Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

au1994

Dang, take your pick!!

andres3

mjfloyd1 said:

@andres3 said:

“The relationship between speed and crash risk is much less direct and much more complicated to quantify than the relationship between speed and crash severity. There are many additional factors that determine to what extent driving speed affects crash risk. One important factor is the layout and design speed of a road. Some roads can cope with higher driving speeds than others, without having serious consequences for the crash risk. Other important factors include traffic volume and traffic composition. Kloeden et al (1997, 2001, 2002)”

Translation = We have no correlation between speed and crash risk, and what really matters is the roadway. In other words, appropriate speed on appropriate roads is safer than slower. And yes, of course traffic volume and composition matter, those are called real-world conditions Dr./Mr. Kloeden.

Kloeden did this study in rural south Australia. I did not think that you liked international studies? I guess they are ok if they draw a conclusion that you agree with?? 🤣😂

No, you are correct, I particularly find Australia reprehensible when it comes to traffic studies. I don't like Kloeden's writings in general, but I find even some of the most biased studies with crazy abstracts, intros, and conclusions have some good meat and potatoes in the middle of the study. It's hugely important to read beyond the first and last page.

So the studies have some cherries I can pick, not because I agree with them, but because they show a meager attempt at objectivity in an otherwise highly biased study. Acknowledging the short comings of a study is better than pretending everything they write is gospel. The IIHS rarely acknowledges their own shortcomings.

I still scratch my head that the IIHS keeps doubling down on their "Back to the Future" timeline where speed limits never went up in the late 80's or 90's and "XXX" more people would be alive in that alternate future that never happened.

Of course, there are roads where speed limits didn't go up, I'm sure they can be found numerously, but they don't want to crunch the numbers on a real road based on real historical data now do they?

corvette

@andres3 - agree you can’t compare Australian crash data to any other country. The wildlife there includes spiders that are larger than moose. It’d be like driving into a brick wall in the middle of the road.

stickguy

from that angle the front end of the M1 looks a lot like a C4 corvette.

stickguy

corvette said:

@andres3 - agree you can’t compare Australian crash data to any other country. The wildlife there includes spiders there that are larger than moose. It’d be like driving into a brick wall in the middle of the road.

of course you can't count what happens in Australia. They are all driving on the wrong side of the road. No wonder there are more accidents.

andres3

In case anyone including @jmonroe1 is wondering, no, $6/gallon gas isn't making me drive any slower on my commute in the S4.

Though it may be having an effect on traffic in general (ever so slightly).

28firefighter

I think someone asked for pics.

28firefighter

oldfarmer50

28firefighter said:

I think someone asked for pics.

Boy, that’s nice for the price. I wouldn’t call that a hooptie by any stretch.

mjfloyd1

@andres3 said:
No, you are correct, I particularly find Australia reprehensible when it comes to traffic studies. I don't like Kloeden's writings in general, but I find even some of the most biased studies with crazy abstracts, intros, and conclusions have some good meat and potatoes in the middle of the study. It's hugely important to read beyond the first and last page.

So the studies have some cherries I can pick, not because I agree with them, but because they show a meager attempt at objectivity in an otherwise highly biased study. Acknowledging the short comings of a study is better than pretending everything they write is gospel. The IIHS rarely acknowledges their own shortcomings.

I still scratch my head that the IIHS keeps doubling down on their "Back to the Future" timeline where speed limits never went up in the late 80's or 90's and "XXX" more people would be alive in that alternate future that never happened.

Of course, there are roads where speed limits didn't go up, I'm sure they can be found numerously, but they don't want to crunch the numbers on a real road based on real historical data now do they?

Nailed it!

tjc78

@28firefighter
Looks great!

qbrozen

Nice score, @28firefighter

stickguy

very clean looking for that old. Nice buy.

corvette

The thing I never got used to (even after a year or more) on my G37 was that it held lower gears for a very long time before upshifting, even under light acceleration. It made it easy to get the impression that you were accelerating quickly when you weren't and that occasionally caused me problems with merging, etc... I'm not sure whether they all do that, or whether mine had some sort of tune that changed the default shift points and exacerbated the issue. It was otherwise a very enjoyable car.

stickguy

use manual mode?

