The light was red and the message said don't drive over 30 mph. I understand that one service visit does not a lemon make -- and part of this is me venting -- but it's also not like this is a minor issue. Given the horrid experiences of so many others with this suspension problem, I'm concerned that once it happens it's hard to fix for good.
jjgghh, just curious, during the 9,000 miles that you have driven your 2005 LR3, have you on a regular basis adjusted the suspension from low to high and back to mid-level? I've been moving mine up and down to to make sure it works and to "exercise" it because I find when something is not used, it will break. Of course, I only have about 800 miles so far.
Mark
2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
Well said Mark! You need to move the system regulary. If you are in NY (New England) and Im in NH and the salt and other stuff tend to get everywhere. Suggest regular underbody squirts with the hose or carwash. I now have 26,000 miles on my HSE7 and its been indestructible. Yes there are things I'd improve, but it's hard to find an equal! IMHO The LR3 goes through a snow drift like butter, my Chevy Silverado HD in 4X4 gets stuck. Go figure!
Its been in the shop what two days now maybe three?
Man I am glad most of my customers are more patient then that. One of the air suspension issues we had, on a sport not an LR3 but pretty much the same, took three or four visits over the course of about a month I guess and each visit lasted for a couple of days. Now that guy was fairly upset but we calmed him down as best we could and he hasn't had any problems with the car since.
He loves the car now and I have sold cars to a couple of his friends from his referals.
I had the same problem on an LR3 with 13,000 miles 2 weeks ago while traveling through Tucson. The local dealer diagnosed it as a faulty suspension pump and immediately replaced it. No problems since. The dealer commented that they have been replacing quite a few suspension pumps. Good luck!
Follow up on Parking brake fault that occurred in day 2 of ownership. After 15 days at the dealer we picked up our 06 LR3 HSE yesterday. Problem fixed, glad to have the vehicle back. Communication from the service writer was poor throughout the process, at one point told car should be ready later that day, did not hear from them for 5 more days (seems they received wrong part and had to wait for another! Service experience definitely a notch below our past experience with mercedes, bmw and volvo. Vehicle delivered outside in the cold, dirty inside and out, seats in a different configuration than at drop off, radio station changed, something brown (guessing Coke) on leather seats, height of arm rests changed, passenger seat practically reclined........but they did give me a LR3 SEV8 to drive and did fix my problem. Not off to a great start, hopefully the second month of ownership will be more trouble free.
Call the service manager or even better the center manager and let him know what happened and explain that you have not gotten your CSI survey yet but when you do you would like to be able to give the service department 100's but just can't because of your preveious experience. Then just see what he does.
I had noticed that my early build '05 V8 SE7 (took possession on 12/1/04) holds coffee cups worse than the late build '05 V6 SE7 loaner car that I get during services.
So, yesterday, I swung by the dealership and I compared their respective cupholder inserts. Interestingly, the late build insert has thicker walls.
My dealer said that the parts weren't readily available, and that the parts list doesn't indicate different sizes or a change in part. But he swapped one of mine for one on a demo car; and coffee doesn't spill anymore.
Yes, that was a running improvement for 2006 (and very late 2005). The part number for the revised center cup holder insert should be FWW500060XXX.
They also added a rubber mat in front of the Navigation screen. Previously, I bought the rubber mat for the non-Navigation vehicle and cut the back off to fit. Now Land Rover does it for you. :shades: The part number for the small "FACIA BIN CENTER RUBBER NAV MAT" is FAH500032XXX
I have an LR3 with 15k on it and am in the process of getting my money back for it. I have had the truck in four times for Suspension faults that cannot be fixed. The last time I had it in for the traveling engineer to look at and they supposedly found the problem, but the next day, I had another one.
I spoke with the sales manager and he privately told me that this is a real problem for this car and that they have a challenge trying to diagnose why this is happening, because they cannot pinpoint "one fix" for it. It seems that the problem is different for each car that they see.
I wrote to Land Rover North America prior to their last attempt to fix it, telling them that I was going to Lemon Law the vehicle. This got a very immediate response from my dealer, who asked me kndly not to write to them again and they would do anything to get me out of the vehicle.
