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  • frnowiakfrnowiak Member Posts: 3
    I have a 2000 Ranger extra cab 4 door. It seems to have wind noise around the top of the front and rear doors. Is anyone else experiencing the same?
  • kit1404kit1404 Member Posts: 124
    I wonder about that diagnosis of carbon build-up. My engine started making noise at 5,000 miles - I lived with it until about 17,000 miles, at which point the noise was awful. And, apparently at this point the engine would not register anything properly on engine diagnostics. I wanted a new engine - only got a rebuild. The newly rebuilt engine made the very same noise that the original engine made after about 5,000 miles. It is a defective engine design - not sure what they changed in 1998, but it sure was not for the best. I have read on other sites that the wrist-pins are the culprit - the mechanic said it had a loose rod. Don't know for sure - don't have the truck anymore. Was the first time in over 20 years that I was extremely disappointed with Ford.
  • fredfred3fredfred3 Member Posts: 73
    Thanks for all your advice. Last time I bought a new car, the dealer charged me an extra $450 for an "advertising fee" which he said was charged to him by the factory on top of the invoice price. I asked to see the invoice and he showed me a photo copy which showed the invoice plus advertising fee. I asked to see an original or onion skin copy and the sales manager suddenly got very irate and practically threw me out of the showroom for "questioning his integrity," lol. He told me if I didnt like it, I could go to any dealer and they would charge me the same thing.

    $295 over invoice seems fair if the dealer does not try to tack on any extra fees. Between the hold back and any factory incentives they are still going to make out like bandits anyway

    By the way, what exactly is an FDAF assesment?
  • dwfmillsdwfmills Member Posts: 12
    Don't know. I'll try to find out.
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    I remember a while back someone else was having wind noise in their 4door Ranger. I believe they took it back to the dealer, asked them to ensure the doors were level, and change the seals, and this solved the problem.
  • fredfred3fredfred3 Member Posts: 73
    FDAF is the advertising fee which my dealer says is billed into the invoice by Ford. It is $110 on the invoice that the dealer showed me. He is willing to sell me a base Ranger for $150 over invoice plus tax, tags and a $96 documentation fee.
    This seems reasonable, although I am not entirely sure because of the holdback (which is about $348). I test drove two 5spd Rangers tonight. The first one, a blue one with the sliding rear window which I liked more felt like it was shifting wrong. The clutch was catching very late and when it would finally engage, the whole truck would jerk. The second one (a gold one without the sliding rear window which I liked less) seemed to shift much smoother although it kept making a "wup...wup....wup" sound (the rear wheel was not bolted on tight!!!!) I really like the blue truck but I am not comfortable buying it the way it is shifting--especially since it is brand new. I am hoping that maybe the clutch needs to be adjusted and the dealer corrects the problem since he knows I am interested in it. Also, the truck already has about 60 miles on it and a sticker on the window that says 48 miles were put on at the factory as it was randomly picked to be tested on the proving grounds. I dont know if that is a good thing or not
  • pk6pk6 Member Posts: 26
    I'm currently in the process of buying a 99 xlt s/c leaseback, low miles, as new looking. However I was a bit distrubed also by windnoise from the passenger side top of the window..all was quiet at first on the hiway until after I opened that window and then closed it, the noise began. After stopping the truck, opening and closing a door and driving off it was quiet again..opened and closed the window and again the noise returned.. either the seals aren't fitted properly or it just something to do with the "air pressure" in the vehicle at speed. Took out a second vehicle exactly the same thing. Motto is I guess.. don't open the windows on the hiway, use the a/c.
    Other than that a very nice truck, surprisingly more comfy than what I was expecting. Dealer says they will take a look at the window seals.
  • tacoma_trdtacoma_trd Member Posts: 135
    i have a 98 mazda B2500, a twin to the ranger, and have never had a problem with the windnoise factor, i ride with the windows down all the time, is it power windows, cause i dont have power windows and when i roll em up, they dont fit into place exactly right sometimes but there is no windnoise
  • fredfred3fredfred3 Member Posts: 73
    Well, after months of saving I finally got my new Ranger on Saturday, but it was a day of mixed emotions. I ended up buying he gold truck, the dealer told me that the noise it was making on the testdrive was caused by a faulty tire which they then replaced.

