Chrysler Pacifica Prices Paid and Buying Experience

ccostable

Your right. My bad. Too many numbers going too fast I guess. In that case your paying on the order of 9% intereste for the lease and $7700 in finance charges. So much for the $7000 they knocked off the MSRP. Tell the dealer to try again.

dontbuyakia

Am I getting a good deal?
06 AWD Touring- fully loaded heated seats, DVd. Msrp 36115- selling price 27500. Lease 380/month 36 mos with Total out the door of 1950- only thing extra is plates (about 170ish). Looking to deal today or tomorrow.

ccostable

Making several assumptions I would say kind of. The selling price is great(it looks like you end up about $3000 below the price of the car if you paid invoice minus the $2500 rebate Edmunds is posting, and your $1950), but to make up for it the dealer is charging you a lot of interest on the lease (about $6200). If it was a normal time of year without all the employee pricing incentives, you could probably get a % or two above invoice and pay at least $1000 less in interest. However your monthly payment would be higher. So it is a good deal because your monthly payment is lower, but a bad deal because your paying a little over 9% in interest. Dealers are great at playing this game. Try to get them to lower the interest rate/money factor.

dontbuyakia

Thanks for your reply. The 1950 includes tax. first pmt and bank fee. With this updated info, how is the deal looking? Thanks.

eugened

I saw ad on chrysler web site
http://www.chrysler.com/dma/505/index.html?bid=1755215&pid=12187338&adid=4071731- 7&rid=17429828
where they advertise a lease for Pacifica for 159$ a month for 27 month with 1943 due at signing. My questions is: is it a good deal and really dealers will do it ot it just a trap to lure customers into dealership. If I do not pay anything
down, is it right to add just 70 - 75$ monthly (1950/27)?
What is a good lease deal currenly for Pacifica touring or Limited edition?

thanks

qbrozen

If I do not pay anything
down, is it right to add just 70 - 75$ monthly (1950/27)

with interest, it might be more like $100. tough to know exactly without looking at all the fine print.

sandyl

Got a new touring with the the 26P and supplemental airbags.
sticker 33,595. Ended up with 27587 out the door with 7% (ouch!) tax and adding in and a bumper hitch. negotiated about 8500 off MSRP. Dealer "claims" they are making no money on this deal.
I could have probably played the "pit this dealer against that dealer" and saved a just few more $$$, but this dealer had a car with options that I wanted.(except could give or take on the moonroof). Another dealer had the signature package, but that was 500$ more.

Love the car, still getting to know it.

tangning

How did you get 8500 off the MSRP? 33595 - 27587 = 8500?
Feel confused.

CarMan@Edmunds

Hi dontbuyakia. This vehicle's lease program varies depending upon how long you lease it for and how many miles per year you need to be able to drive it. For now I will assume that you are interested in a 36 month lease with 15,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different. Chrysler Financial's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a base 2006 Chrysler Pacifica AWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00023 and 41%, respectively. The numbers are different for the Touring and Limited models so let me know if you want one of those instead of the base model.

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sandyl

that was after TTT. Also they "tax" the cash back. so the tax is done before that is deducted. It was like 27000 minus the rebate , i.e. Before rebates got the car to 28,650
from 33595 (almost 5K) and then they added in Tag/title, then Tax (over 2K) and then deducted the 3500.

I know I got a good deal. I would have gotten a bit better deal if I was not "particular" about the pacifica I wanted. It had to have side impact air bags, and I only liked certain colors. I also prefered to get leather.

What really irks me is that they extended the employee pricing; if I had known that they were doing that Sat morning I would have also played the "wait game"

sandy

dontbuyakia

Thanks- did not know there were different numbers. I am looking at a touring AWD model. MSRP is 36115. Selling price is 27585 (almost 9000 off not bad). Lease is coming up at 386/mo with a total out of pocket of 1680 plus plates (about 170 here in NY) for a 36/month 12k lease. I have to make the deal today to get this price. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Car Man.

tangning

So $27xxx includes tax? I think that's a great deal! I love spring special edition also, but I am still waiting... hehe... Did you add any other options?

pete6

Since today is the last day of the Chrysler special rebates, I need help quick. The dealership is offering a 39 month lease for a touring FWD, loaded except for navigational and chrome wheels, it has everything. They quoted $29217 on 39 mth lease w/no money down for $435 month and residual of $12252. I'm not sure of money factor. How does this deal sound? Is residual too high?

pete6

I am looking at a lease on a 2006 Pacifica FWD Touring,loaded but no navigation system - quoted $29217 (includes $2500 plus $1000 re-lease option and $1000 loyalty rebate) lease 39 months at $435 with no money down and money factor at .00059, residual of $12252 - how does this deal sound? I really want lower per month payments but they say they can't do with money down - $1250 down will take my payments of $401/mth with same residual. I'm in Georgia. 15K miles per year If you could respond ASAP as I have to give them an answer today since last day of month and specials. Thanks.

qbrozen

What is the MSRP?