Ok...I had the Internet Offer of $1500 off that expired on the 9th. Now my dealer has my car in stock, but the offer is expired. He told me that there is a new "Direct Mail" offer that started on the 9th and goes until March.
Do any of you know what this offer is and how I can get my hands on it?
Joisey, when the dealer said they would do ANYTHING to get you out of your vehicle, I'm assuming that they don't want you go through the Lemon Law.
Keep us updated as to what your outcome is. I know it must have been very frustrating for you.
Hopefully, the suspension faults did not follow into the 2006 model. I love this SUV everyday that I drive it! Five weeks of ownership and smooth sailing.
Roving along the highways and byways! Mark
2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
For what it's worth, I've got 7800 miles on my 2006 LR3 and the suspension fault is still there. What's really amusing (!)is that it didn't start until I picked up my car from it's 7500 service. Go figure. They handed me the keys, I got in and said 'what's this?'. You're giving me back a car with a problem I didn't have on the way in? Oy. I had an air bag sensor assembly go wonky when I had the car for two weeks. Finally, after 8 weeks of waiting on the part, I got in touch with the ombudsperson at Land Rover North America. (Call the New Jersey number)Voila! Part suddenly appears.
New type of compressor is on the way for the suspension in my LR3 and it will be replaced this coming week. I'll keep you up to date on the solution. BTW, I'm only 5' tall, so I use the access height all the time--and the suspension is a big plus in the regular trips I take from Long Island to the mountains in Vermont. I really like all aspects of driving my LR3 and I climb up mountains with it in low gear and use the descent control on the way down. Think it rocks! It holds a wet road like white on rice. But, coming from 4 Volvos in my past, I'm really disappointed in the service I'm getting at LR, the bad communication and the general cluelessness of the Land Rover folks. Maybe my basis of comparison was too good to be true, but you pay this kind of money, they can give you a little straight information.
Still, I'd be hard pressed to say that I wouldn't make the purchase all over again. I was looking at the Volvo SUV and I wasn't as happy with it.
I joined this forum because I wanted to pass this on to you. I had a blow out at 70 mph on Interstate 91 in Hartford this weekend. The good news is that the LR3 took it magnificently. It listed to the right (it was the right rear), but it didn't lose ANY aspect of control. The suspension faults went red and all the stuff that should ring did as I pulled over. I don't know the cause, but it was sudden. The speed did the tire in and it couldn't be plugged.
So far so good. In a bad situation, my trusty LR3 handled better than well. Road side assistance came and executed the change...peachy. Nice young man and the LR phone group did fine.
But, was I SHOCKED to discover that I didn't have a full sized spare. What good would the 50 mph donut do me? (Indeed what good does a donut do anyone except a local driver?) I couldn't continue my trip as I had another 200 miles of highway driving to do. So I looked around for a tire dealer. What a pain trying to find someone with a Goodyear or a comp for an 18" rim! (Imagine if I had the 19"?) I finally got a used tire and it got me to Killington. I discovered it had a slow leak in the sidewall so I was back to square one. I've spent the last day on the phone getting the right tire shipped overnight to a Rutland dealer because it's not a regular Goodyear stock item for most. (There are worse things than being stuck an extra day at one's vacation home. Don't be concerned on my account. )
Lesson: I'm not blaming this one on Land Rover, I didn't read the fine print in my spec. Ford is doing anything possible to cut a few dollars and a few pounds (for gas mileage) and this was a design decision. But it's a foolish one as NO SUV should be without a full-sized spare.
When I return home and get my compressor installed (see my response to Darien regarding my suspension fault)I'm going to suck up the grand and order a 5th tire and rim. (This in addition to what I'm spending now to get the replacement tire up to Killington.) My message to you all is DO THE SAME. If you do not have a full sized spare, make the investment. If you need more than your donut, the 18" or 19" rim will make tire replacement a difficult thing, so be prepared to fend for yourself by solving the problem first.
Forewarned is forearmed. At the same time, know that your LR3 will keep you safe when the, er, rubber hits the fan.
