Hi, Need info on 2016 Honda Civic EX 12K, 36 or 39 month lease. Need the MF, Residual % and any other information to help me negotiate the lease (% or $ under MSRP that a dealer may take - how low can I go...). The MSRP including destination on the sticker is $21,875. I am in New Jersey.
Hi, Need info on 2016 Honda Civic EX 12K, 36 or 39 month lease. Need the MF, Residual % and any other information to help me negotiate the lease (% or $ under MSRP that a dealer may take - how low can I go...). The MSRP including destination on the sticker is $21,875. I am in New Jersey.
.00083 and 62% for 36/15. Subtract 2% for 39 months. Add 2% for 12k
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Thanks for all the information so far everyone. I am currently negotiating with a dealer on behalf of my girlfriend who would like to lease a 2016 Civic LX. They provided the overall lowest sales price out of all the dealers I spoke with. We have come to the following numbers, but the monthly payment does not seem to be making sense to me when I run it through the various online lease calculators (it seems their calculation of the monthly payment is higher than what all the calculators come to). I believe there may be hidden fees somewhere between the breakdown and the final monthly payment that are increasing the monthly payment. They told me the MF is 0.00083 and RV is $12,445 (which I think they are wrong, everything I've seen says 64% which would be $12,976 based on the MSRP, correct?)
Car: 2016 Civic LX Lease term/miles: 36mo/12k mi MSRP: $20,275 Sales Price: $16,491 Freight/Destination: $835 Processing Fee: $599 Tax (6% Baltimore, MD): $1075.5 Tag: $69.75 VA Business Tax: 30.47 Net Price: $19,100.72 Location of Dealer: Virginia
When I run all those same numbers though leaseguide.com, I come up with:
MSRP: $20,275 Base Cap Cost: $16,491 Costs Added to Lease: $2,609 (I put the Freight/Destination, Processing Fee, MD Tax, Tag, and VA Business Tax from above into this field) Adjusted Cap Cost: $19,100 Residual Value: $12,976 Money Factor: .00083 Term: 36mo Sales Tax: 6%
Monthly Payment = $188.41+$11.30 tax=$199.71
So how does the leaseguide calculator come up with $199.71 and the dealership came up with $235? That is a pretty significant difference and I would like to figure it out before we go back to the dealership. I would appreciate any response!
Thanks for all the information so far everyone. I am currently negotiating with a dealer on behalf of my girlfriend who would like to lease a 2016 Civic LX. They provided the overall lowest sales price out of all the dealers I spoke with. We have come to the following numbers, but the monthly payment does not seem to be making sense to me when I run it through the various online lease calculators (it seems their calculation of the monthly payment is higher than what all the calculators come to). I believe there may be hidden fees somewhere between the breakdown and the final monthly payment that are increasing the monthly payment. They told me the MF is 0.00083 and RV is $12,445 (which I think they are wrong, everything I've seen says 64% which would be $12,976 based on the MSRP, correct?)
Car: 2016 Civic LX Lease term/miles: 36mo/12k mi MSRP: $20,275 Sales Price: $16,491 Freight/Destination: $835 Processing Fee: $599 Tax (6% Baltimore, MD): $1075.5 Tag: $69.75 VA Business Tax: 30.47 Net Price: $19,100.72 Location of Dealer: Virginia
When I run all those same numbers though leaseguide.com, I come up with:
MSRP: $20,275 Base Cap Cost: $16,491 Costs Added to Lease: $2,609 (I put the Freight/Destination, Processing Fee, MD Tax, Tag, and VA Business Tax from above into this field) Adjusted Cap Cost: $19,100 Residual Value: $12,976 Money Factor: .00083 Term: 36mo Sales Tax: 6%
Monthly Payment = $188.41+$11.30 tax=$199.71
So how does the leaseguide calculator come up with $199.71 and the dealership came up with $235? That is a pretty significant difference and I would like to figure it out before we go back to the dealership. I would appreciate any response!
If tax is in the CAP cost, why are you adding it again? Tax in Maryland is applied to the full purchase price. The monthly payment isn't taxed.
At 64% residual and .00083 MF (which are correct), the payment is $196.74/mo.
