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  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    qbrozen said:


    Also if you go with the kind of lighting I think you’ll need your utility will rat you out to the feds because of the usage spike.

    ... and ... they raid her tomatoes? Can't say that concerns me in the slightest.
    You really really don't want a SWAT team conducting a raid at your house. Even if you're 100% innocent.

    About 2 months ago SWAT raided a suspected drug house about a block down from me. A helicopter was circling almost directly overhead, which brought me outside to see what the h-e-double-l was going on. That end of the street was blocked off, lots of police cars, the big SWAT van, SWAT team standing around wearing armor carrying assault rifles, the whole 9 yards. Everything appeared to be over by then, so I went back inside my house. About 10 minutes later, terrific BOOM. A really loud explosion. I walked back down the street and asked one of the uniformed officers "What just happened?"

    It seems one of the SWAT team accidentally set off a flash bang. It blew out half the windows in the house. Luckily no one was injured, at least no ambulances came out.
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,200
    jmonroe1 said:

    xwesx said:

    qbrozen said:


    Also if you go with the kind of lighting I think you’ll need your utility will rat you out to the feds because of the usage spike.

    ... and ... they raid her tomatoes? Can't say that concerns me in the slightest.
    All the growing lamps these days are LED, and they don't spike your electric usage like the old sodium vapors did. a 200W LED cluster puts out a whole lotta light! They look crazy, though, because they tend to be a very specific combination of red and blue spectrum lighting (at least, the good grow lamps are), which is extremely efficient for growing in terms of the light usable to plants.
    How long do you think it will take for reports to surface that artificial light used to grow veggies is bad for our health? It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature.

    jmonroe
    They already say that.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344742334_Artificial_light_impacts_the_physical_and_nutritional_quality_of_lettuce_plants

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    Based on everything I've read, VW needs to revise the haptic controls pronto to something that is more intuitive and easy to use. I find the touch screen controls for even for simple functions as changing radio stations can be distracting as I have to steady my hand to aim for the station icon to make the change. If the road is less than smooth, this may take more than one try. With physical buttons this was not an issue.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    edited March 2022



    How long do you think it will take for reports to surface that artificial light used to grow veggies is bad for our health? It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature.



    They already say that.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344742334_Artificial_light_impacts_the_physical_and_nutritional_quality_of_lettuce_plants

    I don't have time to dive too deep into it, but that study isn't comparing to sunlight. It is comparing different artificial lights.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,327

    jmonroe1 said:

    xwesx said:

    qbrozen said:


    Also if you go with the kind of lighting I think you’ll need your utility will rat you out to the feds because of the usage spike.

    ... and ... they raid her tomatoes? Can't say that concerns me in the slightest.
    All the growing lamps these days are LED, and they don't spike your electric usage like the old sodium vapors did. a 200W LED cluster puts out a whole lotta light! They look crazy, though, because they tend to be a very specific combination of red and blue spectrum lighting (at least, the good grow lamps are), which is extremely efficient for growing in terms of the light usable to plants.
    How long do you think it will take for reports to surface that artificial light used to grow veggies is bad for our health? It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature.

    jmonroe
    They already say that.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344742334_Artificial_light_impacts_the_physical_and_nutritional_quality_of_lettuce_plants
    Damn, no can say I ain’t ahead of the curve about stuff like this.

    Ya think the Outdoor Veggie Growers Farmer’s union sponsored that study?

    jmonroe
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    qbrozen said:

    On the topic of mpg, the WRX does far better than I assumed. Over 28 (per OBC) on a trip that was 80/20 highway/rural. And I run usually 74+ on the highway. For strictly short local driving, it shows 22-23.

    Wow! That's pretty solid. I would say our Forester (and my Q7) are about the same as that; maybe slightly higher, but not by much.
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    jmonroe1 said:


    Damn, no can say I ain’t ahead of the curve about stuff like this.

    Ya think the Outdoor Veggie Growers Farmer’s union sponsored that study?

    jmonroe


    Not that we want to dive too deeply into this, so I'll just say that, in the modern world, it takes all types!

