Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

mjfloyd1

@roadburner said:
The new M2.

453 hp
Standard 6 speed manual gearbox
Optional CF roof
$63,195 base price

The rear bumper on the red M2 looks much better than the same bumper on a light blue one, believe it or not. Probably black would hide the weirdness best

qbrozen

@stickguy said:
Good luck selling it. You haven’t yet tried to sell one of your imports, right?

Correct

stickguy

If I learned anything from the Maverick saga, it’s to order anything you might possibly want. Because you will have lots (and lots) of time to decide before it arrives, and if you change your mind, the dealer won’t care at all!

tifighter

mjfloyd1 said:

The rear bumper on the red M2 looks much better than the same bumper on a light blue one, believe it or not.

Yeah, but...

stickguy

qbrozen said:

@stickguy said:

Good luck selling it. You haven’t yet tried to sell one of your imports, right?

Correct

I should have you find me a cheap convertible toy. As long as the steering wheel is on the correct side. And there is some chance of finding parts and a mechanic that has ever seen one!

I’m guessing the safest bet is a brand that was sold here, and a model that had most mechanicals shared with a model that was too. That mostly means body panels and trim is hard to find.

stickguy

I don’t think the M2 looks that bad. Definitely not hiding what it is.

Michaell

@qbrozen, can you re-post pictures of the Gloria?

qbrozen

sda

Was the Gloria the base for the first Infiniti I series?

Michaell

Thanks! You mentioned it has the VQ engine - same as the Maxima, correct?

qbrozen

Yes, the VQ.
I think closest comparison is the J30 and M30, since the Gloria is RWD.

sda

qbrozen said:

Yes, the VQ.
I think closest comparison is the J30 and M30, since the Gloria is RWD.

Oh, that's right, foggy memory.

Michaell

qbrozen said:

Yes, the VQ.
I think closest comparison is the J30 and M30, since the Gloria is RWD.

Got it, thanks.

My best friend in CA had a J30 for many years, got it up to over 200K, IIRC, before it gave up the ghost.

Now he has a G35.

mjfloyd1

@tifighter said:
Yeah, but...

I didn’t say that it looked good. I said that it looked better than the light blue one🤣😂

venture

qbrozen said:

OMG!! Oh, happy day! I have received a title to the Gloria.

Almost 2 months have gone by and I still don't have the title to the Ascent. Grr

qbrozen

venture said:

qbrozen said:

OMG!! Oh, happy day! I have received a title to the Gloria.

Almost 2 months have gone by and I still don't have the title to the Ascent. Grr

only 3.5 mos since I picked up the Nissan at the port.

Pajero was much much quicker on my part to get the correct paperwork, so that will be the true test.

laurasdada

breld said:

Speaking of RWD manual BMWs…

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/denver-2017-bmw-m240i-manual-rwd/7544601341.html

I’d be a little more interested if it was at least a 2018.

Is there an issue with the 2017s?

tjc78

@qbrozen
Pretty sure I saw a Gloria here in Turks and Caicos. If not it was very similar.

roadburner

So my salesperson is going to notify me when she learns what their M2 allocation will be. I definitely want it in Toronto Red, with the manual(of course) as well as the CF roof- along with the HUD, M Carbon seats, and the M Drivers package. So we'll see- although a friend whose opinion I trust told me I need to check out an AMG CLA45- he says it's a riot.

jpp75

Well I have another unplanned/unexpected punch to report. Thanks to @breld I found this yesterday a couple of hours before the auction ended:

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RvB1QAX/2021-volvo-v60-t8-polestar-engineered

We looked at one of these a couple of years ago here and I've always had a thing for them. I occasionally look for them and being such low production numbers they rarely come up for sale and finding a new one is even more challenging.

Unfortunately this one does have an accident on the CarFax but after @breld and @michaell and I texted about it I feel it was repaired well and the ending price was reflective of a CarFax ding. I had been eyeing a similar model in silver at a dealer in Palm Springs that also had a "minor" accident on the CarFax and they were asking low 70's, who knows what they got for it but I feel OK with the price I paid for this car considering this market and a new one is also low $70's.

I'm working on getting it shipped out here, if nothing else it will help keep some miles off the Defender for a bit which is almost halfway to out of warranty.

qbrozen

wow. congrats. enjoy.

corvette

Very nice! The T8 plug in hybrids seem to be very rare in all of Volvo's models, and I know they did not lease well when new, compared to the conventional T5/T6 powertrains.