    Everything seemed to be going great. I bought the truck for $400 under the invoice price with very little haggling and was able to get a bedliner and sliding rear window with some of the money I saved.

    Then, after buying the truck and driving a few blocks the "wup...wup....wup" noise started again. I took it right back. They looked at it and told me that this brand new truck had a bad rear end! They offered to either sell me another truck off the lot or replace the rear end on the one I bought.

    We couldnt find another truck that I liked. I had bought a base model and I didnt think that I should have to pay for extra options which I didnt want because they sold me a truck with a bad rear end. So in the end I told them that I wanted them to replace the rear end with a new unit and I wanted them to extend my warranty. They gave me a one year extended powertrain warranty at no extra charge.

    So now I have a Escort loaner which I loath while they fix the truck. Needless to say, I am pretty nervous. Is this just going to be the start of many problems? Was the truck built on a day when half the factory called out sick. The dealer tells me that the rear end is built seperately and added at the final assembly, so that wouldnt make any difference as to the quality of the rest of the truck.

    What does everyone else think?
  • vanegasvanegas Member Posts: 1
    I have a 1999 Ford ranger 4WD X-Cab 4door
    While driving on 4wd low, on 1st gear a heavy crank noise from the joints came up, riding the vehicle at higher torque 2nd or 3rd the noise was still there, not all the time but every 4 seconds,that noise was not present on 4WD high, so to get out of the sandy area i drove it in 4wd high, then suddenly the joint broke (without the noise present)and the passenger torsion bar came apart a very heavy noise I thought that the whole suspension was separated from the vehicle……. I took it to the dealer they fixed it per warranty they replace the part and also replaced the transfer case….. Last weekend I tested the vehicle on the sand same place, and at 2nd shift 3500 RPM that crank noise on the joints was present, every 6 seconds, it is just impossible to ride the vehicle listening that noise is just scary, so I’ll take it to the dealer to do a test drive with a ford thecnician, I’m not going to the same place because that is not close to town, Do you guys know a place close to Tempe AZ?…..

    Gabriel
  • dwfmillsdwfmills Member Posts: 12
    I work for a company in Mass that makes parts for Ford, Chrysler and others, and they didn't lie to you. Things like the rear end, steering column, transmission and a lot more, are assembled in other shops and shipped to Ford as a complete unit. We occasionally (too often if you ask me) have parts that we assemble here get returned to us by Ford suppliers. You're luckier than most that they made concessions, and gave you some little extras. Trust them for the time being. Just keep all your documentation and make notes on your dealings, so that you can have a good arguement if you ever have to use the Lemon Law.
    Good luck
  • fredfred3fredfred3 Member Posts: 73
    Luckily it turned out not be be the rear end after all. It just was a defective wheel bearing which he dealer replaced. I finally picked up the truck tonight. I'm very happy with it. I did notice two minor defects but they dont seem to be much to worry over.

    1. The numbers on the odometer dont match up exactly right but it seems to be working ok (I have bought two new cars in the past and both had speedometer cable/gauge problems.)

    2. The seat belt bell dosent sound--but as long as it does not lead to any other electrical problems I am actually kind of glad about that.

    By the way, at what mileage did everyone go in for their first oil change? I always thought you should change the oil after the first 1000 miles but the dealer tells me to wait until 3000.
  • dwfmillsdwfmills Member Posts: 12
    I would follow what the owners manual tells you for service. The heck with the dealer. If there is a problem later on, do you think the dealer will say "Oh, I told him to come in at 3000"?
    I don't think so. Glad to hear it was only a minor fix. Good luck.
  • rangerknowhowrangerknowhow Member Posts: 25
    changing your oil is probably one of the best things you can do for any vehicle. id recomend changing it every 500 miles for the first 1500. Then the regular every 3000 mile change at least.
  • dwfmillsdwfmills Member Posts: 12
    There is a TSB for the door seals on the Ranger. I found it on the NHTSA web site at
    http://www.nhtsa.org/.
    My '00 is being assembled today if things go according to schedule, and hope to take delivery on the 15th.
  • tacoma_trdtacoma_trd Member Posts: 135
    I have seen this picture of the 2001 rangers and it has this EDGE package on it, does anybody know what exactly is that package, is it replacing the Trailhead package and it will have the 4x4 suspension??? If so will it be identical to the Mazda Troy Lee Series(as in maybe leather will be an option like the Troy Lee?)and one more thing, will the Mazda's be changing the front end styling to match its twin the ranger in 2001?
  • danny25danny25 Member Posts: 119
    I don't think it's replacing the trailhead package because that package is only for XL regular cabs, I think the edge is for ext. cabs, but I'm not positive. I read somewhere that the Mazda is getting a "freshening" for 2001.
  • dannygdannyg Member Posts: 131
    At the NY Auto Show, the guy at the Ford booth said all 2001 Rangers will have the "Edge" look. It is basically a different grille/bumper. There's also rails on the bed, but I think those are optional. Truck looks the same from the back. The Mazda booth had a few "test" 2001 models with different front ends, but I'm not sure if they were final.

