Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

jmonroe1

qbrozen said:

andres3 said:

The Integra with a 1.5 instead of a 2.0 seems like a mistake.

They need to leave room for a Type R.

Yeah, probably.

jmonroe

qbrozen

I just now watched that video and found the profile familiar. Took me about 30 secs, but then I remembered ...

stickguy

the 1.5 is fine. Car should not weigh that much. It works well in the Si. And of course leaves room for the inevitable hot rod version. I could see a 2.0t S version (FWD) and if they want to go nuts, an AWD RS.

They just need to not use the CVT in this for the non-stick buyers. That will kill this car.

seems otherwise to basically be a hatch version of the new Si with a luxury package option. which frankly works for me, since my wife would like that a whole lot better than the regular Si interior I think! And I want a hatch.

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

andres3 said:

The Integra with a 1.5 instead of a 2.0 seems like a mistake.

They need to leave room for a Type R.

And a Type S

28firefighter

@qbrozen said:
I just now watched that video and found the profile familiar. Took me about 30 secs, but then I remembered ...

Welp. I can’t unsee that now.

tifighter

28firefighter said:

@qbrozen said:

I just now watched that video and found the profile familiar. Took me about 30 secs, but then I remembered ...

Welp. I can’t unsee that now.

I'm with Q, it's not very attractive.

stickguy

Will look better in a darker color without the graphics.

But I think it looks nice, and will age well..

Plus I’m not a kid and don’t really need to drive something that looks like it belongs to my grandson.

sda

stickguy said:

Will look better in a darker color without the graphics.

But I think it looks nice, and will age well..

Plus I’m not a kid and don’t really need to drive something that looks like it belongs to my grandson.

Why not? It is a good way to sport your comb over. Insert humor

stickguy

My hair might be gray, but I still have a full head of it!

ab348

As a member of the Bald community I reject your hairist bias!

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

As a member of the Bald community I reject your hairist bias!

Does that community give you a tax break? It should.

jmonroe

xwesx

jmonroe1 said:

Does that community give you a tax break? It should.

jmonroe

If it did, we might still have some hair!

Sandman6472

I like the new Integra but would also prefer a hatchback. Starting at $30K seems a bit on the high side to be honest but we'll just have to wait & see. It might still come in a bit too long for my side of the garage but maybe it will fit. Was at the BMW/Mini Cooper store in West Palm Beach a few times today and saw a beautiful X2 four door hatch and I'm liking them. Sat in a couple at the dealership a few months back and think it would work size wise but again, a bit on the pricey side. And would have to get a CPO unit as a new one would just be too much to purchase. But then I'd need to give up my "cheap to keep" mantra with my next vehicle. But part of me is saying just get what you want since the amount of miles I do drive is so small anyways.
Guessing it'll boil down to what floats my boat once inventories are back to normal, just like with the Golf, I'll know within a few minutes what the next one will be. Think it was under 5 minutes after I started driving that I said to myself, this will be your next vehicle! Usually, I know when I find the one very quickly after getting some street time. Always turn on the audio system first thing just to get a feel for the sound/power of the supplied unit. Then I like to do the test drive in silence & just listen to how it sounds. But I know pretty quickly and then, usually within around 7 days, it's on my side of the garage and don't look back. The hard part will be deciding from the short list!

corvette

roadburner

My wife saw a 2022 Brooklyn Gray/Tacora Red X3 M40i and suggested I trade the X1 and the 2 Series for it and she'd take the Clubman. Interesting, but I think It would have to be an X3 M to lure me away from the 2er.

jmonroe1

corvette said:

Why do realities always ruin good dreams and turn them into nightmares?

jmonroe

benjaminh

One of the things that Acura teased in the Integra concept some months ago was a rear glass area without visible exterior pillars for the back windows on the sides, which is possible because VW did it with the Arteon. The Arteon design not only looks more elegant from my pov from the outside, but also provides better visibility from the inside. The Integra's design concept also looked more distinct from the Civic hatchback in part because of this, while it seems the actual production Integra will look a bit more similar. I still think the new Integra is going to be a really good car, and one that I'd be interested in if I needed something, but I wish they'd actually delivered on the concept. I realize that going with what's in the concept no doubt would have cost many millions of dollars more, but if you're not going to do it then imho they shouldn't tease us with it in the concept. Tesla also got rid of the exterior pillar for the C window in the model 3, which is the pic on the bottom, although inside of the Model 3 there's still a substantial pillar there.

oldfarmer50

corvette said:

Ha ha ha ha!

qbrozen

Now I’m pondering ordering a Ram TRX. Dealers are offering a hefty discount on custom orders while auction values are $10k-$15k over MSRP. Could be a nice payday.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

Now I’m pondering ordering a Ram TRX. Dealers are offering a hefty discount on custom orders while auction values are $10k-$15k over MSRP. Could be a nice payday.

