Chrysler Pacifica Prices Paid and Buying Experience

mojoe

before you buy any car .
1. ask to see what it cost the dealer first and to show this to you on paper. Not just telling you. You can save without the employees discount.
Say the car is $32,000.00-you can get that car for $26,000.00 without the employee discount. So don't rush into anything . Do your home work first.
Go to 3 dealers and see what prices you get from them.

the savings are at least $6,000.00 no employee discount
Good luck : :shades:

cgonzalez1

When leasing can I use my business credit instead of my personal credit?

CarMan@Edmunds

Hi cgonzalez1. I suspect that you would be able to lease a vehicle through your business, but you need to check with the F&I people at the dealership that you plan on getting your Pacifica from to find out Chrysler Financial's exact policy on this matter.

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wesley1der

My lease will be up in about 3 months. The buy out is about 3 thousand more than what the 04s are selling for on the used car lots. It's leased thru Chrysler. Anyone know if Chrysler deals on the buyouts & if so how would you contact?

CarMan@Edmunds

Hi wesley1der. While there is no guarantee that the bank that you are leasing your Pacifica will negotiate its lease-end purchase price, more often than not they won't, you don't have anything to lose by trying to get them to. Place a call directly to Chrysler Financial a month or two before the scheduled end of your lease and ask if they would be willing to work with you on your vehicle's purchase price. If your initial contact there is not willing to do anything for you you may get better results by working your way up the ladder to a manager. During your negotiations, make sure to give them the impression that you are right at your mileage limit. If you are way under your vehicle is more desirable for them to take back and if you are over they may want you excess mileage penalty. Again there is no guarantee that Chrysler Financial will lower your vehicle's purchase price, but its worth a shot.

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woobegone

My son is considering a used, low-mileage Pacifica, 04 or 05. Is there much advantage to AWD version over the FWD version? They live in Utah and will move to Colo. Springs soon so winter driving is a consideration. All other things being equal, how much of a price difference should he expect between AWD and FWD?

hjm

I'm looking for the same feedback on fwd vs awd. I am in Upstate NY, lots of snow ice in winter . I drive approx 800 miles a week, mostly highway. I have a Ford Escape (AWD) company car that is wrecking my back/shoulder/neck. Have option to switch to Pacifica , but...No AWD option only FWD. I hear the PAC is about 1000 lbs heavier than Escape and has good all weaher tires...anyone have experienced with winter driving and FWD model?...would you recommend snow tires? Gimme all the pros and cons, maybe I have missed some considerations.

rodut

Ours is a FWD and we live in Canada. It drives perfectly on snow (the FWD has traction control, the AWD doesn't).

The key is the gas consumption and the reliability.

The posted gas consumptions are about the same (FWD and AWD), but in reality the FWD gets what the book says, but often AWD owners reported gas consumption a lot worse, especially in winter, when the AWD system works with cold (thick) oil inside. The laboratory tests were probably done with the cars heated. Our FWD Pac gets over 20mpg in mixed real life driving, and on highway it can reach 25mpg on constant low speed (80Km/h = 50miles/h).

Reliability wise, the AWD is a complicated system, definitely lots of things will go wrong as the car ages, and the most reliable AWD system is the one you don't have at all. If it's not there, it can't break. So FWD is the wise way to go.

Also the FWD feels faster than the AWD, because all that friction is eliminated, so more of the engine power reach the wheels, instead of being converted in heat and lost ! The Pacifica is not exactly a rocket, so that extra power reaching the wheels could be useful.

hjm

Thanks for the inof and reassurance about the FWD...I did not realize that it has traction control (and the AWD does not). I think I will make the switch to the Pacifica and give the Escape back!