    The engines are the current 2.5L 4cyl and 3.0L 6cyl plus the new 200HP 4.0L V6. Per http://www.blueovalnews.com, there will be a new 2.3L OHC 4cyl some time in the fall, but the guy at the Ford booth didn't know about it (or wasn't talking).
  • skipdskipd Member Posts: 97
    I am considering purchasing a used Ranger at a small local Ford dealer. My employer is giving me a van for commuting to work and my appointments, so what I buy will be used mostly for weekend recreation and running errands. As a result,I really couldn't justify the expense of a new vehicle for weekends only.

    The truck I'm considering purchasing is a '98 XLT supercab, 4x4, 4.0, auto., CD, power seats, etc. It only has 8,500 miles on it. The sticker price right now is $17,900.

    I'm sure I can get the price lower than that and I'm considering buying an extended warranty since the warranty on this one may only have a year or less left. After reading some posts about the great deals some people are getting on their new trucks, I'm wondering if I would be better off buying a new one. Would the prices be close after I purchase the extended warranty for the used one?

    If I do go used, does anyone have any recommendations for warranties? any advice on buying a used Ranger?

    Thanks for any info.

    Skip
  • cwo4cwo4 Member Posts: 90
    I bought a 98 XL 2wd in January from an individual. It only had 6500 miles on it. I checked it out thoroughly, no flood or wreck. No lemon. No real luxuries except Air, AM/FM/CD, and split cloth seats. Paid $9500. To me, that was a bargain. They are out there, if you look for them.
  • b_bazinetb_bazinet Member Posts: 23
    Does anyone know about the new 2.3 I-4 engine Ford will be using in the new Rangers? What kind of HP and Mileage will this new engine get? Also, when are the new Ranger hitting the dealer lots?
  • dwfmillsdwfmills Member Posts: 12
    My new super cab being delivered this Friday is costing me $22,200 delivered. XLT, 4.0, 5 spd auto, sport appearance group, power equipment group, convenience group, sport buckets, sliding rear window, dual media radio and trailer hitch. I would check with a dealer in your area and see what you cann get for the same money as the 98. If you don't get all the options you can save a bit. Also consider waiting for a little while for the year end clearances they have soon. Good luck with your decision.
  • fredfred3fredfred3 Member Posts: 73
    I did get a great deal on my new ranger (below invoice price) but although I really like the truck itself I am VERY dissapointed with the quality.

    I already mentioned that it needed a new wheel bearing. I also have been having trouble with the paint on the tailgate. It had drips at the bottom and portions in the center look terrible, like it needs another coat. It only shows up under certian lighting conditions and the dealer says it is probably normal because it is metallic paint (gold) but I dont buy it because only the tailgate looks that way. They repainted the part with the drips--they should have just repainted the whole thing. Anyone else had trouble with this color paint?