You shouldn't worry about the residual being too high on a lease. Too low would be the concern. But, as far as residuals are concerned, dealers usually can't change what is set by the finance company backing the lease.

dontbuyakia

pete6,
I posted the above post. I currently am trying to figure out if I am geting a good deal and it sounds a lot better than yours- 06 Touring AWD, loaded- MSRP 36115 and selling price of 27500. Lease is 386 with 1690 down- nothing else but plates. I am in NY but I can't see it being that much higher where you are.

pete6

The MSRP is $34,800. Thanks

pete6

The Pacifica I talked about before was sold so now I'm looking at another. It's a Limited MSRP $37210, Final price $30647 w/$500 down payments $417.63/mth 39 mths, 15K miles/yr-residual at 40% ($14884) MF 00090 - the final price includes the rebates offered $2500 + $1000 + $1000. What do you think - is it a deal?

qbrozen

At $37,210, that means the invoice is a bit over $33k. So I think your final price should be more like $28,600.

Are you sure about the $4500 in rebates? Carsdirect only lists $3500 and Edmunds has nothing right now.

oh, wait, found it on chrysler's site. Do you qualify for the lease loyalty rebate?

ccostable

Unless there is something hidden somewhere, that calculates out to a really good deal. What dealership is this from?

qbrozen

$2k over invoice is good???

ccostable

With all the rebates and incentives $30k is about $3k under invoice. I don't know of too many dealers that would give you the car for $28k and only charge about 2% in interest. Even with their kickback. I would have tried for another grand but I still think it is a good deal on a car that MSRPed for $37k.

sandyl

The residual is about what I saw when I questioned going to lease. With so little down, it does sound like a decent deal. Where in GA is this dealership (I am also in GA and just purchased one in morrow)

sandy

pete6

Yes - I have a Pacifica now on lease that expires in 2 months - they are actually using the $1000 to pay my last two payments.

pete6

Woodstock. I

pete6

I went to look at the car yesterday and forgot to mention they told me I didn't need to pay the $500 down. A weird thing though - this is a Limited and it doesn't have the video system in it - they will add the screen at no additional cost. Why would a Limited not have that already?

qbrozen

rebates and incentives come after the fact, so you need to calculate from invoice and THEN take the rebates into account.

So its $2k over invoice, THEN rebates taken off.

We got ours last year for employee pricing, minus all rebates, and with a ridiculously low interest rate. Rebates are there when a vehicle doesn't sell. So, yes, a dealer WILL give it to you for rock bottom price. Invoice minus rebates is what I would be looking for. Some folks would even go lower, frankly.

qbrozen

ok, so you are then actually paying $1k over invoice, since they are using $1k to pay off your current lease.

I'm not the least bit surprised they are throwing in the screen, in this case. They are still making decent money on the deal.

And I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all. Sounds like you are down to maybe $600-$700 over invoice at this point. That's not bad.

I don't know why a limited doesn't come with the rear video screen, but it doesn't. That's a la carte car building for ya.

soch

Have you ever imagined why Chrysler has been selling cars under invoice?

I think they bloat the price (MSRP) and then try to put a sort of "clearance" sale to lure the buyers.

Back in March we bought an AWD with 26 U package for around 2K below invoice.

I think the interior is so cheap. The carpet is so thin. It's already started loosing fiber. The driver seat has a major design flaw & are very uncomfortable. The power is less for the huge weight (Oddesey van beat the PAC in a grp trip). I am very disappointed.

We should have stuck to our original budget of 30-35K and bought an MDX or something else instead of getting lured to these sales.

The good part is that paying less than 29K for PAC makes it physcologically easier to sell it off in a year.

I am getting a feeling this is a high maintenance/easily degradable car and we would be better off selling it within an year.

qbrozen

Opinions are like .... I'll leave it at that.

Anyway, cheap interior is FAR from a Pacifica trait. Speaking of a Honda, we traded our Pilot for the Pac. The Pac is WAY more comfortable and FAR HIGHER quality interior. We were sold on the Pac specifically because it feels much more luxurious than the Pilot.

However, I will agree that the powertrain is not suited to the vehicle. As I've said many many times before, I don't want more HP from the vehicle, but a slightly smoother engine and a 5-speed tranny would help tremendously.

