2016 Toyota Sienna Lease Questions

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    spumiami said:

    Hi, I live in the South Florida area. Yesterday I went to the Autonation Dealer (Weston) to see the Sienna SE and the XLE. They told me that the SE didn't had a good lease program, but the XLE does. They offer me the XLE for $489 (Tax of 6% included) with $489 due at signing 12K miles. I was wondering if I can get a similar deal for the SE (my wife prefers this model...) Thanks for the help!

    I only see a 1% difference in residual between the two trims. But, given this is SouthEast Toyota, there may be a special program available on the XLE.

    Negotiate your best price on the SE and we can run the numbers.

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  • trcb777trcb777 Member Posts: 7
    Michaell said:
    Will the residuals change on May 1st?  Looking at the XLE or SE 36/12k Georgia.

    Thanks!  
    Current Toyota residuals are valid until July 5th
    Hi, what are the current residuals and mf in Georgia on the XLE and SE 36/12k.  

    Thanks.  
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    trcb777 said:


    Michaell said:

    trcb777 said:

    Will the residuals change on May 1st?  Looking at the XLE or SE 36/12k Georgia.

    Thanks!  

    Current Toyota residuals are valid until July 5th

    Hi, what are the current residuals and mf in Georgia on the XLE and SE 36/12k.  

    Thanks.  

    XLE - 58%
    SE - 57%

    .00189 MF

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  • trcb777trcb777 Member Posts: 7

    Toyota dealership in Atlanta that we are dealing with for a 2016 Sienna XLE/nav 36 month 12k residual at 68%

  • ccmsix7ccmsix7 Member Posts: 16
    Thanks for your response earlier Michaell, can't seem to find any Limiteds so I was wondering what the MF and residuals were for Limited Premium AWD in NJ 36/10 or 12.
  • rtadamsrtadams Member Posts: 28
    NJ lease rates for May for the XLE Premium are now .00001 with 56% on a 3yr/36k mile lease. I ordered a new van last night using those figures. It should arrive (dealer transfer) by Friday.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    trcb777 said:

    Toyota dealership in Atlanta that we are dealing with for a 2016 Sienna XLE/nav 36 month 12k residual at 68%

    That might be through a third party bank; the TFS numbers we have show 58% for 36/12 on the XLE FWD.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    ccmsix7 said:

    Thanks for your response earlier Michaell, can't seem to find any Limiteds so I was wondering what the MF and residuals were for Limited Premium AWD in NJ 36/10 or 12.

    54% for 36/12; add 1% for 10K.

    We don't have the MF for the tri-state region, but other regions show .00001.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    rtadams said:

    NJ lease rates for May for the XLE Premium are now .00001 with 56% on a 3yr/36k mile lease. I ordered a new van last night using those figures. It should arrive (dealer transfer) by Friday.

    Good deal. Let us know the final deal details when you sign the paperwork.

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  • trcb777trcb777 Member Posts: 7
    Yeah, it's world Omni financial Corp dba southeast Toyota Finance.  Pleasantly surprised and makes for a great lease. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    trcb777 said:

    Yeah, it's world Omni financial Corp dba southeast Toyota Finance.  Pleasantly surprised and makes for a great lease. 

    That's the "official" bank for SE Toyota. Didn't realize they had their own residual tables.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,338
    trcb777 said:

    Yeah, it's world Omni financial Corp dba southeast Toyota Finance.  Pleasantly surprised and makes for a great lease. 

    Yes, SETF is separate from TFS, and is the default finance company for SET Distributorship dealers in FL, AL, GA, SC and NC.

    Check the fine print on the residual, though. I think SETF might use the old Toyota residual plan of only residualizing the base amount of the MSRP, not the options.

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  • dcfilleodcfilleo Member Posts: 3
    Hi,
    Could you please share the May residuals and MF for an XLE AWD in NJ. 
    Thank you. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    dcfilleo said:

    Hi,
    Could you please share the May residuals and MF for an XLE AWD in NJ. 
    Thank you. 

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • dcfilleodcfilleo Member Posts: 3
    36 months/12k miles per year.  Thanks for your time.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    dcfilleo said:

    Hi,
    Could you please share the May residuals and MF for an XLE AWD in NJ. 
    Thank you. 

    dcfilleo said:

    36 months/12k miles per year.  Thanks for your time.

