Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

marcogallo1986

All luck with every brand.

roadburner

My Wrangler hasn't been that bad to maintain, and anyway, if you wan't a small vehicle with serious off-road capability it's the only game in town...

marcogallo1986

 Went to the lot yesterday with my cousin with the store multiple brands of new cars, there’s one side of the Chrysler lot where they keep all the keys in them, got to sort up a few SRT Durango‘s and grand Cherokees, they sound really good and a brand new ram hemi to I started up, and also when I started up some of the classic prior generation ones that they still sell. Also went to where they keep the Ford’s started up a big smile XL Ford F1 50 single cab seemed nice for what it was, start it up a few explore sports with the eagle    Boost engine, didn’t read any of them because they’re brand new cars, with no miles on them just a few test miles I would never do that. Also started up Nico boost gray F1 50 double cab, the raptors were open sat in it but was looking around we couldn’t find where they kept the keys for those, since it’s not push button start it’s an actual key, look in the center consul, they might’ve been in the glove box or something but didn’t look too hard. Ha ha ha also started up some escapes to, the edges surprisingly were all locked   I like last time when we went before Thanksgiving, we were able to start up a current GEN refreshed edge SEL. Those are the only two brands we went to this time. Oh also Sharon some other wranglers to, but window keys inside those, and the one challenger that was open was a purple color with a V-8 in it, but they left the keys, but the battery was dead unfortunately. That was a nice blue color charger and charger parked next to each other, think that light   The color was Paul P5 blue, the lighter blue but I’ve never seen before in person love them both. Also the purples sick too. That was all we did for an hour and a half yesterday afternoon. Luckily no one was around in the lot moving cars or anything, was just us there this time. 

marcogallo1986

 Oh one more thing, set an a nice white collared GT stick shift mustang, but no keys unfortunately started. I looked, because you know I definitely would’ve started that one. 

marcogallo1986

 Nice stick guy on the auto show highlights from the Philly auto show but you went to yesterday. Type your comment

breld

Marco - I bet that SRT Durango sounded great!  I do miss the rumble of my R/T.  

marcogallo1986

Breld.  Yes it did, they don’t have much gas in the cars I think my cousin was tell me it was like 20 miles to empty or something on majority of them but it said. But you know we did rub those SRT Durango‘s a bit even though I didn’t do it with any other cars but it sounded so good. I think my cousin even made a video in the back either exhaust, also did the same with the grand Cherokee. 

stickguy

man, I love this one. Got it all, and great color combo. Maybe I will get an unexpected $40,000 tax refund tomorrow?

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/new/Volvo/2019-Volvo-S60-cherry-hill-nj-b1d117c10a0e0aea01ace074aee3852c.htm

28firefighter

Really pretty color combo. 

But the object of my affection is that Genesis G70 3.3T. 

Michaell

stickguy said:

man, I love this one. Got it all, and great color combo. Maybe I will get an unexpected $40,000 tax refund tomorrow?

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/new/Volvo/2019-Volvo-S60-cherry-hill-nj-b1d117c10a0e0aea01ace074aee3852c.htm

From that angle, the rear looks like a Mazda 3, to me.

pensfan83

28firefighter said:

Really pretty color combo. 

But the object of my affection is that Genesis G70 3.3T. 

Same here, I'm disappointed they won't be at the Pittsburgh Auto Show and no telling when any might be in stock locally.

nyccarguy

stickguy said:

man, I love this one. Got it all, and great color combo. Maybe I will get an unexpected $40,000 tax refund tomorrow?

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/new/Volvo/2019-Volvo-S60-cherry-hill-nj-b1d117c10a0e0aea01ace074aee3852c.htm

Or $22,500 if you wait a few months and buy it as a CPO Demo vehicle with 3,750 miles on it.

ab348

nyccarguy said:

man, I love this one. Got it all, and great color combo. Maybe I will get an unexpected $40,000 tax refund tomorrow? https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/new/Volvo/2019-Volvo-S60-cherry-hill-nj-b1d117c10a0e0aea01ace074aee3852c.htm

Or $22,500 if you wait a few months and buy it as a CPO Demo vehicle with 3,750 miles on it.