    Also, I noticed tonight that one of my front headlights is out already! And I only have 600 miles on it so far! Needles to say, I am going back to the dealer first thing Monday morning--but I am really getting SICK of taking it back there all the time.
  • fredfred3fredfred3 Member Posts: 73
    After paying $1400 for my last extended warranty, I was told that these are very highly marked up items and what you should do is offer the dealer half of the retail price (which is what the dealer pays) plus an extra $200 for the dealer profit. I guess it is true that these are marked up alot because, after I had the problems with the wheel bearings on my new Ranger, the dealer extended my warranty and it only cost him $125.
  • rossi5rossi5 Member Posts: 1
    I am considering purchasing a 2000 Ranger XLT. Wanted to know if anyone has advice on the manual vs. auto trans. Want the best mileage I can get. Only options I am thinking about are the 4 doors, limited slip, and power group. Reading some of the posts the mpg does not sound great and kind of bummed I may need higher octane to reduce a "pinging". This is my first truck purchase. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
  • superjim2000superjim2000 Member Posts: 314
    99% of the time a manual will get better mileage, compare both auto and manual on dealer lots. I know ford has a 5 speed auto but the manual should still get better mileage.
  • tacoma_trdtacoma_trd Member Posts: 135
    ford offers the 5 spd auto tranny which will help a little in gas mileage, but the manual still will get much better than an auto, the only thing is that the 5 spd auto tranny will tow a whole lot more than the manual tranny.
  • skipdskipd Member Posts: 97
    Thanks for your input. It sounds like your tuck has very similar equipment as the '98 Ranger I'm considering, except for the sport appearance group and the buckets. However, there will be a price difference of approx. $5,000-$6,000 after I wheel and deal. To me that is a lot of money to be saved, especially since this Ranger only has 8,500 miles on it. From what I understand, cars and trucks depreciate a whole heck of a lot in their first four years and I guess I just can't justify spending all of that money on a new one and only use it on weekends and to run errands.

    Again...thanks for the reponse, it is greatly appreciated :)

    Skip
  • johneeljohneel Member Posts: 11
    I have an automatic 3.0 1999 extended cab Ranger and I have never gotten over 18 mpg. I'm up to 10,000 miles. I knew I wouldn't get great mileage but I have to say I'm disappointed since I haven't even met the EPA estimates for this truck.
  • cwo4cwo4 Member Posts: 90
    Just filled up this morning. Last tank on my 98 XL 2.5 5spd got me 25.5 mpg. All in all I'm a happy camper.
  • frnowiakfrnowiak Member Posts: 3
    My 2000 Ranger 3.0l, auto, makes a very audible clicking when the AC cycles. Is this the norm for other Ranger owners.
  • kit1404kit1404 Member Posts: 124
    There was apparently a problem with some and maybe quite a few 1998 4.0 Ranger engines. There are supposed to be ways to check service records -I would do that and be sure that you have a good engine. As in my case, listen to it carefully - at idle, in park with no load (as air conditioner) running. If you hear an uneven knock that sounds strange, just don't buy this truck. Personally, I had the 5-speed automatic and it worked fine. But, the engine has limited horsepower - I would get the manual if I had to do it again. Good luck with the Ranger choice - I continue to think that you are money ahead buying the F-150 with either V-8 option.
  • tacoma_trdtacoma_trd Member Posts: 135
    On my 2.5L 98 5 spd I have 17,500 miles, the worst mpg I have ever gotten was 20 and that was flooring it all around town, reving up to hight RPM, on a normal driving day, I get around 23 in the city, I once took a long trip and got just under 28 mpg cruising at about 73-75 mph. I am pleased.
  • danny25danny25 Member Posts: 119
    Tacoma trd,
    I have a 99 2.5L ext cab, 5spd, and the most I've ever gotten was 22mpg. It only has 8500 miles on it, I don't know if that has something to do with it. Also I put on a flowmaster muffler which is suppost to give me better gas mileage. I have family 2 1/2 hrs. away and when I drive there at about 75, I still get 22mpg. Got any ideas?
  • tacoma_trdtacoma_trd Member Posts: 135
    I drove about a 7 hour trip. From what I have known and seen, most vehicles tend to get better mpg as the mileage goes up. I still dont have a lot of miles on my truck but that was clearly the best I ever got. I have gotten 25 a few times, but majority around town is about 20 mpg. I have a friend with a 97 single cab, step side ranger, he gets better than me around town, I am not sure about interstate travel.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    I have a 98 XLT 4X4 and its AC does make a slightly loud clicking noise when the compressor cycles on and off. I have been in another 98 and a 99 as well and the noise is there also. I had mine checked out by my dealer as well as an independent and both have said its normal.
  • steveeaststeveeast Member Posts: 158
    Finally decided I prefer the Ranger to the Tacoma. Now have to decide what I need to pull my boat rig. It's only around 1500 pounds all in, but the key test is always pulling it out of the water on a steep, wet, slippery ramp. I'm looking at the 3.0 V6 with the standard 3.73 axle ratio and 4WD. This feels like it should be plenty powerful enough. The 4.0 and/or 4.10 axle ratio seems like overkill for my needs. Anyone have any comments?
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    The 3.0 will do fine for 1500lbs. Get the tow pkg and the limited slip too, a must when towing.
  • steveeaststeveeast Member Posts: 158
    What's the tow pkg? I only see the receiver hitch option. Am I missing something blidingly obvious?
  • jdr944turbojdr944turbo Member Posts: 15
    If anybody is in the market for a Trailhead, mine's for sale. Details:

