each letter in the VIN is translated into a 2 digit number that matches it's placement on your telephone key pad. Numbers are entered as is. Therefore 1FT would be entered 1 33 81. The 1 is entered as 1 the F is entered as 33 (3rd key, 3rd position), and the T is entered 81 (8th key 1st position).
I ordered a 250 ps CC Lariat 4x4 on 9/30 and it is due 11/15. The MSRP was about 39,500. I negotiated to 32,800. I guess I'll find out if this is true next week.
Like a few others who just rec message from vopc my veh as of nov 7 has arrived at the ramp!!!with an eta to dealer 11/22 odered 9/6/99..can't wait it's getting better everytime!!
My F250 SD is now sitting in Ayer, Massachusetts waiting for a truck to bring it to my dealer. Geez, that's only 60-70 miles from here. Have to take another look at those crazyelvis posts...
To decode that VIN, and to learn how to get information through VOPC if you haven't heard yet, go to Ford-Diesel.com. That site has step by step instructions and decoding information that are complete and invaluable. Go to their site, then go to "FAQ's", then "2. The Ordering Process." Just print that section out as you'll use it! My VOPC message this morning, "as of Nov. 6, your vehicle was released from the plant." Yippe-kay-yay-yaaa! ETA Nov. 19.
I ordered my 2000 Lariat F-250 SD super cab on October 5th, 1999. I have called my dealer various times on the status. I called him today and he tells me that the order has been "picked up " by Ford but no VIN # yet. Wouldn't he have a VIN if the order has been acknowledged by Ford or is he blowing smoke? I wish I would have found this conference before ordering. I'm thinking about going to another dealer, before the waiting game becomes too long.
If you want to find the rail yard......go to the yellow page directory in Yahoo for the city your yard is in.......look under the heading of railroad and you should get a few matches....for me the company ...I think allied.....came up under that search.....Give it a try....even gives you a map to the local.....But don't bug them if you don't know what you are doing.....not to brag...but I am gifted...if I can use that word... in dealing with people in a way as not to anger them. My wife can't believe some of the things I am able to get...or get away with. In the yard situation....and in talking to the VOPC personel...which I agree should not be done....I did not use my real name....nor did I use anyones name from Gator Ford. It is all in the way you handle someone......anyway....just be careful...because I am sure that the dealer and also the yard personel do not want to deal with thousands of car buyers....because they do have thousands of cars at these places......And you wouldn't want the yard to accidentally "loose" your truck for a few extra weeks.....Geez...I hope I don't come across as arrogant or something. Sorry if I do. SeeeeeeeeeeYa all later!!
Follow the advice in post #478. Contact your dealer and ask for their 5 digit dealer VOPC code and also for your order #. The factory can indeed have your order. A VIN# will not be issued for a vehicle until just before it is scheduled. Your order can sit "clean and unscheduled" without a VIN# for a very long time if your dealer does not have the allotment to get your order scheduled. Ask your dealer to see their weekly allotment report that each dealership is issued each week by their zone representative. Once you have some time under your belt ordered it's kind of a crap shoot as to whether or not to find another dealer. But look at some of the posts from this week where orders from may and july are not yet scheduled. It is purely allotment. Turn and earn. Kind of a catch 22. You sell 'em, we'll make 'em for you. You don't, you wait. Not very fair for the consumer or the small dealer trying to serve their community. Your salesman may not know a thing about their allotment or he may know full well blowing smoke the whole way. Go find out!
I'm no expert here, (just another bozo on the bus) but a month without a VIN sounds a little long. I had a build date & ETA within 3 weeks of order. In all fairness though, you won't get a VIN until the chassis is available at the plant. That's where the VIN comes from. Scheduling can't be done before chassis availability. Just to be on the safe side you may want to check on your dealer's allocation for your configuration.
Just a FYI for F250-350 SD owners whom took delivery prior to May 99. Took my F250SD XLT CC SB 4x4 to the dealer because the rotors seemed to warp slightly as they heated up. Expressway driving primarily. Turns out they're putting on a whole new, updated brake assembly - hubs, rotors, calipers - the works. So if you feel that pulsation on your pre-March 99-built 250/350, you may want to get it to your dealer for upgrading. By the way, still waiting to hear if anyone has researched or added a power lock mechanism to the taigate. Thanks.
OK, I just heard the KY plant is once again (always) having trouble getting trucks out of Louisville due to rail carrier problems. I've heard this situation off and on for as long as I've read this post. What is Ford doing to correct this problem? Don't they know this is losing customers, or at least making them dissatisfied with with Ford. If the rail Co. can't produce, then get over the road trucking. It may be more expensive but it is better than losing customers due to already too long lead times!!