28firefighter

This has a 5 speed auto vs the 6 or 7 that came with the G37 and Q40. I can safely say this thing feels like it is accelerating quickly because it is.

The final report is that the only things it needs is:
1) Serpentine Belt ($85 installed)
2) Tires need replaced by age (I knew that)
3) Rear brakes at 50% - quoted me $395 installed. Figure I’ll do that in the fall if I still have it.

It gets #1 and #2 next week.

Michaell

28firefighter said:

This has a 5 speed auto vs the 6 or 7 that came with the G37 and Q40. I can safely say this thing feels like it is accelerating quickly because it is.

The final report is that the only things it needs is:

1) Serpentine Belt ($85 installed)

2) Tires need replaced by age (I knew that)

3) Rear brakes at 50% - quoted me $395 installed. Figure I’ll do that in the fall if I still have it.

It gets #1 and #2 next week.

So, what’s the story with the ZHP?

nyccarguy

Nice car @28firefighter !

28firefighter

@Michaell said:
So, what’s the story with the ZHP?

Looking beautiful in the garage at the moment. Needs to go into the shop for a once over and then it’ll go up for sale.

kyfdx

With my wife's G37, you never had to worry if you were going fast.

In the last 20 years, I've probably driven over 100 mph on public roads about 15 times, and 12 of them were in her G37. (about every other time I got in the car, evidently).

au1994

The Infiniti looks great. Congrats!

qbrozen

It is a crime what they have done to Infiniti.

nyccarguy

kyfdx said:

With my wife's G37, you never had to worry if you were going fast.

In the last 20 years, I've probably driven over 100 mph on public roads about 15 times, and 12 of them were in her G37. (about every other time I got in the car, evidently).

Many times I was cruising along at 70 - 75 mph, jabbed the gas pedal, pulled into the left lane to pass a car (or 2 or 3 or 4), and was going well over 100 mph when I glanced down at the speedometer. The scary thing was that the car wasn't even breaking a sweat. It had "long legs" as they say.

au1994

qbrozen said:

It is a crime what they have done to Infiniti.

Nissan in general has struggled. Way behind in tech and new designs and some head scratchers as well…Cube? Kicks? There are some new releases out but I have no idea how they compare.

They really let Infiniti die on the vine though. I looked at a QX a couple of years ago b/c they leased really well. There was a reason for that. The basics weren’t there. CarPlay, heated seats were still an option etc.

ab348

qbrozen said:

It is a crime what they have done to Infiniti.

That's not the only crime Nissan has committed.

28firefighter

I was thinking about that. Even the center stack with the tech package is really nice and doesn’t feel old from a style perspective. Is the tech older? Sure. But it has Bluetooth, aux jacks, navigation, xenon lights, and a backup camera. And it all works. More than adequate for a 14 year old car.

rayainsw

28firefighter -
Congrats on the new [ to you ] G35!
Enjoy.
- Ray
Under a year left on my lease...

jmonroe1

28firefighter said:

I was thinking about that. Even the center stack with the tech package is really nice and doesn’t feel old from a style perspective. Is the tech older? Sure. But it has Bluetooth, aux jacks, navigation, xenon lights, and a backup camera. And it all works. More than adequate for a 14 year old car.

Son #1 bought a ‘13 G37 in ‘15. I went with him to the Cleveland area to get. It had just under 22K miles on it. He took it to a shop not too far from the used car dealer he bought it from for an inspection. The only thing the shop found was it needed brakes. My Son told the dealer to knock off $300 and they had a sale. Deal done.

It’s still running fine and he likes the power. Oh yeah, it has a new front clip thanks to his wife hitting a dear coming off the exit ramp past the toll both a few years ago.

