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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    That LTD is funny, extra digit in the price, you pick the digit. One of those in showroom condition with no more than a 4 digit mileage might hit 5K on a good day, you won't get there from here.

    I've noticed a lot of new 6 window Kia Optimas on the road, I suspect plenty of rental cars.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Didn't the 351 Windsor of that mid 70's era have a reputation for engine issues like head gaskets?
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    Didn't the 351 Windsor of that mid 70's era have a reputation for engine issues like head gaskets?

    Ford mileage is never mentioned. "All glass is good," he says, except for cracked windshield. LOL
    The 351 Windsor engines had troubles with the time chain/cogs wearing early. I had one at 65000 miles
    and was told if it had 60 on it, the gears were worn. I traded it for an Oldsmobile the day I got it back from the shop and swore I'd never own another Ford. LOL

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    Saw another X today, maybe the same dark blue one from the other day, or another one. It's a gigantic egg. I am not sure how the masses see this thing as so exciting and stylish.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,899
    fintail said:
    Saw another X today, maybe the same dark blue one from the other day, or another one. It's a gigantic egg. I am not sure how the masses see this thing as so exciting and stylish.
     I have to say that I'm surprised I haven't seen one yet here in Colorado, given how popular Teslas are. Big subsidies. 

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    Today I saw 2 Model X - white and blue. Not the same blue one from yesterday, this one was driven by a man who appeared to be texting while driving. Definitely a good use of subsidies, well-deserved.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,899
    fintail said:

    Today I saw 2 Model X - white and blue. Not the same blue one from yesterday, this one was driven by a man who appeared to be texting while driving. Definitely a good use of subsidies, well-deserved.

    I finally saw a model X today. At the Tesla showroom in the local mall. Had a sticker price of close to $140,000.

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  • tlongtlong Member Posts: 5,194
    Haven't seen an X yet. But the S's are all over the place here in California.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    I see at least a dozen a day here. Not even remarkable anymore, I now pay attention to their often BMW-like driving habits :)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    Almost swung into the jag dealer today to see an XE. But resisted the temptation.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Michaell said:

    fintail said:

    Today I saw 2 Model X - white and blue. Not the same blue one from yesterday, this one was driven by a man who appeared to be texting while driving. Definitely a good use of subsidies, well-deserved.

    I finally saw a model X today. At the Tesla showroom in the local mall. Had a sticker price of close to $140,000.
    Only $140K? Think of the money you'll save on gas! That baby will pay for itself in 100 years or so.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,899

    Michaell said:

    fintail said:

    Today I saw 2 Model X - white and blue. Not the same blue one from yesterday, this one was driven by a man who appeared to be texting while driving. Definitely a good use of subsidies, well-deserved.

    I finally saw a model X today. At the Tesla showroom in the local mall. Had a sticker price of close to $140,000.
    Only $140K? Think of the money you'll save on gas! That baby will pay for itself in 100 years or so.
    Base price was something like $85K .. first option on the Monroney is a $35K upcharge for the super duper battery pack.

    I was able to sit in it ... god forbid anyone get a chip in the windshield. I can't even begin to imagine how much that would cost to replace.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,313
    Michaell said:


    I was able to sit in it ... god forbid anyone get a chip in the windshield. I can't even begin to imagine how much that would cost to replace.


    If you have to ask how much, you can't afford one.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    Maybe there's a tax break for replacement ;)

    Didn't spot any X today, but the usual dozen S. A lot of them don't have a front plate (mandatory here), maybe selective enforcement.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,600
    Do you know anyone who has been ticketed for no front plate? They are mandatory here in California too. Neither my (OK, my wife's) Jag nor my Corvette has front plates, and the Vette was my daily driver for eight years. I have never even been stopped.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    edited April 2016
    I don't know anyone with a car that lacks one. WA people generally follow the rules no matter what. Maybe the badge wearers ignore it, as they seem to ignore crosswalk and turn signal enforcement in my area. Really sticks out to me though, I can't think of another model with such a frequent lack of front plate.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited May 2016
    bhill2 said:

    Do you know anyone who has been ticketed for no front plate? They are mandatory here in California too. Neither my (OK, my wife's) Jag nor my Corvette has front plates, and the Vette was my daily driver for eight years. I have never even been stopped.

