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  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Growwise... I am currently driving up to the factory to pick up the motorhome in the CR-V. I'll take delivery of the motorhome on Tuesday.

    One shocking event... the color I ordered has changed and the salesman didn't know about it. But, thank goodness it's OK with me. It's like going into the dealership and expecting to get your brand spanking new Ford Crown Victoria in Powder Blue but getting it in Butternut Creme! :blush:

    There were several updates on the 2008 from 2007 which were nice..... like the new 70 gallon grey water tank (was 56 gal. on the 2007).

    The original color was burgundy w/beige and gold swirls. The new one is dark brown with an ecru base with swirling graphics that fade from brown to rust to gold.... very nice looking with a crisp contemporary look. :D

    I can't believe my salesman didn't realize the color change for the new model. I probably could work a discount in there somewhere but I'm afraid it will backfire on me.

    I have the CR-V so full of stuff you couldn't add a drop of water!!!

    Mark156
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    I am currently driving up to the factory to pick up the motorhome in the CR-V.

    hmmmm... i know the CRV got bigger, but you gonna fit a motorhome in it?? :0

    ;b

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    I saw a CR-V in a beautiful green color yesterday. I liked it alot better that the black one's I have been seeing everywhere.
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Guss, my SIL bought the blue CR-V... and I've seen a lot of those around. At this point, I have rarely seen the Borrego Beige (like mine)... I have seen 4 CR-V's so far on my drive to Oregon... 2 blue, 1 white and 1 black.

    I already have 2,200 miles and still about 500-600 to go before I reach my destination. Once I attach the CR-V to the motorhome, no more mileage while being towed (although the tires, brakes and suspension will be used. I will figure that into the maintenance when the time comes.

    Also.... I like the green CR-V's too!

    I can't believe my gas mileage so far... getting 28-29 with hwy driving. My Land Rover LR3 is getting 18-19 at best on the Hwy... 11 mpg in the city.

    It's nice to fill up the Honda for $35-$39 and drive 300 plus miles! California gas prices are crazy... it's nice to buy regular as all of my other cars use premium. Regular 87 octane gas is running between $3.19 to $3.35 per gallon. :sick:

    Since the motorhome will use diesel, I've noticed that it seems to be cheaper than regular unleaded.

    Happy Motoring! Mark156
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    You're killing me, the best I have done with my Escape(fwd) is 24 mpg. Since most of miles are suburban commuting , I usually average about 20.

    Once you get the motor home make sure they give you the full rundown on how to operate everything. The coldest night of my life was in a motor home on a Penn State football weekend. The people that rented it did not pay attention to when the owner explained how to light the heater. Let's just say it is not a pretty sight to see 3 grown men sleeping next to each other to get warm.
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Once you get the motor home make sure they give you the full rundown on how to operate everything

    Yes, I agree! The factory has set aside two days for me to have access to 2 tech guys if I have any questions or if something is not just right. My salesman will meet me at the factory for delivery. Monaco has the 'white glove' PDI that is supposed to catch anything that is not perfect.

    Also, I have heat pumps for heat so I'm not lighting anything! I even had the propane tank removed as it only worked the counter top stove... I had an electric cook-top put in.

    The hot water is called "Aqua Hot" and runs off diesel fuel or electric. If using diesel, it uses a half a gallon per hour. They say that you have endless hot water if you want it. The Aqua hot system also heats the tile floor to keep the coach's temp more even in cold weather camping.

    I have two heat systems and three roof air systems, so, keeping it "just like home" shouldn't be a problem.

    People are also telling me to get a front cover for the Honda while towing. I certainly have thought about it as I don't want any rock chips, broken headlights or a broken windshield. So, I made a point to start noticing all of the campers towing vehicles and I found that maybe one out of ten might have a shield to protect the front of the toad (dingy). I will certainly check into getting something.

    Mark156
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    The Aqua hot system also heats the tile floor to keep the coach's temp more even in cold weather camping.

    Camping.... Camping??? I thought camping involved pitching a tent in the dark on rocky ground and trying to build a campfire in a downpour! :P
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Since the motorhome will use diesel, I've noticed that it seems to be cheaper than regular unleaded

    I want to know where you are finding diesel cheaper than gas?? LOL Here in Alaska we are paying 30-40 cents per gallon more for diesel than regular unleaded.

    It was nice the other day to fill up the Durango and only spend $40, a similar fill up for the Ram was $60-$80 depending on where the fuel guage was. Not to mention I don't have to hunt for a diesel pump anymore.

    Nice mileage on the CRV btw, wow! Might put those on my short list when it comes time to replace the Durango. :P
  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    Might put those on my short list when it comes time to replace the Durango.