Yeah. I think that’s probably sound advice. 

stickguy

Well, I got 3 years of lease left. So give Volvo 2 years to debug, then buy a 1 YO loaner when the tlx goes back!

corvette

Not fond of the blue on that S60. It’s too gray for my taste. 

stickguy

Really pretty in person.

kyfdx

Volvo didn't have the new S60 at the car show. Most of the units they had were low trim models.

stickguy

In philly they had a couple. One was red over blond. Gorgeous.

marcogallo1986

Nice car that you did. Post above. Stick. Guy 

pensfan83

If lease prices on the new S60 approach anything like their predecessor I wouldn't say no to one.

28firefighter

Well - yet another 7-8" of heart attack snow followed by ice hit last night into today. The roads around Seattle/Shoreline are the worst I've seen of anywhere I've lived in 20 years. Power is out all over the place (we went out for 4 hours last night and it has been off and on today). Trees falling.

I suspect it is going to take a good 3-4 days of rain and warm weather to clear this up.

One for the record books.

fintail

Turned to rain in Bellevue by 9pm last night, now just a deep slushy sloppy mess. 4Matic plowed through it yesterday evening and this morning with little fanfare, just a couple spots where stopping wasn't instant, and going up a hill I could hear the system working. Seems 5-10 miles to the north or east, it is a different world. Co-worker lives out in the hills between Renton and Maple Valley. Looks like they got a foot last night, no power, stuck. Office is less empty than yesterday but still a ghost town.

pensfan83

Yikes. Not that you want to be out in that type of situation but as you noted at least you have experience driving in that type of weather. After Sunday I don't care what it does in Pittsburgh for the next 10 days, just need good weather as we're off to Mexico for vacation this year.

28firefighter

fintail said:

Turned to rain in Bellevue by 9pm last night, now just a deep slushy sloppy mess. 4Matic plowed through it yesterday evening and this morning with little fanfare, just a couple spots where stopping wasn't instant, and going up a hill I could hear the system working. Seems 5-10 miles to the north or east, it is a different world. Co-worker lives out in the hills between Renton and Maple Valley. Looks like they got a foot last night, no power, stuck. Office is less empty than yesterday but still a ghost town.

At 9 last night we were still snowing. They really messed up the rain changeover north of the city. We were laying in bed and could hear transformers blowing one at a time in the distance. I looked at the Seattle City Light website and after each pop could watch the outage count increase. Was fun until the pop knocked us out.

graphicguy

kyfdx said:

Volvo didn't have the new S60 at the car show. Most of the units they had were low trim models.

That goes to show you, that's the first time I'd been in an S60 while at the car show. I didn't realize they have a new one out. Wouldn't mind seeing the new one, now.

I need to have my Edmunds diploma revoked.

tifighter

I measured 13" on my back deck last night. And it was a heavy snow.

nyccarguy

I measured 13"

HEY NOW!

tifighter

nyccarguy said:

I measured 13"

HEY NOW!

fintail

Snow forecasts here are hilariously difficult and imprecise. This one didn't seem so bad compared to the surprise blizzards (2008) and busts (every year) of the past.

My office looks out over 405/90. Traffic appears to be moving the speed limit, no doubt less than half normal volumes.

28firefighter said:

At 9 last night we were still snowing. They really messed up the rain changeover north of the city. We were laying in bed and could hear transformers blowing one at a time in the distance. I looked at the Seattle City Light website and after each pop could watch the outage count increase. Was fun until the pop knocked us out.

breld

Well, C&D is certainly gushing on the new S60. Kinda makes me want a Volvo.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a26145842/2019-volvo-s60-t6-by-the-numbers/

ab348

This is about the only place online (aside from marque forums) that I see people gushing over Volvos. Seems odd.

carnaught

breld said:

Well, C&D is certainly gushing on the new S60. Kinda makes me want a Volvo.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a26145842/2019-volvo-s60-t6-by-the-numbers/

@breld, which car is going?

sda

28firefighter said:

fintail said:

Turned to rain in Bellevue by 9pm last night, now just a deep slushy sloppy mess. 4Matic plowed through it yesterday evening and this morning with little fanfare, just a couple spots where stopping wasn't instant, and going up a hill I could hear the system working. Seems 5-10 miles to the north or east, it is a different world. Co-worker lives out in the hills between Renton and Maple Valley. Looks like they got a foot last night, no power, stuck. Office is less empty than yesterday but still a ghost town.

