Saab 9-3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

kyfdx

In general, the supplier price is invoice + $75... I doubt you can negotiate any lower than that..

I don't pay too much attention to the TMV on Edmunds... The info doesn't always factor in the latest incentives, and customer rebates are accounted for differently than dealer cash.. Plus, the numbers are historical, so there is a time lag, as well...

The Saab dealer should be able to show you an invoice that has the supplier price listed..

regards,
kyfdx

c_d

Hello
If I may ask, which dealership in New England did you get .00049 from?? That is good. I am getting a quote (and about to sign) of .00624!!! I might have to go to that dealer! Either that or let my current dealer know what I could get elsewhere!
Im going to lease a linear 9-3, but I wouldnt think that the trim should make the difference for the Money factor that you get?

I too am using the supplier discount. It saves alot of hassle. Id save even more, if I can get them down a bit on that MF!


thanks!

atamir

Hi,

I just asked for a lease quote from a saab dealer who told me that the msrp's quoted on the saab website taking into account the supplier incentive are wrong. Has anyone else heard this, is it true or is my dealer giving me sales talk?

thanks!

saabgal

I'm looking into leasing a 9-3 Arc with driver's package. Here's the break-down for getting lease financing from Saab:
1. MSRP 36,240
2. Employee discount deal this month brings it down to $29,408
3. money factor = .00212, just under 5%
4. residual from MSRP = 49% which = 17,757

This brings payments after $1861 down (first month, license fee, etc) to $450 a month, with my local sales tax $481. Any thoughts on if this is a deal? Was last months incentives better for leasing, will next months be better given the need to purge the 2005's? Thanks.

mgz2400

Does anyone have the MF and residual % for a 3yr/12,000mile lease? Also, what is the acquisition fee?

cpa_howard

Hi! Guys, I recently wanna to buy a 93 Arc and saw the GM employee discount price: $25,753.00 (original MSRP $30,970). It seems to be a good deal, or we still have more room to get the best deal. :P

adp3

good question - is this new pricing worth it?

janissarie

I have a brother-in-law who works for GM so I don,t need to get a car before July 5. Anyone know if they will have rebates on the 9-3 after this Emmp. pricing for everyone promotion?

Hacksaw

Vexatious,

Can you share the dealership name and location? I'm looking at a 2005 9-3 Linear at the GM Employee prices-- a bargain indeed-- but you did 10% better than Employee pricing on your Arc.

I tried the argument about depreciation and he looked at me as if I was nuts-- "you won't get this car at a better price". I'm going to shop around some more, but if your dealership is within a few hundred miles I wouldn't mind taking a mini-roadtrip in my new car. :-)

Thanks.

jk1492

With the GM pricing getting you a '95 Arc for about 27K (reasonably equipped), what would a 2004 still unsold go for??? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

adp3

I've talked to a few folks who have said the current employee discount is not as good as the pricing you can get if you negotiate regardless of the discount. It appears you might as well buy GM cars like you normally would.

mrjjgittes

RE: employee discount, on the SAAB/GM site it gave a price of $22,681 for a base 9-3 linear. Add metallic paint and an auto tranny, and I get about $24,500. Anybody negotiate a 9-3 linear lately and get a price like this, or better?

bons

I bought S40 3 months ago, and at that time I was also considering the Saab 93. I was able to negotiate for the 93 with premium, auto tran, and sunroof for $28 out the door. So with the employee discount promotion the deal is you'll get the best deal without any negotiation. The 93 starting at 22,681 is unbelievable deal, if they had this deal back then I think I'd have bought the 93 instead of S40.

adp3

that's great info - how are you liking your S40?

I am driving a Sebring convertible with about 80k miles on it, so I always need to be in the market for a new car. :P Actually, maybe my sentiment should be

Am considering replacing it with the Saab convertible. Are Saabs any good these days? I haven't paid any attention since GM bought them, since I figured they'd ruin the product. My Sebring is OK, but if the Saab was a good product, maybe now is a good time to pull the trigger on a new one.

bons

Personally I just love Swedish cars, so far I love my S40, the comfort and handling is awesome. We also have a 02 95 and the inspired turbo engine makes it very fun to drive.

