Chrysler 300/300C

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  • karlakarla Member Posts: 11
    I also have a 99 300M & have had no problem with the O/S temperature or seat moving on exit feature. I've read the manual & have had it to the dealer twice for it and it still has a problem. They are contacting Chrysler about it.
  • karlakarla Member Posts: 11
    I currently own a 300C & a 300M. I didn't need the Hemi either but alot of the options I liked & was used to from my M were not available on the limited or touring models. The only differences in the outside looks are the Hemi Badge, Chrome mirrors, handles & etc. and the wheels. I liked the interior & exterior trims better on the 300C better also.
  • bigmike5bigmike5 Member Posts: 960
    Car mags had the same problem with the 300M when it came out [99 Car of the Year] and even the after years. Where do you cubby hole it?, and against what other cars can you compare it? Big sedan? Sports sedan? Family sedan? etc. Don't think they ever really agreed on where it fit. Probably the same with the 300C. Too fast for a family sedan label, too big and heavy for a sports sedan label, too gangsta looking for..., muscle car...etc. It would probably end up as the M/T Car of the Year if they could figure out a way to make it run on hay so the tree huggers at that rag who recently picked the 2nd iteration of the Prius this year are happy. As for fuel economy, the Prius isn't getting what was advertised for mileage per gallon [somewhere around 42 mpg, but can that make up for driving one IMHO ugly slug? ], the 300C I haven't heard from too many owners reporting on what they are getting after break-in, but my new Vette, out the showroom door, did 28.8 mpg with none of her 8 cyclinders disabled. And of course the looks of the 300 are in the "love it or hate it" category, same with the CTS and soon to be appearing STS. Bottom line, we all buy what we buy for different reasons. If it turns you on, or fits your needs--family transport, etc, and you have the $$, go for whatever you like. Got the end of model year Vette for about the same amount as a loaded 300C. Because of its nature it lacks some of the bells and whistles [and maybe potential electrical glitches..]that the C has, but for me the choice was easy because I did not like Dieter's design on the 300 [looked to me like an old MB sedan design from the 70's] and I didn't like the coming design on the C6. I solved the daily driver/space problem by keeping my 300M, at least for now. The best of both worlds. Space when I want it and speed when I need it. Happiness is never having to 2nd off a light.
  • sls002sls002 Member Posts: 2,788
    I don't think the 300C is comparable to the CTS/3-series because it is a much larger car. But, the STS/5-series/E-class are comparable size car. Acceleration wise, the new STS is slower from the tests that I have seen. From what I have seen posted here for actual fuel consumption on the highway, the 300C seems a bit thirsty getting under 25 MPG for most of you who have reported. My SLS, on a couple of short highway trips, gets over 30 running on all 8.
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    The 300C is nothing more then a big full sized RWD V8 powered sedan. Not unlike the 94-96 Impala's, or the Crown Vic's. It has a bit more luxury, & bit more power. And it's cheap enough. So to be able to compare it to the "other cars" out there is just impossiable, based on class, or price alone.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,582
    Both are trendy, love 'em or hate 'em cars. The 300C is definitely the better performer but the interior seems to be the sacrifice and I wonder how well it will wear. The CTS at least so far seems to be the winner mechanically.
  • stephenstephen Member Posts: 131
    For anyone out there contemplating larger wheels for their 300C, check out this article:

    http://www.globemegawheels.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20- 040722/WHINSIDE22/cars/
  • mnmatchesmnmatches Member Posts: 111
    Mr, Law obviously has some issues with "bling".

    "For the consumer, there is virtually no way to tell what an aftermarket set of wheels and tires will do to their vehicle's ride and handling, except to say it will almost certainly compromise them."

    This IMO is a strong statement of inaccuracy. I'm betting (with no reasonable facts) that I could equip a 300c with a wheel package that would easily outperform the OE as long as they were real close to the stock dimensions. His statement does have some merit if you consider rims over 20" (depending on the vehicle).

    I guess his generalization that all cars with non OE wheel packages are evil just set me off....
  • bigmike5bigmike5 Member Posts: 960
    How about the predicted price for the AWD that is coming noted at the end of that article. $45K!! Unless that is Canadian dollars then someone at DC has cornered the market on gouging. I shudder to think what they will want for the SRT-8. Got to be 50 large after the price of the Crossfire SRT-6.
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    That's Canadian.

