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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    And don’t hit those padded poles in your garage :) that’ll leave a mark but it will probably just buff right out :)

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @mjfloyd1,
    That's 2 levels of foundation sill plate gasket. It absorbs impacts pretty well.
    You can tell from the yellowed color the tape has been there for a while(23 years).
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    edited July 2021

    But how well does the black car absorb the impact of the pole? :)

    Im just giving you grief.

    Im more interesting in Sandy’s trial and the “Dumb mistake “

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,326
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @Sandman6472 - what have I missed? I had no idea that you had a forthcoming trial

    I missed it too. Maybe we were under the same rock.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    @jmonroe1 said:
    I missed it too. Maybe we were under the same rock.

    jmonroe

    Now all we have is awkward silence

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @mjfloyd1,
    Not sure, before I figured out the amount of padding needed, I didn't have a black car. ;)
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    Not a big deal really. I was in a turn lane wanting to go left. There were two vehicles in front of me and they had a green light and no oncoming traffic though they both just sat there. I pulled out & around them and proceeded to make the left in front of them. Naturally, all of sudden I hear sirens & a cop with flashing lights behind me, He gave me a ticket after I explained what happened. A bonehead move on my part...yes, absolutely. I got one of those traffic attorneys and have a court date on 9/3. He'll go for me & plead the case so all we can do is wait now.
    Dumb [non-permissible content removed] move on my part and no longer am I going to be in such a hurry. I'll get there when I get there!

    2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618

    Not a big deal really. . .

    Yeah, right.

    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    edited July 2021

    Not a big deal really. I was in a turn lane wanting to go left. There were two vehicles in front of me and they had a green light and no oncoming traffic though they both just sat there. I pulled out & around them and proceeded to make the left in front of them. Naturally, all of sudden I hear sirens & a cop with flashing lights behind me, He gave me a ticket after I explained what happened. A bonehead move on my part...yes, absolutely. I got one of those traffic attorneys and have a court date on 9/3. He'll go for me & plead the case so all we can do is wait now.
    Dumb [non-permissible content removed] move on my part and no longer am I going to be in such a hurry. I'll get there when I get there!

    Don’t forget to report your ticket to the company. Not telling them is one of the few things I’ve seen our drivers get fired over.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    Does Andre practice in FL :) it would be like the irony brothers in court :)

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,197
    tjc78 said:

    Finally hit 10K. Car is two years old in August

    How many miles did you sign up for?

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,950
    edited July 2021

    10k / year. When I got it I was at my old job driving into the office everyday.

    No way I’ll come even close to 30K by next August.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,197
    tjc78 said:

    10k / year. When I got it I was at my old job driving into the office everyday.

    No way I’ll come even close to 30K by next August.

    Road trip!

    But, I feel ya. I got 12K/year on the Jetta, and turned the car in with less than 18K on the odometer.

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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,547
    edited July 2021
    This is $380 more than what we paid for our CR-V 3+ years ago...


    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,283

    A seemingly odd pricing strategy for the Hyundai Santa Cruz in Canada:

    https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/hyundai-announces-canadian-pricing-for-the-2022-santa-cruz

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,281
    edited July 2021
    Assuming the Maverick performs similarly to the Escape and Bronco Sport with the same powertrain, I'm thinking it may be the least expensive new vehicle with AWD in its performance category. Figuring a 0-60 time in the low 6 second range, the AWD Maverick XL 2.0T starts at $24,795 with destination. Am I wrong on this?
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,281
    There's also the same phenomenon with the Maverick vs. Escape/Bronco Sport pricing that we see on larger trucks--if you can live with a bed instead of a taller enclosed cargo area with glass, you'll save thousands.
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,928
    edited July 2021

    Not a big deal really. I was in a turn lane wanting to go left. There were two vehicles in front of me and they had a green light and no oncoming traffic though they both just sat there. I pulled out & around them and proceeded to make the left in front of them. Naturally, all of sudden I hear sirens & a cop with flashing lights behind me, He gave me a ticket after I explained what happened. A bonehead move on my part...yes, absolutely. I got one of those traffic attorneys and have a court date on 9/3. He'll go for me & plead the case so all we can do is wait now.
    Dumb [non-permissible content removed] move on my part and no longer am I going to be in such a hurry. I'll get there when I get there!

