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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,362
    corvette said:
    that says it sold in 2013. Is it going back up in Houston next week? I did not register so can't see what it sold for last time!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,209
    ab348 said:

    Interesting article on how Ford is able to sell the Maverick so cheaply. Some of the conclusions are challenged in the comments though, so draw your own conclusions. I might want to get the underside sprayed for rust though.

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/a-look-underneath-the-base-ford-maverick-shows-how-ford-can-sell-it-for-just-22-5k

    Probably a good idea for any car driven during winter in the rust belt.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    The Golf came home today as good as new. New coolant and the hood strut taken care of. There were two codes showing it seems. The third cylinder was not firing properly and since I had never changed out the spark plugs, that was done and, no more light. Bill came to almost $400 but drives great now.
    The other code had to do with a tranny problem he's maybe seen a couple of other times. Seems that sometimes, the tranny has no idea what mode it's in. When he attached it all to the computer, it showed it was shifting properly each time. But, since it's such a rare thing to happen, he said to just drive as normal but don't shift down to "N" when coasting to a stop, something I never ever do. Just hope we have no more issues for a long while as it's staying in the herd for awhile longer!

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,292
    stickguy said:


    that says it sold in 2013. Is it going back up in Houston next week? I did not register so can't see what it sold for last time!

    Oof, I didn't check the details since I'm not familiar with that site. I do remember clicking and getting there because someone said Tony's subsequent Escalade was for sale soon, and this link was from a comment saying they would rather have this one, so for some reason I assumed it was also for sale.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,292
    @nyccarguy - that's impressive! A little odd to see a wagon with those proportions, probably partly because the E46 M3 wasn't offered as a sedan.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,824
    corvette said:

    @nyccarguy - that's impressive! A little odd to see a wagon with those proportions, probably partly because the E46 M3 wasn't offered as a sedan.

    I see the M5 wagon conversion, more often. Which looks a lot better, I think. (also, more expensive).

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,967

    @Sandman6472 said:
    The Golf came home today as good as new. New coolant and the hood strut taken care of. There were two codes showing it seems. The third cylinder was not firing properly and since I had never changed out the spark plugs, that was done and, no more light. Bill came to almost $400 but drives great now.
    The other code had to do with a tranny problem he's maybe seen a couple of other times. Seems that sometimes, the tranny has no idea what mode it's in. When he attached it all to the computer, it showed it was shifting properly each time. But, since it's such a rare thing to happen, he said to just drive as normal but don't shift down to "N" when coasting to a stop, something I never ever do. Just hope we have no more issues for a long while as it's staying in the herd for awhile longer!

    Sounds good! I believe your poster buddies here told you to replace those plugs about a year ago!!

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,502

    The Golf came home today as good as new. New coolant and the hood strut taken care of. There were two codes showing it seems. The third cylinder was not firing properly and since I had never changed out the spark plugs, that was done and, no more light. Bill came to almost $400 but drives great now.
    The other code had to do with a tranny problem he's maybe seen a couple of other times. Seems that sometimes, the tranny has no idea what mode it's in. When he attached it all to the computer, it showed it was shifting properly each time. But, since it's such a rare thing to happen, he said to just drive as normal but don't shift down to "N" when coasting to a stop, something I never ever do. Just hope we have no more issues for a long while as it's staying in the herd for awhile longer!

    Glad your Golf is back to it's old "drives great now" self.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,121
    edited October 2022
    nyccarguy said:
    Well…the seller bought it in May of this year, so it’s a flip. The downside for the seller, s/he bought at a time when used cars were high, but they’re now falling.

    I say mid-teen$
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  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234
    breld said:


    corvette said:

    I’m guessing $30k plus on the Integra.

    I can now see the window sticker on my Maverick and it looks like it was invoiced to the dealer on Friday, but no build date yet.

    I don't know...I'm thinking more like $15-20k tops. Miles are low for sure, but not crazy low. And it's been repainted twice (once to yellow and then back to the original black paint).

    The seller should have sprung for a professional photographer - it doesn't present all that great in the pics and videos.

    If anyone is interested, it's in my backyard.
    I'm shocked it's still just at $7K with less than 3 hrs to go.
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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,502
    ronsteve said:

    breld said:


    corvette said:

    I’m guessing $30k plus on the Integra.

    I can now see the window sticker on my Maverick and it looks like it was invoiced to the dealer on Friday, but no build date yet.

    I don't know...I'm thinking more like $15-20k tops. Miles are low for sure, but not crazy low. And it's been repainted twice (once to yellow and then back to the original black paint).

    The seller should have sprung for a professional photographer - it doesn't present all that great in the pics and videos.

    If anyone is interested, it's in my backyard.
    I'm shocked it's still just at $7K with less than 3 hrs to go.
    Me too.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,502

    nyccarguy said:
    $12k.
    I think you are right.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,502
    corvette said:

    I’m guessing $30k plus on the Integra.

    I can now see the window sticker on my Maverick and it looks like it was invoiced to the dealer on Friday, but no build date yet.

    I don't know. It is a '94. It is a driver, not a sub $30K mile '00 or '01.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,502
    ronsteve said:

    breld said:


    corvette said:

    I’m guessing $30k plus on the Integra.

