Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

28firefighter

Not much of a deal. A dealer over on Leasehackr just did a deal on a 52k Stelvio Ti for 1800 DAS and $374/month plus tax. Dealer is in Erie. 

qbrozen

That 3 wagon is not too cheap but not bad. If it checks out, I would have said 7k is fair.

graphicguy

stickguy said:

I'd buy that one even at that mileage.

I like it, too! Wouldn’t be a bad way to have a grocery getter.

breld

I'm suspicious of the asking price on that wagon only because of what other owners seem to be asking for such a wagon. It's probably a "normal KBB" price, but most times someone with a car like that throws the books out the window - I know I did when I was marketing my 530i sport manual and our E91 m-sport manual.

If it were local to me, I'd be checking it out. I agree the beige interior is my lease favorite too, but the sport package makes all the difference.

28firefighter

And this week on "As the Alfa turns", we find that the gas door mechanism has broken. When "closed" it juts out 1.5 inches and seems to have had it's spring mechanism broken. I can safely say, I've never had a gas door break...

28firefighter

breld said:

I'm suspicious of the asking price on that wagon only because of what other owners seem to be asking for such a wagon. It's probably a "normal KBB" price, but most times someone with a car like that throws the books out the window - I know I did when I was marketing my 530i sport manual and our E91 m-sport manual.

If it were local to me, I'd be checking it out. I agree the beige interior is my lease favorite too, but the sport package makes all the difference.

I looked up the "dealer" it's at - apparently it is a well regarded euro repair shop in Jersey. It also isn't perfect cosmetically - for example, even at 5 feet, I can see the BMW roundel on the trunk is missing.

breld

Typical EAG...

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/754744796/overview/

stickguy

Where in jersey? Not listed and I didn’t feel like sending a contact them message.

breld

Another sport package manual from a private owner who is asking for the moon.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/756224614/overview/

Definitely high, considering my wife's old one sold a few months ago, as you may recall, on BaT for $17,500. And that was an m-sport.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2010-bmw-328/

stickguy

breld said:

Typical EAG...

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/754744796/overview/

That’s insane. I might pay that for a very slightly used new one.

breld

I forgot they offered the E39 wagon with the 8.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/760777730/overview/

It may be a nightmare to own, but this is pretty darn attractive:

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/754054948/overview/

stickguy

I see by link it’s in Montclair. Not that close to me.

breld

I had looked at this M5 up in Vail a few months back. It was a little rough cosmetically, but drove decent.

https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/lafayette-2002-bmw-e39-m5-6-speed/6792543917.html

The private seller was looking for $17-18k for it. Looks like he ended up selling it to this broker - with the bumpers replaced and a hood available from a parts car they have, I'd say most of the cosmetic imperfections were addressed. And I get the sense these guys know what to look for mechanically and seem to have done some necessary maintenance. Not a horrible price, but you know, I have a house to buy.

breld

@pensfan83 - you think the owner of this Prelude wishes he would have taken your $7,000 now?

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-1999-honda-prelude-type-sh/6761975705.html

Makes you wonder what else was wrong with the car that I didn't see when I drove it.

corvette

28firefighter said:

And this week on "As the Alfa turns", we find that the gas door mechanism has broken. When "closed" it juts out 1.5 inches and seems to have had it's spring mechanism broken. I can safely say, I've never had a gas door break...

That's one of the few things that broke on the S80 my parents had. It's common for the (plastic, I think) hinges on that model to fail. Thankfully, the gas door itself wasn't lost, and there was a repair kit available to replace the hinge.

henryn

An Infiniti M37 just turned up in the parking garage I use downtown. Whomever owns it gets to work earlier than I do, so I walk by it most mornings. Very nice looking. Hmmm...

Still don't know where I would park one though.

Mr_Shiftright

breld said:

I'm suspicious of the asking price on that wagon only because of what other owners seem to be asking for such a wagon. It's probably a "normal KBB" price, but most times someone with a car like that throws the books out the window - I know I did when I was marketing my 530i sport manual and our E91 m-sport manual.

If it were local to me, I'd be checking it out. I agree the beige interior is my lease favorite too, but the sport package makes all the difference.

Yeah but asking prices are only the exercise of your First Amendment rights. What they SELL for, on a consistent basis, is the "market", and I think Q is right on the money here.

nyccarguy

breld said:

@pensfan83 - you think the owner of this Prelude wishes he would have taken your $7,000 now?

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-1999-honda-prelude-type-sh/6761975705.html

Makes you wonder what else was wrong with the car that I didn't see when I drove it.