    Don’t forget to report your ticket to the company. Not telling them is one of the few things I’ve seen our drivers get fired over.
    After you are convicted right? Until then it's just an allegation (and often a false one).

    If I wanted to be nice I'd say "often a mistaken one."
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    tjc78 said:

    Finally hit 10K. Car is two years old in August

    My 19’ Kia was two years old in March and has 15k miles. The 15’ Mustang on the other hand is 6 years old this month and has a bit less than 15k miles.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    tjc78 said:

    10k / year. When I got it I was at my old job driving into the office everyday.

    No way I’ll come even close to 30K by next August.

    Rent it out on Turo.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    @mjfloyd1,
    Not sure, before I figured out the amount of padding needed, I didn't have a black car. ;)

    I guess more pigment with black leads to more mass and f=ma so more force. Sorry about your color choice. Need at least two more layers me thinks :)
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    edited July 2021

    Not a big deal really. I was in a turn lane wanting to go left. There were two vehicles in front of me and they had a green light and no oncoming traffic though they both just sat there. I pulled out & around them and proceeded to make the left in front of them. Naturally, all of sudden I hear sirens & a cop with flashing lights behind me, He gave me a ticket after I explained what happened. A bonehead move on my part...yes, absolutely. I got one of those traffic attorneys and have a court date on 9/3. He'll go for me & plead the case so all we can do is wait now.
    Dumb [non-permissible content removed] move on my part and no longer am I going to be in such a hurry. I'll get there when I get there!

    Have your lawyer claim that the front car was broken down and the car in front of you didn't realize it, so you were forced to do the logical thing which is to cross the solid line and pass on the right :)

    Or better yet, claim a medical emergency... hard to disprove :)
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    edited July 2021
    andres3 said:

    Not a big deal really. I was in a turn lane wanting to go left. There were two vehicles in front of me and they had a green light and no oncoming traffic though they both just sat there. I pulled out & around them and proceeded to make the left in front of them. Naturally, all of sudden I hear sirens & a cop with flashing lights behind me, He gave me a ticket after I explained what happened. A bonehead move on my part...yes, absolutely. I got one of those traffic attorneys and have a court date on 9/3. He'll go for me & plead the case so all we can do is wait now.
    Dumb [non-permissible content removed] move on my part and no longer am I going to be in such a hurry. I'll get there when I get there!

    Don’t forget to report your ticket to the company. Not telling them is one of the few things I’ve seen our drivers get fired over.
    After you are convicted right? Until then it's just an allegation (and often a false one).

    If I wanted to be nice I'd say "often a mistaken one."
    If it appears on your driver’s abstract it has to be reported before the company does an annual review of your record. When a utility truck backed into my personal car I had to tell them even though their driver admitted 100% fault and they paid for all repairs.

    When I was first interviewed they wanted to know about an accident on my record from 2015. I had no idea what they were talking about until I remembered that some clown had bounced off the back of my school bus while I was stopped.

    NYS state in it’s infinite wisdom just lists that you were “involved” in an accident without any explanation of the circumstances. You could be sleeping in bed and have someone crash your parked car or you could be speeding 100 mph in a school zone and take out a van full of nuns and your record would just say “involved”.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    But then I'd be lying and I'm just not a good liar...never have been and guess I never will be. Honestly, have no idea how this will all play out in court but will just have to wait & see. It's been awhile since my last couple of tickets, again, both were pretty stupid, and hoping to not get anymore going forward. But I am human so I will not promise on something I really have no control over. But, all I can say is that I'll be more cognizant of what's going on around me more which is the best I can say.

    2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    edited July 2021

    I’m confused about the “have no control over”. Either you were speeding or you were not. Either you passed illegally or you didn’t.

    You have control over your choices.

    If you make a mistake, then own it and learn from it and do not repeat it.

    Maybe you mean you have no control on how this case will end up. It will be plead down to a lesser penalty with your lawyer there. Maybe you will get lucky and the policeman will not show up and it will be dropped. Spin the roulette wheel.

    I’m genuinely confused by your thoughts. You don’t want a new to you car with a bad carfax (accident) but you drive a car with a bad carfax and keep putting off getting a new vehicle with a warranty and no out of pocket expenses.