Just ordered 00 F-250 SD, SC, SB, 4X4 XLT V10 3:73LS AUTO. List 32910, paying 29350. 500 over invoice. Local dealer that I buy from regular at this price. This dealer as well as 3 others in the St. Louis area all told me Ford will not build any V10's until Feb 2000, and to expect March delivery. 5.4 and SFD 6-8 weeks. Anyone else heard this.
Hey, everybody! I'm finally ready to order an F-350 Crew cab, V-10, 4X4, Lariat, but I'm having a hard time finding a dealer willing to do it for less than $1000 over invoice. (Most, in fact, will only go $1000-$1400 below sticker) At this point, I'm willing to go $500 over, but not $1000. Has anybody in the Denver-metro area/front range had any better luck? Can you suggest a dealer?
"I dont see any reason not to have a vin no, right after its orderd"
The reason is simple: the dealer doesn't have an allocation. You were very fortunate indeed to have ordered from a dealer that had an immediate allocation for the truck you ordered, and your order was therefore scheduled quickly. Your experience was the exception rather than the rule. It's unreasonable to expect that every order will be treated as yours was (although it would be nice).
I had a VIN in a couple of Days also.....Goes to show you to shop around....and TRY....to find a TRUCK ONLY dealer.....There are probably 8-11 dealers in my area....St.Pete/Tampa ....within an hour or so from my front door.....but they all sell CARS mostly...and light duty trucks/SUV's. I did not know a thing about allocation and DORA's or anything on this site before I ordered. I just figured that Gator Ford...who only sells trucks...would be the place to go. And I know it is not only Gator Ford out there that is a Truck only dealer.....so if you aren't happy....try and find a truck only dealer...... I did order the pop up tie downs from Bullaccessories today. Once I get them ...install them....I will report back with info....They were 29.95 a set.
How do you know your rotors were warping? My truck pulls a little to the right. I jacked up the front, and it seems that the right front wheel will not spin as far as the left one with about an equal spin. I also get more brake dust on the right front rim than the left. I think maybe the right front brake is dragging just a little bit. I wonder if the rotor is warped a little. I will bring it to the dealer to be checked when I get some time, but it may be a while.
Yesterday my VPOC message said as of 11/7 my unit had arrived at the "ramp"... I was told it had been shipped, unloaded and was waiting for transport to the dealer. Today the message says "As of 11/7 your unit has been shipped via rail carrier, with an eta of 11/21"... I'm confused to say the least, my truck must have a thing for trains.
Viperle, you don't have teliscoping mirrors, you have the standard trailer tow mirrors. These teliscoping mirrors move in and out manually about 2 1/2 inches, They also fold back, It seems that the teliscoping feature started in production in the sept to oct time frame. The sell sheet for the f250/350 uses the phrase,"late availablity" to describe this option.
Update on my truck: F250sd cc 4x4 lwb, V-10, xlt Locked in for production Nov 22, (ordered July 27) I can almost taste it.....
Try Kevin Clay at Burt.com (Arapahoe Rd.). He's the sales manager for Internet sales and did a pretty good job on price for me. I ordered my truck for approximately $600.00 over, but you can probably do better. My only concern is delivery -- I can't seem to get a date from anybody. I ordered my truck the first week in October.
well, some are getting their trucks, some are waiting (like us) and some others have just ordered (or about to do so). as we can all observe here, the average wait seems to be increasing slightly (a fortunate few are getting their trucks in < 6 weeks but that is the rare exception (like Dave84 mentioned, probably based upon overall timing... good allocation & good inventory at Ford for your specific config)).
a few VIN's are issued with the DORA but this is also the exception. however; you can be assured that if you are not scheduled (a VIN will have been issued b4 then) within a month or so of order then that's a strong case for allotment problems. I now believe that valid DORA info can be received even if an allotment problem exists at the dealer for your config at the time of order. some dealers will place the order even though they already have the problem (& note that the salesperson may not be aware of this... but the sales manager more than likely IS aware). others will not even place the order (or will place it with priority 99) until they have allotment for your config.
in any case, the beast doesn't get scheduled until the entire truck is in inventory AND the dealer has allotment for your specific config. so it's obvious that EITHER of these issues can hold up scheduling. however; if you're not even scheduled after a month wait?... as aforementioned; it's the allotment issue that's is more than likely holding things up.
and Ford's not building v10's 'til 02/00? does THAT really make sense? the only reason I'd say they're not building is because they don't need any (a highly unlikely scenario)! as why'd they cut their own throats by not building one of their most popular options as doesn't that kind of seem like it would hold up a whole bunch of truck schedules? would seem so to me.