pscdoc

The only reason the AWD version doesnt have traction control is because it doesnt need it, it is an AWD! and the reason the lower end model pacs have the traction control is because it doesnt have an AWD system. Traction control and AWD system are not the same but they basically do the same thing, which is making sure the wheels do not slip and slide when needed for traction. You can look at it this way. An AWD system has all the abilities of a traction control system and more but not the other way around. IMO, if you do live in harsh winter weather climates then it is much safer to go with an AWD vehicle.

newcarihope

here is the deal I am contumplating.... 05 touring AWD 26u package (leather, power lift, moon roof, and nav) consumer reports dealer invoice 29205.00, dealer offered it to me for 29500.00. I don't know if I can do better or not? I hate the fact that buying a car is so hard. :confuse:

rodut

What is so complicated ? Paying $295 profit to the dealer ?! Man ... he probably has kids to feed. I think you make it complicated, because it looks to me that he tries to make it easy for you.

For the record I am not a dealer and I hate that in Canada we don't have access to dealer invoices. That would make things really easy. Also I hate Chrysler because they sell the Pacifica a lot cheaper in US, than here in Ontario/Canada where it's made. It's a shame.

You want it for free, or what ??

newcarihope

I have had to do hours of research before even contacting a dealer. He first tried to sell it to me for 32000.00 then when I said showed him the dealer invoice from consumer reports and he figured out I knew what I was talking about and only then did he bring down the price. Dealers make money even if they sell below invoice. Manufacturers give all sorts of incentives that are not passed on to the consumer. So yes it is complicated and no matter what you feel like you are getting the shaft (IMHO)

si88

I know that this is probably a dumb idea so I thought I'd post it here to see who might give a reply. I just purchased a 2006 Pacifica FWD with heated leather and the 6 disc CD/DVD player as the only options. We couldn't find one in town with the few options we wanted (side air bags, auto hatchback, rear park sensor) that was not fully loaded and priced out of our range. So its been bugging me ever since I did all this research but couldn't find the car we wanted and had to settle on this one.

So now I find a used 2005 AWD that has all the above desired options with just under 30K miles on e-bay thats 500 miles away. My dumb idea is to offer a trade for the used pacifica for my brand new 2006!?! I know I am probably an idiot for thinking about this but I am not very happy with the base model we purchased. Plus I know I'll probably take a bath by losing out the on the warranty and the residual value, but I really want those options.

Can someone please talk some logic to me? :confuse:

wlm1

It's an unusual thought, but I don't think it's dumb. If the car you want is a year old . . . so what. It's basically the same car, just one year more mature and you're getting what you wanted in the first place.

I'm in a similar boat. I'm trading a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5K miles on it for a 2005 Pacifica with 16K on it. The Jeep is so uncomfortable I just can't drive it any more.

jeep1988

We have a Pacifica and a Subaru Forester. Both are great cars they we love dearly. Our Pacifica ride qulaity is up to par with any Toyota or Lexus that I drove; very quiet and smooth. Granite, it is not a Lexus, but the suspension is very smooth. We drove it Florida this past summer and loved the ride.

You know when you drive long distances in some vehicles, you seem to get fatigued, we never got this with the Pacifica. Gas milage is pleasently good for a vehicle this size. We get actual 19 mpg in a stop an go city driving, and got actual 27 mpg on I-75 going to Florida.

With some feature from Mercedes-Benz, the interior has a European style to it and ride quality is difficult to beat. The versitility of the Pacifica is great as well, with the back folded down, it has tons of cargo room. The second row seats, can adjust forwrd or backward, giving great leg room.

Some minor drawbacks, some blind spots, making backing up a little more difficult. You have to take a little more time, instead of whipping it in to a spot.

I would highly recommend the Chrystler Pacifica for a family car, but it is a bee-bopping car, like our Forester either. It all depends what your looking for. The Pacifica, also comes in optional AWD, which, I feel, if youe getting one, to get with it.

bjbird2

Unless you live in the snow-belt, I don't agree that AWD is necessarily better. It costs more, it is much more complex, which usually translates into more problems, it weighs more so your gas mileage and acceleration are not as good as 2WD. Read some of the posts in "Chrysler Pacifica Owners: Problems & Solutions".
Just my opinion...

llubit

Just purchased a new 2006 Pacifica AWD. Debating to purchase extended warranty? Does anyone have any insight and cost. The warranty is $1,800 for three additional years with oil changes and all scheduled maintenance included.