    Consider, for instance, how much less theoretical land is available today for growing food than it was even a century ago. From a traditional sense, every building footprint represents that much less land available for food. Unless, of course, it doesn't.... :hushed:
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    Meanwhile over in the UK the genius govt there is discouraging farmers from growing food crops and wants them to plant trees on their land instead, citing climate change and all that. It seems like insanity to me. Harry Metcalfe goes into it at some length on his Harry's Farm video channel on YT.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    mjfloyd1 said:
    I just got off the phone with my Acura salesperson who stated that they wouldn't be marking up the Integra for orders. I'm considering it, but already know I would want the Type S when that comes out. Thought would be to get an early base Integra at MSRP, have some fun with it, then upgrade it at presumably no loss.

    But that all relies on the current crazy market conditions.

    Plus, there are 3 trim levels...base, A-spec and A-spec w/Tech. You gotta go with the top trim to get the 6sp manual. With the indication being it starts right around $30k, I'm assuming the top trim is around $35-36k. Figure a Type S is $40-45k...I'd go with the Nissan Z.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,703

    @au1994 said:

    Ouch.

    And from the Completely Tone Deaf Department, we got a note at the end of the day yesterday that the Corp office would officially reopen April 4 and all employee’s with an assigned workspace were expected to be in the office that week. No acknowledgment of the past 25 months of supporting the business through major projects and a record year, no acknowledgement of 40 year high inflation, no mention of record high gas prices.

    They also didn’t bother to check and notice that is Spring Break week for all of the school districts around the office. Or maybe they did and don’t care.

    BTW, I was in Tuesday of this week for a meeting with an attorney about a contract so when necessary, we can go in and get it done in person.

    Sorry for the rant…

    Sorry to hear that. That’s really bad. I don’t know what the job market is there, but around here an announcement like that would send attrition rates through the roof.


    The spin cycle is on. No mandates but my boss says he would like a little more face to face interaction. I’ve already told 2 of my employees that are in Material Master Maintenance type work (basically heads down, data entry) that they can remain 100% remote if desired.

    HR dude that sent the email has been strangely quiet today.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    "HR dude that sent the email has been strangely quiet today." He's ducking for cover...

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    au1994 said:



    The spin cycle is on. No mandates but my boss says he would like a little more face to face interaction. I’ve already told 2 of my employees that are in Material Master Maintenance type work (basically heads down, data entry) that they can remain 100% remote if desired.

    HR dude that sent the email has been strangely quiet today.

    It all sounds quite nuts, especially if things (business-wise) have been going well. If the bosses want a weekly/bi-weekly/monthly "team building" day or something, then, by all means.... but to just say, "we're back to the old ways!" is really going to shoot them in the foot.

    I don't know about that area, but I can't even bribe people to work for me anymore. Just my department has had a quarter of its positions in vacancy for a year or more, and cycle after hiring cycle, we cannot attract even one quality applicant. The last time we recruited for any of them, we had at least a half-dozen applicants from which to choose. As such, I try to be careful about tweaking my employees the wrong way...
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  • greg128greg128 Member Posts: 546
    edited March 2022
    Here is a link to a very interesting conversation between Ron Ananian (self described as The Car Doctor) and engineer-physicist Mark Mills about his recent testimony to Congress about our overly optimistic EV future:

    https://www.iheart.com/podcast/214-the-car-doctor-24979701/episode/the-car-doctor-3522--93739882/
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,285
    Employers are busy whining that they can’t find employees, meanwhile, I applied for a position I was interested in and very well qualified for and got back a generic email that the organization had decided to continue its job search. I think some employers are looking for candidates that don’t exist.

    I am thinking the employees at my location who would be eligible to vote for a labor union would probably do it if someone bothered to try to organize. *scratches chin*
  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,703
    corvette said:

    Employers are busy whining that they can’t find employees, meanwhile, I applied for a position I was interested in and very well qualified for and got back a generic email that the organization had decided to continue its job search. I think some employers are looking for candidates that don’t exist.