I am glad you were safe and everything turned out all right in the end. Unfortunately only Heavy Duty Package equipied cars come with the Full size spare. Your blow out happned very close to where I work, I work at the closest Land Rover Dealer to Hartford, we normaly keep some of those tires in stock and probably could have gotten you a tire right away.
mark156, are you sure you don't want that Lexus? Since the wheel is mounted with the "visible" side up, I don't think you need to worry about much. Just spray it clean from the bottom every so often. I've had the vehicle 13 months and the spare was far from grimy when I popped it off last month to check the air pressure.
The sill treads plates are just pieces of aluminum with double-stick tape. Nothing too exciting... My LR3 has them now, since I got them for "free" from someone that didn't want them. :shades:
Grommet, I like to keep my cars spotless, be it a SUV, sedan, sports car, etc... If I had a tractor, I would probably put "wet black" on the tires! LOL!
If the sill plates are that easy to install I just might get them. I have seen them advertised for $167 for all four sills at a car site.
Mark
2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
I had the small spare replaced by a full size one, and it swapped over no problem. I'm not quite sure what LR's thinking is by selling the cars with an 'optional' Heavy Duty package... - these are Land Rover's after all, you'd think it would be standard. I know that I really wish I had the locking diff's - the car really is pretty poor in the sand to be honest (I live in Arabia) and has had to be towed out a couple of times in situations where supposedly far lesser vehicles (including older disco's) have had little problem. Much of it has to be to do with the 19" wheels I'm sure (and the standard mud guards that operate as sand brakes)... - even dropping the pressure to 15 or even 12 PSi the tires don't spread that much. I guess that these wheels, along with a 'get me home only spare and an optional Heavy Duty package is an admission that the lesser equipped cars, despite what they say on the tin, won't really venture out of the cities that much.
Owner of a loaded 05 SE that just had the dreaded amber suspension fault. Took it in to the dealer, they had it a day to let me know it needs a new compressor which they don't have and don't know when they can get one. I just love this truck and have had no problem in 11 mos and 12K miles. I hope this is not just the begining of a nightmare of trips to the dealer.
The manager told me to pick up the LR3 and drive it until they locate a compressor. This struck me as odd but he stated it was safe to drive. It may be safe but it drives like it has no suspension. Rocks over all holes and pavement irregularities.
Has anyone else driven their vehicle while amber suspension fault was indicated? If so for how many miles/days.
Anyone else having a problem locating a compressor? Can't dealer just swipe one from a vehicle on the lot?
You can swap one from another car and we actually have done this before but it can cause a lot of problems for the dealer. Now you have a totally dead car that can't be sold sitting probably unmovable for however long it takes to get a compressor. The other problem is that the compressor design has been recently updated and they might not have any LR3's with the new compressor design on the lot. I would wait for the better design unless they trully have know idea how far backordered the part is.
You have know idea how screwed up Land Rovers part system is right now since they just switched their ordering system over to a new one. We had a key ordered for a Range Rover that only shipped with one from the factory and it took over 6 weeks to get here.
As long as it is just amber it should be ok but don't adjust try and adjust the ride height level. If you do get really worried just ask if they can pull a compressor out of another car because it can be down I am just sure it is not their first choice.
Do you know of any new or upcoming incentives that will be available on the LR3? I have heard that the "direct mail" offer was actually from November that got extended. But there has got to be some new promo getting ready to come out...right??
According to my sales guy, dealers are the last to know about special direct promotions. And even if they did, they can't "force" you to get a promo mailer. Any "normal" special offers are public and are generally posted here:
just came back from my trip to NH and have a few things to share that i noticed. At speeds like 60 mph and above, I noticed that I had to pretty much constantly keep correcting/adjusting my steering wheel to keep the vehicle straight on its course. Have an appointment with the service to check things out like alignment etc. I had noticed this the very first time I drove my LR3 home after picking up from the dealership. Dealer mentioned something like thats an easy fix and its an adjustment, I wonder what that could be.
The top part of the rear door won't close unless i shut it hard. I am not able to open it up properly either. I have to press the button (that is under the black license plate light cover) twice, once to release the lock and 2nd or third time to be able to open the hatch.
All doors (specially the driver's side one) wont shut properly either unless i shut it with some force, dealer said that the truck is air tight thats why. So i did an experiment, left the passengen side door open and then tried shutting the driver's side door and that certainly helped. Any body else experienced this?