Did some research myself on this one... Position #8 of the VIN seems to be the engine code (F=Diesel, L=V8, S=V10). This is unverified info but I believe it to be correct. I compared several VIN #'s with various engines and position #8 is consistent with my theory.
I made an assumption that the pulsing I felt through the pedal and steering wheel were caused by rotor warpage. The odd thing was that I didn't feel it until they had time to get warm ie. expressway driving. The manufacturer refers to this as BRAKE SHUDDER. I've experienced warped rotors on several vehicles in the past, and that is what led me to believe that was my problem. Check out TSB # 99-12-12 ISSUE - new design front rotors and hubs began prod on 3/8/99. The new rotors and hubs are not interchangable with old parts. If vehicle is serviced with wrong part, the vehicle will experience symptoms such as: brake drag, extensive lining wear, brake shudder, associated brake noises. My guess is that the new design parts got mixed in at the assembly plant and some SDs got a combination of old and new. My service advisor didn't even blink when I explained the problem and ordered a whole new assembly on the spot without even putting my beast on the rack. Hope this helps. TO D LAKE
Another dealer is MedVed Brutyn Ford. Ask for Marc White in Denver. He's the internet sales manager there. I ordered mine from MedVed in Castle Rock (Randy Norton) and have had no trouble at all with them.
TOO NICE HERE IN COLO., TOOK A VACATION DAY ON SUN. AND HEADED FOR THE MOUNTAINS FOR SOME FISHING.(CAUGHT 5,LOST 1,MISSED 1)...FILLED UP WHEN I LEFT, WENT OVER BERTHOUD PASS (11307FT) TO GRANBY RES. THEN ON TO KREMLING, BACK THROUGH SILVERTHORN OVER EISENHOWER PASS (?FT.)AND BACK HOME TO WESTMINSTER 249.7 MI. STOPPED AT THE SAME STATION, SAME PUMP AND FILLED UP 16.5 GAL.= 15.1MPG..NOT ONLY WAS I HAPPY WITH THE MILEAGE, THE TRUCK TOOK THE PASSES FAR BEYOND MY EXPECTATIONS..NOW IF I COULD GET THIS GRIN OFF MY FACE!!!!!
I waited 8 weeks for a VIN and day later got scheduled. I am expecting delivery Nov. 19, so that makes my whole wait 12 weeks. I can accept that just fine. How long you wait is directly related to dealer allotment and configuration scheduling/parts availability at the plant. I got my VIN as a matter of fact on the day I was going to place another order with a dealer with excellent allotment. I knew nothing about this allotment stuff when I ordered. It is a big deal. Does anybody have the 2K Crew cab Lariat package? Do the rear doors have the woodgrain trim on them? I can't wait to slide a CD into the dash and ride in my Cowboy Cadillac! Position #8 on my VIN matches the "S=V-10" formula. (And I said I'd never use algebra!) RE towing mirrors - I don't know how long they will be offering both the telescoping and non-telescoping towing mirrors. As of right now you can order either 54Y=non-telescoping 54E=telescoping Has anybody with a recent delivery ordered the 54Y and received telescoping mirrors? If so that may be a sign.
yes the new 2000 lariat crew cab have the wood grain door trims on the rear doors just like the fronts. They are beautiful. Also the newer mirrors (54E) are really great, they can slide inward and outward without any tools required.
Just wanted to thank laura31, bobh12, smccarthy, and chrispal for all your suggestions! I'm confident that at least one of these suggestions will pan out.
The V-10 isn't the torque monster the PSD is, but it will have no problems towing, especially if you opt for the 4.30 axle ratio. The current V-10 has more torque than the diesels did just a few years ago. Lewac is right about the PSD being the preference if you're towing more than 70% of the time. Others just prefer the diesel. The opposite is also true. Some people want a gasser and/or don't tow 70% of the time. The PSD will probably get about 5mpg better towing a decent size 5th wheel.
The one area that will notice a significant distance is at altitudes. The gas engines lose about 10% of their power for every 1,000 feet over a certain altitude (I don't remember where the 10% drop starts). A diesel won't lose any power until you start climbing above 10,000 feet. I believe Ford has a high altitude package for the V-10, which helps the engine maintain full power up to 4,000 feet or so.