    I am thinking the employees at my location who would be eligible to vote for a labor union would probably do it if someone bothered to try to organize. *scratches chin*

    Searching for a job is by far the worst job in the world. From the ghosting to interviewing 8 -10 times both in person and on the phone only to be told no to having to regurgitate your resume you just submitted into some on line form, it will drive you mad.

    And I yes, I feel your pain, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve applied to a job that read like my resume and received the canned “Thank you for your inquiry, however…”

    Network, network, network and LinkedIn is your friend.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    My employer faced a wave of resignations when they tried to pull a RTO mandate last year - scared some sense into the old guard, who quickly came up with a hybrid model and offered a couple bonuses to quell the mutiny.
    au1994 said:

    4.89 at Costco for premium.

    Ouch.

    And from the Completely Tone Deaf Department, we got a note at the end of the day yesterday that the Corp office would officially reopen April 4 and all employee’s with an assigned workspace were expected to be in the office that week. No acknowledgment of the past 25 months of supporting the business through major projects and a record year, no acknowledgement of 40 year high inflation, no mention of record high gas prices.

    They also didn’t bother to check and notice that is Spring Break week for all of the school districts around the office. Or maybe they did and don’t care.

    BTW, I was in Tuesday of this week for a meeting with an attorney about a contract so when necessary, we can go in and get it done in person.

    Sorry for the rant…
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    In some fields, the reality is they can't find someone who will do twice as much work and take thrice as much abuse for half of what they should be making.

    In my experience, those complaining they can't find people willing to work are offering either poor wages or a toxic working environment (or both).
    corvette said:

    Employers are busy whining that they can’t find employees, meanwhile, I applied for a position I was interested in and very well qualified for and got back a generic email that the organization had decided to continue its job search. I think some employers are looking for candidates that don’t exist.

    I am thinking the employees at my location who would be eligible to vote for a labor union would probably do it if someone bothered to try to organize. *scratches chin*

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,499

    @qbrozen - the Hydro Blue looks amazing!

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Fun. Is he as quirky as a typical goalie? :)

    Looks like MB sponsored the logo.
    nyccarguy said:

    I took the Highlander on its 1st official road trip from our home in Stamford, CT to Lake Placid, NY. My son played in the 1980 Miracle On Ice Rink this AM. We’ve got 2 games tomorrow and 1 on Sunday. They won 4-0. My son is the goalie.

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,327
    nyccarguy said:

    I took the Highlander on its 1st official road trip from our home in Stamford, CT to Lake Placid, NY. My son played in the 1980 Miracle On Ice Rink this AM. We’ve got 2 games tomorrow and 1 on Sunday. They won 4-0. My son is the goalie.


    I guess I could say, “do you believe in miracles”? But I won’t. Grandson #4 plays for the high school team (he’s a sophomore). He’s also a goalie and shares starting time with a senior. If things go as his coach plans he’ll be the full time goalie next year with not too much goal sharing.

    Good luck with the remaining games.

    jmonroe
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934

    qbrozen said:

    andres3 said:


    3. Make sure those last 2 sessions or 1 last session are worth it.

    It is interesting you say that. The last two 2-day HPDEs I participated in, I left before the last run of the day. I just felt like I had gotten as fast as I was going to get and had a voice in the back of my head saying "hey, you didn't bin the car, you had fun, why press your luck?"
    By the last run most students are pretty tired; that's when you can see some significant "offs."
    Or a younger/less experienced "instructor" on the first session of the first day *typically a Saturday*. Too much adrenaline and not enough warm tires and track.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    nyccarguy said:

    I took the Highlander on its 1st official road trip from our home in Stamford, CT to Lake Placid, NY. My son played in the 1980 Miracle On Ice Rink this AM. We’ve got 2 games tomorrow and 1 on Sunday. They won 4-0. My son is the goalie.


    What is that writing on both sides at the very top of the scoring screen? It doesn’t look like an English alphabet.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,703
    qbrozen said:

    I’m blue, dah bah deee dah bah dye

    Hydro is awesome. My favorite since Snazberry has been discontinued.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934

    au1994 said:

    I assume the ZHP is going primarily because its a stick so there is no saving it.

