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  • coppo110coppo110 Member Posts: 33
    If I order a car (2017 model) vs. taking one off the lot, what can I expect to pay in relation to the MSRP? And how does ordering typically work with a lease in regard to the residual and money factor? Do I negotiate at the time of order, or since delivery is 2-3 months out, do you wait until the car arrives? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515
    coppo110 said:

    If I order a car (2017 model) vs. taking one off the lot, what can I expect to pay in relation to the MSRP? And how does ordering typically work with a lease in regard to the residual and money factor? Do I negotiate at the time of order, or since delivery is 2-3 months out, do you wait until the car arrives? Thanks!

    Can't help you with pricing, but I would suspect that there would be a smaller discount from sticker on the 2017 versus an in-stock unit.

    Most brands allow you to either lock in the MF and residual when the order is placed, or use the MF and residual of the month when the car is delivered. Can't pick and choose.

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  • coppo110coppo110 Member Posts: 33
    Can someone confirm the money factor for the 2016 HSE and HSE Lux at 36/12? The quotes I got from the last three dealerships were .00275. Could they call be marking it up?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515
    coppo110 said:

    Can someone confirm the money factor for the 2016 HSE and HSE Lux at 36/12? The quotes I got from the last three dealerships were .00275. Could they call be marking it up?

    I show .00275 as the MF for all Discovery trims, terms from 33 to 48 months.

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  • camerica77camerica77 Member Posts: 1
    New to the forum, but this is an incredible thread! Thanks for being so helpful.

    I am looking at a 2016 Discovery Sport SE like this one.

    The dealer emailed me this lease quote. It doesn't seem like a good deal to me, but I wanted to see what everyone here thinks. It looks like people are pretty regularly getting $2-3k off MSRP.

    Let me know what you think a good lease deal would be on this vehicle. Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515

    New to the forum, but this is an incredible thread! Thanks for being so helpful.

    I am looking at a 2016 Discovery Sport SE like this one.

    The dealer emailed me this lease quote. It doesn't seem like a good deal to me, but I wanted to see what everyone here thinks. It looks like people are pretty regularly getting $2-3k off MSRP.

    Let me know what you think a good lease deal would be on this vehicle. Thanks in advance!

    I get the same payment.

    The only way to make this deal better is to negotiate a better selling price. We don't track that, but if others have posted a bigger discount from sticker, you may want to ask for the same.

    Any chance there are other LR dealers in SLC that you can get to compete against each other?

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  • sbindersbinder Member Posts: 2
    Starting my search for a Discovery SE that will sticker at 40.8K. Looking for 48 months/ 15K per year. Do the dealers deal? or is the lease based on the MSRP? What should I expect to get of the MSRP?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515
    sbinder said:

    Starting my search for a Discovery SE that will sticker at 40.8K. Looking for 48 months/ 15K per year. Do the dealers deal? or is the lease based on the MSRP? What should I expect to get of the MSRP?

    Use the "make / model / year" pull downs at the top of the page to link to the price tools.

    Also, read back through this forum to see what others have been able to negotiate.

    48/15 lease numbers on the SE are 51% and .00275

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  • sbindersbinder Member Posts: 2
    Thanks Michael.... now tell (dumb) me where to plug in the lease numbers??
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515
    sbinder said:

    Thanks Michael.... now tell (dumb) me where to plug in the lease numbers??

    Build your own lease calculator here

    http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/calculate-your-own-lease-payment.html

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  • volvohnovolvohno Member Posts: 38
    What is the June MF/Residual on a Discovery Sport HSE? 36/15
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515
    volvohno said:

    What is the June MF/Residual on a Discovery Sport HSE? 36/15

    58% and .00104

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  • gregoire1012gregoire1012 Member Posts: 18
    I was hoping to see the Residual/MF for 2016 DIscovery Sport HSE Lux...24, 33 and 36 w/10000 miles, Thanks so much
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515

    I was hoping to see the Residual/MF for 2016 DIscovery Sport HSE Lux...24, 33 and 36 w/10000 miles, Thanks so much

    24/10 - 64% and .00204
    33/10 - 59% and .00056
    36/10 - 58% and .00068

    (hint: skip the 24 month term)

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  • gregoire1012gregoire1012 Member Posts: 18
    Thanks Michael....Hoping to lease either the Disco or Evoque this weekend...Any word about July numbers?
    Thanks again...have a happy 4th
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515

    Thanks Michael....Hoping to lease either the Disco or Evoque this weekend...Any word about July numbers?
    Thanks again...have a happy 4th

    No insight on the numbers for next month ...

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  • gregoire1012gregoire1012 Member Posts: 18
    I just talked with my dealer and he told me about a certified pre owned Discovery Sport that they just got in. According to him I would be able to lease it. Any thoughts about this? Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 223,715

    I just talked with my dealer and he told me about a certified pre owned Discovery Sport that they just got in. According to him I would be able to lease it. Any thoughts about this? Thanks

    No insight on CPO leases, sorry.