    I can now see the window sticker on my Maverick and it looks like it was invoiced to the dealer on Friday, but no build date yet.

    I don't know...I'm thinking more like $15-20k tops. Miles are low for sure, but not crazy low. And it's been repainted twice (once to yellow and then back to the original black paint).

    The seller should have sprung for a professional photographer - it doesn't present all that great in the pics and videos.

    If anyone is interested, it's in my backyard.
    I'm shocked it's still just at $7K with less than 3 hrs to go.
    A '96 GSR with 157K miles sold for $13,750 on BAT at the end of June. A '94 GSR (Bright Green) with only 64K miles sold on BAT for $20K in May.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,209
    nyccarguy said:

    ronsteve said:

    breld said:


    corvette said:

    I’m guessing $30k plus on the Integra.

    I can now see the window sticker on my Maverick and it looks like it was invoiced to the dealer on Friday, but no build date yet.

    I don't know...I'm thinking more like $15-20k tops. Miles are low for sure, but not crazy low. And it's been repainted twice (once to yellow and then back to the original black paint).

    The seller should have sprung for a professional photographer - it doesn't present all that great in the pics and videos.

    If anyone is interested, it's in my backyard.
    I'm shocked it's still just at $7K with less than 3 hrs to go.
    A '96 GSR with 157K miles sold for $13,750 on BAT at the end of June. A '94 GSR (Bright Green) with only 64K miles sold on BAT for $20K in May.
    What happened a few months ago may not be an indicator of what will happen today or going forward. Yesterday I heard a financial analyst declare that the chip shortage has been over for a while now and it’s just supply chain issues holding up car production. This could mean that the days of sky high prices could be coming to an end.

    Certainly this development means more for more mundane car prices than collectibles but as every day cars drop in price it might drag down these auction cars too.

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  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234
    This guy...https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9Aqnn0kj/2007-volvo-xc70-awd looks like a good one, but the current $13,2 is more than I'd put on it.

    And under "interesting but beyond my sense of adventure" https://carsandbids.com/auctions/307gqd2M/2004-audi-allroad-quattro
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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,292
    I think Tavarish did a video where he limped one of those Allroads home from Kansas. That one looks a lot nicer than his did. The pricing on that Volvo wagon is getting into crazy territory for what it is.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,502
    Integra went for $9,900

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  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234
    nyccarguy said:

    Integra went for $9,900

    Paint issues, radio not working, didn't look like much service history was available either. I can see why it was under what some of the others have been, but still surprising to see it remain in 4 figures.
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  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234
    corvette said:

    I think Tavarish did a video where he limped one of those Allroads home from Kansas. That one looks a lot nicer than his did. The pricing on that Volvo wagon is getting into crazy territory for what it is.

    That Volvo looks like a really good copy, but I still don't know that I could have talked myself any higher than 11 or 12 on it.
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    The new M2.

    453 hp
    Standard 6 speed manual gearbox
    Optional CF roof
    $63,195 base price




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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,290
    What happened to that rear end? Did someone fail to remove some protective pieces installed for shipping?

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,292
    I think the body kit is overdone, especially in the rear.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,428
    ab348 said:

    What happened to that rear end? Did someone fail to remove some protective pieces installed for shipping?

    It is ze 10 KM/h bumper, a new standard in Germany.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    Looks like it will be an easy toyota rebadge. They'll love the rear styling as is.

    Nice to see the grille is a bit subdued compared to other recent bimmers.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,292
    edited October 2022
    qbrozen said:

    Nice to see the grille is a bit subdued compared to other recent bimmers.

    It's pretty bad if that's the best compliment several of us can pay to it... or maybe "oversized bumpers" is the best compliment! :D
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618
    Apparently they've taken a page from Honda's more extreme crap.

    It's clear that I've been getting farther and farther from the target demo for almost everything.

    It's a good thing.
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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,583
    I’d rather have the M3 wagon @nyccarguy posted. So tasteful, understated, muscular, timeless. I like.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,209
    edited October 2022

    The new M2.

    453 hp
    Standard 6 speed manual gearbox
    Optional CF roof
    $63,195 base price




    Aren’t you glad you waited?

    As to the criticism of the rear end, it will only be seen by those who challenge you at the stop light drag strip.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,502
    @roadburner

    Now's your chance my friend. Spec it out, put a deposit down, & order it exactly how YOU want it. This is most likely the last hurrah for a 2 door, gas powered, RWD, 6-Speed, ///M Car.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,919
    nyccarguy said:

    @roadburner

    Now's your chance my friend. Spec it out, put a deposit down, & order it exactly how YOU want it. This is most likely the last hurrah for a 2 door, gas powered, RWD, 6-Speed, ///M Car.

    Agreed 100%. Forget the rear bumper, which I imagine will present better in person anyway. 453 hp, manual 6 speed, for less than $70k optioned up? This is what you’ve been waiting for @roadburner.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,919
    Speaking of RWD manual BMWs…

    https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-2017-bmw-m240i-manual-rwd/7544601341.html

    I’d be a little more interested if it was at least a 2018.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,919
    edited October 2022
    I was browsing local inventory of Mustang Mach-Es and came across an available GT model. Clicked on the “unlock price” option which resulted in a schedule that clearly outlines the MSRP, and the “your price” which was equal to MSRP.