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,547
    corvette said:

    Assuming the Maverick performs similarly to the Escape and Bronco Sport with the same powertrain, I'm thinking it may be the least expensive new vehicle with AWD in its performance category. Figuring a 0-60 time in the low 6 second range, the AWD Maverick XL 2.0T starts at $24,795 with destination. Am I wrong on this?

    I agree. The Maverick with the 2.0 and AWD options is going to be a performance bargain. The whole Maverick line is a great deal, but a practical and speedy utility vehicle for 25k seems amazing.

    The Civic Si is considered a good deal for a performance vehicle, but the Maverick 2.0 AWD will almost certainly be significantly faster while also costing less.
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,576
    Maverick: I’m not sure why Ford would resurrect the name of a so-so car from the past.
  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    benjaminh said:

    corvette said:

    Assuming the Maverick performs similarly to the Escape and Bronco Sport with the same powertrain, I'm thinking it may be the least expensive new vehicle with AWD in its performance category. Figuring a 0-60 time in the low 6 second range, the AWD Maverick XL 2.0T starts at $24,795 with destination. Am I wrong on this?

    I agree. The Maverick with the 2.0 and AWD options is going to be a performance bargain. The whole Maverick line is a great deal, but a practical and speedy utility vehicle for 25k seems amazing.

    The Civic Si is considered a good deal for a performance vehicle, but the Maverick 2.0 AWD will almost certainly be significantly faster while also costing less.
    I'm confused. Why is everyone saying "AWD"? It will be cheaper, lighter, and faster without AWD.
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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,547
    edited July 2021
    Maybe. But AWD, of course, allows you put down all the power without spinning your wheels.

    In my TLX, as humble as it is when it comes to power these days, if I floor it in Sport mode from a stop the tires will squeal almost like I'm in a 70s cop movie. But my wife's CR-V with similar power with the 1.5T and AWD can put all the power down without squealing the tires.
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,547
    Mercedes says it's going all electric in ten years. This is happening faster than I expected.

    Still seems like there are questions about whether all of these batteries are actually going to be recycled at the end of a vehicle's life. It's technically possible, but is it actually happening? And there are environmental costs for mining the materials that go into the batteries.

    We all know that gas engines have big environmental costs. Electric vehicles are seemingly better overall, but there are still going to be some significant environmental costs in terms of making the batteries and dealing with them when they are worn out.

    If electric vehicles really take off in the next few years then demand for gasoline will slowly start to fall. At some point will this bring falling gas prices?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/mercedes-benz-plans-to-go-all-electric-by-end-of-decade-11626970823

    "Mercedes-Benz Plans to Go All-Electric by End of Decade
    Daimler’s flagship auto maker intends to invest over $47 billion in battery electric vehicles by 2030
    By Dave Sebastian
    Updated July 22, 2021 12:35 pm ET

    Mercedes-Benz AG said it is gearing up to go all-electric by the end of the decade, the latest move by an auto maker to accelerate its transition to plug-in cars.

    The Daimler AG flagship said Thursday that it plans to invest more than €40 billion, or more than $47 billion, between 2022 and 2030 in battery electric vehicles to reshape its business around producing electric vehicles. The target signifies a shift from an electric-first to an electric-only approach, the company said.

    As part of that plan, the company said all newly launched vehicle platforms will be electric-only from 2025, and customers will be able to pick electric versions for every model the company makes. Combustion-engine vehicles will still be available for purchase as long as there is demand, but Mercedes-Benz isn’t planning to develop new models of fuel-powered vehicles beyond 2030, Daimler said.

    The company said eight Mercedes-Benz electric-vehicle models will be made at seven locations on three continents as soon as next year. Mercedes-Benz said it plans to set up eight factories for producing battery cells, as it will need a battery capacity of more than 200 gigawatt hours for the entire vehicle fleet.

    Part of the plan is to expand the company’s charging network for vehicles, it said. Customers will get access to Royal Dutch Shell PLC’s more than 30,000 charge points in Europe, China and North America by 2025, Mercedes-Benz said."
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    Gas might get more expensive since it costs the same to drill, Pump, ship and refine. With a lot lower volume to cover overhead. Plus many gas stations will fold.