That’s just nuts. Why would the car companies sell them that cheap when they could just auction them off?

Thursday we picked up a couple of used vehicles from a dealer that the company had bought at retail. One was a pick up which we paid $42k for. Why we bought a truck since they are the most overpriced and the least rentable, I don’t know. 2 years ago we’d never buy a used truck at any price. I’m guessing supplies are so short that we’d buy a skateboard if we could find one.

ab348

Sandman6472 said:

I like the new Integra but would also prefer a hatchback. Starting at $30K seems a bit on the high side to be honest but we'll just have to wait & see. It might still come in a bit too long for my side of the garage but maybe it will fit.

A 2022 Civic hatchback is 179" long so the Acura badge-engineered version will be close to that, probably give or take an inch or two.

benjaminh

Tesla has recently raised the price of the Model 3 another 1k, which means that over the last two years the price has gone up by about 10k. The lowest-priced Model 3 now starts at $46,190 with destination + another thousand or so for a home charger. If you'd like it in red with a white interior that'll be another 3k.

benjaminh

ab348 said:

Sandman6472 said:

I like the new Integra but would also prefer a hatchback. Starting at $30K seems a bit on the high side to be honest but we'll just have to wait & see. It might still come in a bit too long for my side of the garage but maybe it will fit.

A 2022 Civic hatchback is 179" long so the Acura badge-engineered version will be close to that, probably give or take an inch or two.

Yeah, it seems like Acura saved some money by making it fairly close to the Civic hatchback. I personally think the Integra looks a bit better, but.....

jmonroe1

benjaminh said:

Tesla has recently raised the price of the Model 3 another 1k, which means that over the last two years the price has gone up by about 10k. The lowest-priced Model 3 now starts at $46,190 with destination + another thousand or so for a home charger. If you'd like it in red with a white interior that'll be another 3k.

They still make Chevy’s ya know.

jmonroe

qbrozen

@oldfarmer50 said:
That’s just nuts. Why would the car companies sell them that cheap when they could just auction them off?

Thursday we picked up a couple of used vehicles from a dealer that the company had bought at retail. One was a pick up which we paid $42k for. Why we bought a truck since they are the most overpriced and the least rentable, I don’t know. 2 years ago we’d never buy a used truck at any price. I’m guessing supplies are so short that we’d buy a skateboard if we could find one.

I always wonder the same, but I think the manufacturers frown on that.

nyccarguy

@benjaminh said:
Tesla has recently raised the price of the Model 3 another 1k, which means that over the last two years the price has gone up by about 10k. The lowest-priced Model 3 now starts at $46,190 with destination + another thousand or so for a home charger. If you'd like it in red with a white interior that'll be another 3k.

The red is nice!

explorerx4

I wonder if the dealer franchise agreements with the manufacturers makes them exclusive distributors?

au1994

qbrozen said:

Now I’m pondering ordering a Ram TRX. Dealers are offering a hefty discount on custom orders while auction values are $10k-$15k over MSRP. Could be a nice payday.

Is that the pricy one that competes with the Raptor? If so, those things are awesome!

28firefighter

@qbrozen said:
Now I’m pondering ordering a Ram TRX. Dealers are offering a hefty discount on custom orders while auction values are $10k-$15k over MSRP. Could be a nice payday.

Aren’t those north of $75k? Seems like a step change in risk…

Also, if dealers are offering these for discount, won’t that depress the market? Suppose it hasnt happened with 4xE yet…

explorerx4

Once the initial frenzy wore off, I'm sure prospective shoppers are looking at the 10/14 MPG rating a little closer.

sda

With fuel prices at $4 or more in some areas I’d be surprised if there isn’t a trend towards more economical vehicles.

fintail

Remember when Integra sedans had frameless door windows?

