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What is a plenum by the way?
note that my plan is the gold std plan as oppose to the gold preferred plan. so what's the difference?
taken from nissanusa website:
What's the difference between the Gold Preferred Plan and the Gold Plan?
The Gold Preferred Plan offers all the coverage of the Gold Plan plus 24-hour roadside assistance and trip-interruption reimbursement for meals, lodging and alternative transportation. You also receive an additional day's reimbursement (up to five days, not four) at up to $35 per day for car rental. In addition, the Gold Preferred Plan includes 17 different time and mileage options (the Gold Plan offers only nine options).
I admit that this is a rare quality, but customers think it's admirable. I bought a new 1996 Nissan Maxima from a good salesperson-and nothing but private-party used cars since.
What dbauer is saying, and he's absolutely correct, is that you can order anything you want, anywhere you want, save for the issue of CA emissions, but even that is becoming less of an issue.
Now, if your CA dealership wasn't interested in taking the chance of a car with a particular, possibly unusual, group of options, that's their choice. People slam dealers all the time with promises to take delivery of a car, only to change their minds without respect to the cost the dealer incurs, and get their money back. I wouldn't want to be stuck with a truck or car I couldn't sell, either, especially when dealing with the world of wishy-washy customers.
It isn't that they CAN'T do it, it's that they WON'T. This is easy like shooting fish in a barrel - order a car from out of state, take a couple days off, fly out and get it, and you're done.
Anyone who has actually driven a 2005 Frontier XE 5-speed manual, please post your impressions. There are many questions in this forum about this model. dbauer, your post #454 hints at you're having driven one...
the 4-cyl is potent enough with an auto...pretty nice...drove the manual and was VERY impressed! makes it almost worth not getting a v6. kinda reminds me of the altima...the 4 is powerful enough to not want to waste money on the 6. ;-)
Sorry to ask all these questions, but there are very few of these XE critters around, and none of them have Auto yet. Nissan USA doesn't even list the auto as available for me in the 92610, or in Ann Arbor (my Alma Mater) 48104.
i made a boo-boo. the 4-cyl is a manual, and the auto i drove last week wasnt a 4 cyl. my bad...lol.
but the manual we have is quite peppy if thats what you want.
Hey, is Nissan going to offer a keyless entry on the XE? Are there dealer-installed Accessories for it?
I still root for MSU when UM's BBall team can't get it done. Now, as to the Rose Bowl - still smarts.
im the same way with them...i root for both until they play each other. my brother lives outside louisville, and their rivalry isnt quite so calm.
lookin too by one in spring an I haven't had any input on the truck and i'm waiting for my dealer in NJ too call me asp.
Badness from NJ
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Will consider replacing the 99 Ranger sometime in the future. Only one car payment at a time please!
I don't own an '05 Frontier SE CC 6-Speed, but this truck is on my short list and I am dissapointed that you're hearing engine pinging with 87 Octane. The Chevy Colorado CC is also on my list and the Frontier will cost me an extra $400/Year in gasoline over the Coly. If I have to burn premium gas in the Fronty, the fuel cost will probably be too high for me to bear. I'd hoped that the Fronty's V-6 compression ratio (which is less than Taco) would work better with 87 Octane. Sigh.
Keep me posted. My wife's new Subaru should run fine on 87 Octane, but it pings too. With today's engines, it seems there's not much they can do except reflash the ECM and hope for the best.
I want my '80 Honda back. It'd run on No. 6 Fuel Oil. <g>
Asa
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http://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/ModelHomePage/0,,75450,00.html>
Leater package, 380 watt Rockford-audio, sunroof, limited slip diff., side airbags, bed extender, microfilter, floormats and tow package.
All for $27,500(incl. destination) Not TTL. According to the Edmunds site I got it for $428 over invoice. Bought in Alabama.
Can't compare to the Toco since they don't offer half of those options.
Hands down the Nissan is a better deal for the money...not to mention a more quiet and zippy ride. I have NO regrets.
Does the leather seating option give you an armrest other than the (IMHO) inadequate console?
LOVE THIS TRUCK FROM FLORIDA
i never get EPA estimates, but my sister always does.
EPA doesnt post false numbers. they actually test the vehicles under perfect conditions, and achieve the numbers you see.
At this point, I can almost rule out the Tacoma because of price...Toyota dealers do not like to negotiate. This is ashame because I drove a Tacoma and really liked the size & quality of the interior...it was significantly wider than the Colorado. I will visit a Nissan dealer today and compare the Frontier to the Colorado. I am very curious about the differences in engine power, interior size(if any) the width of the rear door openings (which on the pre '05 Frontiers is extremely tight) and overall quality between these two vehicles.