I think the one car that makes Saab famous is its convertible, much adorned by educated women. The new 93 convertible is more masculine than its predecessors and I think it's a beauty. I just spotted the new Volvo C50 convertible here on edmund.com and it looks awesome (hard-top four seater convertible, wow that is a world's first)
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=105967

GM hasn't done much with Saab engine, only beginning to borrow Saab's turbo technology. Volvo is becoming a very successful/distinguished brand and sales are increasing. I think GM can lend hands in the marketing department and leave the engineering & designing to Saab, and hopefully Saab can make the same run that Volvo has.

adp3

I had no doubt that Volvo new convertible would be sweet. But how much more expensive will the C50 be than the current price you can get a 93 for? I'm sure I'd like the C50 more, but....will I like it 10k more?

of course, I picked up my Volvo XC90 at the factory, and I'd LOVE another trip to Sweden to do the same. I told myself that that was the only way I was going to buy a car in the future, but the current GM discounts appear to be too good to ignore.

I wonder if I can combine overseas delivery with the employee discount.......?

bons

Given the starting price of the S40 at 23K, from what I heard the C50 would start about 10K more, which is the same starting price of the current Saab convertible with employee discount ($32,9 wow sure is a too good of a deal to ignore) but I think it's never too late to get one, other creative promotion will come along. The C50 won't be available for at least another 9 months, but a Saab convertible is also very nice.

jspears

Hi Everyone,

I have some questions about leasing a Saab 9-3 Linear. I have been looking at a couple of dealerships already and at the latest one, this sales person seemed to give me some interesting deal (or is it?).

And here is what this sales guy quoted me:

SAAB Linear 9-3 with a manual transmission and a moonroof in a metallic paint

MSRP: 29295
Sales price: 26665
Rebates: 3500
RV: 39%
MF: 0.0015
Term: 48 mo
No down payment, no upfront money, just the first monthly payment
Monthly payment = $345

Does this seem like a good deal? Compared to the one I got from other sales reps previously, this looks better. What do you experts think? Thanks a bunch for you opinions.

JS

51paul

There is a $3,500 rebate and the GM employee price? Is the rebate good for purchases too?

51paul

they will definitely have additonal incentives after july 5 as GM tries to reduce inventory on the '05 models. Do you know how much the rebates were last month for purchases? I can get S-plan and am waiting for this promotion to end myself before I buy my 9-3.

kyfdx

It looks good, but four years is a long time to be locked into a lease.. What is the mileage allowance?

jspears

To answer 51paul, yes there is a rebate on top of the GM employee discount. But the sale price I mentioned is the GM employee discount for the car I'm interested in. I think there is also a rebate for purchase although I'm not sure how much. Anyone?

kyfdx, the mileage allowance is 12K mi a year. Is a 48-mo lease really too long? I just think that for me it's about right because changing my vehicle every 4 yr seems okay. Thanks for your opinion and welcome some more.

kyfdx

If you are certain that you can complete the terms of the lease, there is nothing inherently wrong with leasing for four years.. With the Saab, you'll be under warranty the entire time, as well.

Getting out of a lease early is very expensive, though.. If you can commit to it, then no problem..

The price looks very good..

regards,
kyfdx

ckingtw

I've been working with the dealer for the last two days trying to decide which 9-3 to get. They're quoting me Linear prices with auto trans for 21900 which includes the employee discount and a $4500 rebate if I lease through them. If I choose to purchase, the rebate drops to $2500 + employee discount. They're telling me that I can get a $3500 rebate on an ARC if I lease...a thousand dollar difference. I have not sat down at the table with them yet to determine if the lease rebate + fees they will pile on top of it equal an advantage. I found on edmunds.com that there are lease and/or APR incentives for .9, 1.9 and 2.9%. My dealer has failed to mention this so far. The interest rate they're quoting me for the "special" lease incentives is 6.9% and they have not run my credit yet. All this seems a little fuzzy. Step carefully through the mess... :confuse:

ckingtw

Has anyone had any success negotiating down the price of a 9-3 Linear or ARC beyond the stated employee discount price? There just appears to be more room in the final price to get a better deal. I'm seeing in other boards that GM dealers are getting up to 5% holdback to move cars and still make money. Yet the dealer tells me they're only making $200 on each sale (which I don't believe for a minute). Something interesting also...my particular dealership has more DEMOS on the lot then new cars. He tells me the demos are not priced any different then the new cars because the employee discounts cut so deep into the prices (again I don't believe him). Figure this out...a demo 9-3 with some miles on it (but less then 6k) at the same price as a new one with less then 10 miles on it. Come on! There has to be negotiating room there. Anyone familiar with this? :mad:

ckingtw

This is what I've been offered by the dealer. Can anyone tell me if this is good, bad or ugly based on your buying experience? What incentives and discounts are out there to be tacted on? I'm pre-approved at 4.95% for up to 60 months through my credit union as a straight purchase but it appears I can't get the incentives beyond employee discount without leasing. Am I missing something?