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  • akelaonakelaon Member Posts: 32
    Hi, Could you please let me know the current residuals and MF for a 2016 Discovery Sport SE and HSE models for a 36 months/ 12k miles per year lease in Texas. Any lease incentives?

    Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 223,715
    akelaon said:

    Hi, Could you please let me know the current residuals and MF for a 2016 Discovery Sport SE and HSE models for a 36 months/ 12k miles per year lease in Texas. Any lease incentives?

    Thank you.

    We don't have the new Land Rover program, yet. Hopefully, later this week.

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  • gregoire1012gregoire1012 Member Posts: 18
    Has there been any word about July rates for the Discovery Sport? Interested in an HSE or HSE Lux for 36/10...if that looks like the best rate....Thanks!!!!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 223,715

    Has there been any word about July rates for the Discovery Sport? Interested in an HSE or HSE Lux for 36/10...if that looks like the best rate....Thanks!!!!!

    HSE: .00054 MF and 60% residual
    LUX: .00016 MF and 56% residual

    36 months is the best term.

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  • gregoire1012gregoire1012 Member Posts: 18
    Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • gregoire1012gregoire1012 Member Posts: 18
    I still haven't leased a new Discovery Sport. Is there a $1000 incentive available now? Also, what are the August rates for the HSE and HSE Lux for 36/10 or whatever term looks like the best deal. Thanks again
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515

    I still haven't leased a new Discovery Sport. Is there a $1000 incentive available now? Also, what are the August rates for the HSE and HSE Lux for 36/10 or whatever term looks like the best deal. Thanks again

    HSE - 60% and .00054
    HSE Lux - 56% and .00016

    No incentive information

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  • jay1215jay1215 Member Posts: 1
    Could you let me know August rates (MF & Residuals) in Ohio for the Discovery Sport SE and HSE for 36/12 and 36/15?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 223,715
    jay1215 said:

    Could you let me know August rates (MF & Residuals) in Ohio for the Discovery Sport SE and HSE for 36/12 and 36/15?

    SE: .00108 MF and 58% residual
    HSE: .00054 MF and 57% residual

    Add 2% for 12K/yr

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  • goffelgoffel Member Posts: 14
    Im looking for rates for the '16 Discovery Sport SE in California. 36/10 + 33/10.. Much appreciated! :)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 223,715
    goffel said:

    Im looking for rates for the '16 Discovery Sport SE in California. 36/10 + 33/10.. Much appreciated! :)

    Sorry, haven't seen the September programs, yet. Hopefully, next week.

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  • asp2m72asp2m72 Member Posts: 1
    I am looking for rates for '16 Discovery Sport lease. 33/12 & 36/12. HSE & HSE Lux

    Thanks in advance for the information.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515
    asp2m72 said:

    I am looking for rates for '16 Discovery Sport lease. 33/12 & 36/12. HSE & HSE Lux

    Thanks in advance for the information.

    33/12
    HSE - 61% and .00014
    HSE Lux - 58% and .00003

    36/12
    HSE - 58% and .00025
    HSE Lux - 55% and .00016

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  • mastertklmastertkl Member Posts: 18
    Hi, I am interested in the residual & mf for a 2016 Discovery Sport SE lease for 33/10k & 36/10k. I am located in Miami, FL. Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515
    mastertkl said:

    Hi, I am interested in the residual & mf for a 2016 Discovery Sport SE lease for 33/10k & 36/10k. I am located in Miami, FL. Thank you!

    33/10 62% and .00029
    36/10 59% and .00040

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  • gobills2016gobills2016 Member Posts: 25
    I am in the final stages of negotiation for a 2016 discovery sport SE outside of Buffalo, NY.

    MSRP - 42,733 (includes $995 dest & delivery)
    Dealer is providing $3300 in incentives
    $2500 down
    33 months, 10K miles
    Residual 0.62
    MF 0.00059
    $439 a month

    My math is showing it to be $382.04 w/ 8% NY tax rolled into monthly payments.

    I ran the TMV through Edmunds and found the car to be $40416 before discounts. Dealer has been quite cooperative with me thus far in trying to make a deal. I just want it to be fair.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515

    I am in the final stages of negotiation for a 2016 discovery sport SE outside of Buffalo, NY.

    MSRP - 42,733 (includes $995 dest & delivery)
    Dealer is providing $3300 in incentives
    $2500 down
    33 months, 10K miles
    Residual 0.62
    MF 0.00059
    $439 a month

    My math is showing it to be $382.04 w/ 8% NY tax rolled into monthly payments.

    I ran the TMV through Edmunds and found the car to be $40416 before discounts. Dealer has been quite cooperative with me thus far in trying to make a deal. I just want it to be fair.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks!

    MF is marked up; base is .00029

    What does the $2500 cover?

    What is the net cap cost?

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  • gobills2016gobills2016 Member Posts: 25
    I mentioned that the base MF is .00029 to which dealer responded "right now we are losing $450 on the front of the car so we have to make it up somewhere so therefor our buy rate is .00059"

    Net cap cost is 39665.

