Oh, if it is ALL payments, yeah, that could make a huge difference. I'm still not there, but technically could be if you figure we paid cash for the Sprinter and now just took out a HEL that I wouldn't have needed if I had that cash.
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Not surprised about the high numbers where they show up.... high percent of trucks in those regions (well, outside of CA), and trucks are expensive even in their cheapest form. I'm somewhat surprised that Alaska isn't in the yellow, TBH, because we're surely over 33% trucks on the road.
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The universe is really taunting me. Found this in the Kroger parking lot with a CarMax sticker on the back and a temp tag. My color, trim level, and powertrain, and a bed cover like I want.
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Did they specify if it’s for one car, or all your fleet? I could be in or out!
Wyoming, few people and do they have all the LLCs? Or is that just Montana?
Pretty sure that it is single payments at that level. Otherwise, a higher percent wouldn't surprise me in the least.
However, if all payments... how would they know? I think there would be a lot of conjecture involved.
Wow, @tifighter.... Those percentage changes are HUGE!
Same even in eastern WA. But I think all of the 20 year old hoopties on 3 different wheels and vape smoke pouring out the window (and still financed) even it out here.
What a difference a year can make, looks like I will be holding on to the wagon for the long haul indeed.
Car payment chart. Discuss- Hello Wyoming and Texas.
Woo hoo! I'm in the top 10.6%! But, at 0%.
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Speaker Upgrade Update: Bavsound contacted me today and agreed that the E36 convertible kit would fit my car, they offered me the speakers at the same price and threw in free shipping. So I'm a happy camper.
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I can see it from their perspective. they work off the books they have, and know from experience it is a bad idea to send something that won't fit since all that can happen is they get something back they can't use. Probably doing most people a favor keeping them out of trouble.
any time you go off the matrix it will take special handling. either that or they agree to send what you want but no returns!
Oh, I'm not joking! The rear opening of the sprinter is 61". Plenty of room. And, being RHD, I can easily open the door once inside thanks to the side sliding door of the van. It is almost like it was made for the task. lol.
Reminds me of a guy on Edmunds in a Mustang topic many years ago; he annoyed everyone for months agonizing over the correct color combo for the Mustang he was ordering. When he finally got the car he noted a paint imperfection that was only visible lying on his back and looking at the underside of the rear bumper. One wag commented that that type of paint damage was usually due to the car falling off the hauler during delivery.. Things got even more entertaining from that point...
That guy sounds like me.😢
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Car payment chart. Discuss- Hello Wyoming and Texas.
I would imagine that in those two states you need a big truck for plowing snow or hauling cattle. Those aren’t cheap. As stickguy said, in NY a lot of city people don’t drive and us upstaters buy rusted out hoopties for cash which skews the statistics.
The largest payment I ever had was about $450/mo. @ 1.89%..
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Grump Old Man question/comment…Do certain models of the new Mustang have some type of a “be a loud annoying a**hole button”? I was behind one this week and all of the sudden he accelerates and it is so loud I couldn’t hold a conversation. His flashers came on too.
The newer ones (18’+ I think) have an active exhaust option. You can switch to several settings from quiet to obnoxious. I had to drive one once where the customer had left it set to the loudest level and I couldn’t find the switch to turn it down. Made for a dramatic entrance into the parking garage.
I had to go to Borla to get mine to sound better.
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I can see it from their perspective. they work off the books they have, and know from experience it is a bad idea to send something that won't fit since all that can happen is they get something back they can't use. Probably doing most people a favor keeping them out of trouble.
any time you go off the matrix it will take special handling. either that or they agree to send what you want but no returns!
I agree for the most part; what aggravated me was that Bavsound had a YouTube installation video that used the E36 convertible kit for a 318ti. I'm just glad that they corrected the problem.
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We were contacted by our Ford dealer to convert our 2022 Bronco order to a 2023...this was the order we placed before finding ours in Michigan. What the heck...why not. So we updated our order to a 2-door Heritage Edition in cactus gray with the white top. Which basically looks like my wife's old MINIs she had, but on steroids.
