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2013 and earlier-Subaru Outback Prices Paid and Buying Experience



  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Hard to say for sure, but I doubt the incentives would decrease, since they've already shown the 08 facelift to the public.

    The one caveat is that they have decreased supply from SIA, I think Toyota took over one of the assembly lines, so if certain models are in short supply, they might surprise us and decrease incentives.

    My prediction? They'll stay flat. Just a hunch, though.

  • swebb1swebb1 Posts: 5
    I can't really comment on the deal, though it looks good.

    Regarding finance costs, you should definitely be informed before you buy. It depends on what you mean by "very good" credit -- if you shop around a good target would be 6% with no fees.

    You don't have to get your financing through the dealer, though they may be able to land you a good rate.

  • I recently purchased an Outback 3.0Rn. The on board SAT NAV was woefully out of date so I asked Subaru how much for an up to date DVD of the system. They told me £350 (about $700). and that is EACH YEAR!!!! Are Subaru charging this outrageous price in other countries, or is just us here in the UK who are being ripped off? Anyone know of a reasonable priced alternative? Advice gratefully received. :mad:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    First, take a deep breath. ;)

    In the USA, Kenwood supplies the NAV system. Here, the update DVDs (there are 2) costs USD$238 for the pair, something like that, ordered directly from Kenwood.

    Here is ours, for reference:

    You don't pay per year, it's not a subscription. You pay for a new set of DVDs, and the Tribeca has been out nearly two years, and the first update just came out, at least for the USA. The DVD is inserted under the driver's seat, IIRC.

    So, shop around, ask around, maybe even go to (?) and look for it. I can't imagine the Euro one uses a different NAV supplier.

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,925
    Seems ridiculous that one would have to update it right off the lot. That would be like purchasing an operating system (Windows?) for $300, getting it home, installing it, and then having a screen come up that says, "there is a critical update available for this software. Would you like to download and install it for $250?" :sick:
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    We're not sure there *IS* an update for Europe.

    The maps that just came out are for North America, v2.0. Early ones had v1.0 or 1.1.

    I would certainly go back to the dealer and ask for an update, if there is one available.

    Remember, Europe got the Tribeca about a year after the US got it. They probably haven't even thought about map updates yet.

  • mrskkbmrskkb Posts: 3
    Have always had volvo wagons and currently a saab 95 wagon.

    It is time for a change.

    Looked at a subaru outback today.

    Are all of you subaru owners happy with the car?
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,925
    I am not - mine is a fit/finish lemon. But, I am among the minority, and I hope my car is as well. (07 Outback Basic MT)
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • thallbergthallberg Posts: 18
    :) I've owned a 1996 Outback Wagon, a 1999 SUS Outback and currently own a 2003 H-6 VDC Wagon. I think they were all exceptional cars and would recommend them.
    The only problem I had was with the SUS at 12000 miles. There was a hairline crack in the engine block. SOA replaced the short block and gave me a loaner during the repair. The first two cars were totaled in head on collisions (not my fault!) which I walked away from with a few brusises from the air bags.
    The VDC now has about 60,000 miles on it and the only things I've done are oil changes and a set of brake pads at 40,000. If you're use to Volvo and Saab I would definitely take a look at the H-6 wagons. I've found the VDC to be very comfortable, quiet and pleasant driver. I've found myself much less likely to trade off Subarus after four years than other cars I've owned, which have included Hondas, Nissans and Mazdas.
  • rudikamprudikamp Posts: 34
    I bought a 2006 Outback L.L.Bean sedan and I am very pleased with it.
    No problems , the car just feels right. Had 3 Volvo's since
    1957,all were great cars with no problems.Traded one for the
    Subaru and the 1990 740 is still in use with 168K.
    I highly recommend the H-6 Outback.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,925
    Yes, I will say that I very much enjoyed my 1996 Outback. It had its problems, but was a very solid and reliable car. One would expect 11 years of experience to yield a better car in every respect, but that is not what I have found. My '07 is problematic and I am very sorry that I purchased it. No problems with the drive train, but it rattles like a tin can, all of the exterior light assemblies have a severe moisture-retention problem (something Subaru apparently plans to pass off as "normal" due to the systemic and costly nature of the problem), the shift/parking boots crack like they are 30 years old, now the dash lighting comes on and off at will, and windows/doors are almost completely non-functional at temps colder than -20F (probably not something with which you will have to worry!).

    If the seats were not so comfortable, I think I would really dislike this car. As it is, I certainly would not consider buying another one (07).
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • thallbergthallberg Posts: 18
    That definitely sounds unSubaru. But I've been reading other quality control problems with the new Subies in these forums.
    Hope the quality isn't going as mainstream as thier recent styling changes.
    I think I'll keep my '03 until they work things out.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    '98 Forester has been great since day one, I'll probably cry when I sell it (need a bigger vehicle with at least 6-7 seats).

    Wife has a Legacy. Dad has an Outback. Sis has a Forester. Bro has a Legacy.

    It's contagious. :shades:
  • rob_mrob_m Somewhere North of BostonPosts: 813
    I am currently on Subaru's #4, an 03 Outback and #5, an 05 Legacy GT sedan.