    2500 covers most of taxes and fees and first payment.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515

    I mentioned that the base MF is .00029 to which dealer responded "right now we are losing $450 on the front of the car so we have to make it up somewhere so therefor our buy rate is .00059"

    Net cap cost is 39665.

    2500 covers most of taxes and fees and first payment.

    That's often the case ... either a big discount from sticker or the base MF.

    Any other LR dealers you can check with? Only takes one to make a deal where you get both.

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  • gobills2016gobills2016 Member Posts: 25
    Yes, I've been connecting with other dealerships. Can you double check my math just so I know if those numbers check out?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515

    Yes, I've been connecting with other dealerships. Can you double check my math just so I know if those numbers check out?

    I'm getting roughly the same payment the dealer is ... $438/mo

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  • tsak31324tsak31324 Member Posts: 10
    Looking to lease a '16 HSE or Lux, and wanting to see what the current MF and Residual are in SC.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 223,715
    tsak31324 said:

    Looking to lease a '16 HSE or Lux, and wanting to see what the current MF and Residual are in SC.

    36/15

    HSE: .00025 MF and 56% residual
    Lux: .00016 MF and 53% residual

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  • tsak31324tsak31324 Member Posts: 10
    How about for 33/12 and 36/12? I received one quote on a 2016 HSE for MF of .00034 and 61% residual for 33/12. It seemed kind of high, but the Finance Mgr stated that these are the going rates. I told him that I would let him know ....
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 223,715
    tsak31324 said:

    How about for 33/12 and 36/12? I received one quote on a 2016 HSE for MF of .00034 and 61% residual for 33/12. It seemed kind of high, but the Finance Mgr stated that these are the going rates. I told him that I would let him know ....

    Add 2% to go from 15K/yr to 12K/yr.

    HSE 33/12: .00014 MF and 61% residual

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  • tsak31324tsak31324 Member Posts: 10
    Thank you for the information, I appreicate it. I spoke with the finance manager and their figures were all over the place. Now I just have to find one that fits at our budget. He even went on to tell me that for someone to provide this information to me is "illegal". I said, ok :)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515
    tsak31324 said:

    Thank you for the information, I appreicate it. I spoke with the finance manager and their figures were all over the place. Now I just have to find one that fits at our budget. He even went on to tell me that for someone to provide this information to me is "illegal". I said, ok :)

    Never heard that before ... should I expect the police to be knocking on my door? :wink:

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  • tsak31324tsak31324 Member Posts: 10
    That's what I was thinking .... Finance guy gave me these figures ....

    2016 Disc HSE Lux
    Sticker = $51153.00
    Discount = $4900.00
    Sales Price = $46253.00
    GATAVT (Georgia non-sense) = $3167.71
    Tag/Title = $100
    Doc = $199
    33/12 = $511/mo with $3500 down
    He finally said that residual is 61% and MF = 0.00060
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515
    tsak31324 said:

    That's what I was thinking .... Finance guy gave me these figures ....

    2016 Disc HSE Lux
    Sticker = $51153.00
    Discount = $4900.00
    Sales Price = $46253.00
    GATAVT (Georgia non-sense) = $3167.71
    Tag/Title = $100
    Doc = $199
    33/12 = $511/mo with $3500 down
    He finally said that residual is 61% and MF = 0.00060

    What is the adjusted cap cost, with all fees and taxes added in, less the $3500 up front?

    And, as you can see, the MF is marked up.

    Are there any other dealers you can reach out to? The competition will help you get a better deal.

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  • tsak31324tsak31324 Member Posts: 10
    Attached is the "Deal Sheet" ... no dealer/vehicle/personal information included ...
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515
    tsak31324 said:

    Attached is the "Deal Sheet" ... no dealer/vehicle/personal information included ...

    Let's leave the up front cash out of the equation for a moment.

    Using the MSRP and "balance forward" prices, along with the .00060 MF and 61% residual, I get $557/mo.

    Every $1000 the balance forward is reduced, the payment should come down about $30/mo (1000 / 33).

    Be polite and ask for the adjusted cap cost ... there may be some other fees added in (acquisition fee) that are being added in and not disclosed.

    The math is easy, once you have all the numbers. Dealers, as you are seeing, are not interested in providing them.

    Knowledge is power.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 230,515
    Michaell said:

    tsak31324 said:

    Attached is the "Deal Sheet" ... no dealer/vehicle/personal information included ...

    Let's leave the up front cash out of the equation for a moment.

    Using the MSRP and "balance forward" prices, along with the .00060 MF and 61% residual, I get $557/mo.

    Every $1000 the balance forward is reduced, the payment should come down about $30/mo (1000 / 33).

    Be polite and ask for the adjusted cap cost ... there may be some other fees added in (acquisition fee) that are being added in and not disclosed.

    The math is easy, once you have all the numbers. Dealers, as you are seeing, are not interested in providing them.

    Knowledge is power.
    Scratch that .. my calculations were based on 36 months, not 33.

    The base payment with your numbers is $603/mo using the higher MF; with the base MF of .00014, the payment drops to $566.

    The $30/mo reduction for each $1000 up front is correct, however.

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