And lastly, sometimes the vehicle will sound a chime but there will be no message or light anywhere and its not the park distance control or the temperature drop sound as i am familiar with those. The chime sounds more like the one when you change a setting (suspension height or transfer case speed) or when a warning comes on, etc.
Last couple of days, i have been noticing a squeeking sound when i apply brakes, is that something normal? I have been very very easy on the brakes ever since i picked up the truck knowing that the brake pads need to seat/bed in.
"I have to press the button (that is under the black license plate light cover) twice, once to release the lock and 2nd or third time to be able to open the hatch."
This is the normal behavior. It's actually "press and hold" to open. If you just tap and release, the safety still holds the hatch in place.
"All doors (specially the driver's side one) wont shut properly either unless I shut it with some force, dealer said that the truck is air tight thats why."
Sorry, the truck is not "air tight" -- that's just a silly comment. But yes, air pressure will make doors harder to close. Again, that's normal... you'll get used to the force required to close the last door. If you still think it's "too hard", compare to another LR3 on the lot for reference and then complain if it's a lot worse.
The chime to which you refer may be the one that goes off when the outside air temperature sensor reads 39 degrees Farenheit. It is to warn you of possible icing conditions. Check the thermometer on your readout next time you hear it.
I, too, have the occasional "ding" with no message on the dash. It happened a few times early on but hasn't happened in the last 3 weeks. I would say it has happened about 4 times.
I know the "Freeze" warning will ding, the turning signal will ding after a few minutes, other than that, I don't think I'm doing anything to deserve a warning. I have had a "suspension fault" message on the read-out a couple of times. When I turn the ignition off and back on, the message is gone. The suspension adjustment works perfectly as I use it almost every time I drive it. I like to make sure it works and I'm guilty of playing with it too! (the suspension) :P
I haven't noticed that the doors are hard to close but I would expect our doors to be sealed pretty tight as we can go in water deep enough to cover the top of the wheel. That would put the doors about 1/3rd under water.
My Mercedes ML500 needed a good push to close the doors so I might be used to that so the LR3 is fine.
My steering seems to be straight with no effort at any speed to keep in on the road. I really enjoy the commanding few of this vehicle. I like the straight flat hood because the Mercedes was so slanted you couldn't see it.
Things that I wished the LR3 had: -motorized pull-in mirrors -auto up and down for all window buttons at the drivers window control. -the little tray in the console is wimpy, they should have two separate compartments; one for upper and one for lower.
I'm going to pick up a new cell phone today. I have Verizon wireless so I've picked out the Motorola Razr V3c phone that is very thin. It has bluetooth and a camera. I was never a big fan of having a camera but after thinking about it, it is a good idea. If you see someone acting crazy, you can take a picture of their tag. If you are in a minor fender bender, you can take pictures of the vehicles or even the other driver. The picture phone could come in handy.
Paxton... when I get the ding for the "freeze" warning, there is no message but a snow flake will appear next to the temperature readout.
Roving right along... Mark
2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
After 13 months with my HSE I have found a great alternative to the bluetooth or lack thereof from LRNA.
Got my Verizon Treo700W Phone/PDA working in the car which has great voice command capability hooked in through the AUX input so everything comes in over the Logic7. Also because its through the AUX I can mute the music as needed.
Voice commands can update you on appointments, contacts, whos calling and many other things.
Get my emails and warning beeps via sound system I have messages.
Check it out "its the business"! My LR dealer couldnt believe it when I showed them what it could do and will suggest that for anyone looking at the LR bluetooth kit which IMHO is a joke!
I would love to hear the technicals on how you got this done since I do have a couple of customers with that phone where blue tooh will not work. Shoot me an email if you would please.
I've seen this done... they wire the audio output of the 3rd party phone kit into the AUX input. That's it. You need to select AUX to have it work, of course.
Alternatively, they use a separate amplified speaker mounted in a hidden location and use the mute lead on the back of the head unit to "mute" the car stereo.
Virtually all 3rd party BT kits offer more functionality, especially if designed for a specific phone/brand.
