Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

qbrozen

We had both my folks cremated. Problem is, now what? They’ve been sitting on my shelf ever since. I know my mom wanted to be with her mother, but the deed to that plot is MIA. My aunt says it is in a safe deposit box that she doesn’t have a key for. She promised to take care of it but that was a couple of years ago now. We had planned on taking some of my dad on our Alaskan cruise and depositing him up north because he always spoke fondly of his time stationed there. But that was canceled for covid. So there they sit on my shelf. I talk to them fairly often at least.

qbrozen

Good grief. I hope this “junkyard replacement parts” look doesn’t make it to production.

stickguy

Is that supposed to come here? Paint the rear panel and I actually like the rest of it. Though probably intentional they don’t show the nose!

qbrozen

That’s the 2023 Toyota Crown

tjc78

What has happened to Toyota?

explorerx4

I seen videos of the Crown that don't have the two tone treatment.

corvette

I think that would look a lot better with a monochrome wrap.

stickguy

Toyota made their maw even wider. Hard to believe.

I did not realize they were bringing the crown nameplate back to the US. About the size of the Avalon?

qbrozen

replacement or Avalon, yes.

tjc78

Everything is wrong on that car. The grill is atrocious, the rear looks like it’s already smashed in. The ride height looks like an Outback wagon. Sedans already don’t sell, I see this as a huge fail. It’s not like the Avalon sold well anyway. It hasn’t since 2008 or so.

Michaell

Ever the contrarian, I'll admit I kind of like the Crown. Reminds me, in a way, of the Polestar 2 (or the gen 2 Outback sedan).

Not everybody wants an SUV/CUV/SAV, and as Americans age, they do appreciate cars that don't require a climb to get into them, or a drop down into the seats.

Do I think it will sell? Probably not.

qbrozen

Oh, I spotted this on the road yesterday. The epitome of irony.

au1994

That thing is toast. Glad that manly grill bar did its job.

jmonroe1

@tjc78 said:
What has happened to Toyota?

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Typical Toyota schnauz of late.

I guess they figure since air is still free they’re going to get as much of it as they can.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

@qbrozen said:
Oh, I spotted this on the road yesterday. The epitome of irony.

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I guess I missed the introduction of the BEEF model. And no, that will not buff out.

jmonroe

stickguy

Id hate to see the car that beast ran into.

corvette

Built Ford Tough?

tjc78

New Murano SV AWD for Mom. Pearl white over graphite “leather”

qbrozen

tjc78 said:

New Murano SV AWD for Mom. Pearl white over graphite “leather”

that's a lease, right?

tjc78

Not my exact way of doing things, but used equity to buy down the lease.

Ended up at 18 months at $370 a month with $2500 check back to her.

They got her $26,500 for the RAV using a Toyota dealer they are friendly with. Every car they had was marked $7500 market adjustment. This lease was at MSRP (42K) and buy rate.

All in all the equity from the Yota was completely unexpected and essentially “free money”. This car will cost her $4160 out of pocket to drive for 18 months. She is banking the extra $2500 for the next lease if needed.

Bottom she loves it and is very happy with the overall outcome.

Thanks @kyfdx for confirming the MF in the leasing forum.

I could have done better with a broker on LH but they didn’t want her RAV and it would have been much more complex and three hours away. This was pretty easy and the dealer is 10 mins away.

Dealer did try some shenanigans when trying to apply the equity (bumped MF “accidentally” and try to double dip inceptions) but when I questioned it he figured it out.

tjc78

Pathfinder in showroom

tjc78

@qbrozen said:
that's a lease, right?

Absolutely

kyfdx

tjc78 said:

@qbrozen said:

that's a lease, right?

Absolutely

Congrats!

explorerx4

Whatever that F150 hit, it was pretty far off the ground. The bumper damage looks like it was from the cow catcher.

Michaell

tjc78 said:

@qbrozen said:

that's a lease, right?

Absolutely

Looks like everyone was happy with this deal.

And, you’ll get to be in the market again in only 18 months!

xwesx

qbrozen said:

Correct on both counts. And good in all weather!

Yeah, even floods; it would probably float!

xwesx

tifighter said:

Currently driving in eastern Oregon. While a town might be small, it has everything you need.

Wow; Condon! My school, in Helix, OR, played them in our sports conference. I really enjoyed whooping on them in tennis.

How did you end up there? They are way off the beaten path.

tjc78

@Michaell said:
Looks like everyone was happy with this deal.

And, you’ll get to be in the market again in only 18 months!

Less.. XC90 is due in 11 months!

Happy, yes. Do I feel we got a “deal”. Nope. But I guess in normal times, I could have scored a sub $400 on a Murano without needing any equity and she would have just turned in the RAV.

nyccarguy

Nice job @tjc78 ! Those 18 month Nissan leases are hot right now. Every single car had a $7,500 market adjustment? Woof!

tjc78

Yes every car I saw had it, including the Murano Mom got. The sales manager said something about internet leads getting quoted MSRP. I guess if you come in from the street you have to negotiate the markup off.

carnaught

@tjc78, yeah, hard pass on that Pathfinder ADM.

stickguy

falls into the category of, it doesn't hurt to ask in case you got a sucker on the line.

stickguy

Pathfinder looks nice. and I guess you are right that putting all the pieces together, she got a good deal (by normal times standards). Plus she might enjoy driving a "luxury" car for a change instead of a putt putt mobile. I made that mistake 10 years ago and now the boss won't go back!

tjc78

Everyone here knows how much I hated the RAV. In my opinion the Murano is a much nicer ride. Yeah it’s a CVT, but she won’t ever notice or care. The VQ is still great although they must have de-tuned in the Murano as it’s only 260 HP. Wasn’t closer to 300 in the Maxima?