So, something isn't right... start with the residual. Either they are using an incorrect residual, or the MSRP isn't what you think it is.
If tax is in the CAP cost, why are you adding it again? Tax in Maryland is applied to the full purchase price. The monthly payment isn't taxed.
At 64% residual and .00083 MF (which are correct), the payment is $196.74/mo.
So, something isn't right... start with the residual. Either they are using an incorrect residual, or the MSRP isn't what you think it is.
Good catch, thanks. This is my first time dealing with a lease so I'm still trying to wrap my head around the calculations. I just double checked both the paperwork from the dealership and the Honda website. The Honda website says: "MSRP $20,275.00. Option to purchase at lease end $12,976.00." So I'm fairly certain I have the MSRP and RV correct in the calculations. After doing the manual math again without including tax twice, I came to $196.73, which is only a penny off from your calculation.
One thing I don't see anywhere in the dealer paperwork is the acquisition fee. Honda says it should have a $595 acquisition fee. Not sure if that somehow magically got calculated into their monthly calculation, or if they were planning to spring that on us later on. Their sheet goes straight from net cap of $19,100.72 to $235/mo. Even when I add the acquisition fee to the net cap it comes out to $213.76 in my calculations.
I'm truly baffled as to how they are coming up with the monthly payment.
If tax is in the CAP cost, why are you adding it again? Tax in Maryland is applied to the full purchase price. The monthly payment isn't taxed.
At 64% residual and .00083 MF (which are correct), the payment is $196.74/mo.
So, something isn't right... start with the residual. Either they are using an incorrect residual, or the MSRP isn't what you think it is.
Good catch, thanks. This is my first time dealing with a lease so I'm still trying to wrap my head around the calculations. I just double checked both the paperwork from the dealership and the Honda website. The Honda website says: "MSRP $20,275.00. Option to purchase at lease end $12,976.00." So I'm fairly certain I have the MSRP and RV correct in the calculations. After doing the manual math again without including tax twice, I came to $196.73, which is only a penny off from your calculation.
One thing I don't see anywhere in the dealer paperwork is the acquisition fee. Honda says it should have a $595 acquisition fee. Not sure if that somehow magically got calculated into their monthly calculation, or if they were planning to spring that on us later on. Their sheet goes straight from net cap of $19,100.72 to $235/mo. Even when I add the acquisition fee to the net cap it comes out to $213.76 in my calculations.
I'm truly baffled as to how they are coming up with the monthly payment.
Start with the residual. Dealers can't alter residuals.
May I please have residual values for a Civic EX and EX-T for SoCal and the MF value for an individual with above 700 credit? Also, are there any incentives?
I'm looking to crunch some numbers now and hopefully make a deal this summer. I'm assuming the residual values may change in the next 3 months right?
May I please have residual values for a Civic EX and EX-T for SoCal and the MF value for an individual with above 700 credit? Also, are there any incentives?
I'm looking to crunch some numbers now and hopefully make a deal this summer. I'm assuming the residual values may change in the next 3 months right?
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Current numbers are .00083 and 62% for both trims, 36 months, 15,000 miles per year. These numbers are set to expire on 5/2/16.
Both MF and residual are likely to change in the next few months, so any calculations you make today will be obsolete then.
Robertson Honda in Torrance is discounting Civic EXL - NAV by $3225.00. There must be dealer incentives that are not advertised, Seems like a fair deal.
May I have 2016 Civic Ex-T Residuals & MF in Tennessee. 12k/36. Thanks. A couple of quick questions: will these figures likely change much in April, and is the residual calculated on MSRP not actual selling price? Many thanks.
May I have 2016 Civic Ex-T Residuals & MF in Tennessee. 12k/36. Thanks. A couple of quick questions: will these figures likely change much in April, and is the residual calculated on MSRP not actual selling price? Many thanks.
.00083 MF and 64% residual.
Program is scheduled to run through 05/02
Residual percentage is applied to the full MSRP (bottom line on the government required window sticker).
.00073 MF and 62% residual for ZERO due at signing lease.
If the selling price was the CAP cost, then $185/mo.+tax.
Obviously, you have more costs added in.. $595 acq.fee, etc.
What is the adjusted CAP cost?