    So, thought I may go check it out…could be a good deal at MSRP and you’d get the “old” tax credit. Made an appointment with a salesperson for yesterday afternoon, got a call in the morning from a sales manager to confirm the appointment. Got there promptly at 4:00. The salesperson has information available on the available new GT and a slightly used one they have in the showroom. Then he mentions something about markups on available units that customers had backed out on. Huh? Oh yeah…$10k markup on Mach-E GTs.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,362
    That’s nice. Even with the unfortunate coal mine interior that tint would have to go though.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,502
    breld said:

    nyccarguy said:

    @roadburner

    Now's your chance my friend. Spec it out, put a deposit down, & order it exactly how YOU want it. This is most likely the last hurrah for a 2 door, gas powered, RWD, 6-Speed, ///M Car.

    Agreed 100%. Forget the rear bumper, which I imagine will present better in person anyway. 453 hp, manual 6 speed, for less than $70k optioned up? This is what you’ve been waiting for @roadburner.
    The way they hold their value coupled with how he takes care of the car, it will be a worthwhile automotive investment.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,121
    nyccarguy said:

    Integra went for $9,900

    WOW. Why do I wish I would have bid on it…..;)
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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,121
    breld said:

    I was browsing local inventory of Mustang Mach-Es and came across an available GT model. Clicked on the “unlock price” option which resulted in a schedule that clearly outlines the MSRP, and the “your price” which was equal to MSRP.

    So, thought I may go check it out…could be a good deal at MSRP and you’d get the “old” tax credit. Made an appointment with a salesperson for yesterday afternoon, got a call in the morning from a sales manager to confirm the appointment. Got there promptly at 4:00. The salesperson has information available on the available new GT and a slightly used one they have in the showroom. Then he mentions something about markups on available units that customers had backed out on. Huh? Oh yeah…$10k markup on Mach-E GTs.

    Man, do I hate that. I think I may have had a conversation with the SM for wasting my time.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,362

    nyccarguy said:

    Integra went for $9,900

    WOW. Why do I wish I would have bid on it…..;)
    That could have been a nice toy to have as a keeper.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    edited October 2022

    breld said:

    I was browsing local inventory of Mustang Mach-Es and came across an available GT model. Clicked on the “unlock price” option which resulted in a schedule that clearly outlines the MSRP, and the “your price” which was equal to MSRP.

    So, thought I may go check it out…could be a good deal at MSRP and you’d get the “old” tax credit. Made an appointment with a salesperson for yesterday afternoon, got a call in the morning from a sales manager to confirm the appointment. Got there promptly at 4:00. The salesperson has information available on the available new GT and a slightly used one they have in the showroom. Then he mentions something about markups on available units that customers had backed out on. Huh? Oh yeah…$10k markup on Mach-E GTs.

    Man, do I hate that. I think I may have had a conversation with the SM for wasting my time.
    100%. And I would have had the printout showing "my price."

    Ford has been cracking down on markups, so I'm sure they'd like to hear if the dealer wasn't honoring their own quoted price with ADM.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,362
    I’m sure that page has fine print disclaimers to cover them.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,502

    nyccarguy said:

    Integra went for $9,900

    WOW. Why do I wish I would have bid on it…..;)
    I'm surprised you didn't order one of those Red PMC TLX Type S

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786

    The new M2.

    453 hp
    Standard 6 speed manual gearbox
    Optional CF roof
    $63,195 base price


    3800 lbs for a base manual. Wow.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,362
    Agreed that RB should pull the trigger. Reward himself for going back to work!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,209
    breld said:

    Speaking of RWD manual BMWs…

    https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-2017-bmw-m240i-manual-rwd/7544601341.html

    I’d be a little more interested if it was at least a 2018.

    The need to mention “moving out of the country” is a classic red flag on a CL ad. Same as the “selling for a friend” claim.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,209
    breld said:

    I was browsing local inventory of Mustang Mach-Es and came across an available GT model. Clicked on the “unlock price” option which resulted in a schedule that clearly outlines the MSRP, and the “your price” which was equal to MSRP.

    So, thought I may go check it out…could be a good deal at MSRP and you’d get the “old” tax credit. Made an appointment with a salesperson for yesterday afternoon, got a call in the morning from a sales manager to confirm the appointment. Got there promptly at 4:00. The salesperson has information available on the available new GT and a slightly used one they have in the showroom. Then he mentions something about markups on available units that customers had backed out on. Huh? Oh yeah…$10k markup on Mach-E GTs.

    Do these dealers think that lying to get you into the showroom only to pump you for an extra $10k will endear you to them? Personally, if they wasted my time with a lie like that I’d be hard pressed to not throw furniture.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,688
    corvette said:

    I think the body kit is overdone, especially in the rear.

    Yes; it definitely lost its touch of elegance.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,362

    I think it might look better in. Dark color.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,362
    Good luck selling it. You haven’t yet tried to sell one of your imports, right?

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