Rail delays impact all manufacturers, not just the ones with factorys in KY.
The $34,000+ MSRP quoted awhile back doesn't seem excessive. The truck obviously had more options than the one Crazyelvis bought, since his truck had a MSRP in the $30,000 range. My truck had a MSRP window sticker of around $35,200 and a dealer invoice of around $30,600. My truck is:
99 F-350 SD SC 4x4 V-10 dually Lariat, 4.30 l/s axle ratio, auto trans, trailer tow, camper pkg, Class IV hitch, trailer tow mirrors, privacy glass, all-terrain tires and matching spare.
I ordered the power trailer mirrors on my f250 xlt sc 4x4. When I placed order in first part of september, they were not listed as an option yet. My Truck got built the week of Oct.11...when it arrived one week later, it had the telescoping mirrors. Check back in the SuperDuty II group. I did some measurements on how wide the truck is with the mirrors in and extended out. The mirrors manually extend 3" on each side. I think that the total distance across the truck with both mirrors extended was like 90", extended in 84". I keep my extended in, but still need to fold one side in when going through bank drive-throughs and the local McDonalds....makes it easier to get food/cash. I do love those power mirrors though, you can see just about everything and the spot mirrors located below help you spot smaller vehicles that are in your blind spot. Hope that information helps....
VOPC check... we're now "locked in" for production week of 11/22, eta 12/6. ah... the wait is getting a little shorter & we're still very "happy campers" as it's been 5 1/2 weeks from order at this juncture. that's good "timing" as we told our salesperson (Ken English of Gator Ford in Tampa, FL) that we did NOT want possession b4 12/1/99 (due to financial reasons)). so hopefully we see our beast within a month.
Bruno... that's a good point about the v10, 4.3 diff ratio. if one opts for the 4.3 then this will give considerably more "oomph" than the stock 3.73 using that same engine. this just may be enough for some to allow them to keep the gasser (and if you can keep the foot off the accelerator a little the mileage will not appreciably suffer either).
& the 8th position of the VIN IS obviously the engine code as ours is "F" (we've ordered the psd).
What's your latest information on the "no V10 Super Duty's till next year" story going around? Is Ford really putting all those eggs in the Excursion basket for a while?
Once again, thanks Shawn. I think I know what the VIN position #4 represents. F-150 4x2's all seem to have Z while F-150 4x4's have an R. F-250 4x4's = N, F-350 SRW 4x4's = S, and F-350 DRW 4x4's = W. Couldn't find any F-250/F-350 4x2's to compare but I'll betcha they have there own letter.
Although I own a 2000 F250 SD CrewCab V10, I hate Ford! I'm going to drive this [non-permissible content removed] for four years and sell it and get a Dodge (I love my 96 Dodge). Why does Ford called the trailer mirrors "telescoping" when they're not functional?
Call me crazy and stupid for buying a Ford if i hate Ford so much. yep....
When I placed my order 10/8/99 I received a sheet from the dealer that had all the info on my truck including Order #, Priority #(10), Options, Prices, Dealer #, etc. The title at the top says " Vehicle Order Confirmation ). Is this the DORA that has been mentioned in this conference or is there another form? I have yet to get any other info from the dealer such as build date, delivery date, Vin #, etc. Am I being mislead and if so what should I do to make sure this order is really in process?
We won't call you crazy (we save that for elvis) I might think you are a little off. I have a 2000 CC 4x4 Lariat. I love it. It isn't perfect but there would be one heck of a wait on it if it were. I say drive it and enjoy or sell it NOW so we don't have to hear about your woes for the next 4 years. The market is good if you need to sell it.
Tabs what are the fees you guys are paying. (License fees) We just passed a tab tax to reduce it to $30 here in washington. When I picked up my truck (9/15) I was shocked at the $769 tab fee. Can't wait till next year for the $30. renewel.
I read all kinds of prices out there but the bottom line is I bought mine from Pioneer Ford in Lynden Wa. They have 2 on the lot and the dealer told me last week they would give the same deal to my friends they gave to me. $100 over invoice plus the $160 advertising fee.