Michaell

Member needs help choosing a used car with a specific feature.

stickguy

There must be something in the water (or air? ) in Colorado. You people are machines.

stickguy

really cool wagon. I really like these too.

mjfloyd1

@tifighter said:
Yeah, but...

Black hides the hideousness quite effectively

Michaell

stickguy said:

There must be something in the water (or air? ) in Colorado. You people are machines.

I've stopped trying to keep up. Ain't no way with these two.

But, we all enable each other, even if I never pull the trigger.

roadburner

According to a couple of BMW forums the G87 M2 SOP is December with deliveries beginning in April 2023.

stickguy

get that order in day 1 so you can have a snazzy new car for my birthday!

mjfloyd1

Here is a thread with the new M2 photoshopped with various (mostly currently not available) colors

https://g42.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1961675

tjc78

@jpp75
OMG!! Love it!!

qbrozen

Used car values still making no sense. That Polestar should have been WAY less in a more historically normal market. But hard to argue with an auction result, that’s for sure.

nyccarguy

@mjfloyd1 - That Black is SICK! Take my money!

graphicguy

nyccarguy said:

graphicguy said:

nyccarguy said:

Integra went for $9,900

WOW. Why do I wish I would have bid on it…..;)

I'm surprised you didn't order one of those Red PMC TLX Type S

The thought crossed my mind. I didn’t see final pricing on it. I had read it’s in the $60s. Some pretty nice rides at that price point, but none of them would have the exclusivity of the PMC. Might give Acura dealer a call and see where pricing falls on an order, though.

graphicguy

qbrozen said:

graphicguy said:

breld said:

I was browsing local inventory of Mustang Mach-Es and came across an available GT model. Clicked on the “unlock price” option which resulted in a schedule that clearly outlines the MSRP, and the “your price” which was equal to MSRP.

So, thought I may go check it out…could be a good deal at MSRP and you’d get the “old” tax credit. Made an appointment with a salesperson for yesterday afternoon, got a call in the morning from a sales manager to confirm the appointment. Got there promptly at 4:00. The salesperson has information available on the available new GT and a slightly used one they have in the showroom. Then he mentions something about markups on available units that customers had backed out on. Huh? Oh yeah…$10k markup on Mach-E GTs.

Man, do I hate that. I think I may have had a conversation with the SM for wasting my time.

100%. And I would have had the printout showing "my price."

Ford has been cracking down on markups, so I'm sure they'd like to hear if the dealer wasn't honoring their own quoted price with ADM.

I reported the dealership to Ford. Ford sent a nice note back stating they would check into it and that they value me as a customer (although it’s been a few years since I was a Ford owner). Got a standard note back from Cronin Ford’s owner/GM stating how the market is setting pricing. I sent a note back stating lying is never acceptable in business, and his dealership lied. I never heard anything back.

stickguy

You went into the file of people that will never buy from them so they lost all interest.

fintail

jpp75 said:

Well I have another unplanned/unexpected punch to report. Thanks to @breld I found this yesterday a couple of hours before the auction ended:

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RvB1QAX/2021-volvo-v60-t8-polestar-engineered

We looked at one of these a couple of years ago here and I've always had a thing for them. I occasionally look for them and being such low production numbers they rarely come up for sale and finding a new one is even more challenging.

Unfortunately this one does have an accident on the CarFax but after @breld and @michaell and I texted about it I feel it was repaired well and the ending price was reflective of a CarFax ding. I had been eyeing a similar model in silver at a dealer in Palm Springs that also had a "minor" accident on the CarFax and they were asking low 70's, who knows what they got for it but I feel OK with the price I paid for this car considering this market and a new one is also low $70's.

I'm working on getting it shipped out here, if nothing else it will help keep some miles off the Defender for a bit which is almost halfway to out of warranty.

Super rare car with that spec, I wonder how many exist just like it. Congrats.

tifighter

jpp75 said:

Well I have another unplanned/unexpected punch to report. Thanks to @breld I found this yesterday a couple of hours before the auction ended:

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RvB1QAX/2021-volvo-v60-t8-polestar-engineered

We looked at one of these a couple of years ago here and I've always had a thing for them. I occasionally look for them and being such low production numbers they rarely come up for sale and finding a new one is even more challenging.

Unfortunately this one does have an accident on the CarFax but after @breld and @michaell and I texted about it I feel it was repaired well and the ending price was reflective of a CarFax ding. I had been eyeing a similar model in silver at a dealer in Palm Springs that also had a "minor" accident on the CarFax and they were asking low 70's, who knows what they got for it but I feel OK with the price I paid for this car considering this market and a new one is also low $70's.