    Is Easter taken yet ? :)

    I got to confess to getting an itch. It's been over a year with Escape and with gas prices inching up I think I can make juicy rationalization to get something a little better on gas.

    Pontiac Vibe's were my runner up before the last purchase. Maybe it's time to give them another look.
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    I like the look of the new CR-V too. I've only seen them in light Blue so far.

    The other day I saw a Burgandy RDX driving past. Wow--for the brief time I saw it, I thought it looked really nice. And looked "expensive" too, which is good, because it is expensive compared to the CR-V. But for all the features it has, the nice interior, the Acura name, & given that reportedly dealers are selling them for less than invoice, it has me interested.....
  • wtd44wtd44 Member Posts: 1,208
    I had a 2003 Saturn Vue FWD with a standard tranny that I bought new. On 19 MAR I fell victim to the super discounts being offered on the 2007 Jeep GC Laredo. I got the auto tranny and AWD that I had been wanting. Am I beyond help? :shades:
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    I had a 2003 Saturn Vue FWD with a standard tranny that I bought new. On 19 MAR I fell victim to the super discounts being offered on the 2007 Jeep GC Laredo. I got the auto tranny and AWD that I had been wanting. Am I beyond help?

    Heck NO, you are not beyond help, lol. Come back when you trade the 07 Jeep GC in 6 months for an 08 Saturn Vue!
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    The Diesel prices that I have seen are along the California coast. In Eureka, CA, these were the prices..

    Reg. 3.35
    Mid. 3.45
    Prem. 3.55
    Diesel. 3.09

    That's the highest that I've seen it... several other stations had diesel for 2.99 with the same above prices for the other grades.

    The new coach has a 150 gallon tank and will be full on delivery (they tell me). So, that should set them back about $450.

    You should check out the CR-V. It has a two layered cargo thingy that is great for packing (luggage on the bottom and other items on top).

    Every time I stop for fuel, it's about $35.00 for a fill-up and I've gone about 300 miles. Can't beat that! :shades:

    Mark156 :D
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • growwisegrowwise Member Posts: 296
    mark,
    Why would you care about fuel efficiency when you are shelling well above 400 grand in owning/storing your new motor home. Sorry.. am just thinking out loud here. :confuse:
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    You should check out the CR-V. It has a two layered cargo thingy that is great for packing (luggage on the bottom and other items on top).

    Now now, you know if I do that it will be a bad idea!! Nah, I'm pretty content with the Durango, most I've spent on a fill up was $50 and that's about 300 miles, can't complain too much. It seems to average around 15 mpg in mixed driving and 19 mpg on the highway, 'bout the same as the diesel was doing and gas is 30 cents cheaper.

    I told hubby that since I had to sacrifice my new truck in order to put us in a better position to expand our business that the next new car I get is gonna be EXPENSIVE!!! We are talking Lexus or Acura here, lol. He just chuckles.

    I don't think my son will let me part with the Durango, he wants it as his first car........that's not that far away really, about 3 years and he has a license, 1 year until his permit. :sick:
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,565
    Mothers Day.. write it down..

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  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Mothers Day.. write it down..

    Nah, too soon. I've been going longer than that between trades. Went 2 years with the Titan AND Zippy. The Ram lasted 8 months. Have had the Sebring technically almost a year although its up for sale.

    I want to pay a car off for a change.......that's my goal! Anybody think I can do it?? No, wait, don't answer that, lol. :P
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,565
    Nah, too soon

    I'll take my chances.. :)

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  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Why would you care about fuel efficiency when you are shelling well above 400 grand in owning/storing your new motor home

    Growwise... the motorhomes gets excellent mileage when parked! LOL! :blush:

    You know, I still don't like to waste money even though the motorhome will get about 6.5 mpg's. Moving my 'hotel suite' from location to location will just cost what it costs. The longer I stay in a location the more efficient it becomes!

    Yesterday I saw a new Monaco Executive ($550,00) tooling down the interstate and they had a new Range Rover as a tow vehicle. The cost on converting a Range Rover for four wheel down towing is quite expensive.. that looked excessive to me.

    If I put lots of miles on the CR-V, I'll still be able to bring decent money in five years. Towing a Range Rover has to kill the value.

    It's funny, people that have the means to buy certain things still have quirky things like taking shampoo bottles from the hotel rooms because the 'paid' for them.