My truck has 2700 miles on it I am averaging 15.7 MPG with the PSD. I love it. Having the linex installed pick it up tomorrow. T4F
you didn't indicate WHY you hate ford. most of us aren't brand "loyal" & therefore did the obvious "thing" & looked around b4 purchasing a big $$$ item. example, Dodge flunked out for us simply because they don't build a y2k CC. and although Chevy looks ok & may ride a little nicer their overall drive train technology is old. the same is true with Dodge. for us, Ford was the obvious choice for a number of reasons. first, they're frequency of repair was slightly better. their drive train technology is more current. and they build an AWESOME CC... largest (by far) that we've seen. what finally sold us though; was taking pictures of all 3 undercarriages in the F350 equivalent line. you can NOT believe the difference between the SD & the other "regular" chassis. why? because Ford builds "down" from their larger trucks... while Dodge & Chevy build "up" from the smaller (F150 equivalent) ones.
take time4family's advice & sell NOW to return the best price as ALL configurations for this vehicle are in high demand (& in my humble opinion, for good reasons... some of which we're aforementioned).
See post 18 on this forum on how to check the VOPC status directly from the factory.. Do NOT select any options that will direct you to a real person.. The VOPC is really intended for dealers only, and I would hate for general access to get revoked because we are bothering the real people manning the phones..
Also, read this whole forum and you'll get a good idea of what the different codes/terminlogy means.
Since my status for some reason changed from "locked" to "scheduled" I thought I would ask this question. Why order the limited slip differential with four wheel drive? I figured with 4WD I wouldn't need the LS.
I ordered the LS and the 4x4. My thought process was I pull a boat and ramps can be slippery. I have found that I havn't needed the 4x4 so far. (no snow yet) The LS is enough to get me up the ramp without any slippage. It would be good if you drive on slippery roads(dirt gravel etc...) I plan to only use the 4x4 in very bad conditions (snow, mud) when in 4 wheel drive your MPG goes down slightly so the LS will help when things are marginal. T4F
Thanks to Bess for the prompt reply. However I still have some unanswered questions. The day of my order (10/8/99), I was given a computer generated sheet called (Vehicle Order Confirmation). It has all the info on my truck as ordered, including price,options,order #, priority #, etc. However the form referred to on this forum is called DORA (Dealer Order Receipt Acknowledgement). Is this a different form? Also, since I have not received a VIN# and any other information concerning my order can I use the VOPC system to check progress of my truck? Also does anyone have a feeling as to the loss of milage or any other drawbacks to having the (Shift on the Fly) option verus Manual Hubs and lever in the cab? Any and all assistance would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.
My status has not been updated since 11/5. Interestingly, it went from "locked for production week of 11/8" to "scheduled for build week of 11/8." This was also the same time they changed my arrival date from week of 11/22 to week of 11/29.
t4f - thanks for the reply
sprintnut- I received the same form when I ordered on 10/6. I called the dealer about two weeks later and got a VIN. You can check status without a VIN by using the dealer code (even needed with the VIN), the order number and the body type. Basically, all the information you need to check status is on the form you got when you ordered. See post 588 in Super Duty II.
I ordered a F250 SD back in June of 99. It is a diesel with the crew cab. We do not have a build date on it yet and we were told it will still be a while. Is there anything I can do to expedite the delivery, can I call a department in Ford to complain. Any suggestions?
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I know how to convert alpha characters to numerical. I want to know what is the significant meaning of each number or character?
My VOPC message this morning, "as of Nov. 6, your vehicle was released from the plant." Yippe-kay-yay-yaaa! ETA Nov. 19.
SeeeeeeeeeeYa all later!!
"I dont see any reason not to have a vin no, right after its orderd"
The reason is simple: the dealer doesn't have an allocation. You were very fortunate indeed to have ordered from a dealer that had an immediate allocation for the truck you ordered, and your order was therefore scheduled quickly. Your experience was the exception rather than the rule. It's unreasonable to expect that every order will be treated as yours was (although it would be nice).
Dave
I did order the pop up tie downs from Bullaccessories today. Once I get them ...install them....I will report back with info....They were 29.95 a set.
Update on my truck: F250sd cc 4x4 lwb, V-10, xlt
Locked in for production Nov 22, (ordered July 27)
I can almost taste it.....
Good luck.
a few VIN's are issued with the DORA but this is also the exception. however; you can be assured that if you are not scheduled (a VIN will have been issued b4 then) within a month or so of order then that's a strong case for allotment problems. I now believe that valid DORA info can be received even if an allotment problem exists at the dealer for your config at the time of order. some dealers will place the order even though they already have the problem (& note that the salesperson may not be aware of this... but the sales manager more than likely IS aware). others will not even place the order (or will place it with priority 99) until they have allotment for your config.
in any case, the beast doesn't get scheduled until the entire truck is in inventory AND the dealer has allotment for your specific config. so it's obvious that EITHER of these issues can hold up scheduling. however; if you're not even scheduled after a month wait?... as aforementioned; it's the allotment issue that's is more than likely holding things up.
and Ford's not building v10's 'til 02/00? does THAT really make sense? the only reason I'd say they're not building is because they don't need any (a highly unlikely scenario)! as why'd they cut their own throats by not building one of their most popular options as doesn't that kind of seem like it would hold up a whole bunch of truck schedules? would seem so to me.