I'm working on getting it shipped out here, if nothing else it will help keep some miles off the Defender for a bit which is almost halfway to out of warranty.

Nice find - I like it. Hard to fault a Volvo wagon, and if there's a cool Volvo on Cars and Bids, jpp75 is usually involved.

roadburner

graphicguy said:

qbrozen said:

graphicguy said:

breld said:

I was browsing local inventory of Mustang Mach-Es and came across an available GT model. Clicked on the “unlock price” option which resulted in a schedule that clearly outlines the MSRP, and the “your price” which was equal to MSRP.

So, thought I may go check it out…could be a good deal at MSRP and you’d get the “old” tax credit. Made an appointment with a salesperson for yesterday afternoon, got a call in the morning from a sales manager to confirm the appointment. Got there promptly at 4:00. The salesperson has information available on the available new GT and a slightly used one they have in the showroom. Then he mentions something about markups on available units that customers had backed out on. Huh? Oh yeah…$10k markup on Mach-E GTs.

Man, do I hate that. I think I may have had a conversation with the SM for wasting my time.

100%. And I would have had the printout showing "my price."

Ford has been cracking down on markups, so I'm sure they'd like to hear if the dealer wasn't honoring their own quoted price with ADM.

I reported the dealership to Ford. Ford sent a nice note back stating they would check into it and that they value me as a customer (although it’s been a few years since I was a Ford owner). Got a standard note back from Cronin Ford’s owner/GM stating how the market is setting pricing. I sent a note back stating lying is never acceptable in business, and his dealership lied. I never heard anything back.

As I've said several times in the past, with the exception of Kings Ford in Cincinnati, it has been the Ford dealers that have stood between me and buying a Mustang Bullitt or Mach 1. Although I will in all fairness note that the email correspondence that I have had with Mike Castrucci Ford in Alexandria KY was fine- the price has been the issue...

jpp75

Appreciate all the congrats, working on getting it shipped now. As @breld and I always discuss we like having something unique that you don't see every day, this certainly checks that box but I'm looking forward to seeing how this power train performs. Plus yellow seat belts!

jpp75

fintail said:

Super rare car with that spec, I wonder how many exist just like it. Congrats.

It's got to be fairly small, maybe even in the 3 digit range. Of course this car only comes in 4 colors, black, white, silver and thunder gray and there aren't really any options to add but I think the number of units that make it over here for sale is quite small. White isn't usually my first choice but I like it on this car, plus having the black Defender it will be nice to have something that hides dirt a little easier.

corvette

Per Ford chat, my 2022 Maverick is scheduled to be built tomorrow.

stickguy

Good luck!

mjfloyd1

New M2 even more “interesting” with M performance parts. That exhaust. Ugh

explorerx4

Rodney's comment on theM2 styling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phagxOal7_A

jmonroe1

@corvette said:
Per Ford chat, my 2022 Maverick is scheduled to be built tomorrow.

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Nice to hear, but with Ford, how many tomorrow’s are there this week?

jmonroe

explorerx4

@corvette,
Fingers crossed!

explorerx4

This is pretty much the height of absurd.
https://www.elyriaford.com/used/Ford/2018-Ford-Focus-95fb34c00a0e094a398735b35777219a.htm?ddcref=fluency&tcdcmpid=719729&tcdadid=56903005&gcmdef=1&impId=1665711908474_3086_ACT_B_7004752_S_1001_EUIDS_1WUAUmzyqrqc3VhDfNUdvBki_EUIDE_EXCHG_10&mcmid=adv12&channel=display&bannerid=28011419|5757611|338576169|172872652|530840926|&dclid=CJnjwc_M3voCFdOewAodwH0I5g

stickguy

trying to cash in before the market collapses?

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

This is pretty much the height of absurd.
https://www.elyriaford.com/used/Ford/2018-Ford-Focus-95fb34c00a0e094a398735b35777219a.htm?ddcref=fluency&tcdcmpid=719729&tcdadid=56903005&gcmdef=1&impId=1665711908474_3086_ACT_B_7004752_S_1001_EUIDS_1WUAUmzyqrqc3VhDfNUdvBki_EUIDE_EXCHG_10&mcmid=adv12&channel=display&bannerid=28011419|5757611|338576169|172872652|530840926|&dclid=CJnjwc_M3voCFdOewAodwH0I5g

Isn’t that one of those DSG by-backs?