$5800 obo (fairly firm)
No I will not take $4000 or $4500 so dont waste your time.

So $4600? LOL!

Mr_Shiftright

I guess he is fairly adamant about his fairly firm price and will absolutely not take less, maybe.

kyfdx

breld said:

Typical EAG...

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/754744796/overview/

Ridiculous, even for them.

The V-8 wagon could not be had with a stick.

28firefighter

This is tempting...

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1559255

breld

Want another old Saab @28firefighter?

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-1970-saab-4-station-wagon/6784021568.html

28firefighter

Hard pass.

pensfan83

breld said:

@pensfan83 - you think the owner of this Prelude wishes he would have taken your $7,000 now?

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-1999-honda-prelude-type-sh/6761975705.html

Makes you wonder what else was wrong with the car that I didn't see when I drove it.

He's been up and down with the price, last I saw it he was still asking over $7K and I remember you saying he wanted $10K when he first posted the ad. Funny thing is he would probably find a taker on BaT at $8-$9K, ones with mileage like that are usually around that range from what I recall provided there's a full set of maintenance records to go with it. Now he won't take $4,500 but $5,800 is firm. Maybe.

Even with the work mine needed for state inspection I'm still under what I was willing to pay him in August and his asking price now is within a few hundred dollars of my total investment in the one I bought.

stickguy

I like the M5 with all the work done.

qbrozen

breld said:

Want another old Saab @28firefighter?

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-1970-saab-4-station-wagon/6784021568.html

that is super cool, but that price seems mighty ambitious to me. Not that I know the market on them, if there is a market on them.

kyfdx

28firefighter said:

This is tempting...

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1559255

That's nice, but why block out the original prices off of the sticker? Seems like that would be a selling point.

AWD... geez...

kyfdx

breld said:

Want another old Saab @28firefighter?

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-1970-saab-4-station-wagon/6784021568.html

Comes with large selection of used parts

Yep, all of the parts you see on the car.

28firefighter

kyfdx said:

28firefighter said:

This is tempting...

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1559255

That's nice, but why block out the original prices off of the sticker? Seems like that would be a selling point.

AWD... geez...

It's there - just further down in the pictures with the pictures of the keys.

Mr_Shiftright

qbrozen said:

breld said:

Want another old Saab @28firefighter?

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-1970-saab-4-station-wagon/6784021568.html

that is super cool, but that price seems mighty ambitious to me. Not that I know the market on them, if there is a market on them.

Perhaps, if this specimen were absolutely spectacular. If it's a "but car", as in "it's in great condition, BUT" then yeah, the price is pretty ambitious.

They are very rugged, the V-4s, but they have extremely fragile transmissions. You'd almost want to see a receipt for a fresh rebuild.

28firefighter

I'm getting the itch to flip the Viggen. No particular reason other than I have ADD and have gotten a few unsolicited offers to buy it locally. Can't think of much in as good of shape mechanically that I could replace it with, though.

kyfdx

28firefighter said:

kyfdx said:

28firefighter said:

This is tempting...

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1559255

That's nice, but why block out the original prices off of the sticker? Seems like that would be a selling point.

AWD... geez...

It's there - just further down in the pictures with the pictures of the keys.

Ah..Not a lot of options.. Sport, leather and heated seats. Seems like someone was going for the cheapest way to get 300 HP.

It's a 335i, so a lot is standard, but Jet Black is uninspiring (not metallic).

I think the price is high for a 2011 with 100K+ miles.

28firefighter

kyfdx said:

28firefighter said:

kyfdx said:

28firefighter said:

This is tempting...

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1559255

That's nice, but why block out the original prices off of the sticker? Seems like that would be a selling point.

AWD... geez...

It's there - just further down in the pictures with the pictures of the keys.

Ah..Not a lot of options.. Sport, leather and heated seats. Seems like someone was going for the cheapest way to get 300 HP.

It's a 335i, so a lot is standard, but Jet Black is uninspiring (not metallic).

I think the price is high for a 2011 with 100K+ miles.

Agree - I'd be interested for 8-9k. Not at 13k.

kyfdx

28firefighter said:

kyfdx said:

28firefighter said:

kyfdx said:

28firefighter said:

This is tempting...

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1559255

That's nice, but why block out the original prices off of the sticker? Seems like that would be a selling point.

AWD... geez...

It's there - just further down in the pictures with the pictures of the keys.

Ah..Not a lot of options.. Sport, leather and heated seats. Seems like someone was going for the cheapest way to get 300 HP.