Does anybody have the 2K Crew cab Lariat package? Do the rear doors have the woodgrain trim on them? I can't wait to slide a CD into the dash and ride in my Cowboy Cadillac!
Position #8 on my VIN matches the "S=V-10" formula. (And I said I'd never use algebra!)
RE towing mirrors - I don't know how long they will be offering both the telescoping and non-telescoping towing mirrors. As of right now you can order either
54Y=non-telescoping
54E=telescoping
Has anybody with a recent delivery ordered the 54Y and received telescoping mirrors? If so that may be a sign.
Also the newer mirrors (54E) are really great, they can slide inward and outward without any tools required.
The one area that will notice a significant distance is at altitudes. The gas engines lose about 10% of their power for every 1,000 feet over a certain altitude (I don't remember where the 10% drop starts). A diesel won't lose any power until you start climbing above 10,000 feet. I believe Ford has a high altitude package for the V-10, which helps the engine maintain full power up to 4,000 feet or so.
Rail delays impact all manufacturers, not just the ones with factorys in KY.
The $34,000+ MSRP quoted awhile back doesn't seem excessive. The truck obviously had more options than the one Crazyelvis bought, since his truck had a MSRP in the $30,000 range. My truck had a MSRP window sticker of around $35,200 and a dealer invoice of around $30,600. My truck is:
99 F-350 SD SC 4x4 V-10 dually Lariat, 4.30 l/s axle ratio, auto trans, trailer tow, camper pkg, Class IV hitch, trailer tow mirrors, privacy glass, all-terrain tires and matching spare.
Bruno... that's a good point about the v10, 4.3 diff ratio. if one opts for the 4.3 then this will give considerably more "oomph" than the stock 3.73 using that same engine. this just may be enough for some to allow them to keep the gasser (and if you can keep the foot off the accelerator a little the mileage will not appreciably suffer either).
& the 8th position of the VIN IS obviously the engine code as ours is "F" (we've ordered the psd).
F-250 or 350/CC/4X4/V10/3.73/auto = 10,400
F-250 or 250/CC/4X4/V10/4.30/auto = 13,400
F-250 or 350/CC/4X4/PSD/3.73/auto = 13,000
Why does Ford called the trailer mirrors "telescoping" when they're not functional?
Call me crazy and stupid for buying a Ford if i hate Ford so much. yep....
The title at the top says " Vehicle Order Confirmation ). Is this the DORA that has been mentioned in this conference or is there another form?
I have yet to get any other info from the dealer such as build date, delivery date, Vin #, etc.
Am I being mislead and if so what should I do to make sure this order is really in process?
Tabs what are the fees you guys are paying. (License fees) We just passed a tab tax to reduce it to $30 here in washington. When I picked up my truck (9/15) I was shocked at the $769 tab fee. Can't wait till next year for the $30. renewel.
I read all kinds of prices out there but the bottom line is I bought mine from Pioneer Ford in Lynden Wa. They have 2 on the lot and the dealer told me last week they would give the same deal to my friends they gave to me. $100 over invoice plus the $160 advertising fee.
My truck has 2700 miles on it I am averaging 15.7 MPG with the PSD. I love it. Having the linex installed pick it up tomorrow.
T4F
take time4family's advice & sell NOW to return the best price as ALL configurations for this vehicle are in high demand (& in my humble opinion, for good reasons... some of which we're aforementioned).
Do NOT select any options that will direct you to a real person.. The VOPC is really intended for dealers only, and I would hate for general access to get revoked because we are bothering the real people manning the phones..
Also, read this whole forum and you'll get a good idea of what the different codes/terminlogy means.
Also does anyone have a feeling as to the loss of milage or any other drawbacks to having the (Shift on the Fly) option verus Manual Hubs and lever in the cab?
Any and all assistance would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.
t4f - thanks for the reply
sprintnut- I received the same form when I ordered on 10/6. I called the dealer about two weeks later and got a VIN. You can check status without a VIN by using the dealer code (even needed with the VIN), the order number and the body type. Basically, all the information you need to check status is on the form you got when you ordered. See post 588 in Super Duty II.