    58% and .00001

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  • alreyesalreyes Member Posts: 8
    2016 Toyota Sienna Limited Premium AWD
    MSRP $ 47, 977.00
    12K/36 Months
    Initial Payment $549.00
    35 Months left @ $549 a month

    850 Downpayment

    Is this a good deal?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,338
    alreyes said:

    2016 Toyota Sienna Limited Premium AWD
    MSRP $ 47, 977.00
    12K/36 Months
    Initial Payment $549.00
    35 Months left @ $549 a month

    850 Downpayment

    Is this a good deal?

    What is the selling price and/or CAP cost.

    Which state and tax rate?

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  • alreyesalreyes Member Posts: 8
    OTD is $ 46,482.79

    NYC and tax rate is 8.875
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,338
    alreyes said:

    OTD is $ 46,482.79

    NYC and tax rate is 8.875

    If $850 is CAP cost reduction, then $549/mo, is what I get, as well.

    .00001 MF and 54% residual

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  • alreyesalreyes Member Posts: 8
    Thank you.
  • maudlin2001maudlin2001 Member Posts: 37
    Could you please get me the 2016 le and xle numbers for Florida. 24mo and 36mo 12k/yr 

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559

    Could you please get me the 2016 le and xle numbers for Florida. 24mo and 36mo 12k/yr 

    66% / 58% and .00169 for both trims.

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  • hemiechinushemiechinus Member Posts: 5
    Hi,

    Could you please tell me the MF and residuals for Sienna LE 36/12 and 36/15 for Southern California. We are always Tier 1+ when we lease from Toyota (if that makes a difference).

    Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559

    Hi,

    Could you please tell me the MF and residuals for Sienna LE 36/12 and 36/15 for Southern California. We are always Tier 1+ when we lease from Toyota (if that makes a difference).

    Thank you!

    .00001 and 58% / 56%. $500 lease cash

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  • lazy_melazy_me Member Posts: 15
    Could you please provide numbers for Sienna LE 36/12 for MA? Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    lazy_me said:

    Could you please provide numbers for Sienna LE 36/12 for MA? Thanks in advance!

    FWD or AWD?

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  • lazy_melazy_me Member Posts: 15
    Sorry, forgot - FWD, the simple one.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    lazy_me said:

    Sorry, forgot - FWD, the simple one.

    58% and I think .00001. Don't have specific New England numbers.

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  • coolamtycoolamty Member Posts: 8
    Hello, can you please share the May residuals and MF for a Sienna Limited Premium AWD in Wisconsin? Terms are for 36/12. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    coolamty said:

    Hello, can you please share the May residuals and MF for a Sienna Limited Premium AWD in Wisconsin? Terms are for 36/12. Thanks!

    54% and .00001

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  • coolamtycoolamty Member Posts: 8
    Thank you!
  • alreyesalreyes Member Posts: 8
    Hi Micheal,

    Was this a good deal?

    2016 Toyota Sienna Limited Premium AWD
    MSRP $ 47, 977.00
    12K/36 Months
    Initial Payment $549.00
    35 Months left @ $549 a month

    850 Downpayment

    OTD is $ 46,482.79

    NYC and tax rate is 8.875
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    alreyes said:

    Hi Micheal,

    Was this a good deal?

    2016 Toyota Sienna Limited Premium AWD
    MSRP $ 47, 977.00
    12K/36 Months
    Initial Payment $549.00
    35 Months left @ $549 a month

    850 Downpayment

    OTD is $ 46,482.79

    NYC and tax rate is 8.875

    54% and .00001. I get $572/mo. Your deal looks pretty good by comparison.

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  • alreyesalreyes Member Posts: 8
    Thanks Micheal
  • kimmy23kimmy23 Member Posts: 10
    What are the MF and residual for LE AWD for 36 month lease and 12K miles/year in NJ?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,338
    kimmy23 said:

    What are the MF and residual for LE AWD for 36 month lease and 12K miles/year in NJ?

    .00001 MF and 58% residual.