It's a 335i, so a lot is standard, but Jet Black is uninspiring (not metallic).

I think the price is high for a 2011 with 100K+ miles.

Agree - I'd be interested for 8-9k. Not at 13k.

Our 2011 X3 with similar original MSRP and 94K miles pulled $9400 on a trade, and that was 20 months ago.

au1994

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-bmw-328i-wagon-5/

Here’s another one to debate...

@28firefighter think really hard about parting with the Viggen. Not likely to find another in the same condition. But if you do, we’d all be happy to live vicariously through your search for another ‘fun’ car!

28firefighter

I think I'll wait until spring at the earliest to do something, if anything. Looking forward to some better driving weather.

coldinohio

Old crew from top gear now the Grand Tour just dropped first new episode today on Amazon; they are in Detroit driving Muscle Cars

pensfan83

Spotless 4th gen Accord and the seller is quite the collector of vintage Honda/Acura vehicles. I had one of these as my first car except it was a coupe, white with a burgundy interior.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-honda-accord/

xwesx

28firefighter said:

I'm getting the itch to flip the Viggen. No particular reason other than I have ADD and have gotten a few unsolicited offers to buy it locally. Can't think of much in as good of shape mechanically that I could replace it with, though.

Do you need to replace it? How much have you used it since your last purchase? It might be one of those things where you let it go and just sit on a little extra freedom for a while.

xwesx

pensfan83 said:

Spotless 4th gen Accord and the seller is quite the collector of vintage Honda/Acura vehicles. I had one of these as my first car except it was a coupe, white with a burgundy interior.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-honda-accord/

Beautiful exterior color. I've always hated the "grabbiness" of the velour interiors, though. We had both a 1985 and a 1992 Camry with that type of interior, and I just never liked it. Seemed like all cars (particularly Japanese) with cloth were like that in that time period.

28firefighter

At this point yes, because my in-laws frequently borrow the Alfa when they're in town and I drive the Saab when that happens. I've put about 2500 miles on it since I bought it.

corvette

pensfan83 said:

Spotless 4th gen Accord and the seller is quite the collector of vintage Honda/Acura vehicles. I had one of these as my first car except it was a coupe, white with a burgundy interior. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-honda-accord/

Arizona... is the seller that guy who owns like seven Acuras? 

corvette

GT showed up on my Amazon Prime last night, so I watched it. Wow... I loved the shots of the Detroit streets, particularly when they drove around the defunct Packard plant. I need to go there someday. Also, I think the supercharger whine on Hammond's Challenger Demon would get annoying pretty quickly. It looked like the Mustang RTR got heat soak after a couple of drag races, leaving the Camaro to easily beat it going forward. 

Does it annoy anyone else how LED lights flicker when they are filming at a very high frame rate? 

Mr_Shiftright

28firefighter said:

I'm getting the itch to flip the Viggen. No particular reason other than I have ADD and have gotten a few unsolicited offers to buy it locally. Can't think of much in as good of shape mechanically that I could replace it with, though.

Why don't you buy a Volvo C30--another one of those Swedish svoopy-doopy cars!

28firefighter

I've had one before, as you know - ideally I get something that has 4 doors so the offspring can ride along, too. A rear facing seat is a huge pain in a 2 door car.

pensfan83

corvette said:

Arizona... is the seller that guy who owns like seven Acuras? 

Yep.

@xwesx the Prelude has that type of cloth but the seats are sculpted with deep side and bottom bolsters I wouldn't move much anyway, even if the covers were made from regular materials so their current composition doesn't bother me too much.

Mr_Shiftright

28firefighter said:

I've had one before, as you know - ideally I get something that has 4 doors so the offspring can ride along, too. A rear facing seat is a huge pain in a 2 door car.

Ohhh, that's right. I forgot. OK, lemme think.

Inexpensive, fun, 4-door car with manual transmission? Is that what we're lookin' for?

au1994

Watching Barrett-Jackson this afternoon.

Prices aside, there’s some nice looking stuff going off already.

tjc78

pensfan83 said:

Spotless 4th gen Accord and the seller is quite the collector of vintage Honda/Acura vehicles. I had one of these as my first car except it was a coupe, white with a burgundy interior.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-honda-accord/

That gen Accord and the 92+ Camry were just such good looking designs. Just about perfect IMO. I like that color too. Not quite as bright as Chrysler's 90's wine color.

It would have looked even better with beige interior.

fintail

I think the 90-93 Accord was peak Accord. The 94-97 wasn't too shabby either.