Tax is 7%. The additional fees I'm told that's baked in are first month payment, taxes, registration fee, doc fee, bank fee, tire fee (this is something apparently new since January where they charge $7.5).
I'll see if I can get the adjusted CAP. It seems like they are adding $1400 more. Do Honda dealers typically waive any of these fees?
.00073 MF and 62% residual for ZERO due at signing lease.
If the selling price was the CAP cost, then $185/mo.+tax.
Obviously, you have more costs added in.. $595 acq.fee, etc.
What is the adjusted CAP cost?
Tax is 7%. The additional fees I'm told that's baked in are first month payment, taxes, registration fee, doc fee, bank fee, tire fee (this is something apparently new since January where they charge $7.5).
I'll see if I can get the adjusted CAP. It seems like they are adding $1400 more. Do Honda dealers typically waive any of these fees?
They are not waived. Either imposed by the bank or the state.
I wanted to get some assistance from a quote I got for a 2016 Honda Civic Touring. I currently have a Honda lease which I will be trading in for the 2016.
My current lease: 2014 Honda Civic Coupe Miles: 20,376 Terms: 36 months - $269/mo - 12k mi/yr # of payments left: 9 Down payment: taxes, fees, registration (don't remember the total, but I put $0 down other than those fees)
2016 Honda Civic Touring Quote: Terms: 36 months - $290/mo (tax included) - 12k mi/yr Total Due at signing: $2000 (includes taxes, fees, registration, and some down payment) Residual: 60% Money Factor: .00083
Am I getting a good deal? Do I have any equity in the car that I'm leasing now? Should I be paying a little less since I'm trading in my current lease?
I wanted to get some assistance from a quote I got for a 2016 Honda Civic Touring. I currently have a Honda lease which I will be trading in for the 2016.
My current lease: 2014 Honda Civic Coupe Miles: 20,376 Terms: 36 months - $269/mo - 12k mi/yr # of payments left: 9 Down payment: taxes, fees, registration (don't remember the total, but I put $0 down other than those fees)
2016 Honda Civic Touring Quote: Terms: 36 months - $290/mo (tax included) - 12k mi/yr Total Due at signing: $2000 (includes taxes, fees, registration, and some down payment) Residual: 60% Money Factor: .00083
Am I getting a good deal? Do I have any equity in the car that I'm leasing now? Should I be paying a little less since I'm trading in my current lease?
Thanks!
No idea about equity in your current vehicle. Is the quote on the new dependent on the dealer taking it in trade? If so, ask them about your equity (trade allowance minus payoff) or shortfall.
As far as the quote? Need MSRP, selling price/CAP cost to evaluate it.
Advice: Don't try to get out of your lease early. It's cheap and you are under on miles.
I wanted to get some assistance from a quote I got for a 2016 Honda Civic Touring. I currently have a Honda lease which I will be trading in for the 2016.
My current lease: 2014 Honda Civic Coupe Miles: 20,376 Terms: 36 months - $269/mo - 12k mi/yr # of payments left: 9 Down payment: taxes, fees, registration (don't remember the total, but I put $0 down other than those fees)
2016 Honda Civic Touring Quote: Terms: 36 months - $290/mo (tax included) - 12k mi/yr Total Due at signing: $2000 (includes taxes, fees, registration, and some down payment) Residual: 60% Money Factor: .00083
Am I getting a good deal? Do I have any equity in the car that I'm leasing now? Should I be paying a little less since I'm trading in my current lease?
Thanks!
No idea about equity in your current vehicle. Is the quote on the new dependent on the dealer taking it in trade? If so, ask them about your equity (trade allowance minus payoff) or shortfall.
As far as the quote? Need MSRP, selling price/CAP cost to evaluate it.
Advice: Don't try to get out of your lease early. It's cheap and you are under on miles.
Hi kyfdx, yes that quote that I got is for trading in my current lease. Cap cost is 27,300. I wanted to renew my lease because the 2016 Civic is great, and I wanted a new car to hold me over until the Tesla Model 3 comes out thanks for the help.
Would you advise about the MF and RV for 2016 CIVIC EX-L and EX-L w/sensing for Long Island, NY for 36/12 and 36/15. Thanks. Also, is there any lease cash available?