By the way, when does the high maintenance start? We've got 10k miles and have only paid for an oil change at this point. At least we won't have to pay to change the differential fluid every 15k miles like we did in the Pilot.

As far as price ... IIRC, ours was $26k and change for one with an MSRP over $34k.

soch

Ok, that's good to know that PAC won't require mechanical maintenance that often as a Pilot.

There are things which you see when you drive that makes you disheartended. For e.g. it would be foolish to replace the cheap carpet in our new PAC with a newer carpet. The sound quality is also not great like the high end cars. Most of the shiny surface is cheap plastic that can sratch easily. I am so afraid taking the PAC to a Car wash.

When we strarted looking at PAC we thought we were buying a high-end car at throw away prices. But we were mistaken. PAC can't compete with MDX or Lexus. I sat in my friend's Lexus. Man, it did feel luxurious.

$26K for $34K - qbrozen, proves my point. $6-7K is unheard in other high end cars.

qbrozen

heck, that should all be obvious. If you pay more for a Lexus, I sure hope you would get more, no doubt. No, the Pac can't compete with Lexus, nor does it try. An RX330 equipped like my PAC carries an MSRP near $44k, and that doesn't even have a 3rd row. (TMV is $4k below that, interestingly enough, which isn't a far cry from the $6k off you think these higher-end vehicles don't offer.) A comparable MDX is $42k msrp and $36,8 TMV .... hmmm... looks suspiciously close to $6k off to me.

Hmmm... shiny surfaces?? I don't think I have any of those in my Pac, other than the simulated wood trim. All the controls are matte black and the dash is a soft touch vinyl kinda thing ... I'm not sure where this easily scratched shiny stuff is you are referring to. Maybe in a lower model? I'm not sure. I don't recall seeing any of that on the base FWD one they gave me as a service loaner either, though.

Even at full MSRP, my PAC was priced more in line with the Pilot, honestly, than the MDX. MSRP for a Pilot with RES is $33,995, which is right near what the MSRP on our PAC was. Yet, in the Pac, we get heated seats in the 2nd row, memory seating in the front, power adjustable pedals, power liftgate, and probably other things I'm not even considering. Oh, by the way, the Pilot is going for $5k off sticker, as well.

Seems to me you are comparing the PAC in the wrong group of SUVs.

b25nut

"PAC can't compete with MDX or Lexus". That statement can't be farther from the truth! My wife has an '06 RX-330. The Lexus has three features that I would rate better than the Pacifica: 1) The leather has stitching, which gives it a more luxurious look; 2) It has a back-up camera; 3)the transmission gives smoother, but not faster, acceleration. The Pacifica beats it on just about everything else: Far superior ergonomics, a much easier to use naviagation system, much better brakes, lower CG for better handling. Electronic options on the Lexus have to be set by the dealer, you can't change them yourself if you change your mind. The Lexus does not have behind the steering wheel audio controls, the tires are good for only 30,000 miles, it requires 92 grade gas (which just about negates it's mpg advantage). The RX-330's oil filter is hidden by a cover plate that is not mentioned in the Owner's Manual, which has minimal information since the factory wants all work done by the dealer. I could go on and on.
I also had a bad first impression of the Pacifica's thin carpet but it has proven to be very durable, along with the entire interior. With 54,000 miles on it, my Pacifica looks almost brand new, inside and out. Soch, you must not have your driver's seat adjusted correctly. Mine is the most comfortable that I have ever driven, with my body having no aches or pains after hours on the road.

qbrozen

Its nice to get a comparison from an owner of both.

Makes the extra money for the Lexus seem wasted after all.

soch

If someone can help me with the seat adjustment, I would be willing to overlook other problems in PAC.

Again, the seat is not upright enough for me. In some cars, the back of the seat can almost become verticle (which is not what I want).

I wish I could raise the seat as much as possible & still keep the back close to verticle. The back just stops at an angle. I will try to measure the angle and do a comparision angle with my Impala & post it here.

qbrozen

That's odd. Sounds like maybe something is wrong with it??

I know my wife sits very upright in it.

b25nut

Soch, do you have the 10-way or 8-way adjustment option? With those, the whole seat can be tilted forward along with the tilt adjustment for just the seatback.

qbrozen

interesting. What exactly is missing on the 8-way? I would have assumed it eliminated the power lumbar. Are you saying it removes one of the tilt features?

b25nut

The 8-way has all the tilt features. It just doesn't have the lumbar, which Chrysler counts as two functions (in and out). I'm thinking that you may have the tilt of the entire seat set too far back so that even when the tilt of the seat back is all the way forward, it may still have a rearward slant.

vth0k1efan

with exterior color of Stone White, and an interior color of Light Taupe, and with the following options: UConnect ($275); Full Size Spare Tire ($195); Tire Pressure Monitor and Warning Signal ($70); and, Navigation System with GPS ($1,695).

