some horror stories in here w/ respect to the Pacifica. We have an '04 Touring AWD Pacifica and (knock on wood) haven't had any problems. We especially love how it handles in the snow. My wife and I are both healthcare providers and there are NO snow days- we have to go in. All we've done is change the oil and filter. Ours is a lease and we're thinking of keeping it. Good luck to others looking to own or lease !

soch

My neighbor also works for Chrysler. So how does EP work? Can the Employees get EP for friends & relatives?

mr_anton89

The employee only gets two actual employee price pin numbers. As far as the employee choice price, a higher level employee price still below invoice, i think that they can give all the pin numbers they want out. Ask your neighbor about it. You have any comment on my post?

qbrozen

What is a reasonable profit for the dealer? They are also taking in my trade about another $2,000 for them.
I hope to buy on Saturday.

Well, 2 things. First is that "reasonable profit" can be interpreted in so many ways. Personally, on a car like the Pacifica, I would leave no real profit if possible. That means either flat invoice minus any incentives/rebates, or even dipping into holdback. If your EP is already below that number, then I think that's more than reasonable.

2nd, you can't necessarily assume a $2k profit for them on your trade. They may not keep it. If they send it to auction, they will probably make nothing on it, if they give you fair value.

mr_anton89

07 Pacifica Signature FWD

MSRP: $33,495 (Options on Moonroof and Floor Mats)
Employee Price: $29,760
Rebates:
$2,500 - In Lieu of APR
$1,500 - Wrangler Lessee
$1,000 - None
$500 - Lessee Dealer Cash
$500 - None
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Dealer offer of $23,760

Holdback is $983

Should I haggle anymore on this deal, they say you can't but with previous experience I have. Or is this deal good and I should be happy with it?
They are a large volume dealer and have 80 Pacificas, with three of these Signature models left which all are marine blue. There are more in my area.

Do you think now is the time to buy, or should I wait another month and hope for 0% for 72, or wait a little more for the 08's which will soon have the same amount of cash on the hood? :confuse:

Thanks again.

qbrozen

Well, I may be wrong, but I believe you won't see that kind of trunk money on the '08s while there are '07s on the ground.

Personally, I think $10k off is fantastic and you should bite. They may dip into the holdback to get the deal done, but I wouldn't do it if they've been pleasant to deal with.

mr_anton89

Thanks for your input. I'm financing for 72 months and I would hate to buy now and then have 0% or even 2.9% rates come out. Chrysler knows they have a ton of these Pacificas out there. Its a gamble.

qbrozen

ouch! Even with the deep discounts, I wouldn't finance this car for 6 years. The depreciation is pretty brutal, so you will be upside-down for a LONG time at 6-year financing.

Anyway, its very very rare (if ever) for a manufacturer to offer huge discounts on top of low financing. So while a financing deal may come up, chances are it won't be $10k off sticker, as you have gotten.

mr_anton89

Right now the special finance rate is 4.9% for 72. Its cheaper to go through capital one at 6.99% and then get the $2,500 rebate instead.

So my thinking is that maybe they will lower the APR and still have the $2,500 attached to it. August is when the firesale rebates hit and I don't want to miss those.

I have no choice but to go with the 72 month. I was looking at used values and with the 10k off that puts me in a good spot for resale. I'm not really too worried either as I plan on keeping this vehicle for a while.

In your opinion should I buy now or wait and see what next month holds. The incentives can only stay the same or get bettter right?

Thanks for your input.

Also, I was going to see if my dealer could write up the papers as a sale for this month and if they improve we could just redo the paperwork.

qbrozen

i don't really want to say you should wait. When we got ours 2 years ago, the prices actually went up a week after we got our deal. You just never know.

mr_anton89

BOUGHT IT!

Signature FWD Moonroof and Floor Mats and dealer added "free" chrome rims. I'm not sure how they got on there - got a line of oh i pulled up the wrong one and its not on the window sticker. Anyways.

PT with payoff of 6033.17
Taxes of 6.5%
All fees and whatever else they came up with.
OTD for $27,300.

I figured it out to be $26,450. So given that I'm still convinced that my PT is worth $5,200 and that price was figured with that I think I did alright. Figure that the $26,450 is at a $5,200 T-I, that difference means I got $4,300 for my o1 pt with 96,000 miles.

I think I got a pretty good deal.

Purchased at Brunswick Auto Mart.

nancy61

Sounds like you got a great deal, but what exactly is a Signature Employee Offer? Is everyone eligible for that?

I'm in midst of negotiating right now. MSRP IS $32,875 (Touring FWD with Spring Special Package). They are offering $26,900 (that's with the $3,500 rebate). Still seems a bit high and I think I can get them down more but wondering if I can bring up the signature employee offer.

Thoughts?

mr_anton89

I'm refering to the Signature Edition Pacifica. For an MSRP of $33,500 you get a loaded touring edition with leather, first and second row heated seats, power liftgate, backup camera, moonroof, navigation - just about everything. Every year Chrysler offers these limited production build high value models. I would highly recommend that you find one in your area if your looking to buy.