    US is supposed to be around starting at $28k from Touring...
  • tornado25tornado25 Member Posts: 267
    "Acceleration wise, the new STS is slower from the tests that I have seen."

    Really? Wow, if I had the ability to be in that market, that would certainly give me pause, I think. I mean, yes, it will of course be full of Cadillac's latest electronics and features (which, I, in fact, love) but put up against 300C that goes 0-60 faster, hmmm.
  • sls002sls002 Member Posts: 2,788
    The magazines are getting 0-60 times of 5.9-6.0 seconds for the STS with V8 and 3.42:1 axle ratio. Price is over $60,000 and is out of my price range. My SLS was an end of the model year special that they wanted to sell before the incentives evaporated.
  • emaleemale Member Posts: 1,380
    what do you mean if it were to exist...it does exist...but just for european markets at this time...
  • 307web307web Member Posts: 1,033
    It will probably stay that way too unless they want to kill the already weak-selling Pacifica.
  • yositoyosito Member Posts: 55
    The simple truth ! Nice post very, very honest, it was a complete pleasure reading your post.
     Thanks for such true and honest words.
  • heinzh2heinzh2 Member Posts: 49
    "Weak-Selling Pacifica"? They are flying off the lots here in GA ... hell my wife just bought one! It is one nice ride too with a good blend of luxury, sport & van ride. In either case, the 300C Wagon couldn't replace that kind of vehicle ... but rather compliment it. But with the latest news out about a Magnum sedan coming out as a 2006 model, then I have my hopes high for the wagon to be sold here in the states as well.
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Isn't that "Magnum" sedan version was rumored to be the next Charger?
  • yachteryachter Member Posts: 1
    Hello 300C enthusiasts. I have been one now for 10 weeks, and still waiting for the actual car to show up. What are people seeing for delivery schedules these days? I was told 8 weeks, but as of today, it has a status code of "D", which it has had for two weeks.

    For background, I ordered magnesium, sunroof and most of the goodies, except side air bags and electric pedals.
  • tornado25tornado25 Member Posts: 267
    Bigelm, yeah, everything I've read has indicated that what amounts to the Intrepid replacement will carry the Charger name and be released in Q1 '05. Not sure how much resemblence it will bear to the Magnum, in terms of overall looks.
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
  • bjsohiobjsohio Member Posts: 69
  • pompiliuspompilius Member Posts: 54
    that's a Charger concept from a few years ago.
  • hardhawkhardhawk Member Posts: 702
    It's not even a 300C!
  • dukeofdallasdukeofdallas Member Posts: 52
    I can deal with the fact that it's not a C but that looks like the Base 2.7. It looks good but the accessories are half the value of the car. I guess when you put that much into accessorizing you don't want to drive too fast anyway. Make sure everyone sees you. ha.
  • hardhawkhardhawk Member Posts: 702
    My dealer has a 300C just the way I want it except it does not have the HID lights and the Protection Group II. It is here now and is priced before the July 7th price increases, which amount to $600 on a car exactly like this one. I will lease for 3 or 4 years and the dealer will use MSRP for residual calculation but sell the car at invoice (plus adv. fees). What comments/opinions does everyone have regarding the lights and protection package? Should I just order exactly what I want or take this one now? Also get the $1000 from Chrysler Financial if I lease now. I am torn about what to do.
  • alcatrazt2alcatrazt2 Member Posts: 70
    What is the protection package? I am planning to purchase a 300 Touring...so I have no idea.
  • hardhawkhardhawk Member Posts: 702
    It includes side curtain air bags, HVAC air filter, rear parking assist, and self sealing tires.
  • alcatrazt2alcatrazt2 Member Posts: 70
    What is the HVAC air filter and rear parking assist. The things located on the rear bumper that beep? Are these things available on the 300 Touring, and are they standard on the Limited? P.S. Which package would be the closest possible to resemble the 300C, of course, w/ out the engine...
  • alcatrazt2alcatrazt2 Member Posts: 70
    What is the name of the package or packages that turns the 300 Touring into the Limited Edition? Thanks
  • stephenstephen Member Posts: 131
    RE: What's the name of the package that turns the 300 Touring into the Limited Edition?