    2000 Ranger XL Regular Cab 2WD with Trailhead Package, 3.0 V6, 5sp manual transmission.

    Trailhead package adds: CD player, fog lamps, 16" alloy wheels & tires, and 4WD suspension and ride height. (Similiar to Toyota's pre-runner)

    with tilt/cruise, CD player, sliding rear window,
    A/C, and bed mat.

    Color: Mandarin Gold/Tan interior
    Mileage: 3000 (Yes, That's 3 thousand)

    Not a scratch.
    Price: $13,000.

    Not dissatified, just really want a full size truck instead.

    Respond to jdroberson@earthlink.net if interested.

    Thanks.
  • jackal4464jackal4464 Member Posts: 8
    I just purchased a new ranger with the trailhead package. I got a 3.0 v6 with a manual transmission, and a 4.10 rear end, I drive real consertively with it since I am still breaking it in, but I have been getting great fuel milage out of this truck, driving around some city and most highway I am getting anywhere from 25. to 26.8 mpg, that is only with four tanks of gas thusfar but it has all of the power that i need without having to "dog the motor," Is anyone else having good or worse luck with theirs??
  • b_bazinetb_bazinet Member Posts: 23
    I am considering purchasing a 98 Ranger with the 4.0L 2V V6 engine. However, I've seen where the new 2001 Ranger will be available with the 4.0L SOHC engine. Can anyone tell me if it would be worth waiting 5-6 months for the new Ranger? Is this a better engine than the old 4.0L or is there really no differece? Any thoughts on the two engines would be greatly appreciated.
  • dannygdannyg Member Posts: 131
    25+ MPG sounds high for a 5sp 3.0L, so congrats! Glad to hear that really babying the engine pays off in MPG. I may trade in my old Ranger for a new one later this year. I don't drive aggressively, so I'll look forward to improving on the 19 MPG hwy I'm getting out of my old 2.8L 5sp 4x4.

    Others in this forum have reported about 20-22 MPG hwy from a 3.0L 2WD (5sp & auto).
  • danny25danny25 Member Posts: 119
    Yes, there is definitely a difference between the old SOHV 4.0L and the new SOHC 4.0L. The new engine will have 205 hp and 235 lb-ft of torque. That's only an increase of 10 in the torque area, but about 45 in the hp. I here the SOHV 4.0L has plenty of power itself, but it all depends on what you need from you're truck.
  • b_bazinetb_bazinet Member Posts: 23
    wondering more in the lines of what that extra 45hp means for the truck? Is it substantial enough to warrant the wait? Better acceleration, driveability, gas milage, less noise?
  • dannygdannyg Member Posts: 131
    Personally, I'd get the 3.0L if you need a truck now. That is, if you're looking for a practical truck for moderate amounts of towing/hauling. If you want a fun-to-drive truck (good acceleration etc.), wait for the new 4.0L SOHC.

    Since no one has driven a Ranger with the SOHC yet--except at Ford--I can only make educated guesses. Here goes: the SOHC will probably tow about the same (because torque is about the same) but it will offer better acceleration and better pickup at highway speeds (because it has lots more hp). I've never driven an Explorer (which has the SOHC) so I can't comment on the noise/MPG issue. But you can figure about the same, maybe slightly better.