If Nissan makes a comparable offer to the Colorado pricing, it's a no brainer. However, if the Colorado is priced as low as I think it is, I may think twice.
These are the two trucks that I'm deciding upon too. Coly's rear legroom is better than Fronty's I think. (Coly is also an inch or so longer). GM's now offering a $2K rebate on Coly/Canyon, so the price is right and Coly's MPG is 4 to 5 MPG better in real-world driving. But, yep, Coly's interior is sadly cheap. Coly is close to being great; if only GM would spend a $100 more on the interior.
I didn't get a chance to test dirve the Fronty but I don't think I need to now. I really thought the interior of the crew cab would be a bit larger.
Goods:
1.silky smooth engine and transmission. This thing has a ton of power. Much faster than my brothers 04 F150 with 5.4 V8 (we did a short sprint test). Steering is very responsive.
2. Extremely quiet, even with roof rack (which i can't decide if i like or not). Drove up the coast, very windy and still whisper quiet (even with strong cross winds).
3. Great visibility, no blind spots
4. Leather very nice. I actually like the plain interior, it will be very easy to clean, nothing to get scratched up or show its age.
5. Other really small things: controls on steering wheel are very nice. Stereo is good(probably could do a little better with aftermarket, but I like a factory stereo to limit any theft), nice foot rest, well laid out controls, easy to see at night. I love the rims, they will be easy to clean (just got out of BMW, they have so much brake dust).
5. The bed system is really nice, had to move some things, worked out great. The sprayed on liner is a great touch.
6. Storage behind/under seats is very usefull. I was able to put some jumper cable/chain and some other things without trouble.
7. Sunroof is great, quiet even at highway speed.
8. To me the back seats are great, had some people back there and no one complained.
What I would change (just my opinion):
1. Chrome bumpers (I think will be out later).
2. The seats are very firm, not bad, I would make them softer ( I loved the Taco sport seat).
3. I would make the center arm rest adjustable. It isn't bad, very easy to get to cup holders, but I would make it sliding.
4. Air vents don't close completely (very picky)
What I would love to see Nissan do:
1. Add air vents to back passengers
2. Add power rear sliding window
3. Add turn signals to side mirrors.
Otherwise, this is an awesome truck. I also bought the extended warranty (gold, cost me $1080) that pretty much covers most things up to 100k or 6 yrs (and you are still well under what the Taco cost for less options). Only have 400 miles, but will definitely post any problems (it was raining this weekend, no leaks).
You mentioned that your Frontier is extremely quiet. Curious how it compared to the Taco in this area? I haven't test driven a Frontier yet, but the Taco was VERY LOUD when accelerating. It took me by suprise since Toyota usually does a good job at reducing noise in their vehicles.
I am with you on chrome front bumpers. Disappointed to see that they offer the LE Crew Cab only with painted bumpers, however, at least they offer it on the other trims. Of course Toyota has totally done away with them on the Tacoma. In my opinion chrome looks better and is more durable.
Unfortunately, there is no fix right now. The pathfinders are having the same issue, so hopefully it wont be long before there is.
The topper in question is fiberglass, with bug- screened sliding side windows and sliding front window. The really interesting tidbit is a "fold- down" hinge on the front window, allowing one to clean both the cab and topper sliding windows.
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Re: noise level in Tacoma: I test drove Tacoma and Frontier trucks. I did not find the Tacoma road noise to be objectionable, but I did notice immediately how quiet the Frontier was. When sitting still with engine off in the Tacoma, there was wind whistle inside the cab, all windows closed. It sounded almost as bad as an ancient Nova I used to drive, which had badly-deteriorated weatherstripping. The wind whistle seemed to be coming from the Access Cab windows, not the windshield or the main side windows.
Otherwise, this is indeed an awesome truck - worth the long wait.
Did anyone get a KING CAB LE 4 WD Yet??
tring too get some info on its in's and outs anyone have any info yet???
!! I AM A ORIGINAL CC CAB OWNER SINCE 1988. AND I LOVE THE FRONTIER.
THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE WITH THE CURRENT MODEL IS THE SPLIT WINDOW. I NEED ONE FOR LUMBER CARRYING.
I WILL WAITED FOR THE 06 OR LATER IN THE YEAR IF NISSAN DECIDE TO SPLIT THE BACK WINDOW. THAT IS THE ONLY DRAW BACK I HAVE. GUYS KEEP THE FRONTIER ALIVE, IS ONE OF THE BEST TRUCK BUILD ANYWHERE FOR THE PRIZE.
MY LOCAL DEALER IN ROCKLAND NY IS DOING INVOICE OR NEAR.