93 Linear:
End price before TTL
$21900 w/auto trans - no other upgrades

Included discounts and rebates:
Option 1
1) Employee Discount
2) $4500 lease incentive (48 month @ 6.9%)

Option 2 - new price $23900
1) Employee discount
2) $2500 incentive (purchase)

93 ARC
End price before TTL
$26300 w/auto trans - no other upgrades

Included Discounts and rebates
Option 1
1) Employee discount
2) $3500 lease inccentive (48 months @ 6.9%)

In each of the two car scenarios the dealer has slid in preparation and advertising costs equalling $500 total. I say get them out of there. The dealer also has demos on the lot that he says are going for the same price as new...there has to be wiggle room there.

kyfdx

Even though the imputed interest rate is kind of high, the extra $2K in incentives would make me want to lease..

I have no confidence in the resale value of a Saab.. A lease guarantees your residual value, instead of putting you at the whim of the market..

I believe Saab still quotes their leases with money factors, not interest rates.. Ask them for the money factor, then check it with Car_man on the Lease Questions board.

regards,
kyfdx

mrjjgittes

I just bought a new 9-3 linear at Continental Motors in Oceanside, CA. Very good buying experience. Total transaction took about 20 minutes. I paid the price you get at the GM site under the new employee discount, plus add ons for an auto trans, and heated seats, dollar for dollar. Totalled about $24,500 before ttl. Good deal on my trade too. No games at all. Maybe I could have knocked a couple of hundred off if I played all the local dealers against each other, but frankly doing that is just not worth a couple of hundred $ to me anymore. This dealership is closest to me, so I wanted to go with them if the deal was fair and professional, which it was.

Anyway, I love the car (except for the stereo, its weak). There are a few quirky things about Saabs, but after 3 days I am already used to them. Engine is strong, especially considering this is the lowest powered model. I'd take this car any day over what else is out there (mainly non premium Japanese cars) in sedans at that price with a leather interior.

dante

We test drove a 9-3 Arc this weekend. Midnight blue with tan interior. We sooo wanted to buy it. It is a gorgeous car. My wife had an instant smile on her face as she pushed the button and the top magically dropped down and disappeared from view. The price seemed OK too, they took off about $5K for the GM employee discount and said they would add to that another $1,500 dealer cash incentive. So, we were ready to pull the trigger.

Except for one thing. The engine. OK, we are not looking for an M3 but this car has no torque, none, zip, nada (and this is the bigger engine???). With the automatic, the car was very sluggish off the line and the engine/exhaust sound was very unimpressive, a wheeze rather than a growl. We own an Infiniti FX which maybe has spoiled us, but this car was a total disappointment. GM will be dropping a new V6 in the 9-3 in a few months, but by then the GM discount will be long gone. Don't know what to do, great looking car, great ride, lousy power...

Maybe it is just us. Jon.

ckingtw

My dealer has an ARC on the lot with auto trans, metalic paint and power moonroof. for $26545 with all incentives and discounts. I don't want the moonroof so I'm going to try and negotiate the price down further. For those of you who have already purchased during this promotion, any luck negotiating price down beyond advertised emp discounts and incentives?

How about the lease options. Did anyone feel the lease fees were fair or do you get hosed?

mrjjgittes

I came from a 4 cyl Accord, so the power of the linear seems good to me, especially when accelerating from about 30 to 65 when merging on. Probably nothing compared to those high horsepower Infinitis and Nissans though. Nevertheless, for the price, I am loving this car, so far.........

saaboy

Wait wait wait wait... Are we talking about the same 9-3 here? The one with 210 hp and 221 ft. lbs. of torque starting at 2,500 rpm. Right? Did the dealership take out the turbo? I don't know what size ur pathfi, er, FX has, (im sure it's great though) but SAAB, of all cars is known to have great torque, especially low-end torque. What is going on here?

P.S. It's the same engine as the Linear, just a stronger turbo :shades:

madmax252

The FX has probably spoiled you. This is a turbo 4-cylinder, not a V8! The engine doesn't really growl, it's got a grumble at idle but when the turbo kicks in, it's more of a whoosh/hiss. I think it's the most fun to drive when on the highway, because it has plenty of passing power, even when going 80+ mph. Believe me, I've tested that. I think you should give it another shot and take it for a spin on the expressway.

dante

You know, I think you are right, I am going to give it another shot. The FX we own is the V 6, not the beast V 8. However, the V 6 nonetheless pulls like a ...

As I said, we LOVED the SAAB but for what we perceived as uninspired acceleration. I will call the dealer for another drive and, yes, it is the one with 210 HP that we test drove. Just for the record, I am not a gear head, I don't drive at high speeds or otherwise dangerously but I do like some "umph" off the line.