    Still a long term issue. The existing stock of ICE will still dominate for a long time, even if some relatively low volume makers stop selling new ones.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198

    But then I'd be lying and I'm just not a good liar...never have been and guess I never will be. Honestly, have no idea how this will all play out in court but will just have to wait & see. It's been awhile since my last couple of tickets, again, both were pretty stupid, and hoping to not get anymore going forward. But I am human so I will not promise on something I really have no control over. But, all I can say is that I'll be more cognizant of what's going on around me more which is the best I can say.

    Your lawyer will plead it down to parking on pavement with a fine. No points.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    One thing that concerns me about electric and to a certain degree hybrid cars, is if they catch on fire, the intensity of the fire seems to be much greater and much harder to extinguish. I don't pretend to know what % that this is happening, but with more on the road this could be a greater problem than anticipated. Our first responders will need to be equipped to better handle these situations.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,701
    edited July 2021
    benjaminh said:

    Mercedes says it's going all electric in ten years. This is happening faster than I expected.

    Still seems like there are questions about whether all of these batteries are actually going to be recycled at the end of a vehicle's life. It's technically possible, but is it actually happening? And there are environmental costs for mining the materials that go into the batteries.

    We all know that gas engines have big environmental costs. Electric vehicles are seemingly better overall, but there are still going to be some significant environmental costs in terms of making the batteries and dealing with them when they are worn out.

    If electric vehicles really take off in the next few years then demand for gasoline will slowly start to fall. At some point will this bring falling gas prices?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/mercedes-benz-plans-to-go-all-electric-by-end-of-decade-11626970823

    "Mercedes-Benz Plans to Go All-Electric by End of Decade
    Daimler’s flagship auto maker intends to invest over $47 billion in battery electric vehicles by 2030
    By Dave Sebastian
    Updated July 22, 2021 12:35 pm ET

    Mercedes-Benz AG said it is gearing up to go all-electric by the end of the decade, the latest move by an auto maker to accelerate its transition to plug-in cars.

    The Daimler AG flagship said Thursday that it plans to invest more than €40 billion, or more than $47 billion, between 2022 and 2030 in battery electric vehicles to reshape its business around producing electric vehicles. The target signifies a shift from an electric-first to an electric-only approach, the company said.

    As part of that plan, the company said all newly launched vehicle platforms will be electric-only from 2025, and customers will be able to pick electric versions for every model the company makes. Combustion-engine vehicles will still be available for purchase as long as there is demand, but Mercedes-Benz isn’t planning to develop new models of fuel-powered vehicles beyond 2030, Daimler said.

    The company said eight Mercedes-Benz electric-vehicle models will be made at seven locations on three continents as soon as next year. Mercedes-Benz said it plans to set up eight factories for producing battery cells, as it will need a battery capacity of more than 200 gigawatt hours for the entire vehicle fleet.

    Part of the plan is to expand the company’s charging network for vehicles, it said. Customers will get access to Royal Dutch Shell PLC’s more than 30,000 charge points in Europe, China and North America by 2025, Mercedes-Benz said."

    That’s fine and a noble effort just as many automakers are doing. I still need to see a plan on covering the US with charging stations. How can we make the family road trip to Disney without charging stations along the way? I guess there will always be a handful of holdouts. Trucks will probably be the last to go full electric so as long as they are making ICE trucks an SUV can (fairly) easily be made off that platform. It will be interesting to see how long American performance icons the Corvette and Mustang last as ICE only.

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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,547
    edited July 2021
    The Goodyear Eagle tires on my TLX are not surprisingly showing considerable wear at 44,000 miles. Still, my amateur eye says maybe 10,000 more miles?


    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,281

    My experience has been that rain and snow traction becomes unacceptable far before the tread starts to look bald.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,586
    I agree... those should be fine until November. But, if you have to get out in the snow, you'll need new ones.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    I replaced the GoodYears on my Accord at 60k They probably had another 10k left but as mentioned rain/snow traction was not as good as I felt comfortable. They were at 4/32 when they were replaced.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Note the fine print in the MB electric announcement is along the lines of "where conditions allow".

    My question about this push is personal charging infrastructure. Those who rent virtually never have it, and my anecdotal observations in recent house shopping also show effectively nothing.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    edited July 2021
    au1994 said:

    benjaminh said:

    Mercedes says it's going all electric in ten years. This is happening faster than I expected.