    Either are solid options. One question is do you have a concern if your primary road trip car is a full EV?

    Basically - having a second car my wife can't drive is a non-starter.

    No concerns - everywhere we would roadtrip to from here has tons of charging infrastructure.
    Would she be open to learning to drive a stick, perhaps at an HPDE weekend?
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934

    au1994 said:

    I assume the ZHP is going primarily because its a stick so there is no saving it.

    Either are solid options. One question is do you have a concern if your primary road trip car is a full EV?

    Basically - having a second car my wife can't drive is a non-starter.

    No concerns - everywhere we would roadtrip to from here has tons of charging infrastructure.
    Would she be open to learning to drive a stick, perhaps at an HPDE weekend?
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    au1994 said:

    4.89 at Costco for premium.

    Ouch.

    And from the Completely Tone Deaf Department, we got a note at the end of the day yesterday that the Corp office would officially reopen April 4 and all employee’s with an assigned workspace were expected to be in the office that week. No acknowledgment of the past 25 months of supporting the business through major projects and a record year, no acknowledgement of 40 year high inflation, no mention of record high gas prices.

    They also didn’t bother to check and notice that is Spring Break week for all of the school districts around the office. Or maybe they did and don’t care.

    BTW, I was in Tuesday of this week for a meeting with an attorney about a contract so when necessary, we can go in and get it done in person.

    Sorry for the rant…
    Sounds like you should put in a request for that week off.
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    edited March 2022
    greg128 said:

    Here is a link to a very interesting conversation between Ron Ananian (self described as The Car Doctor) and engineer-physicist Mark Mills about his recent testimony to Congress about our overly optimistic EV future:

    https://www.iheart.com/podcast/214-the-car-doctor-24979701/episode/the-car-doctor-3522--93739882/

    Interesting discussion!


    Putting aside all of the other impediments, the host seemed to be focused on the real estate needed to put in a "filling station" for EVs (assuming EVs are the majority of on-road vehicles) assuming the need for super-charging at about 40 minutes, and needing about 10x the "pumps" as you have at a typical petrol station. Thing is, there won't be "filling stations" in the traditional sense in the future. It's just infrastructure added to what's already there: Parking lots. People don't want to sit around doing nothing while they recharge, they are going to want these things collocated with sights, stores, entertainment, etc.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,348

    On the scoreboard it says penalty.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,285
    @xwesx - that's kind of a false comparison, the "filling stations" are generally only going to be needed for long trips, so it's not like every gas stop in an ICE powered car is going to be replicated with a fast charge in an EV. Someone using the EV for commuting might never need to use public charging infrastructure unless they take a road trip.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    To me plugging your vehicle every night is like going back to hand crank starters.
    I put fuel in my vehicle and never think about it again until I need to fill up again.
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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,285
    edited March 2022
    Fair point. To me, it's like plugging in your phone to charge (which many people also have to do at least once daily). And if you want to charge to 100% and then visit a quick charger when it's almost at 0, you have the option to do that.
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    NY, my co-workers kid just bought a house in Stamford last year. Seems to like the town very much & it's super close to the city as I recall. I usually stay with family in Westport when I come up north & it's also close to the city. Having our 50th this year in upper Westchester sometime later this year but no firm date has been decided upon yet. Still undecided if I'm going to go at this point but if I do go, plan to spend a good week up there visiting relatives I haven't seen in ages. Last time I was up in your neck of the woods was 2006 so have a lot of catching up to do. Hoping it will be sometime in October so I can see the leaves change but at this point, no date has been reserved for venues or hotels. Would probably get a room in either Mt. Kisco, Armonk or Elmsford depending on how close it'll be. There's also Tarrytown or White Plains so many to choose from.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,330
    nyccarguy said:

    I took the Highlander on its 1st official road trip from our home in Stamford, CT to Lake Placid, NY. My son played in the 1980 Miracle On Ice Rink this AM. We’ve got 2 games tomorrow and 1 on Sunday. They won 4-0. My son is the goalie.


    Congratulations!