    An envelope with $2,300. in it.
  • alcatrazt2alcatrazt2 Member Posts: 70
    The envelop which adds what to the Touring?
  • bmwdougbmwdoug Member Posts: 248
    I am looking to buy sometime in the fall. By then, the AWD 300C will be out. If you had the choice between the RWD and the AWD 300C, which would you purchase and why? Thanks
  • abeabe Member Posts: 19
    i was going to wait for the awd but the rwd will do just fine for nyc driving. awd will be more expensive and more to maintain. considering how cheap these cars are in comparison to cars like them, im sure when the awd comes out it will be cheaper than other comparable awd vehicles
  • heinzh2heinzh2 Member Posts: 49
    Hey "bigelm", the article I had read about the sedan version of the Magnum was on the Car & Driver website ...

    http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=4&article_- id=8333&page_number=2

    Here is the contents of that link below, and it appears that the Charger will be a completely separate vehicle from the Magnum sedan!

    >>Chrysler 300 convertible and coupe

    Already a solid success, Chrysler's 300 promises to become a series with the addition of coupe and convertible editions. The good-looking convertible draws heavily on the 300 Hemi C show car from the 2000 Detroit show. The coupe uses a sweeping C-pillar line to soften the 300's brick-like profile. DaimlerChrysler is also planning to offer coupe and sedan versions of the Dodge Magnum, as well as a revival of the old Charger nameplate. Look for the Dodge offerings as '05 models. The 300 coupe and convertible aren't expected until 2006.<<
  • 307web307web Member Posts: 1,033
    It isn't clear what they mean. They say they are reviving the Charge "nameplate."
    It could mean they will be calling the Magnum-based coupe a Charger.
  • heinzh2heinzh2 Member Posts: 49
    Good point, and I thought the same thing when I read it, but then I thought why use the Magnum name if they are reviving the Charger nameplate? We all know that these are two independent vehicles, so I think that there will be a Magnum sedan version, and a Charger vehicle coming out ... otherwise it wouldn't be called a Charger, or should it not be called a Magnum? After all, the Magnum sedan wouldn't be hard to build since it already exists ... in the 300. Likewise, the wagon version of the 300 already exists too. I say open the floodgates, and make every version of each model!
  • mark_amark_a Member Posts: 22
    Just a guess, but maybe the Charger will be the 6.1 SRT limited edition type and the Magnum Sedan will be the 5.7, 3.5 or 2.7
  • bmwdougbmwdoug Member Posts: 248
    Will the Chrysler 300C become a prestige car or just another failed Lincoln LS? What do you folks think?
  • gkelmensgkelmens Member Posts: 1
    Guys,

    I'm looking into the Touring Model, but I'm a little bit nervous about buying Chrysler. Do you think this car will not have as much problems as the previous models that Chrysler built. Thanks in advance for your advise.
  • emaleemale Member Posts: 1,380
    that's no contest...the 300 has already beat the LS to a pulp. however, whether or not it will be able to attain say BMW prestige...remains to be seen.
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    My thoughts exactly...

    Charger may end up being the high performance package of the "Magnum"; but of course, we'll speculate the heck out of this until more info floats...

    "heinzh2" thanks for the link and info!
  • yak54yak54 Member Posts: 72
    My 300C should be here mid August, was wondering about break in proceedure?
  • emaleemale Member Posts: 1,380
    owner's manual is the best place to look for this info...
  • mikeyjohnmikeyjohn Member Posts: 365
    My owners manual says 300 miles or 500 Kms, and I am within 10 Kms of 500. I'm not an agressive driver but you never know who might want to test me.LOL.
  • tornado25tornado25 Member Posts: 267
    HVAC air filter is just that. It is either a true HEPA or HEPA-type filter for incoming cabin air. Rear park assist uses ultrasonic waves to determine distance to an object. The things on the rear bumper do not beep--they send out the waves. It beeps inside the cabin.

    I recently "built" a 300C online and the protection group is an option package there, so it's certainly not standard anywhere else. I'm sure it's an available option on all trim lines, except perhaps for the Base. A lot of times on those trim levels, option packages are unavailable on purpose.