Well, I sort of agree with the concept of "sales is the last to know". It was a bit of a rhetorical question because, of course, any of us "obvious web surfers" can look at the web offers, but most dealers are a little in touch with the corp marketing dept. If not, it is a lot like talking to a guy that sold Chevy's last week and now thinks he is a LR expert. Happens everyday...but I am sure the find their prey!
Here is what I am looking to learn. If any dealers on the page or any others...I would like to know.
1) Any new incentives on the way? (I have had a couple of private replies tell me yes)
2) Is the compressor problem limited to the 2005's or is it now also on the 2006's. If it is on the 2006's, was there an after production date to be aware of?
3) For x-plan leases; is it a static rate or is it still negotiable?
tdo123, re: 2... As time goes on, production improvements and refinements happen. This happens irregardless of model year. It depends on what you mean by "compressor problems"...
There are also folks (like me) that have had no compressor problems in 13 months. There are also people with vehicles built <60 days ago that do have problems... both LR3 and RRS. (I know a shiny new RRS S/C owner with compressor issues.) In other words, don't worry about the year or the build time.
1. I am sure there are but as to what they are LRNA does not usually tell us till the day or so before they come out. This makes sense if you think about it. If we knew their were fantastic new incentives coming in a week we would proably try and push a couple of people on the fence to wait and get their car a week or so later. If they wanted to pay say 48k for a car and we could get their but we had to cut into our margin to do it. Now if we knew new incentives were coming we would just wait till the new incentives came out and hit the customers 48k number or maybe even a little below taking the extra profit.
That is why LRNA does not tell us about them ahead of time because those incentives cost them money.
3. I am not sure what you mean by static rate? The residual is set by the bank we can't do anything with that. For X-Plan I think the price is either 4% or 6% over invoice with no reimbursment from Ford. Pretty good deal for zero work on your part. A/S/Z plans I am pretty sure are invoice with a 4% or 6% reimbursment from ford.
As to rate if you mean the lease money factor yeah you can negotiate that some but if the dealer is making no money from the front end what do you think they are gonna do with the back?
Dealer informed me it will be until 2-13 before they can get an updated suspension compressor for my 05-SE. The truck is not drivable even though it just shows an amber warning...it has lost pressure over time in the suspension and now it is down to about the loading/unloading height.
While I was standing still doing nothing in a car park tonight, my one year old LR3 went into extended mode again. It does this with increasing frequency - at least once a week.
Another suspension error. The dealer says LR Canada has never heard of this problem and has no idea what it might be. Is that so? No-one else with the same issue?
I took the plunge on 05 SEV8 with Navi, lighting package and RPC. 5000 mile, got it for 35K. Thanks all for the responses. I will following the LR3 forums here and elsewhere. They are all very informative.
I've driven 1,013 miles in the last two days and this 2006 LR3 HSE is running perfectly. I'm just about to pass 2,000 miles and I have about 750 miles to go.
The ride, steering, cruise control, climate control... everything is working perfectly! I'm getting into the mountains so the temperature is really dropping, so this morning, I was covered with frost and the "Heating package" work wonderfully!
I'm keeping up with the "computer gas mileage" compared to my actual (pen and paper). I'll check it once I arrive at my final destination to see if everything is matching up.
Looks like I'm getting 17 mpg at a steady 75 mph.
Have a good day. Mark
2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
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You need to move the system regulary. If you are in NY (New England) and Im in NH and the salt and other stuff tend to get everywhere. Suggest regular underbody squirts with the hose or carwash.
I now have 26,000 miles on my HSE7 and its been indestructible. Yes there are things I'd improve, but it's hard to find an equal! IMHO
The LR3 goes through a snow drift like butter, my Chevy Silverado HD in 4X4 gets stuck. Go figure!
To all of those wondering if the risk with the LR3 is worth it, here's the answer: It's not. Go spend your money on something else.
Man I am glad most of my customers are more patient then that. One of the air suspension issues we had, on a sport not an LR3 but pretty much the same, took three or four visits over the course of about a month I guess and each visit lasted for a couple of days. Now that guy was fairly upset but we calmed him down as best we could and he hasn't had any problems with the car since.