Apparently PA doesn’t require dear to carry insurance so he had to claim that hit on his insurance and pay his deductible. Was a little upset because of that but he still likes the car and plans to keep it a while longer.

You should like yours as much as he likes his. Good luck with it even though you don’t plan to keep it long term.

jmonroe

andres3

100 MPH is frowned upon by Southern CA traffic court judges. They (some) will actually try to suspend your license for 30 days with a straight face.

andres3

kyfdx said:

With my wife's G37, you never had to worry if you were going fast.

In the last 20 years, I've probably driven over 100 mph on public roads about 15 times, and 12 of them were in her G37. (about every other time I got in the car, evidently).

12/15 = 80%

So you drove the G37 24 times?

I suppose 100 MPH was a big deal in the A3, but it's hardly noticeable in the current Audi stable.

I think I had a friend show me that his ancient Accord could still go about 115 MPH with 225,000 miles on the clock, we were young, and that Accord was getting light on it's feet at about 105 so 115 was plenty.

28firefighter

@qbrozen - how long did it take your CCAP accounts to close? They received payment 10+ days ago and still haven't closed my account out.

qbrozen

28firefighter said:

@qbrozen - how long did it take your CCAP accounts to close? They received payment 10+ days ago and still haven't closed my account out.

Really fast both times. I don't know when payment was sent on the TRX. I thought they were waiting on the title thing to clear. They told me to cash my check and I checked 2 days later and the account was closed. With ALGo and the Wrangler, I think it was inside a week.

laurasdada

So, for the fun of it, I did a nationwide search for new Jaguar I-Pace (electric Jag; somewhere Mr. Lucas is laughing his head off). Not surprisingly, there aren't many; 21 on CarGurus. And, here's where the fun starts, some dealers are asking msrp +$5-10k!
Now, you know I've enjoyed a Jag or two recently, but, really? Really? I-Pace? This neutron bomb has generally received good reviews for it's driving experience and unique styling. It's been dinged a bit for range and efficiency, but...really?
Jag corporate should have a talk with its dealers (yeah, blanket statement for most manufacturers!). Not a good look for a marque that hasn't exactly lit up the sales charts and is in process of changing it's paradigm.

corvette

The manufacturers are all wagging their fingers at the dealers over the ADM thing, but none seem to be taking any concrete action.

Michaell

corvette said:

The manufacturers are all wagging their fingers at the dealers over the ADM thing, but none seem to be taking any concrete action.

And, these are the same manufacturers that were cramming new inventory from the factory down the dealer's throats when they couldn't sell anything.

stickguy

Can’t really do much legally it seems.

cdnpinhead

Buy a car. Keep it for 15 - 20 years. Ignore all of this, besides which you have no car payment.

WMMV

Michaell

cdnpinhead said:

Buy a car. Keep it for 15 - 20 years. Ignore all of this, besides which you have no car payment.

WMMV

(sarcasm)

Good afternoon (member name),

Under separate cover, please find our policies regarding membership in this particular automotive thread. As you have repeatedly failed to meet minimum membership guidelines, we are hereby revoking your status and preventing you from further posts in this thread.

Sincerely,

Dewey, Cheatem & Howe
Edmunds External Counsel

(/sarcasm)

28firefighter

cdnpinhead said:

Buy a car. Keep it for 15 - 20 years. Ignore all of this, besides which you have no car payment.

WMMV

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

tifighter

Here's a good one-

Flat Golf on BaT.

jmonroe1

Michaell said:

cdnpinhead said:

Buy a car. Keep it for 15 - 20 years. Ignore all of this, besides which you have no car payment.

WMMV

(sarcasm)

Good afternoon (member name),

Under separate cover, please find our policies regarding membership in this particular automotive thread. As you have repeatedly failed to meet minimum membership guidelines, we are hereby revoking your status and preventing you from further posts in this thread.

Sincerely,

Dewey, Cheatem & Howe
Edmunds External Counsel

(/sarcasm)

When I got one of those letters I thought you guys were kidding.

jmonroe

qbrozen

@tifighter said:
Here's a good one-

Flat Golf on BaT.