Would you advise about the MF and RV for 2016 CIVIC EX-L and EX-L w/sensing for Long Island, NY for 36/12 and 36/15. Thanks. Also, is there any lease cash available?
36/15 numbers:
.00083 and 60% for EX-L and 58% for EX-L Sensing. Add 2% for 12K.
Hi All,
I wanted to get some assistance from a quote I got for a 2016 Honda Civic Touring. I currently have a Honda lease which I will be trading in for the 2016.
My current lease: 2014 Honda Civic Coupe
Miles: 20,376
Terms: 36 months - $269/mo - 12k mi/yr
# of payments left: 9
Down payment: taxes, fees, registration (don't remember the total, but I put $0 down other than those fees)
2016 Honda Civic Touring Quote:
Terms: 36 months - $290/mo (tax included) - 12k mi/yr
Total Due at signing: $2000 (includes taxes, fees, registration, and some down payment)
Residual: 60%
Money Factor: .00083
Am I getting a good deal? Do I have any equity in the car that I'm leasing now? Should I be paying a little less since I'm trading in my current lease?
Thanks!
Seems like a good deal. Especially for the touring. I have 5 payments left on my Hyundai lease and wish to trade it in towards a touring as well. I just don't understand the process of trading In a lease early. I have coworkers that do it all the time. One of them just want from Nissan to Honda with 4 payments left. And they didn't roll the payments in. And he isn't responsible for any fees. How is that so?
I wanted to get some assistance from a quote I got for a 2016 Honda Civic Touring. I currently have a Honda lease which I will be trading in for the 2016.
My current lease: 2014 Honda Civic Coupe Miles: 20,376 Terms: 36 months - $269/mo - 12k mi/yr # of payments left: 9 Down payment: taxes, fees, registration (don't remember the total, but I put $0 down other than those fees)
2016 Honda Civic Touring Quote: Terms: 36 months - $290/mo (tax included) - 12k mi/yr Total Due at signing: $2000 (includes taxes, fees, registration, and some down payment) Residual: 60% Money Factor: .00083
Am I getting a good deal? Do I have any equity in the car that I'm leasing now? Should I be paying a little less since I'm trading in my current lease?
Thanks!
Seems like a good deal. Especially for the touring. I have 5 payments left on my Hyundai lease and wish to trade it in towards a touring as well. I just don't understand the process of trading In a lease early. I have coworkers that do it all the time. One of them just want from Nissan to Honda with 4 payments left. And they didn't roll the payments in. And he isn't responsible for any fees. How is that so?
Any update on your deal?
Trading out of a lease early is the same as trading out of a loan early. You have a payoff amount and a trade value. Find out the payoff amount of your Hyundai by calling HFS; you can get the trade value by either checking out the "Real World Trade in Values" discussion here at Edmunds or by taking your car to CarMax for a quote that is valid for 7 days.
Trading out of a lease early is the same as trading out of a loan early. You have a payoff amount and a trade value. Find out the payoff amount of your Hyundai by calling HFS; you can get the trade value by either checking out the "Real World Trade in Values" discussion here at Edmunds or by taking your car to CarMax for a quote that is valid for 7 days.
Hey team! Can I get Civic Ex's residual and MF in Kansas City. 30/12k 32/12k 36/12k. Might need Missouri and Kansas. Hopefully not too much to ask for. Thank you in advance.
Hey team! Can I get Civic Ex's residual and MF in Kansas City. 30/12k 32/12k 36/12k. Might need Missouri and Kansas. Hopefully not too much to ask for. Thank you in advance.
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There are not many out there for the EX model also make sure to ask if the vehicle has a stop sale since their is an air bag recall
Car: 2016 Civic LX
Lease term/miles: 36mo/12k mi
MSRP: $20,275
Sales Price: $16,491
Freight/Destination: $835
Processing Fee: $599
Tax (6% Baltimore, MD): $1075.5
Tag: $69.75
VA Business Tax: 30.47
Net Price: $19,100.72
Location of Dealer: Virginia
Lease paperwork shows: $0 down, 36 mo lease/12k mi: $235/month payment.