    Still seems like there are questions about whether all of these batteries are actually going to be recycled at the end of a vehicle's life. It's technically possible, but is it actually happening? And there are environmental costs for mining the materials that go into the batteries.

    We all know that gas engines have big environmental costs. Electric vehicles are seemingly better overall, but there are still going to be some significant environmental costs in terms of making the batteries and dealing with them when they are worn out.

    If electric vehicles really take off in the next few years then demand for gasoline will slowly start to fall. At some point will this bring falling gas prices?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/mercedes-benz-plans-to-go-all-electric-by-end-of-decade-11626970823

    "Mercedes-Benz Plans to Go All-Electric by End of Decade
    Daimler’s flagship auto maker intends to invest over $47 billion in battery electric vehicles by 2030
    By Dave Sebastian
    Updated July 22, 2021 12:35 pm ET

    Mercedes-Benz AG said it is gearing up to go all-electric by the end of the decade, the latest move by an auto maker to accelerate its transition to plug-in cars.

    The Daimler AG flagship said Thursday that it plans to invest more than €40 billion, or more than $47 billion, between 2022 and 2030 in battery electric vehicles to reshape its business around producing electric vehicles. The target signifies a shift from an electric-first to an electric-only approach, the company said.

    As part of that plan, the company said all newly launched vehicle platforms will be electric-only from 2025, and customers will be able to pick electric versions for every model the company makes. Combustion-engine vehicles will still be available for purchase as long as there is demand, but Mercedes-Benz isn’t planning to develop new models of fuel-powered vehicles beyond 2030, Daimler said.

    The company said eight Mercedes-Benz electric-vehicle models will be made at seven locations on three continents as soon as next year. Mercedes-Benz said it plans to set up eight factories for producing battery cells, as it will need a battery capacity of more than 200 gigawatt hours for the entire vehicle fleet.

    Part of the plan is to expand the company’s charging network for vehicles, it said. Customers will get access to Royal Dutch Shell PLC’s more than 30,000 charge points in Europe, China and North America by 2025, Mercedes-Benz said."

    That’s fine and a noble effort just as many automakers are doing. I still need to see a plan on covering the US with charging stations. How can we make the family road trip to Disney without charging stations along the way? I guess there will always be a handful of holdouts. Trucks will probably be the last to go full electric so as long as they are making ICE trucks an SUV can (fairly) easily be made off that platform. It will be interesting to see how long American performance icons the Corvette and Mustang last as ICE only.
    My area just announced a big push to put in many more charging stations including at the convenience store chain where our drivers like to congregate for coffee ( just to maintain driving alertness, you know).

    I know that we will have many volunteers to sit there for the 45 minutes or so it takes to charge the company vehicles.

    More seriously, with the frantic push to take fossil fuel production off line I worry that we will get to a point where existing electrical production won’t be able to keep up with demand. I know the response to that is that most people charge at night during off peak but at some point with millions of EVs that won’t be the case. Will wind and solar pick up the slack and if yes, at what cost?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    SDA, hybrids already cause special problems for firefighters because of the high voltages.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    stickguy said:

    SDA, hybrids already cause special problems for firefighters because of the high voltages.

    Correct, and with the EV being promoted or should I say pushed on the public, this issue will only be worse.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,326

    @corvette said:
    My experience has been that rain and snow traction becomes unacceptable far before the tread starts to look bald.

    On top of that the last little bit of tread wears much faster than the first bit of tread. Who’s going to tell him that? I hope he’s ready when the bill hits.

    Go fund me pages are illegal in here. :(

    jmonroe

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,701

    au1994 said:

    benjaminh said:

    Mercedes says it's going all electric in ten years. This is happening faster than I expected.

    Still seems like there are questions about whether all of these batteries are actually going to be recycled at the end of a vehicle's life. It's technically possible, but is it actually happening? And there are environmental costs for mining the materials that go into the batteries.

    We all know that gas engines have big environmental costs. Electric vehicles are seemingly better overall, but there are still going to be some significant environmental costs in terms of making the batteries and dealing with them when they are worn out.