    I save soft drink cans and give them to my housekeeper. I like to be efficient although others might disagree when driving a huge Motorhome down the road. But remember, mine is the new 'clean air diesel' that removes 90% of the particulants from the exhaust. :surprise:

    Mark :D
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • growwisegrowwise Member Posts: 296
    Speaking of diesels, It is quite important to stay on top of engine oil changes.. There is a lot of soot and fuel blowby.. or else, you will have some nasty maintenance issues. You can check out BITOG to get some tips.
  • wtd44wtd44 Member Posts: 1,208
    I'm on my way to a local motorcycle shop with a buddy...
    Temptation is everywhere.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Sounds like my quandry. I just upgraded from a 22ft performance boat with a 454 carb and slightly tweaked boat to a 33ft. performance boat with twin 502s and fuel injection. Milegage went from 2.5mpg to 3-4mpg with more power and twins! :)

    -mike
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/307647267.html

    Sure looks nice from the pics. It has the square--not round--tail-lights--I guess that was the deal in 1976. I need to dig out my Roundels & post questions on the E10 boards & get way up to speed on checking out 2002's if I got serious about this. Fortunately, one of the best indie bmw repair shops in Mass. is practically down the street from me & could check it out. I know buying a 30 y.o. bmw is not for the faint of heart, but if it's as cherry as it looks.......

    In the meantime, any reactions/advice from people here? TIA!
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,280
    Looks like a beaut! Would you have room to garage both it and your daily driver?
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    No, because my crumbling one car garage, is well, failing. But my daily driver can sit outside.

    The guy hasn't e-mailed me back, so it's probably either: A. sold, B. Too good to be true, C. Would drive me nuts & broke with all the work needed, or D. He came to his senses & decided to keep it.

    Still, hope springs eternal. Reading the Roundel has convinced me that I need either a 2002, or an E30 in one of the variations I lusted after when they were current, & almost bought (don't ever read the Roundel!).....
  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,785
    That's been my trick lately...car in the spring, motorcycle in the fall. We're deep into spring and still the same car this year...where's my focus?

    25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd

  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    is a MB E500. Wow. This car is nice. Solid, fast, and we are getting about 22 MPG. Driving this almost makes me want to sell the TSX and just permanantly drive E-class' as my demo.
  • sandman46sandman46 Member Posts: 1,798
    Can you do that? I've been pretty keen on the C class but wish they were as "cheap to keep" as the Japanese brands are. The wife really likes that size car with some luxo touchs such as leather and memory chairs. And I recently saw a C class in a mauvish color...very stricking looking. I could definitely see that car in our garage!

    The Sandman :)
  • growwisegrowwise Member Posts: 296
    My neighbor bought a used ML500 and loves it. I almost bought a 6 year old E430 a few months ago... makes me wonder sometimes.. what if I went that route instead of brand new CUV? I have a soft spot for MBs. Oh well.. life goes on!
  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    Do it ! The 2002's were excellent little cars. In my opinion the heart of what made BMW in this country.

    They are pretty basic cars, how expensive could it be to maintain ?

    PS. I have never owned a BMW of any vintage.
  • geo9geo9 Member Posts: 735
    BIG bucks.........even if you can do it yourself!
    Aside from air,oil filters, spark plugs parts are very pricy.....

    Dealer service..........YEOW $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    My sister and BIL have/had several !
  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Make sure you buy bumper to bumper warranty with a used C Class.

    I have a C240 (pics on my car space page). But it's nowhere close as cheap to run as [non-permissible content removed] cars. :cry:

    I love it though. :blush:

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  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/car/305262432.html

    If anyone has any patience left with my eternal car shopping, this 4Runner looks sweet:

    2005 Toyota 4Runner Sport, Silver, V8, 4.7 liter, 21,321 miles, absolute showroom condition, original owner, truck has been babied, never off road. Garaged, spotless condition. Many extras. Alpine 5.1 DVD and Surround Sound with three LCD display monitors. Back up camera. Viper alarm with remote start. TRD Exhaust and Wheels. $25,500 obo.

    It also has a S/R, apparently, & a cool looking light bar thing. The wheels look awesome. Anyone have an idea of a good offering price?

    (I called the guy with the 2002, it's 2 hours away, & the vintage car thing is tough, esp. when the most you can possibly drive it is 6 mo. a year. Can't get it out of my mind tho).
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    "I save soft drink cans and give them to my housekeeper."

    Did anyone else get a good chuckle out of that one?
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,280
    The aftermarket stuff, especially the remote start, is a negative. The painted brush guard or whatever that is up front looks neat on the 4Runner, though.

    The new Scion XB sort of piques my interest...
  • pernaperna Member Posts: 521
    "I save soft drink cans and give them to my housekeeper."

    Did anyone else get a good chuckle out of that one?


    In a "putting food out for the birds" way, yeah.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,342
    Over the weekend, got to drive my BILs new BMW 550, sport package, 6 speed stick. That was a nice driving car, and wicked fast. I would get a ticket within a week with one of those.