    The 300 Limited with all options is the closest to a 300C with all options. The only difference there is essentially the engine. (I have NOT checked to be sure, however. It's possible option packages like the CA Walnut and such are available only on the 300C on purpose--to create a greater distinction between the top end models and the others. The only way to know is to build it online. It'll tell you what's available when you build a Limited).
  • intrepidationintrepidation Member Posts: 45
    I'd not expect so, as this weekend, the 300C got its own story on *national* news. Yeah, it was a weekend show, but still.

    Now, if the convertible gets here, can be had with AWD and a 6.1L motor...<drooling> oooohhhhhh, I gotta have one of THOSE!
  • alcatrazt2alcatrazt2 Member Posts: 70
    Thanks for the help tornado25...
    I got another question for all of you...
    Regarding 300, I have nothing against it, I mean I love the car, it's looks and what it offers. However, I have stumbled upon the Nissan Altima 3.5SL, fully loaded, just aroudn 27K. It has one of the best rated engines, and the inside is well off as well. Including Bose system, Navigation, Leather (Even though it shouldn't be considered as something to talk about), and other goodies. I was thinking, just besides looks, wouldn't this be another great car to look into when relating to the 300 Touring or Limited?
  • tjbluetjblue Member Posts: 4
    No comparison. Rear vs Front wheel drive and the 300 a much larger car. Go for the Max if you have to buy Nissan.
  • yositoyosito Member Posts: 55
    My Advice:
     Run it Hard !
    Why ??
    Nowadays, the piston ring seal is really what the break in process is all about. Contrary to popular belief, piston rings don't seal the combustion pressure by spring tension. Ring tension is necessary only to "scrape" the oil to prevent it from entering the combustion chamber.

    If you think about it, the ring exerts maybe 5-10 lbs of spring tension against the cylinder wall ...
    How can such a small amount of spring tension seal against thousands of
    PSI (Pounds Per Square Inch) of combustion pressure ??
    Of course it can't.

    How Do Rings Seal Against Tremendous Combustion Pressure ??

     From the actual gas pressure itself !! It passes over the top of the ring, and gets behind it to force it outward against the cylinder wall. The problem is that new rings are far from perfect and they must be worn in quite a bit in order to completely seal all the way around the bore. If the gas pressure is strong enough during the engine's first miles of operation (open that throttle !!!), then the entire ring will wear into
    the cylinder surface, to seal the combustion pressure as well as possible.

     If you don´t Run it hard:
    The honed crosshatch pattern in the cylinder bore acts like a file to allow the rings to wear. The rings quickly wear down the "peaks" of this roughness, regardless of how hard the engine is run.
    There's a very small window of opportunity to get the rings to seal really well ... the first 20 miles !!

    If the rings aren't forced against the walls soon enough, they'll use up the roughness before they fully seat. Once that happens there is no solution but to re hone the cylinders, install new rings and start over again.

    How to do it?
    On the Street:
    Warm the engine up completely:
    Because of the wind resistance, you don't need to use higher gears like you would on a dyno machine. The main thing is to load the engine by opening the throttle hard in 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear.

    Realistically, you won't be able to do full throttle runs even in 2nd gear on most bikes without exceeding 65 mph / 104 kph. The best method is to alternate between short bursts of hard acceleration and deceleration. You don't have to go over 65 mph / 104 kph to properly load the rings. The biggest problem with breaking your engine in on the street (besides police) is if you ride your car on the freeway (too little throttle = not enough pressure on the rings) or if you get stuck in slow city traffic. For the first 200 miles or so, get out into the country where you can vary the speed more
    and run it through the gears !

    The gain in power from using this break-in method can be anywhere from 2% - 10% !!

     AND; Change Your Oil Right Away !!
    The best thing you can do for your engine is to change your oil and filter after the first 20 miles. Most of the wearing in process happens immediately, creating a lot of metal in the oil. Plus, the amount of leftover machining chips and other crud left behind in the manufacturing process is simply amazing !! You want to flush that stuff out before it gets recycled and embedded in the transmission gears, and oil pump etc...

     Hope this will be useful to you.
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