Thanks

fljoslin

My wife purchased a new 2005 Pacifica in Sept of 2004. Touring AWD with leather. No heated seats, moonroof, side air bags etc. It is coming up on 9000 miles and its third oil change with no problems. We paid just under $26K for it with an MSRP of 31.5K. I dont like it much, but my wife does. Not big enough in my opinion, but it is smooth and powerful. It came with the 7/70 power trane warranty so I dont think we will be getting an extended warranty. I have a 1999 Intrepid purchased new which I have had very few problems with. Hopefully the Pacifica is even better for reliability.

steelydan0613

Living in Houston, Tx. I don't agree that the AWD is worth it. In the Pacifica's case, the extra 150 lbs weight should make any potential owner pause, unless the winters demand it.....

I agree with all of your other comments, though............

coty3

we are a family of 5. we've driven the ford expedition for the past 10 years. we are looking for a change.an suv that's not so big, but can fit 6-7 passengers. we are trying to decide between a ford explorer or the chrysler pacifica touring. any opinions out there? we'd like to stay between $30 and $32,000. we do want dvd, leather, power. the acura mdx is too expensive and the volkswagon toureq doesn't seem to have the dvd.

b25nut

There are only two advantages that I can think of that the Explorer would have over the Pacifica: If you get the standard second row seats in the Explorer, no one would have to sit in the third row if all five members of your family are in the car, which gives you more cargo space. The Explorer also give you the option for seven people, which you don't have with the Pacifica.
Personally, I would much prefer to sit in the third row than in the center of a bench seat. I also think kids are much happier on long trips having their own individual seats. They all have their own air. The ride quality and quietness of the Pacifica are far superior. I'm prejudice, but I feel everything else on the Pacifica is superior, especially its looks, ergonomics and ease of entry and exit. Do you want to blend in or stand out?

fljoslin

What about part time four wheel drive. Why is everything new AWD. I am less concerned about the added weight than about the frictional drag of running the four wheel drive system all of the time. I could be wrong on this, but I do not believe that you can buy a small SUV which is part time four wheel drive, other than maybe the 4runner. Even many of the full size SUVs are going to AWD and then you really pay at the pump. I have a 4x4 Suburban which I have put just over 50,000 miles on. I might have had it in four wheel drive for 100-200 of those miles and that was over four winters in KS and eastern WA.

coty3

thank you for your honest answer. you have helped me make my decision. believe ir ot not , it was your final sentence that sealed my decision...Do you want to blend in or stand out?
i'm tired of blending in, i want to stand out!!

lauriecann

I'd first like to thank each of you for your comments. You've been very helpful in my decision to purchase a 2006 Pacifica. Here's my buying experience:

I'm purchasing a 2006 Butane Blue Touring FWD. It's equipped with the following:

1. Rear DVD
2. Moonroof
3. "T" package
4. Traction Control
5. Heated Leather Seats
6. Side airbags

My overall price is 29,650. This price includes taxes and tags. I am a graduate student and was able to get the car at 1% below invoice. This price is also with the $3500 rebate. I'm hoping that I got a good deal! I can't wait to get my car. They're saying that it should be here on the 21st, but I'm not confident since the dealer is saying that they're not certain that it will be there on that day.