When I run all those same numbers though leaseguide.com, I come up with:
MSRP: $20,275
Base Cap Cost: $16,491
Costs Added to Lease: $2,609 (I put the Freight/Destination, Processing Fee, MD Tax, Tag, and VA Business Tax from above into this field)
Adjusted Cap Cost: $19,100
Residual Value: $12,976
Money Factor: .00083
Term: 36mo
Sales Tax: 6%
Monthly Payment = $188.41+$11.30 tax=$199.71
So how does the leaseguide calculator come up with $199.71 and the dealership came up with $235? That is a pretty significant difference and I would like to figure it out before we go back to the dealership. I would appreciate any response!
At 64% residual and .00083 MF (which are correct), the payment is $196.74/mo.
So, something isn't right... start with the residual. Either they are using an incorrect residual, or the MSRP isn't what you think it is.
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One thing I don't see anywhere in the dealer paperwork is the acquisition fee. Honda says it should have a $595 acquisition fee. Not sure if that somehow magically got calculated into their monthly calculation, or if they were planning to spring that on us later on. Their sheet goes straight from net cap of $19,100.72 to $235/mo. Even when I add the acquisition fee to the net cap it comes out to $213.76 in my calculations.
I'm truly baffled as to how they are coming up with the monthly payment.
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May I please have residual values for a Civic EX and EX-T for SoCal and the MF value for an individual with above 700 credit? Also, are there any incentives?
I'm looking to crunch some numbers now and hopefully make a deal this summer. I'm assuming the residual values may change in the next 3 months right?
I love Edmunds' forums! Thanks!
Both MF and residual are likely to change in the next few months, so any calculations you make today will be obsolete then.
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A couple of quick questions: will these figures likely change much in April, and is the residual calculated on MSRP not actual selling price? Many thanks.
Program is scheduled to run through 05/02
Residual percentage is applied to the full MSRP (bottom line on the government required window sticker).
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State Ohio, Tax rate 7.5%
I don't know the adjusted cap cost.
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Civic LX 15K/36mo
MSRP: $20,275
Selling: $18,408
Residual: $12,570.70 (62%)
MF: 0.00073 (tier 1)
$0 down
$237/mo (tax included)
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If the selling price was the CAP cost, then $185/mo.+tax.
Obviously, you have more costs added in.. $595 acq.fee, etc.
What is the adjusted CAP cost?
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I'll see if I can get the adjusted CAP. It seems like they are adding $1400 more. Do Honda dealers typically waive any of these fees?
I'll see if I can get the adjusted CAP. It seems like they are adding $1400 more. Do Honda dealers typically waive any of these fees?
They are not waived. Either imposed by the bank or the state.
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I wanted to get some assistance from a quote I got for a 2016 Honda Civic Touring. I currently have a Honda lease which I will be trading in for the 2016.
My current lease: 2014 Honda Civic Coupe
Miles: 20,376
Terms: 36 months - $269/mo - 12k mi/yr
# of payments left: 9
Down payment: taxes, fees, registration (don't remember the total, but I put $0 down other than those fees)
2016 Honda Civic Touring Quote:
Terms: 36 months - $290/mo (tax included) - 12k mi/yr
Total Due at signing: $2000 (includes taxes, fees, registration, and some down payment)
Residual: 60%
Money Factor: .00083
Am I getting a good deal? Do I have any equity in the car that I'm leasing now? Should I be paying a little less since I'm trading in my current lease?
Thanks!
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As far as the quote? Need MSRP, selling price/CAP cost to evaluate it.
Advice: Don't try to get out of your lease early. It's cheap and you are under on miles.
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I certainly wouldn't want to put out $2000, plus $20/mo. more, rather than just waiting 9 months and looking again when your lease is up.
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honda doesn't offer 10k leases; 12k is the lowest mileage allowance
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.00083 and 60% for EX-L and 58% for EX-L Sensing. Add 2% for 12K.
No lease cash available on the new Civic.
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Any update on your deal?
Any update on your deal?
Trading out of a lease early is the same as trading out of a loan early. You have a payoff amount and a trade value. Find out the payoff amount of your Hyundai by calling HFS; you can get the trade value by either checking out the "Real World Trade in Values" discussion here at Edmunds or by taking your car to CarMax for a quote that is valid for 7 days.
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