I warned her gas mileage will be less than the RAV but other than that, I think it’s a step up.

corvette

Maverick rail car departed Topeka, KS this morning, so it made it under 100 miles today. Only 64 miles to KC, MO.

sda

tjc78 said:

Everyone here knows how much I hated the RAV. In my opinion the Murano is a much nicer ride. Yeah it’s a CVT, but she won’t ever notice or care. The VQ is still great although they must have de-tuned in the Murano as it’s only 260 HP. Wasn’t closer to 300 in the Maxima?

I warned her gas mileage will be less than the RAV but other than that, I think it’s a step up.

I was thinking the refinement level, luxury appointments, effortless acceleration would be appreciated immediately.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

the idea of being buried always skeeved me out too, and really seemed quite strange. I'm certainly no doing it!

discussing in advance is always smart. But better is just putting it all in detailed writing and kept with your other papers (will, POA, etc.) Leaving it up to survivors, to make decisions under stressful conditions (with someone pushing them that has a ve$ted interest in he decisions) is really not fair. I'm just not willing to plan it in advance and pay for it. Partly because I have no idea where I will even be at the time. Though if you aren't getting buried, really doesn't matter!

I’m being buried in my Mustang with the trunk loaded with $100 bills. I’m taking it all with me!

fintail

tjc78 said:

What has happened to Toyota?

They got teased for being beige and boring for years, now they are overcompensating - started ramping up several years ago.

That Crown is a crime, visual pollution.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

New Murano SV AWD for Mom. Pearl white over graphite “leather”

That’s quite nice. I’m becoming a fan of white cars.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

Everyone here knows how much I hated the RAV. In my opinion the Murano is a much nicer ride. Yeah it’s a CVT, but she won’t ever notice or care. The VQ is still great although they must have de-tuned in the Murano as it’s only 260 HP. Wasn’t closer to 300 in the Maxima?

I warned her gas mileage will be less than the RAV but other than that, I think it’s a step up.

Check the torque comparison. Sometimes they retune for more of one and less of other depending on size/weight of the vehicle.

oldfarmer50

I was delivering a car to a dealer today and found this in the showroom:

https://www.brileyaschryslerjeep.net/used/Oldsmobile/1969-Oldsmobile-442+Convertible-For-Sale-In-Rutland-VT-36ffe0fc0a0e097132fd8420ec44aa0b.htm

Matching numbers.

I think I could afford the bumper, maybe, but it would be nice to take it for a test drive.

roadburner

I had a 1993 Pathfinder SE with discs at all four corners and a LSD. The current Pathfinder is just an overpriced combover.

jmonroe1

@oldfarmer50 said:
That’s quite nice. I’m becoming a fan of white cars.

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So, you’re joining the ranks of folks that like a car that technically has no color. I’ve had 2 white cars and don’t plan to get another one.

jmonroe

stickguy

I love that Olds. but that price seems nuts to me.

Hey Farmer, I will be out your way Saturday. Apparently we are meeting family at a winery between you and Altamont someplace (but I was not given the name yet). Probably Altamont winery! I will wave when I am in the area. If you see a Maverick, honk.

jmonroe1

@stickguy said:
I love that Olds. but that price seems nuts to me.

Hey Farmer, I will be out your way Saturday. Apparently we are meeting family at a winery between you and Altamont someplace (but I was not given the name yet). Probably Altamont winery! I will wave when I am in the area. If you see a Maverick, honk.

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I agree, that price seems crazy high. I wonder if the owner knows how many times that beast has seen 22K miles.

jmonroe

ab348

stickguy said:

I love that Olds. but that price seems nuts to me.

Mileage listed is highly dubious with alll the rebuilt items in the description. Aftermarket steering wheel. ‘68/‘69 4-4-2s are the least desirable (engine is a dog). Price is nuts.

henryn

tjc78 said:

Yes every car I saw had it, including the Murano Mom got. The sales manager said something about internet leads getting quoted MSRP. I guess if you come in from the street you have to negotiate the markup off.

I just received this in my email earlier today. Somehow, I don't believe a word they're saying. Just my prejudices against used car salesmen showing, I guess. No insult intended to anyone here, of course!

stickguy

On the maverick forum people are reporting much lower buy offers (mav flipping and people buying one while waiting for another is pretty common). If that is reality dealers will be getting a bunch more new ones for stock when people don’t take ones they ordered.

nyccarguy

Low Mileage '97 Prelude with a 5-Speed

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-honda-prelude-19/

stickguy

Nice looking car. Not perfect but seems sound. As long as sitting for 10 years didn’t trash all the rubber bits!