I have attempted to use the search inventory function on www.chrysler.com, but wtih very little success.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provicde!

pete6

I have been searching for a white pacifica in GA and have been unable to find a touring pkg anywhere - think it must be the most popular color.

sandyl

But it also has lots of other options as well. moonroof
T package, side airbags. They seem to have the most pacificas in stock.

I got my spring edition one there (gold) , but not with navi or uconnect. It was the last spring edition they had.

Sandy

lamronh49

I found a new 2005 base, MSRP is $25,345, sales guy says inv. is $23,845 (I think it's $23,345)he's offering $4,000 off that and $2000 more for my trade than KBB or a local dealer will give me. Is a soon-to-be two-year-old Pacifica worth this? Thanks for any opinions.

iibbmm

We picked up an 06 Limited yesterday. Nothing on top of the standard Limited stuff like 19" wheels, suede, dvd, mroof, heated seats, etc.

My Out the door price was $29,000 after 7.75% tax, title, and license. I got the extended 70k warranty and 3 yrs of maintanence (I never buy those) for another $1700. My total out the door was $30,700. MSRP on the car alone was $35,740. Factoring in Tax, Title, License, and the warranty junk, I saved about $10,000 over MSRP.

Did I do okay?

lamronh49

Sounds good, iibbmm, where did you buy? I'm out in the northwest.
How much were the incentives worth?
I'd love to pick up the 05 I found...they had a 7/70 powertrain that year.

iibbmm

The 7/70 would be nice. My extended warranty is a 5/70 (total). The nice thing is that it covers everything, not just powertrain. I had a 300M that wasn't the most well put together thing.

I bought in Orange County, CA.

I got $3500 in rebates, financed through Chrysler (3 payments until I can refinance with my credit union). I paid $1700 for the warranty and free maintenance, I think it was worth it, and it basically makes up for the cheaper price I paid :P

neumie2000

2006 Touring AWD
MSRP $36,875 (Spring Special Package)
Purchase price is $29,249
27 month lease
$300/month, including tax
$2000 cap cost reduction plus first months payment
money factor .000010 (I think that's right)
Residual $19,175

Anybody have any opinions??? This is the best offer I've been able to work so far. Thanks in advance.

CarMan@Edmunds

No problem, dontbuyakia. Chrysler Financial's current 36 month, 15,000 mile per year lease money factor and residual value for the 2006 Chrysler Pacifica Touring AWD are .00034 and 41%, respectively. In addition to this special lease program, DaimlerChrysler is providing a $1,000 bonus on leases of this car through Chrysler Financial and the ability to purchase it through its Employee Purchase Program. Don't worry about the old "have to make the deal today" line. This usually isn't anything more than a way for dealers to attempt to create a false sense of urgency in consumers. DaimlerChrysler's Employee Pricing Plus program is scheduled to run through the end of the month.

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outovtuch

Looks like an amazing deal for that price, but you must look at the fine print. Chrysler is offering a base Pacifica for $129 a month with $1725 down (not including tax, title and registration) for 27 months. With this lease you're allowed 10,500 miles a year. Here is the fine print at the bottom. $425 lease turn in fee--50 cents a mile penalty over mileage--5% MSRP restocking fee--

See how misleading the down looks. You need to cough up 2 more thousand when you return the car between the resocking fee and the lease turn in fee. Throw another $300 for registration and your down is at 4 K.

Despite all this it's still a good lease for a base model which probably has an MSRP of 28 K. It's the equivalent of paying $276 a month with nothing down.

On a side note, since the lease is 27 months--are you entitled to a refund from the DMV for the remainder of the months. If I'll only be using 3 months why must I pay 12. This is one of the main reasons I don't like leases that aren't in 12 month spans. I live in CA so I'm not sure what the rules are. My Crossfire lease is 39 months. That will be a waste of money to pay for 12 months of registration yet only have the car 3 months.

arrie

Just bought '06 Signature Series Touring program car (dealer's wife's use) with 4600 miles. Sales price $29000 (MSRP $35215), rebates $3500. Traded in '01 Pontiac Grand Am with 62500 miles for $4500. Cash needed $21 000.

26 W Package.

Very nice Car! Engine much stronger than 2004 when I test drove one and found it very weak. Went to get a Tahoe LT instead. Pacifica's engine has some kick now.

--Arrie--