    Hope this helps.
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    I have been in a Sport Trac with the SOHC 4.0 V6. The motor is quieter, revs freely and is leaps and bounds ahead of the 4.0 I have in my 98 Ranger. I would wait, you won't be dissappointed. Acceleration and response was also excellent. The Ranger will stay on top with this one, I just wish Ford would have done this about 3 years ago.
  • frnowiakfrnowiak Member Posts: 3
    My 2000 Ranger 3.0l has a radio problem. I can hear what sounds like engine interference on all radio channels am and fm. Is anyone else having the same problem. It almost sounds like it does not have resistor plugs in it. The dealer mentioned the fuel pumps were causing some problems with other models, but does not have a service bulletin on the Ranger.
  • dwfmillsdwfmills Member Posts: 12
    Picked up my Y2K Ranger Monday. So far so good. Other than a few little glitches with paint in hard to see areas, I'm happy. (I went over it from top to bottom last night, will look under this weekend).
    The ride is awesome compared to the '87 Bronco II I traded. Power is better than the test drive I took a while back. I'll miss the turning radius of the Bronco but the ride will make up for it.
    Only time will tell.
    Does anyone know if I can fit an aftermarket sun or moon roof in my Ranger? It doesn't look promising from what I can see.
  • mattmachine1mattmachine1 Member Posts: 1
    I'll say right off the bat that theoretically, the Ranger and the B-series are the same truck. Mazda and Ford merged on practically every concept of that type of truck. Ford makes Mazda's engine, the frames are the same, you can't tell the difference at all on the interior. I will state that the Mazda's 3 yr, 50,000 warranty beats Ford's 3 yr, 30,000 mile warranty, but honestly, unless you're doing any hefty mileage like I am, the warranty will go out at the same time.
    I've got a '99 XLT Ranger, with 4X4,supercab, off-road group, etc. Oh, yeah, it's the 3.0 V6 automatic. I too was wondering if it would supply the power I wished for, against the 4.0. Honestly, I've heard a lot of problems with the "pinging" sound in the 4.0 engine, but only one instance of a problem with the 3.0, and that was resolved by using different gasoline. See, that 3.0 engine was designed for 85 octane, and some people like to sup it up with higher-octane, but that's not the fuel the engine was designed to run optimally on. Pinging resulted from burning too much fuel, hence the valves had more pressure than designed for, so the nice fluid motion that the engine was designed to do, is altered. I myself have run both types of fuel in my baby and have heard no such thing. As for the power, I love it. I've had no problems at all. I've towed things, nothing real huge, but as long as what you are towing doesn't really cause a hindrance due to wind resistance, it's no problem.
    If you wish to go off-road, there is one huge downfall on the 4x4 truck. It comes with passenger tires! As massive as they look, there are only 4 plys in the tires (that's bands of different steel types woven together that determines the strength of the tire). See, this past summer I was doing real off-road, not just mudding like some would call it, but real off-roading it. I was deep in the wilderness of Nevada going over some rough terrain and I blew 3 tires out. I wasn't being wreckless at all, but the rocks were enormous. I put some Goodyear Light Truck tires (10 ply) on the Ranger, and it did fantastic. I honestly, didn't have a problem driving over anything. My truck even outclimbed the other S10 and older ranger that were out there. It would go up anything, and over anything, as long as the clearance from the frame and differential was O.K, I drove over it. I will say one thing though on you're choice of vehicle. If you're caught going to buy a new one, they are pricey, but I figured I'd go all out. I am so glad I got exactly what I wanted, because so many times I'm thankful that my truck has all of the options available and didn't downsize my choice due to cost. I don't know if you're going 4X4, but at least go with the extended cab with 4 doors. It's so nice and you'll miss it if you choose otherwise. Here's another idea. You may be the type, as I that if you were buying a truck, you would buy it new, but if you could find something like a '99 Ranger, you'll cut about $4-5000 off the price. If you know the owner and how they treated it, I would have taken that route, because my payments are at $486.19 a month (bought it, not leasing). Moral of the story, I've put 17,000 miles on it in less than 9 months, been over all terrain, and haven't had a problem with it yet. I love it and if you get the opportunity, go with it in black. It's hard to keep clean, but when it is it really shines, and also, the resale value will be better. As for the MPG I've gotten around 20 in city, and 23 on highway, and that's with the loaded package. Oh, yeah also, if you are ever planning on getting a shell for it, don't go flareside. Flareside looks nice, and sporty, but you can't really get a nice shell to fit it's appearance. Oh, yeah, the Ranger will also resale better than the Ford, simply due to popularity and history. As for your choice of picks, both trucks are at the top on performance, safety, and the 3.0 V6 offers best MPG and is the most environmentally friendly, next to the electric models. This was long, but at the same time, I hope it helped you to narrow your decision.

    The mattmachine
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