Again, thanks for all of your comments. I feel pretty confident in my decision.

fdubois

I'm looking at a nice 2004 model at the local dealer (Delivered in Sept 03). Its a FWD model, 3rd row seats and only 29K miles. Carfax reports looks good, nothing but minor stuff thats gone wrong, one owner. Dealer will extend bumper to bumper warranty to 39K. Price was just reduced to 16995 from 20995. Its been on the dealer lot since August so they want it gone. What do you all think - I really like the car but worry about the reliability stuff that I see coming up on the boards - wife needs a new car and I'd like something a little nicer than minivan route. I like to do my own work and hate getting away from the V-6 Nissan engine in the Villager and Quests. Sure wish the rear window opened so that I can haul the occaissional piece of lumber and I would prefer bench seats in the middle. Anyways, what do you all think - any tips on initial offer price? I was thinking of offering 16K and going from there (too high?) thanks, Frank

weman27

I am considering a '05 touring w/ moonroof, DVD, 4 heated leather seats and chrome wheels, or a '05 limited with basically the same options but with Nav. as well. The touring is a demo but never titled and has 2K miles on it, is the limited w/ no miles worth the $4-5K differencein price? :confuse:

b25nut

The Limited would give you the true Pacifica experience since a lot of the options are standard, like power liftgate and tire pressure monitoring, but you would also be paying for AWD. I have found this to be a good thing, but you may not. The Nav system may seem most of the time to be an unnecessary luxury, but when you get in a situation where it saves the day, you'll be glad you paid the extra for it.

bjbird2

All the options are just more things that can cause problems later. A base 2WD model will be less prone to all the problems you can read about on these Pacifica forums. It will also have better acceleration and gas mileage without the extra weight from AWD and the other options.

b25nut

In over 44,000 miles, I have had zero problems with any of the options on my Pacifca. When I bought mine, items that are now options were standard. Except for the AWD, the weight of options are insignificant. My AWD averages 18.4 mpg. Sure, 2WD would get a little better mileage, but there hasn't been any problems related to AWD, and I just feel you would be happier with the Limited. I may be wrong, but I think those of us who paid more for our Pacifcas are having fewer problems and enjoy the car more.

bjbird2

I've been through some snowy winters, and never needed AWD, never been stuck with my 2WD. I think if you have good ground clearance, FWD will get you out of all but the most extreme conditions, which rarely occur. I'd rather save the money and not have the complications of AWD for the few times it may be needed, which in my case has been never.

rodut

I agree with bjbird2. Also it's very nice that the new base FWD (2006) has the 3.5 liter engine !!! So the old two valve per cylinder 3.8 liter engine is no more on Pacificas.

Also it's still available without that crappy Stability Control System, which becomes standard on more and more vehicles. Very nice car (sorry ... SUV ... )

lauriecann

Hello all,

I recently purchased a 2006 Pacifica, which I love, but I signed up for the miles of freedom plan. They really seem to be giving me the runaround about receiving my debit card worth 2 years of free gas. Have any of you had this problem and if so, how did you resolve it? Chrysler said that they requested my card on November 22nd and JP Morgan Chase says that they don't have any information on me. Chrysler even said that they expedited it. I'm starting to get a little frustrated. Thanks for any help you can give.

P.S. They told me that I should have received it in 15 days and now I'm on day 25.

pe72pe

I just leased a 2006 PAC limited AWD with nav, dvd, sirius sat, uconnected, laminated glass, etc. It is loaded. Price I negotiated was $34,443. I decided to lease it with absolutely nothing down for 27 months, 12,000 miles. Rolled in first month payment into the lease and they charged me a $700 bank/aquisition fee and I have a $300 exit fee. My payment is $522.00. Residual on it is about $24,458. I like the deal any thoughts?? If I lease the car and pay cash for it at the end of 27 moths it costs me about $38,500 (14094+24458). If I finance it from day one @ 6.39% (best chrysler financing I could get with maximum rebates)for 27 months and pay cash at that point it costs me $41,013 (19,363+21,650)and I get the flexibilty to return it and most importantly not a penny out of my appreciating investments to put down. Any thoughts?? thanks.