At 9 last night we were still snowing. They really messed up the rain changeover north of the city. We were laying in bed and could hear transformers blowing one at a time in the distance. I looked at the Seattle City Light website and after each pop could watch the outage count increase. Was fun until the pop knocked us out.

Ice is not your friend.

Michaell

Told everyone about the buy bid from vroom last week on the Outback - $22,000.

Got another email from my dealer, suggesting I could lower my payment to $540/mo on a new 2019 Outback 3.6R Limited.

However, this one actually had the trade value listed - $20,325.

I replied that I had a buy bid in hand for $22K from an on-line vendor, but the wife and I are happy to keep our existing car.

Wonder if all this overallowing from vroom and Carvana will force the dealers to up their bids to stay competitive.

henryn

A few years back CarMax was doing the same thing (overbidding), and I didn't notice it having any effect on the dealers. CarMax overbidding does seem to be a relic of the deep dark past these days.

Mr_Shiftright

I wonder if the ongoing trend toward leasing is going to suppress used car prices? Why buy a 2-3 year old CPO car when for the same monthly you can have a brand new one?

breld

carnaught said:

Well, C&D is certainly gushing on the new S60. Kinda makes me want a Volvo. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a26145842/2019-volvo-s60-t6-by-the-numbers/

@breld, which car is going?

  

henryn

Mr_Shiftright said:

I wonder if the ongoing trend toward leasing is going to suppress used car prices? Why buy a 2-3 year old CPO car when for the same monthly you can have a brand new one?

There is a cause and effect relationship in there. Low cost leasing is based on high resale values for 3 year old used cars. If leasing were to drive down the resale values, then leases would become more expensive, and thus less popular, and ...

marcogallo1986

 Yes bro, since you want available now, which cars going? And wealth all those open getting crazy snow fortunate with a little bit of snow and slushy stuff we got today was enough to be a nuisance, and it up staying home I’m just taking Lyft in the late afternoon to the gym and back home, but took longer than usual obviously because of the weather. 

marcogallo1986

 Sorry about the above, broiled since you aren’t a Volvo, the first sentence was supposed to say what car is going to leave the fleet? 

marcogallo1986

 Have a fun vacation pins man 83, 

nyccarguy

Mr_Shiftright said:

I wonder if the ongoing trend toward leasing is going to suppress used car prices? Why buy a 2-3 year old CPO car when for the same monthly you can have a brand new one?

Absolutely.  And don’t forget, the 2-3 year old CPO car is still going to need some maintenance other than oil changes & tire rotations.  The 2-3 year old CPO car also depreciates (although not at a rate as rapid as new).  If you are going to make payments, it might as well be on a new car for a fixed depreciation amount, with as few maintenance dollars spent as possible.

Take my Infiniti.  I love the freakin car.  I put $3K down and financed it for 3 years at 0.99%.  My payments are $612 (& change) per month.  Yes I only have a little more than a year to
go to pay it off.  I’m also fast approaching the 50K mile mark (I’ve got 42K).  I’ve only done oil changes (every 7,500 miles) & a few tire rotations (plus my snow tire change over) plus a brake fluid drain & fill.  I’m going to have to have a coolant drain & fill, new brakes (every time the stability control light flickers, that’s eating brake pads), transmission fluid, differential fluid, plus new summer rubber sooner rather than later.

Right now I’ve got about $4K positive equity.  I put $3K down.  So that leaves me with what after putting the maintenance into the car?  Depreciation on a monthly basis is still pretty steep.