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  • samhimmersamhimmer Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2016
    What are the May MF and residual for XLE premium (and non-premium if there is a difference) AWD for 36 months & 12K/year in Chicago area? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    samhimmer said:

    What are the May MF and residual for XLE premium (and non-premium if there is a difference) AWD for 36 months & 12K/year in Chicago area? Thanks!

    58% (XLE AWD) or 56% (XLE Prem AWD) and .00001

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  • acura_na2acura_na2 Member Posts: 16
    Hello! May I get the MF and Residual for 2016 Toyota Sienna SE FWD in Texas - 36/12 and 36/15 please.
    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    acura_na2 said:

    Hello! May I get the MF and Residual for 2016 Toyota Sienna SE FWD in Texas - 36/12 and 36/15 please.
    Thanks!

    57% / 55% and .00001

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  • mod220220mod220220 Member Posts: 15
    can I get MF and residual, 2016 Sienna Limited Premium in Columbus, OH? Also, is it fair to want invoice as sales price? I know they have hold back, advertising, wholesale, etc., but not sure about metrics on a lease. thanks!
  • mod220220mod220220 Member Posts: 15
    edited May 2016
    dealer quote me the following which I think is a bit high:
    2016 FWD Limited Premium
    $45,855 sale price
    $4,000 down
    $520/month
    $25,472 residual (think this is around 55%)

    they said it's $500 over invoice but I've never paid over invoice.

    MF .00001

    I've never leased so a bit confused on where to negotiate, do I negotiate residual (sounds like that cost is fixed), sales price, etc.
  • paperboycccpaperboyccc Member Posts: 96
    mod220220 said:

    dealer quote me the following which I think is a bit high:
    2016 FWD Limited Premium
    $45,855 sale price
    $4,000 down
    $520/month
    $25,472 residual (think this is around 55%)

    they said it's $500 over invoice but I've never paid over invoice.

    MF .00001

    I've never leased so a bit confused on where to negotiate, do I negotiate residual (sounds like that cost is fixed), sales price, etc.

    1) Never put money down on a lease
    2) What is the MSRP?
    3) You can't negotiate residual, just sale price
    4) Yes - this quote is ridiculously high. Never pay more than 1% of MSRP per month on a lease and always do sign and drive leases (absolutely nothing due at signing)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    mod220220 said:

    can I get MF and residual, 2016 Sienna Limited Premium in Columbus, OH? Also, is it fair to want invoice as sales price? I know they have hold back, advertising, wholesale, etc., but not sure about metrics on a lease. thanks!

    mod220220 said:

    dealer quote me the following which I think is a bit high:
    2016 FWD Limited Premium
    $45,855 sale price
    $4,000 down
    $520/month
    $25,472 residual (think this is around 55%)

    they said it's $500 over invoice but I've never paid over invoice.

    MF .00001

    I've never leased so a bit confused on where to negotiate, do I negotiate residual (sounds like that cost is fixed), sales price, etc.

    As noted by @paperboyccc , there is some missing information:

    MSRP
    Lease term and miles per year
    FWD or AWD

    We do not recommend putting money down on a lease - that money is at risk if the car is stolen or totaled, and it gives a false sense of the monthly cost.

    Residual is fixed. Only thing to negotiate is the selling price.

    While the 1% of MSRP is a good goal, it doesn't translate to every make and model.

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  • mod220220mod220220 Member Posts: 15
    Michaell said:
    can I get MF and residual, 2016 Sienna Limited Premium in Columbus, OH? Also, is it fair to want invoice as sales price? I know they have hold back, advertising, wholesale, etc., but not sure about metrics on a lease. thanks!
    dealer quote me the following which I think is a bit high: 2016 FWD Limited Premium $45,855 sale price $4,000 down $520/month $25,472 residual (think this is around 55%) they said it's $500 over invoice but I've never paid over invoice. MF .00001 I've never leased so a bit confused on where to negotiate, do I negotiate residual (sounds like that cost is fixed), sales price, etc.
    As noted by @paperboyccc , there is some missing information: MSRP Lease term and miles per year FWD or AWD We do not recommend putting money down on a lease - that money is at risk if the car is stolen or totaled, and it gives a false sense of the monthly cost. Residual is fixed. Only thing to negotiate is the selling price. While the 1% of MSRP is a good goal, it doesn't translate to every make and model.
    Thanks
    msrp 48,500
    36 month, 12k miles
    FWD

    so tax,title, first payment etc I don't need to pay a penny upfront?