He loves the car now and I have sold cars to a couple of his friends from his referals.
So, yesterday, I swung by the dealership and I compared their respective cupholder inserts. Interestingly, the late build insert has thicker walls.
My dealer said that the parts weren't readily available, and that the parts list doesn't indicate different sizes or a change in part. But he swapped one of mine for one on a demo car; and coffee doesn't spill anymore.
They also added a rubber mat in front of the Navigation screen. Previously, I bought the rubber mat for the non-Navigation vehicle and cut the back off to fit. Now Land Rover does it for you. :shades: The part number for the small "FACIA BIN CENTER RUBBER NAV MAT" is FAH500032XXX
I have an LR3 with 15k on it and am in the process of getting my money back for it. I have had the truck in four times for Suspension faults that cannot be fixed. The last time I had it in for the traveling engineer to look at and they supposedly found the problem, but the next day, I had another one.
I spoke with the sales manager and he privately told me that this is a real problem for this car and that they have a challenge trying to diagnose why this is happening, because they cannot pinpoint "one fix" for it. It seems that the problem is different for each car that they see.
I wrote to Land Rover North America prior to their last attempt to fix it, telling them that I was going to Lemon Law the vehicle. This got a very immediate response from my dealer, who asked me kndly not to write to them again and they would do anything to get me out of the vehicle.
Good luck.
Do any of you know what this offer is and how I can get my hands on it?
Keep us updated as to what your outcome is. I know it must have been very frustrating for you.
Hopefully, the suspension faults did not follow into the 2006 model. I love this SUV everyday that I drive it! Five weeks of ownership and smooth sailing.
Roving along the highways and byways! Mark
New type of compressor is on the way for the suspension in my LR3 and it will be replaced this coming week. I'll keep you up to date on the solution. BTW, I'm only 5' tall, so I use the access height all the time--and the suspension is a big plus in the regular trips I take from Long Island to the mountains in Vermont. I really like all aspects of driving my LR3 and I climb up mountains with it in low gear and use the descent control on the way down. Think it rocks! It holds a wet road like white on rice. But, coming from 4 Volvos in my past, I'm really disappointed in the service I'm getting at LR, the bad communication and the general cluelessness of the Land Rover folks. Maybe my basis of comparison was too good to be true, but you pay this kind of money, they can give you a little straight information.
Still, I'd be hard pressed to say that I wouldn't make the purchase all over again. I was looking at the Volvo SUV and I wasn't as happy with it.
So far so good. In a bad situation, my trusty LR3 handled better than well. Road side assistance came and executed the change...peachy. Nice young man and the LR phone group did fine.
But, was I SHOCKED to discover that I didn't have a full sized spare. What good would the 50 mph donut do me? (Indeed what good does a donut do anyone except a local driver?) I couldn't continue my trip as I had another 200 miles of highway driving to do. So I looked around for a tire dealer. What a pain trying to find someone with a Goodyear or a comp for an 18" rim! (Imagine if I had the 19"?) I finally got a used tire and it got me to Killington. I discovered it had a slow leak in the sidewall so I was back to square one. I've spent the last day on the phone getting the right tire shipped overnight to a Rutland dealer because it's not a regular Goodyear stock item for most. (There are worse things than being stuck an extra day at one's vacation home. Don't be concerned on my account. )
Lesson: I'm not blaming this one on Land Rover, I didn't read the fine print in my spec. Ford is doing anything possible to cut a few dollars and a few pounds (for gas mileage) and this was a design decision. But it's a foolish one as NO SUV should be without a full-sized spare.
When I return home and get my compressor installed (see my response to Darien regarding my suspension fault)I'm going to suck up the grand and order a 5th tire and rim. (This in addition to what I'm spending now to get the replacement tire up to Killington.) My message to you all is DO THE SAME. If you do not have a full sized spare, make the investment. If you need more than your donut, the 18" or 19" rim will make tire replacement a difficult thing, so be prepared to fend for yourself by solving the problem first.
Forewarned is forearmed.
Has anyone had the "sill tread plates" installed?
Since the sills are painted, I put a piece of wide packing tape across it to avoid scratches.
Enjoying every minute of my LR3!