Could I find something I like as much as my infiniti for less than $612 per month that includes 20K miles per year?  I’m sure?  What about $512 per month or $412 per month ($0 cap cost reduction)?  I’m sure I could.

nyccarguy

henryn said:

I wonder if the ongoing trend toward leasing is going to suppress used car prices? Why buy a 2-3 year old CPO car when for the same monthly you can have a brand new one?

There is a cause and effect relationship in there. Low cost leasing is based on high resale values for 3 year old used cars. If leasing were to drive down the resale values, then leases would become more expensive, and thus less popular, and ...

An excellent point as well

sda

henryn said:

A few years back CarMax was doing the same thing (overbidding), and I didn't notice it having any effect on the dealers. CarMax overbidding does seem to be a relic of the deep dark past these days.

Right. I sold two cars to them and was pleased with the amount received.
The last two bids were too low and I sold one car on consignment and just bargained harder for a better trade in value for the other.

breld

marcogallo1986 said:

 Sorry about the above, broiled since you aren’t a Volvo, the first sentence was supposed to say what car is going to leave the fleet? 

Certainly no immediate plans, but I could see my wife getting back into a Volvo wagon with that nice new V60.  

stickguy

they did not have a V60 at the auto show. I may seriously push for that next time to replace the RDX as the family car. If it is as nice as I expect it to be.

corvette

28firefighter said:

I looked at the Seattle City Light website and after each pop could watch the outage count increase. Was fun until the pop knocked us out.

I put a generator transfer switch on my gas furnace and my parents bought me an Energizer inverter generator as an early birthday present. With that and a few extension cords, I can run heat, refrigerator, TV, internet, and a lamp or two. Pretty much all the essentials except hot water (unfortunately, mine is electric, and would take a very large generator to power).

One of my coworkers lives in one of the wealthiest areas of the city and state and lost power for 24 hours a few months back, so having a backup gives me some peace of mind. I'd consider something more comprehensive in terms of a larger generator and a whole house transfer switch, if I lived in a rural area where it was common for power to go out for days at a time. As it stands, I have the generator and a two gallon tank from which to refuel it, which should last a day or two. Beyond that, I'd have to drive the Tahoe to the closest operating gas station to get more fuel--probably not a big deal since I'm in the city.

corvette

nyccarguy said:

I’ve only done oil changes (every 7,500 miles) & a few tire rotations (plus my snow tire change over) plus a brake fluid drain & fill.  I’m going to have to have a coolant drain & fill, new brakes (every time the stability control light flickers, that’s eating brake pads), transmission fluid, differential fluid, plus new summer rubber sooner rather than later.

I am probably due for a brake flush on my G37 (I think they recommend every two years), definitely due on the Tahoe (GM recommends 10 years, which is scary long). I'm not worried about the transmission or diff.

I'm thinking when I eventually replace the Tahoe, if I got something like an F-150, I'd probably drive the G37 even less than I do now. If the Ecoboost will do 0-60 in 6 seconds or less... It's already looking like I won't be able to drive the G on my trip to Omaha this May. I have a dentist appointment the following Monday and will probably drive the Tahoe to pick up my dog from my parents (who live near the dentist's office).

I think I've come out okay, so far, on buying the (very) used Tahoe. Bought it at a fair price from a private party and it's only had a few maintenance needs. 20 months later, it's worth about $3,500 less than what I paid for it. We'll wait and see on the Infiniti.

breld

I know larger wheels are not everyone’s cup of tea, but I’m considering getting these wheels for my Q7.

https://www.audidenver.com/new/Audi/2019-Audi-Q7-a39747d00a0e0ae96a2fe7427f0ad371.htm

Someone on my local Craigslist took them off their new 2019 Q7 and is offering them for a more than fair price.  They have less than 200 miles on them. 

breld

And I actually bought some Audi wheels off Craigslist earlier today for the wife’s A5.  I like the winter setup we got off tirerack, but I’m a sucker for OEM wheels.  So I’ll switch them out this weekend and put up for sale the almost-new set.