The upkick at the end of the beltline/C-pillar window is really a played out cliche now. I am sure the Integra will be a fine car, but styling wise, can't rejoice. At least they didn't make it into another cloned potato CUV like the Eclipse.

benjaminh said:

One of the things that Acura teased in the Integra concept some months ago was a rear glass area without visible exterior pillars for the back windows on the sides, which is possible because VW did it with the Arteon. The Arteon design not only looks more elegant from my pov from the outside, but also provides better visibility from the inside. The Integra's design concept also looked more distinct from the Civic hatchback in part because of this, while it seems the actual production Integra will look a bit more similar. I still think the new Integra is going to be a really good car, and one that I'd be interested in if I needed something, but I wish they'd actually delivered on the concept. I realize that going with what's in the concept no doubt would have cost many millions of dollars more, but if you're not going to do it then imho they shouldn't tease us with it in the concept. Tesla also got rid of the exterior pillar for the C window in the model 3, which is the pic on the bottom, although inside of the Model 3 there's still a substantial pillar there.

qbrozen

@28firefighter said:

@qbrozen said:
Now I’m pondering ordering a Ram TRX. Dealers are offering a hefty discount on custom orders while auction values are $10k-$15k over MSRP. Could be a nice payday.

Aren’t those north of $75k? Seems like a step change in risk…

Also, if dealers are offering these for discount, won’t that depress the market? Suppose it hasnt happened with 4xE yet…

Yes. About 75, and then a $10k discount. With auction values in the $90k zip code.

28firefighter

@qbrozen said:

@28firefighter said:

@qbrozen said:
Now I’m pondering ordering a Ram TRX. Dealers are offering a hefty discount on custom orders while auction values are $10k-$15k over MSRP. Could be a nice payday.

Aren’t those north of $75k? Seems like a step change in risk…

Also, if dealers are offering these for discount, won’t that depress the market? Suppose it hasnt happened with 4xE yet…

Yes. About 75, and then a $10k discount. With auction values in the $90k zip code.

Hypothetically, what’s the lead time? And who are you ordering through?

28firefighter

Actually, don’t tell me. My wife would end me.

xwesx

qbrozen said:

Yes. About 75, and then a $10k discount. With auction values in the $90k zip code.

That's completely insane! Sounds like you better do it.... Do it now!

qbrozen

I feel obligated to wait on the Mach E I have a deposit on. If that falls through, I’ll order the TRX. No idea when it would arrive.

oldfarmer50

xwesx said:

qbrozen said:

Yes. About 75, and then a $10k discount. With auction values in the $90k zip code.

That's completely insane! Sounds like you better do it.... Do it now!

With those numbers he better order 10 of them.

xwesx

That sounds like a tempting speculation. I think, if I was able to get one and never drive it, I might be willing to jump on that bandwagon, too.

tjc78

Terrible picture… but my neighbor across the way at the shore is doing well.

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

I feel obligated to wait on the Mach E I have a deposit on. If that falls through, I’ll order the TRX. No idea when it would arrive.

My problem: By the time I wait and find out if it works out for you, the deal is gone, or not as good.

nyccarguy

My son caught a few shots of this 850csi while we were at a traffic light this afternoon:

stickguy

The Integra is obviously a version of the Civic hatch platform. Just like the original one was! I think they both look fine, but I am much more interested to see how they updated that interior. That is way more important to me. as long as the exterior is not pure ugly, I would be OK with it. Bad interior, can't live with seeing that all the time.

and seats. Need really good seats.

fintail

Somehow the E31 impresses me more than generic supercar du jour. The latter only needs some cash flow, the former used as an apparent DD requires bravery.

qbrozen

FYI, van went bye-bye yesterday. Jeep scheduled for pick up Tues.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

FYI, van went bye-bye yesterday. Jeep scheduled for pick up Tues.

You’re my hero. I’d have to plan for months to make that decision on one car and you do it on two with a snap of your fingers.

ab348

qbrozen said:

FYI, van went bye-bye yesterday. Jeep scheduled for pick up Tues.

You'll be spending lots of time updating your signature on here if all your plans come to fruition.

jmonroe1

qbrozen said:

FYI, van went bye-bye yesterday. Jeep scheduled for pick up Tues.

Ordinarily I’d be concerned for how someone that does that is going to get to the grocery store but in your case that ain’t gonna be a problem.

That sounds like a faster way to make a buck than flipping houses.

jmonroe

Sandman6472

Congrats I guess! Takes me such a long time but after my Tucson debacle back i 2014, I doubt myself too much. But, we'll see how things play out after I test the new Corolla Cross.

Coolant light came on on the Audi yesterday so they stopped t Audi to have it topped off. This morning, found a dollop of oil under the Audi!! So, plan is to give it a few more days and if it continues, will take it to the mechanic & have him see what's up. She's not ready to give up on it which is great, nothing to get anyways. Unfortunately, this seems to happen on German vehicles a bit more often then we'd like. I'm tired of it actually!!

qbrozen

Sprucing up the escape is progressing