Can't remember if I mentioned it or not, but I also went ahead and placed a deposit on a Polestar 3.
I've been exploring options to move on from the Polestar 2 so I can try something else out before the 3 arrives (at least a year away). So when people recommend to my wife and I that we should just lease, my response is usually along the lines of, "a lease tends to be too restrictive," and that's being proven out here...
A Ford dealer who really wanted to take the Polestar in and sell me a Mach E contacted the Volvo/Polestar dealer who told them only a Volvo/Polestar dealer could take it in on trade. Based on reading the contract, not sure that's right, but okay.
Went to the dealership network that includes Polestar to get a trade, thinking they could simply buy it back. The payoff they come back with includes sales tax, which I point out, but they insisted that's the payoff they'd be subject to.
Talked to Polestar Financial Services directly about the early term provision. Got a quote, but their wholesale value is $2,500 less than the trade offers I've received (the trade offers were in line with the payoff before sales tax).
So, what I've realized is how distinct the dealership is from the financial arm (kinda knew that, but this really emphasized the point). And...the Polestar 2 is perfectly fine and not worth the hassle to move on from.
Can't remember if I mentioned it or not, but I also went ahead and placed a deposit on a Polestar 3.
I've been exploring options to move on from the Polestar 2 so I can try something else out before the 3 arrives (at least a year away). So when people recommend to my wife and I that we should just lease, my response is usually along the lines of, "a lease tends to be too restrictive," and that's being proven out here...
A Ford dealer who really wanted to take the Polestar in and sell me a Mach E contacted the Volvo/Polestar dealer who told them only a Volvo/Polestar dealer could take it in on trade. Based on reading the contract, not sure that's right, but okay.
Went to the dealership network that includes Polestar to get a trade, thinking they could simply buy it back. The payoff they come back with includes sales tax, which I point out, but they insisted that's the payoff they'd be subject to.
Talked to Polestar Financial Services directly about the early term provision. Got a quote, but their wholesale value is $2,500 less than the trade offers I've received (the trade offers were in line with the payoff before sales tax).
So, what I've realized is how distinct the dealership is from the financial arm (kinda knew that, but this really emphasized the point). And...the Polestar 2 is perfectly fine and not worth the hassle to move on from.
You’re awesome. Thank you for single-handedly trying to pull us out of a recession!
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Can't remember if I mentioned it or not, but I also went ahead and placed a deposit on a Polestar 3.
I've been exploring options to move on from the Polestar 2 so I can try something else out before the 3 arrives (at least a year away). So when people recommend to my wife and I that we should just lease, my response is usually along the lines of, "a lease tends to be too restrictive," and that's being proven out here...
A Ford dealer who really wanted to take the Polestar in and sell me a Mach E contacted the Volvo/Polestar dealer who told them only a Volvo/Polestar dealer could take it in on trade. Based on reading the contract, not sure that's right, but okay.
Went to the dealership network that includes Polestar to get a trade, thinking they could simply buy it back. The payoff they come back with includes sales tax, which I point out, but they insisted that's the payoff they'd be subject to.
Talked to Polestar Financial Services directly about the early term provision. Got a quote, but their wholesale value is $2,500 less than the trade offers I've received (the trade offers were in line with the payoff before sales tax).
So, what I've realized is how distinct the dealership is from the financial arm (kinda knew that, but this really emphasized the point). And...the Polestar 2 is perfectly fine and not worth the hassle to move on from.
Ouch. They are definitely playing hardball. I like Polestars. But I don't like them that much.
We were contacted by our Ford dealer to convert our 2022 Bronco order to a 2023...this was the order we placed before finding ours in Michigan. What the heck...why not. So we updated our order to a 2-door Heritage Edition in cactus gray with the white top. Which basically looks like my wife's old MINIs she had, but on steroids.
So what’s the plan for the one you have now, flip it when the new one arrives? Will the market still be kind to you by then?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
We were contacted by our Ford dealer to convert our 2022 Bronco order to a 2023...this was the order we placed before finding ours in Michigan. What the heck...why not. So we updated our order to a 2-door Heritage Edition in cactus gray with the white top. Which basically looks like my wife's old MINIs she had, but on steroids.