Back to the SAAB dealership it is then! So, how much are others getting off the 9-3 Arc convertible other than the standard GM employee discount?

Thanks, Jon.

dhanley

If you're coming from a big v6, the 4 in the saab does feel weak-- not just because of the slightly lower HP numbers, but because of the turbo lag. Especially with the auto, it takes a second or two to get full power.

It's something you might get used to, but if you can wait, the v6 will be a *lot* better. And, although there are good deals on the saabs now, they're not unique--there have been great deals on the 'verts in the past.

dave

cls2

Seems like an awful lot of people have leased these this month, but I can't put my finger on the actual numbers. I've dug throught the posts here, but maybe I missed something. Can someone who has leased a 9-3 this month chime in?

I'm looking for Residual for 36 mo./10K or 12K and I'd like to know what kind of Money Factor Saab is offering.

Thanks

mrblonde49

The Saabs are made for highway power. The turbo lag makes them a little sluggish froma dead stop, but they fly when you are moving - and that is what matters most, IMO. Drive it again, and look at the power from 30 - 80+, especially in manual mode

sasha3372

I'm not sure what you mean about not getting incentives if you are financing, unless I am missing something. Which by all means please tell me!!

I've been quoted by 2 different dealers, one in MA, and other in FL for 93 Linear:
Sale price $24,416 w/auto trans and the metallic paint which is supposed to include the (1) Employee discount which I was quoted to be $26,894 (MSRP $28,920), and less (2) $2500 incentive (purchase). Your price of $23,900 seems to be in line with the quotes I received for auto trans only.

Questions: (1) Has anyone been able to negotiate out of the $500 extra for the metallic paint? (2) One of the dealers in FL also is trying to charge $550 for a "Dealer Service Fee", which is highly inflated. How far down have people been able to negotiate to a "fair" price?

(3) Any more insights into the greater incentives GM will have for Saab? These 2 dealers are saying they are running low on inventory for 2005 already.

runner6

buy_low,

it seems like the dealer that you worked with was willing to negotiate on pricing and such. It seems like you got a very nice price. Would you mind sharing the name of your dealer? Thank you

billyk01

Where is the $2500 incentive (beyond GM employee proce) coming from? Is it based on lease only? Is it regional?

sasha3372

It is for a purchase, not lease. I don't think its regional b/c I got similar quotes from both the NE and South regions of the U.S. The $2500 less than the GM employee price is supposed to dealer cash.

gringo1

Hi,
I posted this on the 9-2 board also.

Anyone know whether Saabs are eligible for GM card points?

Since GM is pulling out the stops to sell vehicles, I wonder if GM is allowing GM Card to be used for Saab purchase or lease.

Thanks,

chgogirl

I checked the Saab website yesterday about the GM discount and final cost of the 9-3 Linear, the price is listed as $22681 with the GM discount - does anyone know if this includes the lease incentives that the dealers are offering? Or should I subtract the $2500-4500 from the $22681? And, how can I find out how much the lease incentives really are?

I visited a dealer yesterday in Central New Jersey that quoted me the following:

Initial Cap Cost $24,872 (Including auto trans and heated seats, and supposedly after discounts and incentives)
Bank Fee $795
Registration $230
Doc Fee $169

$753.88 down/$347.38 per month for a 36 month/10,000 mile lease

Does this sound okay? By the way, I need your advice quickly, I'm leaving for another dealership at 2:00 eastern.

Thanks!

dhanley

I believe the 22681 is with the purchase incentive. The incentive is 1000 more when you lease.

billyk01

Anyone have luck getting the GM Employee Discount applied to add-ons / packages? (i.e paint, moonroof, auto trans, drivers package, etc)

chgogirl

Yes!! They have to apply the discount to the add-ons. You can call Saab directly to get the discounted prices, just so you're prepared when you start negotiating with the dealer!

Chgogirl

billyk01

Great advice! Thanks! Called 1-800-SAAB-USA & they gave me discount prices for all features I'm interested in. Good to know, as a dealer quoted me on a 9-3 ARC only applying GM employee discount to base msrp!

fijaicairo

Weedy which NY dealer did you get your deal from? Sounds quite good. The best I've managed pre-negotiation is $349 on a linear with manual transmission and no other options.

arncas

My daughter (21) found a certified Saab at a local deal in Aurora, IL. She asked to make an offer on the car and was told that "Certified Saab prices are not negotiable." Is that true?

kyfdx

Nope.... find another dealer, or pick a different car...