lmrd

I have leased many cars since 1969 & find that they are only a "good deal" when you drive a min. of 25,00 miles per year or more. The 12,000 mile lease is like a trap to get you to buy the car at the end of the lease. If your credit is good then you should be able to get a lot lower rate than 6.9%. I bought my '05 Pacifica Signature Touring model for zero down & zero% for 48 months thru Chrysler. After you buy the car at the end of the lease you will have to keep it another 3 to 4 years to come out even as the value starts to go down fast after 36 months. In my case, the value of the Pacifica will be greater than I owe after 35 to 38 months which will be the time for me to trade it in for a new one. My average yearly milage is now between 13-15K so it will have less than 48K when I trade & that is considered a plus.

bowgy4

I just picked up a 2005 Touring FWD with Leather, surround sound, 6 CD/DVD in-dash changer, fog lights, traction control, side-curtain airbags, power liftgate, cargo convenience group, and wrapped in beautiful midnight blue. We paid 21,700, before tax plus had a $1200 trade-in (couldn't have got that myself). We put down $5000 and received 5.99% financing. We also looked at a 2004 with the same mileage but more features for roughly the same price, but when it came down to it, the other car was white and my wife never wanted a white car - I wasn't too keen on keeping it clean either. So, how do you think we fared? Let me know what you think. This is a central illinois dealer, so I imagine we may have gotten a slightly better deal. It has the 7 year/70,000 powertrain warranty and 1 1/2 years left on the 3/36,000. I think it's a great deal, as I talked them down from 24,995, first offer, 22,800 second offer, 22,300 third offer, 21,700 was the price I named. I could sense the frustration in the sales manager's voice, so that is usually a good sign. Only drawback I could find is that it was a rental for 8 months.

bowgy4

Well, easy come, easy go. I returned the 2005 because it was hitting hard occaisionally when shifting gears. The best part is though that I drove 3 hours to Royal Gate Dodge near St. Louis and picked up an even better deal and car - a 2004 AWD Pacifica with heated seats, memory, sunroof, and chrome wheels. This was a Chrysler Certified Pre-Owned (meaning an 8/80,000 powertrain warranty) and I got it for 19,900 plus $1200 for my trade-in. Could have gotten it cheaper if I had more time, but I think it is still a great deal and I love this car twice as much. We also noticed some marks on the '05 the next day (we bought the car at night) but the '04 is 100% spotless. The interior even looked like showroom new (no marks or scratches anywhere that I could find). I'm excited and hope that the next to person to buy and post here is excited too!

andy2812

Car_man,

Can you please provide me with the money factor and residual for a 2006 Pacifica Touring, with AWD. The car also has the signiture package which includes NAV.

Thanks for your help!
Andy

CarMan@Edmunds

Hi Andy. You never mentioned how long you want to lease this vehicle for or how many miles per year you need to be able to drive it. For now, I will assume that you are interested in a 36 month lease with 15,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different. If you were to lease a base 2006 Chrysler Pacifica Touring AWD through Chrysler Financial right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00054 and 45%, respectively. If you decide to upgrade to the '06 Pacifica Touring AWD with Quick Order Pkg 26U (this has a lot of upgraded and additional options) the numbers for an otherwise identical lease would change to .00093 and 45%. When negotiating your lease on this vehicle, remember that Chrysler Financial is providing $3,000 lease cash and $1,000 bonus cash ($4,000 total) on it this month. This money will help you to negotiate an attractive capitalized cost.

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freedomrings

I am new to leasing. (WOW, alot to learn) I am looking at a Chrysler Pacifica Touring, MSRP Apx 29,000. I was told that If I can get a EC number, I will get the $3,000.00 off. THe Basic current deal: $2,220.00 down plus tax,title transfer, payments would be 235.00 a month for 27 months at 15,000.00. This sounds pretty good, but I have no way of knowing. Am I suppossed to negotiate the selling price of the car and then get the payment. This is the basic twist on what is being advertised on TV.
Help and thanks!!!!!!!!!!
Metro Detroit Area

zepeter

Hi Car_Man,
I am looking into leasing a 2006 Chrysler Pacifica, Base Model AWD. Can you tell me what residual percentage and lease money factor I can expect for a 36 month lease with 12K miles/ year. Also, can you tell me how to calculate the tax requirement for NY state on this vehicle.