So what’s the plan for the one you have now, flip it when the new one arrives? Will the market still be kind to you by then?
You need to keep up. The Breld Bronco has long since been sent down the road.
I think I probably had 8-10% back in the 80s. Much cheaper cars though!
If the interest rate increase is too much to handle, you (not you personally, the royal you) probably are spending too much on the car anyway. So don’t buy, or get something cheaper.
I think I probably had 8-10% back in the 80s. Much cheaper cars though!
If the interest rate increase is too much to handle, you (not you personally, the royal you) probably are spending too much on the car anyway. So don’t buy, or get something cheaper.
"But I want the Belchfire Unobtanium trim with the optional hydra-duty transmission and rich Corinthian leather"
And now you begin to understand how people are ending up with $1K/mo car payments.
I'm pretty sure I had a few loans in the 80's at that rate as well. I think the most expensive car we got at that time was the '88 Isuzu Trooper, which was a dealer demo and we got it for $17K.
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Can't imagine anyone in Laramie, Cheyenne or Casper paying that much.
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Wyoming, few people and do they have all the LLCs? Or is that just Montana?
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
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Not surprised about the high numbers where they show up.... high percent of trucks in those regions (well, outside of CA), and trucks are expensive even in their cheapest form. I'm somewhat surprised that Alaska isn't in the yellow, TBH, because we're surely over 33% trucks on the road.
However, if all payments... how would they know? I think there would be a lot of conjecture involved.
Wow, @tifighter.... Those percentage changes are HUGE!
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Though, my cousin's son in MO posted on FB that everyone there should register their car in SD - no taxes, and no residency requirement needed either.
Take that for what it's worth.
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Don’t tell anybody but I think that guy stopped to get some groceries before delivering your Maverick.
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Somebody once said, “there’s a sucker born every minute”. Now someone is telling us where they are.
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What a difference a year can make, looks like I will be holding on to the wagon for the long haul indeed.
But did it jump the curb?
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Bavsound contacted me today and agreed that the E36 convertible kit would fit my car, they offered me the speakers at the same price and threw in free shipping. So I'm a happy camper.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
any time you go off the matrix it will take special handling. either that or they agree to send what you want but no returns!
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2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
The largest payment I ever had was about $450/mo. @ 1.89%..
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I had to go to Borla to get mine to sound better.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I’m gonna go Borla active sport cherry bomb exhaust on the Suzuki. How else can I unleash all 660 ccs of fury?
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
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Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
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I've been exploring options to move on from the Polestar 2 so I can try something else out before the 3 arrives (at least a year away). So when people recommend to my wife and I that we should just lease, my response is usually along the lines of, "a lease tends to be too restrictive," and that's being proven out here...
- A Ford dealer who really wanted to take the Polestar in and sell me a Mach E contacted the Volvo/Polestar dealer who told them only a Volvo/Polestar dealer could take it in on trade. Based on reading the contract, not sure that's right, but okay.
- Went to the dealership network that includes Polestar to get a trade, thinking they could simply buy it back. The payoff they come back with includes sales tax, which I point out, but they insisted that's the payoff they'd be subject to.
- Talked to Polestar Financial Services directly about the early term provision. Got a quote, but their wholesale value is $2,500 less than the trade offers I've received (the trade offers were in line with the payoff before sales tax).
So, what I've realized is how distinct the dealership is from the financial arm (kinda knew that, but this really emphasized the point). And...the Polestar 2 is perfectly fine and not worth the hassle to move on from.2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
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Volvo finance (assuming that’s what Polestar uses) is probably the most restrictive captive finance company
Only way you get out is to buy/lease another one and the dealer can then buy it out without tax.
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If the interest rate increase is too much to handle, you (not you personally, the royal you) probably are spending too much on the car anyway. So don’t buy, or get something cheaper.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
And now you begin to understand how people are ending up with $1K/mo car payments.
I'm pretty sure I had a few loans in the 80's at that rate as well. I think the most expensive car we got at that time was the '88 Isuzu Trooper, which was a dealer demo and we got it for $17K.
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