    Yeah, ME. In Berkeley California, where writing tickets for fun and profit is approaching an Art Form. AND the car was parked, too.

    I swore that from that day forward I would never spend another dime in Berkeley, and I never have.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Okay, when we go to Spenger's, I'll drive....
  • slorenzenslorenzen Member Posts: 694
    stever said:

    Okay, when we go to Spenger's, I'll drive....

    Ah, Spenger's, takes me back(a LOOOONG way...).

    Are you sure they're no in Emeryville?

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    edited May 2016
    Went car browsing this morning - BMW prices amused me. $95K M4, M5 with a $9500 (I think) exhaust option, 650 cabrio at $125K. There was a cool dark blue on porcelain Alpina B6 Gran Coupe sitting on the side of the lot, NJ plates, I assume a manufacturer demo. Didn't spot any M2s, but they had a couple M235s, prices in the 50s I think.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited May 2016
    slorenzen said:

    stever said:

    Okay, when we go to Spenger's, I'll drive....

    Ah, Spenger's, takes me back(a LOOOONG way...).

    Are you sure they're no in Emeryville?

    Only in Berkeley afaik from looking at the net, but it's probably been a decade since we were last there. So-so ratings anymore, but I'd go just for the memories. That reminds me, bring me a loaf of bread when you get out this way @Mr_Shiftright. Be a nice shakedown trip for S2000. Boudin will be fine since Parisian got shut down (remember when you could get that in major airports?).
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    slorenzen said:

    stever said:

    Okay, when we go to Spenger's, I'll drive....

    Ah, Spenger's, takes me back(a LOOOONG way...).

    Are you sure they're no in Emeryville?

    Spenger's ain't what it used to be....sigh....but it is well clear of the black-booted thugs who write those tickets.

    It is, sadly, down to 2 stars on Yelp.

    It's actually in "West Berkeley".

    I doubt I'll ever go back there. Try Flying Fish Grill in Carmel.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,761
    I'll probably never see this again. An X6 towing a trailer with an I3 on it.
    Also, driving by a car dealer at night, a new MKZ(?) Continental'ish looking grille.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    reminds me of the day last year I saw a Cayanne towing a GT2 (or one of those racer models). Both white.

    I posted about it here, and someone actually knew who it was (Qbrozen maybe)

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    yup. Me. GT3, actually.

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  • tlongtlong Member Posts: 5,194
    Two Tesla Model S's today, and my first Model X. The X was distinctive but I wouldn't say super attractive. But it did catch my eye.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,761
    A white Lexus RC coupe. I liked it better than I thought I would, having only seen it previously in pictures.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    Got behind a new unplated SL400 today, the current 6cyl SL being the first in many years. I honked at it B) (fintail, loud horn), as it pulled out too close in front of me, then went 10 under and slowed to a crawl in an easy turn.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Member Posts: 4,277
    Saw my first Tesla SUV in the wild yesterday. Gun Metal Grey, looked pretty good.

    Neighbor got a new Honda Pilot, replaced a Buick Rainer (Trailblazer clone) Second new Honda for him this year (Accord Sport).
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    Seeing lots of new pilots and civics around here now especially civics.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Saw a new version white Malibu. Surprising thing was that it had a rental car barcode on it. I thought Chevy was using the old Malibu now marketed as Classic or some such for current rental car sales? Maybe a misread something.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,313
    Saw my first new Malibu parked on display at a dealer. I was moving along in traffic so I could not get a good look but it had some really ugly wheels on it - almost aftermarket-looking but I am pretty sure they are not. Petal-style spokes with black on the rim, almost like some Asian cars I've seen. Not good.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    I have seen a few new Malibu around, unfortunately, I think all were rental cars. I think there was supposed to be a "Malibu Limited", the old model, that was intended for fleets - same thing has happened with the Impala. I don't know if it became reality, I will have to keep an eye out for badging.