Mark
The sill treads plates are just pieces of aluminum with double-stick tape. Nothing too exciting... My LR3 has them now, since I got them for "free" from someone that didn't want them. :shades:
By the way, it's now day six in the shop and the dealer still has not identified the problem. I've never seen anything like this, ever.
If the sill plates are that easy to install I just might get them. I have seen them advertised for $167 for all four sills at a car site.
Mark
The manager told me to pick up the LR3 and drive it until they locate a compressor. This struck me as odd but he stated it was safe to drive. It may be safe but it drives like it has no suspension. Rocks over all holes and pavement irregularities.
Has anyone else driven their vehicle while amber suspension fault was indicated? If so for how many miles/days.
Anyone else having a problem locating a compressor? Can't dealer just swipe one from a vehicle on the lot?
Depressed in California....
You have know idea how screwed up Land Rovers part system is right now since they just switched their ordering system over to a new one. We had a key ordered for a Range Rover that only shipped with one from the factory and it took over 6 weeks to get here.
Do you know of any new or upcoming incentives that will be available on the LR3? I have heard that the "direct mail" offer was actually from November that got extended. But there has got to be some new promo getting ready to come out...right??
http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR3/Special_offers_financing/Overview- .htm
(and, of course, most car sites)
The top part of the rear door won't close unless i shut it hard. I am not able to open it up properly either. I have to press the button (that is under the black license plate light cover) twice, once to release the lock and 2nd or third time to be able to open the hatch.
All doors (specially the driver's side one) wont shut properly either unless i shut it with some force, dealer said that the truck is air tight thats why. So i did an experiment, left the passengen side door open and then tried shutting the driver's side door and that certainly helped. Any body else experienced this?
And lastly, sometimes the vehicle will sound a chime but there will be no message or light anywhere and its not the park distance control or the temperature drop sound as i am familiar with those. The chime sounds more like the one when you change a setting (suspension height or transfer case speed) or when a warning comes on, etc.
Last couple of days, i have been noticing a squeeking sound when i apply brakes, is that something normal? I have been very very easy on the brakes ever since i picked up the truck knowing that the brake pads need to seat/bed in.
This is the normal behavior. It's actually "press and hold" to open. If you just tap and release, the safety still holds the hatch in place.
"All doors (specially the driver's side one) wont shut properly either unless I shut it with some force, dealer said that the truck is air tight thats why."
Sorry, the truck is not "air tight" -- that's just a silly comment. But yes, air pressure will make doors harder to close. Again, that's normal... you'll get used to the force required to close the last door. If you still think it's "too hard", compare to another LR3 on the lot for reference and then complain if it's a lot worse.
I, too, have the occasional "ding" with no message on the dash. It happened a few times early on but hasn't happened in the last 3 weeks. I would say it has happened about 4 times.
I know the "Freeze" warning will ding, the turning signal will ding after a few minutes, other than that, I don't think I'm doing anything to deserve a warning. I have had a "suspension fault" message on the read-out a couple of times. When I turn the ignition off and back on, the message is gone. The suspension adjustment works perfectly as I use it almost every time I drive it. I like to make sure it works and I'm guilty of playing with it too! (the suspension) :P
I haven't noticed that the doors are hard to close but I would expect our doors to be sealed pretty tight as we can go in water deep enough to cover the top of the wheel. That would put the doors about 1/3rd under water.
My Mercedes ML500 needed a good push to close the doors so I might be used to that so the LR3 is fine.
My steering seems to be straight with no effort at any speed to keep in on the road. I really enjoy the commanding few of this vehicle. I like the straight flat hood because the Mercedes was so slanted you couldn't see it.
Things that I wished the LR3 had:
-motorized pull-in mirrors
-auto up and down for all window buttons at the drivers window control.
-the little tray in the console is wimpy, they should have two separate compartments; one for upper and one for lower.
I'm going to pick up a new cell phone today. I have Verizon wireless so I've picked out the Motorola Razr V3c phone that is very thin. It has bluetooth and a camera. I was never a big fan of having a camera but after thinking about it, it is a good idea. If you see someone acting crazy, you can take a picture of their tag. If you are in a minor fender bender, you can take pictures of the vehicles or even the other driver. The picture phone could come in handy.