That’s sweet. But over $12k already. Ouch

jpp75

laurasdada said:

So, for the fun of it, I did a nationwide search for new Jaguar I-Pace (electric Jag; somewhere Mr. Lucas is laughing his head off). Not surprisingly, there aren't many; 21 on CarGurus. And, here's where the fun starts, some dealers are asking msrp +$5-10k!
Now, you know I've enjoyed a Jag or two recently, but, really? Really? I-Pace? This neutron bomb has generally received good reviews for it's driving experience and unique styling. It's been dinged a bit for range and efficiency, but...really?
Jag corporate should have a talk with its dealers (yeah, blanket statement for most manufacturers!). Not a good look for a marque that hasn't exactly lit up the sales charts and is in process of changing it's paradigm.

A couple of years ago I test drove an Audi eTron when they first came out. I came away disappointed with the driving experience, they tried to make it as close to an ICE as possible and it showed. As I was leaving I saw the Jaguar dealer next door and decided to give the iPace a try, it was night and day from the Audi. Really liked the way it drove. Styling is always subjective but I found it unoffensive. @breld and I looked at them for a while, the lack of range ultimately kept me from pulling the trigger but had I bought it I'm sure I would have enjoyed it for a while.

jpp75

@28firefighter the G35 looks great, especially for it's age. As I mentioned earlier and as others have noted it's a great car all around and certainly doesn't lack for power. If I wasn't a CCBA it's a car I could have kept and enjoyed for many years.

Michaell

Who's up for a little detective work?

nyccarguy

@cdnpinhead said:
Buy a car. Keep it for 15 - 20 years. Ignore all of this, besides which you have no car payment.

WMMV

After 15 years, I’d have approximately 300,000 miles on whatever car I was driving. I’d be spending a fortune on maintenance & repairs. I thought about that a while back. I think the 1 car that I’ve had that I could still be driving if I held on to it was my 2010 TSX. It had 50K on it when I traded it in for the BMW (50K miles), then put 50K on the Legacy, 50K on the Infiniti, and 54K on the Tacoma. If I still had that car it would currently have over 250K miles.

Where’s the fun in that?

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

@cdnpinhead said:

Buy a car. Keep it for 15 - 20 years. Ignore all of this, besides which you have no car payment.

WMMV

After 15 years, I’d have approximately 300,000 miles on whatever car I was driving. I’d be spending a fortune on maintenance & repairs. I thought about that a while back. I think the 1 car that I’ve had that I could still be driving if I held on to it was my 2010 TSX. It had 50K on it when I traded it in for the BMW (50K miles), then put 50K on the Legacy, 50K on the Infiniti, and 54K on the Tacoma. If I still had that car it would currently have over 250K miles.

Where’s the fun in that?

I think the point is, if you compare the costs of the continuous payments versus the maintenance and repair costs for the same period, would you have come out ahead?

Sandman6472

Started therapy today, definitely dealing with BPPV vertigo. Hopefully in a few weeks, it'll be gone. At least we now know what it really is and can treat it properly. Had to sit in the lobby for a good half hour when I was done as I was too dizzy to drive home. Took it slow when I finally left & got home safely. Trust me, wouldn't wish this on anyone!

explorerx4

This part of the VW made me chuckle. "Amenities include wind-up windows,"

corvette

My Prius is 15 years old and has a little over 226,000 miles, so about 15k per year, but it's not evenly distributed. The Carfax and service records are interesting, it looks like the previous owner was driving about 30k per year when she first bought it. I know it's had the hybrid battery rebuilt or replaced twice, and based on the history, I suspect that the first time it died, the car sat parked for a while before it got fixed (I also think this may have been about the same time she said she bought a Gen III Prius, which she didn't like and ended up selling after a while).

I've put about 4,000 miles on it in nine months, so it's living out its old age in a relatively low usage environment.