    #3 was a 99 Legacy GT sedan, traded at 125k for the new turbo GT. #2 was a 96 Outback wagon traded at 85k, because my wife thought the new Seamist Green color was pretty. #1 was a 92 Loyale 4wd 5-speed traded for the automatic sedan, because the dw refused to drive a standard.

    All were relatively trouble-free. I expect to be trading the Outback for a new one in the next 18 months. Go for it! Rob M.
  • lskinnerlskinner Posts: 8
    For what it may be worth, I purchased an '07 Legacy about 6 weeks ago. So far, I am reasonably happy with the car. The only fly in the ointment was a problem with a squeaky clutch pedal. Subaru was decent, but not fabulous, about addressing the problem. Besides that, I'm very happy with the car (so far).

    I suppose I was spoiled by my previous car (a Honda Accord) which had essentially no problems (besides parts that wore out) for 6 1/2 years. After reading the commentary here, I am bracing myself for more problems but keeping my fingers crossed.

    The 4 wheel drive does rock though.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    I've had 2 Subarus - a 1979 wagon and a 2002 Outback LL Bean. They are good solid cars and give great confidence in bad weather.

    I loved the AWD and the overall reliability and would buy one again.

    Things I did not like (and part of the reasons I sold the 2002 last year) are these:

    - they are not built for tall people. The seats have short bottom cushions and are not quite up to the comfort of a Honda seat. (Comparing LL Bean to Accord or Odyssey with leather here). No telescoping wheel (though that should be fixed in 2008 Legacys and Outbacks).

    - The auto tranny at that time was a 4 speed and nothing special. It tended to not be in the right gear.

    - The dealers by me were okay but generally not convenient (hours) as others.

    All said and done I would consider one again but I have to say I have enjoyed the over all ownership experience of Hondas more (slightly more reliable and better dealers and better ergonomics for tall people).

    But that is just me and Subarus are nice cars and a little more off the beaten path than a Honda or Toyota. That part I liked.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    At least they gave the Bean models a 5 speed auto for MY2005.
  • pathtomaxpathtomax Posts: 215
    I now own my 2nd Subaru. I leased my first 1996 Outback Wagon (the first one on the lot of that new Crocodile Dundee redesign) for 24,000 miles. The only thing that went was the drivers seat heater no longer lit up.

    I now own a 2001 Outback Limited Auto wagon with 110,000 miles. I beat on this with 38,000 commuter miles a year for two years. Now I work from home so it does not get as much work.

    This car gets all the routine maintenance. The only sticklers:
    - The brake rotors warp. Even with my new brakes I have had them smoothed a number of times.
    - The auto transmission HATES to downshift unless I slam on the gas.
    - I had my head gasket work done at 105,000 miles. They started to leak, but I did very well lasting that long.

    Well, I live in New England so there are so many VERY LOYAL Subaru owners on the road here. And, we love to talk about them :)

    I am holding out for my next Outback, in RED again ( I have Winestone now) with Navigation!!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That trans is trying to save you gas. ;)
  • ljordan2ljordan2 Posts: 4
    Faced this question about a year ago, had never owned a Subaru or 4 wheel drive. I compared a Toyota Highlander and a Forester but bought the 06 Outback and am very happy. I liked it's room and ride over the Forester. Highlander was just too expensive. Now have 16K miles and enjoy the quiet smooth ride, power (non-turbo four) is OK, getting about 24 miles per gallon on mixed driving, quality is outstanding, would definitely buy another one.
  • npbdnpbd Posts: 4
    I bought a new subaru outback in 2002, change timing belt at 20k at 85k check engine light keep comming up, replace ignition coil twice melting wiring from the coil to spark plug, now at 135k I need to change the engine because of coolant issue
    My driving style is not agressive never go over 4k rpm always between 2.5 and 3.5k 80% highway 20 city.

    check this web site
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Why did your timing belt get changed at 20k miles? Something isn't right here.

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    That's a funny site. You do realize that have a picture of a car with a 2.0L engine (2002-2004 WRX) when they are talking about earlier 2.5L engines!

    If you are gonna do that at least get the pic right.

  • newsub1newsub1 Posts: 1
    My wife and I just were quoted $27,335 for the 3.0 Outback LL Bean with Navigation, auto dimming mirror with Home Link, all season mats, cargo nets etc - this was at Don Jacobs in Milwaukee.
    I was very surprised by the pricing.
  • npbdnpbd Posts: 4
    noisy engine in the morning. I brought back to the dealer (under guaranty) and they told me they changed (I don't know if they did it or just reajusted the belt. I did not paid for the repair) after that no more noise.
  • npbdnpbd Posts: 4
    You may be right, I did not do it, just find it out on the internet.
  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,895
    $27335 for a 3.0R w/Nav.


    I'm a cheap skate that doesn't need a car and I still wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on that deal; great price...

    15.5 XC70 T6 / 16 Soul EV / 17 Toyota 86

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 10,925
    Oh, it might have been the timing belt tensioner. Still strange for it to be causing problems at that low mileage, but if they were in there for a tensioner they may have put a new belt on.... maybe - those warranty repairs often end up being a "do only what you must" job.

    So far warranty repairs on my new Outback have been done satisfactorily.
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2008 and 2013 Subaru Forester(s), 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    When I opened it, the link for the 2008 Legacy debut also popped up on the right. Check that out, too.

    Both were from the Chicago show earlier this year.

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