Paxton... when I get the ding for the "freeze" warning, there is no message but a snow flake will appear next to the temperature readout.
Roving right along... Mark
Got my Verizon Treo700W Phone/PDA working in the car which has great voice command capability hooked in through the AUX input so everything comes in over the Logic7. Also because its through the AUX I can mute the music as needed.
Voice commands can update you on appointments, contacts, whos calling and many other things.
Get my emails and warning beeps via sound system I have messages.
Check it out "its the business"! My LR dealer couldnt believe it when I showed them what it could do and will suggest that for anyone looking at the LR bluetooth kit which IMHO is a joke!
Mark
Alternatively, they use a separate amplified speaker mounted in a hidden location and use the mute lead on the back of the head unit to "mute" the car stereo.
Virtually all 3rd party BT kits offer more functionality, especially if designed for a specific phone/brand.
RTFB "Read the Fxx Manual" everyone knows what the "AUX and Logic7 is"
Nope, no third party kit just plug in the AUX lead to the phone. Get proficient with the voice commands and off you go.
It's spectacularly simple, works great & (sorry my friend) very embarrassing to show off when you are at the LRNA dealership! Hehe!
I have it on my new M5 and the BMW guys still cant figure it out!
I got the Motorola phone today and stopped by the Land Rover dealer and it took about a minute for them to connect it to the LR3.
I cannot believe how well it works and how clear it is. I guess I'll have to store my 8 tracks and 33.3 albums and get with the real world
Leaving tomorrow on my 1,800 mile drive to California... (a week late leaving).
I've got the LR3 gassed up and ready to go! I'm thinking I'll take about 4 days driving out depending on weather.
I'm bringing my lap top so hopefully I can stay "tuned" to what you guys are talking about.
Mark
Apologies maybe I was a bit abrupt!
The AUX is the connection to the audio system plug in at the the rear of the center console.
The "Logic7" is the audio system.
You have to intiate the sound by pressing the "AUX" button once connected.
Sorry
It wouldn't be enough for most of the people I know... they want buttons.
I knew what you meant and I didn't take it wrong. I'm not a "techy" so some of those things come easier to others.
All a person has to know is a "thimble" more than someone else and they become the expert! To some of my relatives, I'm an expert!
Happy Roving to all! Mark
Here is what I am looking to learn. If any dealers on the page or any others...I would like to know.
1) Any new incentives on the way? (I have had a couple of private replies tell me yes)
2) Is the compressor problem limited to the 2005's or is it now also on the 2006's. If it is on the 2006's, was there an after production date to be aware of?
3) For x-plan leases; is it a static rate or is it still negotiable?
Any education appreciated.
There are also folks (like me) that have had no compressor problems in 13 months. There are also people with vehicles built <60 days ago that do have problems... both LR3 and RRS. (I know a shiny new RRS S/C owner with compressor issues.) In other words, don't worry about the year or the build time.
That is why LRNA does not tell us about them ahead of time because those incentives cost them money.
3. I am not sure what you mean by static rate? The residual is set by the bank we can't do anything with that. For X-Plan I think the price is either 4% or 6% over invoice with no reimbursment from Ford. Pretty good deal for zero work on your part. A/S/Z plans I am pretty sure are invoice with a 4% or 6% reimbursment from ford.
As to rate if you mean the lease money factor yeah you can negotiate that some but if the dealer is making no money from the front end what do you think they are gonna do with the back?
No Snow, No Hunting, No Four-Wheeling, No travel,
Just a big fat truck payment!! :sick:
replacement car: Pontiac G-6 POS
Another suspension error. The dealer says LR Canada has never heard of this problem and has no idea what it might be. Is that so? No-one else with the same issue?
The ride, steering, cruise control, climate control... everything is working perfectly! I'm getting into the mountains so the temperature is really dropping, so this morning, I was covered with frost and the "Heating package" work wonderfully!
I'm keeping up with the "computer gas mileage" compared to my actual (pen and paper). I'll check it once I arrive at my final destination to see if everything is matching up.
Looks like I'm getting 17 mpg at a steady 75 mph.
Have a good day. Mark