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,330
    In Kentucky the Department of Public Advocacy is losing attorneys left and right; the pay is low and it is an absolutely thankless job. I get resumes from attorneys all the time; the problem is, I don't have the budget to hire another full-time assistant. I wish I could, but it's notgonnahappen.com.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,955

    @nyccarguy
    Congrats!

    @qbrozen
    Hydro blue looks great!!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,348
    Was looking at houses yesterday so driving around following the agent place to place. And sometimes ahead of her. At last place she asked “is that a Maverick you are driving?” Turns out here husband is all interested in them and keeps yabbering on about getting one.

    I also passed another on yield road. Even the same color. Looked good!

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    BMW with a recall of a million vehicles due to an engine fire risk:

    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/bmw-recalls-over-million-cars-over-engine-fire-risk
    German carmaker BMW is recalling more than a million vehicles worldwide, citing an issue with its engine ventilation system that can cause it to catch fire.

    Approximately 917,000 sedans and SUVs in the US are being recalled, along with an additional 98,000 cars in Canada and 18,000 in South Korea, a BMW spokesperson told Bloomberg.

    According to the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the cars are vulnerable to an electrical short in their positive crankcase ventilation valve heater. That irregularity can, over time, lead to overheating and even cause a fire -- whether the car is parked or being driven.

    BMW didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. The company indicated in documents that a "remedy is being developed," likely ready by mid-2022.

    The recall, announced Wednesday on the NHTSA website, covers many 3 Series, 5 Series, 1 Series, X5, X3 and Z4 vehicles produced between 2006 and 2013 -- most of which were subject to prior recalls.

    According to BMW, if a driver smells smoke or burning plastic -- or sees smoke wafting from the engine -- they should pull over to a safe location, shut off the engine and exit the vehicle.

    The first fire was observed in 2019, but it was assumed to be an isolated incident, according to the NHTSA recall report. By early 2021, six more incidents had been reported.

    The automaker says that although fires have been rare, it began a voluntary recall last week. Owners of affected vehicles will be notified by letter starting April 25.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,327
    ab348 said:

    BMW with a recall of a million vehicles due to an engine fire risk:

    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/bmw-recalls-over-million-cars-over-engine-fire-risk

    German carmaker BMW is recalling more than a million vehicles worldwide, citing an issue with its engine ventilation system that can cause it to catch fire.

    Approximately 917,000 sedans and SUVs in the US are being recalled, along with an additional 98,000 cars in Canada and 18,000 in South Korea, a BMW spokesperson told Bloomberg.

    According to the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the cars are vulnerable to an electrical short in their positive crankcase ventilation valve heater. That irregularity can, over time, lead to overheating and even cause a fire -- whether the car is parked or being driven.

    BMW didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. The company indicated in documents that a "remedy is being developed," likely ready by mid-2022.

    The recall, announced Wednesday on the NHTSA website, covers many 3 Series, 5 Series, 1 Series, X5, X3 and Z4 vehicles produced between 2006 and 2013 -- most of which were subject to prior recalls.

    According to BMW, if a driver smells smoke or burning plastic -- or sees smoke wafting from the engine -- they should pull over to a safe location, shut off the engine and exit the vehicle.

    The first fire was observed in 2019, but it was assumed to be an isolated incident, according to the NHTSA recall report. By early 2021, six more incidents had been reported.

    The automaker says that although fires have been rare, it began a voluntary recall last week. Owners of affected vehicles will be notified by letter starting April 25.

    I thought they made fuses to prevent electrical shorts from causing problems. Of course they have to be properly sized but that’s a higher level problem.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,330
    edited March 2022

    @corvette said:
    Fair point. To me, it's like plugging in your phone to charge (which many people also have to do at least once daily). And if you want to charge to 100% and then visit a quick charger when it's almost at 0, you have the option to do that.