    Were these the petal wheels?

    image

    Not the best thing I've ever seen. Wheels with black trim like that became a trend a few years ago, and are still a thing, but aren't exactly an aesthetic triumph.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,121
    edited May 2016
    I think those rims are a step back from the all black craze, thankfully. Maybe just because I had one, but the 1st gen GTI had good looking rims with that treatment, IMO.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    One of my all time favorite cars.

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  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Member Posts: 4,277
    edited May 2016
    Ironically, I passed a company on my way to work this morning that was delivering (2) car carriers worth of new Rentibus, all silver, in the parking lot. Looks like a replacement fleet for them as the parking lot was full of Ford Focus hatchbacks, Fusions and older Rentibus.

    Oh, but there was (1) Chrysler 200 on the very front of the first carrier, perhaps someone mistook it for a Chevy...
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,313
    fintail said:


    Were these the petal wheels?

    image

    Not the best thing I've ever seen. Wheels with black trim like that became a trend a few years ago, and are still a thing, but aren't exactly an aesthetic triumph.

    That may well be them. I only got a quick look before I averted my gaze.

    They look nothing at all like the older GTI wheels @texases noted. Those at least did not break the rim into black and silver sections. That Malibu design treatment looks like it came straight out of some aftermarket discount wheel supplier catalog.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    BMW X1, fresh off the dealer's floor, dressed in ...ahem....Conspicuous Orange...? I dont' know the real name of the color but......no, please.....
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    That bugs me about those wheels too, how the lip is broken up by the black trim. Reminds me of aftermarket truck wheels.

    There are other "two tone" wheels offered on the car. These are much better (might be hybrid only?)

    image

    These normal wheels are also fine:

    image
    ab348 said:


    That may well be them. I only got a quick look before I averted my gaze.

    They look nothing at all like the older GTI wheels @texases noted. Those at least did not break the rim into black and silver sections. That Malibu design treatment looks like it came straight out of some aftermarket discount wheel supplier catalog.

  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,121
    edited May 2016
    I agree, I don't like those Malibu 'petal' wheels. Interesting how just a minor change really affects the looks. The Civic now being tested by Edmunds has wheels that also don't appeal to me (still, better than all black):

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    Malibu wheels for 2016 from catalogue.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited May 2016
    I don't see what's so bad about the rims for the LT2



    I saw a similar rim at Kroger a few minutes ago. It has a black interior to the rim.
    Is it offensive as well? It's on a Toyota.





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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,313


    I saw a similar rim at Kroger a few minutes ago. It has a black interior to the rim.
    Is it offensive as well? It's on a Toyota.



    Yes, at least to me. I would have to swap them.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,428
    my daughter's Jetta has the black inner part. I think they look really nice on the white car, and really set off the color well.


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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    Toyota truck, right? That's part of the problem to me.

    That Honda above is also iffy, like it's trying really hard to be hip. Some of these styles won't age well.

    I don't see what's so bad about the rims for the LT2


    I saw a similar rim at Kroger a few minutes ago. It has a black interior to the rim.
    Is it offensive as well? It's on a Toyota.




  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,761
    I really like these MKZ wheels.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,899
     What will age well, then?

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,313
    To be clear, I don't mind a black accent on the spokes. It is the blacking out of the rim adjacent to the tire that I don't like, especially if it is broken around the circumference.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,453
    Some wheel styles are "timeless" - old muscle car era rally wheels, several AMG wheels, etc, and some are just spokes that don't try hard to be trendy or cool. Those will age well. Even some modern-ish wheels like "fat five" Honda wheels from the 90s are classics now.

    The breaking up of the lip at the edge of the wheel, as ab348 mentions, bugs me too. I used to see it on lifted bro trucks, but it migrated to cars.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,899
    fintail said:
    Some wheel styles are "timeless" - old muscle car era rally wheels, several AMG wheels, etc, and some are just spokes that don't try hard to be trendy or cool. Those will age well. Even some modern-ish wheels like "fat five" Honda wheels from the 90s are classics now. The breaking up of the lip at the edge of the wheel, as ab348 mentions, bugs me too. I used to see it on lifted bro trucks, but it migrated to cars.
     Would love to see pictures of some examples… 

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