    But, with that much power in a car that size, I would probably get the auto (not SMG) version. Nice shifter, but the clutch is a little stiff, and it just didn't seem as smooth to drive as a smaller car with a stick 9such as my Accord). Plus, it sure has enough power to overcome the TC!

    And I am one of the clutch til I die guys too! Of course, I would have a toy to go along with it with a stick.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    I've long been a BMW 2002 fan. The one you pictured: I like the minilites, don't like the stripes and big bumpers. 1973 was the last year for the "euro-style" bumpers.

    One nice upgrade, that is fairly common, is a 5-spd tranny from a 320 or later BMW. For an interesting look at an incredible 2002 restoration check this out:

    http://www.my2002tii.com/

    Note that this guy put euro bumpers on a later (square tail-light) 2002.

    james
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    When I first got my e24 M6, I got a $450 ticket the first month, from some off-duty statie, who ran my plate & left weird threatening messages on my answering machine (???). I did try to fight it, but only got it reduced a bit in court.

    A year later I got another $400 ticket in R.I., from a state cop who was REALLY ticked off & kept his hand on his gun while yelling at me.

    A couple of years ago I got a $200 ticket in ME for going maybe, 85 in a 65 I think? In my e39 528i. I mean, you could get plenty of tickets in a relatively base model bmw, let alone a new 550i......btw I agree with getting an auto in a car like that.

    How often will your BIL let you drive it? :shades:
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,342
    We don't live close, but he would probably let me drive it when I am up his way. I really just wanted to try it out to see what it was like.

    I would personally prefer a 325i 6 speed. Still plenty quick, but more manageable.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Picked up the new Monaco... everything is going perfectly. I had the towing equipment attached the CR-V this morning and have been towing this afternoon (4 hrs). Now I'm set just like all the other old RV people. :P

    Mark156
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • geo9geo9 Member Posts: 735
    Sounds cool............Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Sold the Sebring, can I go look for another summer car? LOL Only reason I sold it was because the car was a big pain being a 2-dr and I didn't feel like fixing the remaining issues with it.

    If I wanted a fun summer car that was a 4-dr, sunroof, leather, ect, what should I look for? If I was going to buy something it would be older, cheap (less than $4k). I've found a couple Nissan Maximas on Craigslist......no I haven't looked, just glanced at the ads. No more junkyard projects I don't think, too much work.

    On the bright side, I more than doubled my money on the Sebring, so it wasn't all bad.
  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,785
    Who had Memorial Day?

    :P

    25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd

  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Who had Memorial Day?


    Didn't that only count if I traded in the Durango? Or is it if I buy anything else? There was that Protege at the junkyard....... :blush:
  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    But just 2 posts ago you said "No more junkyard projects " :)

    Craigslist seems to be the only place anymore to look for the under $5k car. My local newspaper does not have many fsbo ads anymore. I guess the ad prices are so high only dealers can afford it.

    At least with Craigslist you at least get a picture, which can eliminate 95% of the cars before I read farther.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    But just 2 posts ago you said "No more junkyard projects "

    I know I know, but sometimes they get some nice ones in there. That's basically where our 97 F-250 came from and its a great truck.
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    Vehicle is paid off with 25k miles. Thinking of either getting an extended warranty and keeping or buying or leasing a 528xi or infiniti m35x. I don't know the pricing on the x5 extended warranty yet. Help me rationalize keeping it. My wife wants me to trade it in and get a new vehicle with its warranty.

    Mark
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,565
    Don't you have a year left on the current warranty?

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  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Hello folks.. Picked up the motorhome a week ago and everything is going fine. I have 1,000 miles on it now.. started with 75 miles.

    In the F&I office, they offered an extended 7yr, 70,000 mile warranty for $8,797. After looking at the brochure closely, it didn't seem to cover anything! The engine, transmission and drive-train are covered for 5yrs and 100,000 miles.

    I passed on the warranty for now. I was parked next to a guy who bought an extended warranty with Good Sams (specializing in motorhomes) for one fourth of the price. I'll check into that!

    I committed the number one cardinal motorhome sin today. I hit my head on the bedroom slide-out. It is known that you always wear a baseball cap when working around the motorhome. Tonight, I connected to the water and electricity, filled the water tank and turned to walk back to the Honda to turn off the engine (warming it up to run through the gears per Honda rules)... and banged my head on the corner of the slide-out. It just about knocked me out and I fell to the ground skinning my knees... so, here I sit with a bandage on my head and band-aid patches on my knees... a real good look as I have a black-tie event in 17 days.. I hope that I heal enough to look presentable! :sick:

    Mark156
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
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