  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,559
    mod220220 said:


    Michaell said:

    mod220220 said:

    can I get MF and residual, 2016 Sienna Limited Premium in Columbus, OH? Also, is it fair to want invoice as sales price? I know they have hold back, advertising, wholesale, etc., but not sure about metrics on a lease. thanks!

    mod220220 said:

    dealer quote me the following which I think is a bit high:
    2016 FWD Limited Premium
    $45,855 sale price
    $4,000 down
    $520/month
    $25,472 residual (think this is around 55%)

    they said it's $500 over invoice but I've never paid over invoice.

    MF .00001

    I've never leased so a bit confused on where to negotiate, do I negotiate residual (sounds like that cost is fixed), sales price, etc.

    As noted by @paperboyccc , there is some missing information:

    MSRP
    Lease term and miles per year
    FWD or AWD

    We do not recommend putting money down on a lease - that money is at risk if the car is stolen or totaled, and it gives a false sense of the monthly cost.

    Residual is fixed. Only thing to negotiate is the selling price.

    While the 1% of MSRP is a good goal, it doesn't translate to every make and model.

    Thanks
    msrp 48,500
    36 month, 12k miles
    FWD

    so tax,title, first payment etc I don't need to pay a penny upfront?




    There is a difference between 'down payment' and 'money due at signing' - the former is used to lower the cap cost, the latter is unavoidable.

    Bank fee, dealer fee, first payment and tags are due at signing.

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  • mod220220mod220220 Member Posts: 15
    Michaell said:
    Michaell said:
    can I get MF and residual, 2016 Sienna Limited Premium in Columbus, OH? Also, is it fair to want invoice as sales price? I know they have hold back, advertising, wholesale, etc., but not sure about metrics on a lease. thanks!
    dealer quote me the following which I think is a bit high: 2016 FWD Limited Premium $45,855 sale price $4,000 down $520/month $25,472 residual (think this is around 55%) they said it's $500 over invoice but I've never paid over invoice. MF .00001 I've never leased so a bit confused on where to negotiate, do I negotiate residual (sounds like that cost is fixed), sales price, etc.
    As noted by @paperboyccc , there is some missing information: MSRP Lease term and miles per year FWD or AWD We do not recommend putting money down on a lease - that money is at risk if the car is stolen or totaled, and it gives a false sense of the monthly cost. Residual is fixed. Only thing to negotiate is the selling price. While the 1% of MSRP is a good goal, it doesn't translate to every make and model.
    Thanks
    msrp 48,500
    36 month, 12k miles
    FWD

    so tax,title, first payment etc I don't need to pay a penny upfront?


    There is a difference between 'down payment' and 'money due at signing' - the former is used to lower the cap cost, the latter is unavoidable. Bank fee, dealer fee, first payment and tags are due at signing.

  • mod220220mod220220 Member Posts: 15
    Thanks
    what are expected dealer and bank fees?  And could you share residual?  What is incentive for dealer to encourage more money down?  My "friend" said .00001 MF expires at end of month, any historical data on MF?
  • paperboycccpaperboyccc Member Posts: 96
    edited May 2016
    Michaell said:

    mod220220 said:


    There is a difference between 'down payment' and 'money due at signing' - the former is used to lower the cap cost, the latter is unavoidable.

    Bank fee, dealer fee, first payment and tags are due at signing.

    That is true and a lot of advice will tell you that it's OK to pay all of that at signing. I personally have always rolled all of those into the lease and never paid a penny at signing (sign and drive).

    I'm currently leasing two vehicles:
    2013 Chrysler Town & Country - $36,500 MSRP. Payment before tax = $296/mo
    2015 GMC Terrain - $35,500 MSRP. Payment before tax = $143/mo

    I simply don't lease a vehicle if I have to pay over 1% of MSRP per month. Obviously you cannot find deals like this on 100% of vehicles and have to hunt of the great deals.
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