    If electric vehicles really take off in the next few years then demand for gasoline will slowly start to fall. At some point will this bring falling gas prices?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/mercedes-benz-plans-to-go-all-electric-by-end-of-decade-11626970823

    "Mercedes-Benz Plans to Go All-Electric by End of Decade
    Daimler’s flagship auto maker intends to invest over $47 billion in battery electric vehicles by 2030
    By Dave Sebastian
    Updated July 22, 2021 12:35 pm ET

    Mercedes-Benz AG said it is gearing up to go all-electric by the end of the decade, the latest move by an auto maker to accelerate its transition to plug-in cars.

    The Daimler AG flagship said Thursday that it plans to invest more than €40 billion, or more than $47 billion, between 2022 and 2030 in battery electric vehicles to reshape its business around producing electric vehicles. The target signifies a shift from an electric-first to an electric-only approach, the company said.

    As part of that plan, the company said all newly launched vehicle platforms will be electric-only from 2025, and customers will be able to pick electric versions for every model the company makes. Combustion-engine vehicles will still be available for purchase as long as there is demand, but Mercedes-Benz isn’t planning to develop new models of fuel-powered vehicles beyond 2030, Daimler said.

    The company said eight Mercedes-Benz electric-vehicle models will be made at seven locations on three continents as soon as next year. Mercedes-Benz said it plans to set up eight factories for producing battery cells, as it will need a battery capacity of more than 200 gigawatt hours for the entire vehicle fleet.

    Part of the plan is to expand the company’s charging network for vehicles, it said. Customers will get access to Royal Dutch Shell PLC’s more than 30,000 charge points in Europe, China and North America by 2025, Mercedes-Benz said."

    That’s fine and a noble effort just as many automakers are doing. I still need to see a plan on covering the US with charging stations. How can we make the family road trip to Disney without charging stations along the way? I guess there will always be a handful of holdouts. Trucks will probably be the last to go full electric so as long as they are making ICE trucks an SUV can (fairly) easily be made off that platform. It will be interesting to see how long American performance icons the Corvette and Mustang last as ICE only.
    My area just announced a big push to put in many more charging stations including at the convenience store chain where our drivers like to congregate for coffee ( just to maintain driving alertness, you know).

    I know that we will have many volunteers to sit there for the 45 minutes or so it takes to charge the company vehicles.

    More seriously, with the frantic push to take fossil fuel production off line I worry that we will get to a point where existing electrical production won’t be able to keep up with demand. I know the response to that is that most people charge at night during off peak but at some point with millions of EVs that won’t be the case. Will wind and solar pick up the slack and if yes, at what cost?
    Good points. In addition to the jobs that @nyccarguy mentioned, has anyone looked at the science behind running a coal fired electric plant and the pollution?

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,493

    Right as we were pulling out of the driveway to leave for our PA trip, the Service Light (A1 - oil change/tire rotation) came on in our Pilot. 15% oil
    Life remaining. Down to 10% by the time we got home last night. Got a $59.95 Oil Change/Tire Rotation coupon from the new Acura dealer that opened in town. They moved here from Greenwich (1 town south, once the largest NSX dealer in the world). I called and asked if they can do an oil change & tire rotation on a 2017 Pilot which is the mechanical twin to their MDX. “Sure, bring it down.”

    They have a gorgeous TLX Type S (White/White & Black Interior) sitting outside. A few new MDX Techs & RDXs. The sales manager is outside helping his guys shuffle cars. “How do you like your truck?” I tell him I love it and how it’s my 1st pickup…. He says he’s got a 2020 GMC Sierra with the Duramax. Loves it. He then asks what I’m looking for. I tell him I’m bring our Pilot in for service. “Thanks for stopping by. If you are ever in the market…”

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    edited July 2021
    I have my first service appointment on 7/31 at the VW dealer for the Passat. I am getting the reminder message Service due in 25 days... I will have just driven a little over 4K mi in about 10 months. A record low for me. Hoping my service experience is positive.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,493

    @Sandman6472 - Can we petition the moderators to change your name to rebelwithoutacauseFL? Just kidding. Don’t beat yourself up about it anymore. We all do stupid things when we are in a hurry. About 15 years ago at 7:00 on a Saturday AM in a snowstorm (in my Prelude), I drove around a white Ford Expedition that was literally going 5 mph. Guess what? It was an unmarked police vehicle. I got a ticket for excessive speed (I don’t think I broke 20 mph) & for having a loud muffler. $100 parking fine and no points. Guess how careful I drive in that town to this day?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

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