    Plugging a car in at night was no big deal when we had the i3. It took all of maybe 10 seconds to plug it in at night and unplug it in the morning. My issue is going on long trips; currently the infrastructure for EVs is not even close to being adequate. As I’ve said before, I think that a lot of people won’t consider EVs until their range is 300 miles or better, EV prices are equivalent to IC vehicles(without subsidies), they can be charged to 80% in under 10 minutes, and charging stations are as prevalent as gas stations.
    I do think EVs will eventually prevail, but not for another 20-30 years at best.

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  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    jmonroe1 said:

    ab348 said:

    BMW with a recall of a million vehicles due to an engine fire risk:

    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/bmw-recalls-over-million-cars-over-engine-fire-risk

    German carmaker BMW is recalling more than a million vehicles worldwide, citing an issue with its engine ventilation system that can cause it to catch fire.

    Approximately 917,000 sedans and SUVs in the US are being recalled, along with an additional 98,000 cars in Canada and 18,000 in South Korea, a BMW spokesperson told Bloomberg.

    According to the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the cars are vulnerable to an electrical short in their positive crankcase ventilation valve heater. That irregularity can, over time, lead to overheating and even cause a fire -- whether the car is parked or being driven.

    BMW didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. The company indicated in documents that a "remedy is being developed," likely ready by mid-2022.

    The recall, announced Wednesday on the NHTSA website, covers many 3 Series, 5 Series, 1 Series, X5, X3 and Z4 vehicles produced between 2006 and 2013 -- most of which were subject to prior recalls.

    According to BMW, if a driver smells smoke or burning plastic -- or sees smoke wafting from the engine -- they should pull over to a safe location, shut off the engine and exit the vehicle.

    The first fire was observed in 2019, but it was assumed to be an isolated incident, according to the NHTSA recall report. By early 2021, six more incidents had been reported.

    The automaker says that although fires have been rare, it began a voluntary recall last week. Owners of affected vehicles will be notified by letter starting April 25.

    I thought they made fuses to prevent electrical shorts from causing problems. Of course they have to be properly sized but that’s a higher level problem.

    jmonroe
    This explanation doesn't sound quite right to me either. I expect the full explanation would be quite a bit longer and more complex. I do recall other automotive safety recalls related to fire hazards in the wiring. And I also remember reading an article a few years back (although I can't seem to find it now) which said the wiring harness was the most expensive part of a new car.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,626
    With those years, seems like they are all the six cylinder models, as the turbo-4 started after that.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    Agree about the 20 to 30 year time frame about EV's. I'm the perfect candidate for one as I don't drive that much anymore, maybe 40 miles/week but I'd like at the minimum, 300 miles of range just for those trips I make to Orlando a few times a year. Also, it would be great if manufacturers could subsidize the retrofitting of the homes electrical as I've heard it can cost upwards of $900 to retrofit one's residence. I've read that only Chevrolet might do this for folks who buy either one of the new Bolt's they have now but who knows if they really will cover those costs.
    Time will tell here but do think EV's are the wave of the future and we need to get the infrastructure ready to handle the millions who will eventually own them. But as for myself, just not ready to switch as of yet so hopefully later this year, I'll have another petrol running vehicle.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    corvette said:

    @xwesx - that's kind of a false comparison, the "filling stations" are generally only going to be needed for long trips, so it's not like every gas stop in an ICE powered car is going to be replicated with a fast charge in an EV. Someone using the EV for commuting might never need to use public charging infrastructure unless they take a road trip.

    No, I guess what I'm saying is that you wouldn't need to put in dedicated infrastructure that uses new space for EV charging. Sure, you would need to repurpose some parking lot space for the task, but it would still serve its basic purpose of being a parking lot as well. If anything, you could eliminate the space used by most filling stations because they simply wouldn't be used any longer. Some of the hybrid convenience store/filling station locations might stick around if they are popular among the non-filling crowd, but the rest of them could be repurposed.
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    edited March 2022
    At any rate, when I headed to work yesterday morning, I noticed the sign at the station said diesel was $5.05/gal. That's the very first time that has ever happened (in Alaska, at least). I figured I would go ahead and fill up after work because I was at a half-tank, and, if anything, prices are going to continue to rise for a while. After work, I stopped by again....



    You gotta be kidding me. :(
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