Thank You,
Zep

05rubisahara

I am strongly considering a new leftover 2005 Pacifica Limited if I can find one in desirable colors with nav and rear DVD. I know a 2006 Limited with same equipment will list for $41,300. I believe Chrysler is currently offering $3000 rebate if financed through them.

Anyone know where a 2005 leftover should be priced bearing in mind the deals offered on the 2006's? I was hoping somewhere in the low $30's.

pe72pe

I picked up a 2006 PAC limited totally loaded for $34,443 (MSRP was about $42,180 or so). If you can find a 2005 it should be considerably less. Good luck.

CarMan@Edmunds

Hi freedomrings. Did you have a good time watching the Super Bowl last week? I'm sure that it must have been crazy in Detroit . Since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.

In answer to your specific question, yes you absolutely should negotiate the selling price of the vehicle that you are interested in before discussing payments with dealers.

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CarMan@Edmunds

I'd be happy to help you out, Zep. According to the latest information that I have seen, if you were to lease a 2006 Chrysler Pacifica Base AWD through Chrysler Financial right now for 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00049 and 45%, respectively. When negotiating this deal, keep in mind that DaimlerChrysler is currently providing $4,000 lease cash on it. Not to mention the fact that DCX is kicking back dealers $1,000 dealer cash on most vehicles that they sell this month. These cash incentives should help you to negotiate a very attractive capitalized cost for your lease.

I am not personally all that familiar with how sales tax is calculated on leased vehicles in your state, but you may be able to find out more information on the subject by visiting the following sites: New York State Department of Motor Vehicles Internet Office or New York State Department of Taxation and Finance.

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05rubisahara

pe72pe,

Thanks for the reply. Sounds like you made a super deal. I would jump on a 2006 Limited for that price. Do you mind divulging the dealership or location? I am in Maryland and most of the dealers are lame on stocking the Limited. Nav, rear DVD and U-connect are a must.

Thanks,

Harlan

pe72pe

No problem.

Knopf Motors
219 E BUTLER AVE
AMBLER, PA 19002-4481

Also I found Chrysler's website to be fantastic tool in searching for specific dealer inventory. They are all willing to negotiate over the phone. You can also see what incentives Chrysler is offering. Currently $3000 on purchase or $4000 if you've leased with before.

Good luck!

tristan1

I got an 04 touring AWD w/ 16k, all option except 19" wheels & uconnect for 25K. I'm not sure what part of Md. you're from but you might wanna check ---

Passport Chrysler
5990 Duke Street
Alexandria, VA 22304

Have you tried looking at carmax?

eyespy

I am seriously considering leasing a Pacifica Touring AWD with Quick Package 26U and a few smaller bells and whistles like Bluetooth capability and cargo convenience group. Is anyone seeing any good deals out there?

Also, my local dealer showed me a fully loaded Limited demo with 5,400 miles on it. How do I calculate/determine the appropriate amount to discount the mileage/depreciation if I were to consider leasing this car instead?

Thanks.

bigblockvette

I purchased a new 2005 Pacifica Touring S package for $18,946.usf out the door (including tax, plates, title) with chrysler employee pricing (sticker 28,895.usf + tax). I purchased at Suburban Chrysler Jeep in Novi from Hank Web. Great Guy. All worked out good, but keep your guard up with the finance manager. He is out to make money. Told me finance would be 7.9 interest for 60 months, ended up with 5.9% finance through Chase. I feel good about the deal. Comments please.

Dwayne