Since I compared the two of them, the difference between the Spring Special model and the Signature model is that the Signature has the backup camera and navigation, while the spring special has the dvd player and sirius.
Since the Sig already has the DVD drive, for $250 on ebay you can buy the Dvd screen with all wiring and diagrams. I may end up doing that myself. The navigation system and backup camera are very nice.

The employee discount was achieved through a pin number that I got from my neighbor. He only gets two of them a year and gave me his other one.

Are you currently leasing a Chrysler vehicle? The incentives for those who are leasing now helped me to get the price I got.

If I was you I would shoot for invoice price.

Good luck.

maradag

Ok guys, here's what I was offered.

awd touring in white with the u package, and it has the crossbars, dvd, and parksense.

MSRP: 34795.00
Invoice: 32425.00

Its either:
$28,925 (incl. $3500 rebate)

-or-

$31,425 (incl. $1000 and 0%)

Thoughts??

I really thought that by this time dealers would be in "deal" mode considering the car's sales history as of late.

Thanks.
Mara

kkodal

i'd wait for a coule more days cause they should be coming out with sweet deals soon.they will try to get rid off all the 07's so if you can wait you may end up with a limited edition with all the options for the same price even lower.good luck..

mr_anton89

Incentives went down!

nancy61

Thanks to those of you that responded. After doing more research on the Pacifica AND talking with my mechanic, I decided against purchasing the vehicle. The reliability record (consumer reports) just threw me off a bit. I wishall Pacifica owners well with their vehicles and hope that the reliability record proves all wrong. Thanks!

jonas07

Car_man,

We leased a 2007 Pacifica Touring FWD. It has the powerlift gate, the sirius radio and dvd/rear screen. Total msrp was about 30,800. Adjusted cap cost $25,250. Money factor ,00144 and a residual of $11,250. Lease cost includes maintenance coverage. Lease is 39 months with monthly payments of $399. Did I get a great, good, fair or standard deal here?

Thanks
Jonas07

maradag

Hi everyone... I'm a bit reluctant about the Pacifica because of some of the posts I've read here but also the CR's New Car Prediction of "worse than average".

However, the discount/incentives on this car make it the one I can afford. So here's the deal:

AWD Pac. Touring - Brilliant Black
U package
Infinity Intermezzo Surround Sound System
Power Moonroof
Parksense Rear Back-Up System

MSRP of $34,500. Dealer offered $32,135 less rebates for total of $28,135.

Dealer's invoice on this car is around $31,079.00

Well, its actually better for us to go with the 0% financing Chrysler is offering so our price would revert back to $32,135 - $1000 for a total of $31,135.

I want to offer $31,500 OTD (all inclusive).

What do you think?? Is that fair (for dealer and us) or am I leaving too much on the table for this car, at this time of the year with all the competition its got out there??

Any thoughts/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Mara.

qbrozen

well, unfortunately, the rebates are real soft on these right now, and under the new ownership, its anyone's guess if they will go up or not.

In any case, I definitely think you should be at invoice minus the incentive. So that's $30,079. Even at $30k, I don't think you'll get $31,500 OTD. Although, you didn't say what your state taxes are. I know here in NJ, on a $30k car I'd be looking at $2100 tax, around $250 registration, figure $150 doc fees, for a total OTD of $32,600.

maradag

I'm in NY so I was figuring around the same fee numbers. But the thing is, this dealer has had this car since I started my search in the beginning of this year. I've got another dealer North of me who is offering almost $2k under invoice. That discount covers my taxes on the purchase if I offered her $32k.

New ownership or not, I am under the impression that these cars are just not selling well. Why wouldn't you want to get them off your lot?? I'm still puzzled about the sharp depreciation this thing suffers in the first year alone. (ah, geez, there I go filling myself with anxiety about the Pac's negatives).

Since I've got two dealers I'm working with, I'm going to submit the offer. If she doesn't like it, she'll tell me. I'll make a similar offer to the other dealer.

maradag

Another thing, what do you think about the extended powertrain warranty? Should I still buy a general extended warranty with that in place??

qbrozen

well, i don't really understand $2k under invoice before rebates. I mean, unless there are hidden incentives, that dealer would LOSE money on that car. There just isn't THAT much holdback.

Yes, depreciation is a killer, and honestly, as much as I like this vehicle, I couldn't reccomend anyone BUY it at the prices we are talking about here. We got ours for around $10k off sticker, and I know other folks have, too. But that's when rebates were in the neighborhood of $6k. Like I said, who knows if they will get that high again.

Have you thought about a used one?

And, no, unless it was very very cheap, i would not buy a warranty. You are covered on anything major with the powertrain warranty.

maradag

Its actually $1k under invoice and then she deducted the $1k since we felt it was better to take the 0% financing.

I have thought about the used ones. I rented one last summer and it seemed fine. I didn't notice much hesitation from the smaller engine but 2007 has the new engine so that's why I've been looking at it. Also, if I buy a used one than my interest rate jets up to about 7.5% (I guess is the used car rate nowadays). Plus, if reports for new Pacs aren't that great, I can only imagine what the reliability for a used one would be.