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25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
https://www.mazdausa.com/shopping-tools/build-and-price#/23MX5/23MX5SP/summary
SPORT FEATURES:
181-hp, SKYACTIV®-G4 2.0 DOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder with VVT with 6-speed manual transmission
EPA-estimated mileage city/hwy (mpg): 26/34
16-inch aluminum alloy wheels in Metallic Black finish with P195/50 R16 high-performance tires
LED Headlights
Black cloth convertible top
Glass rear window with defogger
Mazda Advanced Keyless Entry System
CarPlay/AndroidAuto with 7" full color touch screen
AM/FM audio system with 6 speakers including driver's side headrest speakers
Blind Spot Monitoring, Rear Cross Traffic Alert
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
No issues with headroom as long as the top is down. New ones are better but the problem I had with my gen 2 NB was lack of a place for my legs and feet.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
It is looking like the Xterra is going back. Sigh.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Shoot, I’m only 6’2” and could just fit in our NC with the top down and a short term only seat angle. Top up meant I got a complimentary head massage. My Z4 felt palatial inside in comparison.
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
BUT, the new Miata already has more power than the old mazdaspeed version. It is about a full second quicker to 60, too. Unless you meant you want them to make a MS version of the new one, in which case I totally agree.
EDIT: I do think that is what you meant, actually, since the old one was never a coupe.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Yeah, they getting a painted bumper and grille. Bastards!
Have a box if parts I’ll have to sell off, too. Grrr…
On the bright side, I’ll be shopping again.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Attaboy, I knew you’d find the bright side.
I doubt I’d be as calm.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I used to know a guy who also had one from new who I would see tooling around in the summer with it.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
I don’t know how that translates in a real market with real money, but that BRG/tan SE was always the one I wanted. Aside from the perfect color scheme, it came with the 6-speed manual instead of the 5-spd. Although there was talk of it being worse in some situations due to an extra shift before 60mph or leaving you in no man’s land between 2nd and 3rd in some turns, I think that’s being nitpicky.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2023 RAV4 sales: 434,943
2023 Model Y sales: 394,497
2023 CR-V sales: 361,457
I can’t watch the article right now… but I’d assume Tesla has a leg up on EVs because they were built from the ground up to be an EV.
Many of the other manufacturers relied heavily on existing platforms to create their EVs which I would wager has its share of compromises
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
Can you imagine the cost advantage that other auto manufactures would have if they too would be able to produce the same vehicles since 2012?
The market is speaking. Thousands of dollars in incentives and trunk money on these electric vehicles. Abysmal residual values.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/toyota-rav4-sales-figures/
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/toyota-camry-sales-figures/
I didn’t even give the length of time a thought. It’s like the Panther or GM Express Van of EVs!
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
And the F-series still exceeds ALL of Tesla sales. I doubt the cybertruck is going to make any noticeable dent in those sales.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I didn’t even give the length of time a thought. It’s like the Panther or GM Express Van of EVs!
Or the 4Runner/GX...
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Just saw an interesting video series on ticktock. Guy has towed 11k lbs with the Rivian, Lightning, and now cybertruck in freezing weather. CT gave lowest range at 90 miles. Ford was 100 and Rivian was a bit above that. All accelerated to 60 with that load in the mid 12-sec range. Guess the CT isn’t going to be the pick-em-up savior Elon claimed. Shocking, I know.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Makes the RamCharger look very appealing
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic
Graham Rapier Jan 19, 2024, 9:00 AM EST
Ford plans to cut production of its electric F-150 Lightning pickup truck once again, it said Friday, citing a problem nearly all automakers have struggled with in the past year: falling demand. About 1,400 employees will be impacted as the plant where Ford's flagship electric truck is produced, the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center, transitions to just one shift per day starting on April 1, Ford said. About half will transfer to a nearby plant in Wayne while others will be placed at other facilities in southeast Michigan or "take advantage of the Special Retirement Incentive Program," Ford said...."
https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-cuts-electric-f-150-lightning-production-affecting-jobs-2024-1
Just a year ago Ford was building up production so their factory could make 150,000 Lightnings in 2024, but now it looks like they'll struggle to sell 40,000. As has been clear for a few months, Ford has hit a wall when it comes to EVs.
I wonder when or if Tesla will hit a wall? Could it happen even this year? Do most of the customers who really want an EV already have one? Already price cuts mean that you can get a new Model Y in some parts of the country for $39k before the federal tax credit, which is probably getting to a pretty low profit level for Tesla. It's already difficult to imagine that during the time of the chip shortage the Model Y was $67k.
https://www.caranddriver.com/tesla/model-y-2022
JRGo also had a recent video where he mentioned that rearward facing white lights illuminating the truck bed are required to automatically turn off once the vehicle reaches a certain speed, which is why they are all now electronic momentary contact switches instead of fixed on/off switches. I didn't know that, either.
I almost bought one of those special edition Miatas for a DD; the only problem was that it was at an Oxmorons dealership.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I have to say that my Jeep’s remote start implementation is much better than the setup in the C43. Both cars use a proprietary app to start the car, and both vehicles must be locked to initiate the process. However, when you unlock the C43 the engine shuts off. In contrast, the Jeep remains running but the gear selection is locked out; you have to have the key fob and press the start button again in order to select a gear.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Another nice touch Jeep put in is that the steering wheel and drivers side seat heaters automatically kick on if its lower than 40 outside.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
I am 240 days out from lease end so if I am going to order one, I need to get serious about it.
Thanks in advance!
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
The 2.0 liter EcoBoost really makes it a sleeper, and the AWD system does a good job of putting the power to the ground. If memory serves, in order to get that same powertrain (and similar performance) in other Ford products, you'd have to step up to either a base model Edge or one of the highest trims of the Escape or Bronco Sport, all of which hover around $40k. The fact that I was able to get a decently equipped Maverick in the mid $20s and throw a tonneau cover on the back for cargo carrying needs is a huge savings.
Regular cruise control is now standard on all trim levels, and I think. you may be able to get adaptive cruise on the XLT model as part of an enhanced CoPilot 360 package.
My Ecoboost (I had it for about 15 months) was perfect. No issues requiring attention, and overall good MPG. Not a huge bed (in length) but I found it to be very functional since nice and deep, well designed for utility. Drives nice (not at all trucky). I find the seats to be extremely comfortable, and it is a great highway cruiser.
Hybrid of course gets way better MPG, but FWD only. No issues with mine for far in 8 months (just went over 4,000 miles today!) and I find it to drive exceptionally well.
If you want the goodies, get a Lariat. Better stereo and user interface, quieter, ACC, heated seats and wheel, among other things (plus I think the interior is much nicer looking). And big to me, pushbutton start and fobless door locking.
On the EB I would get the 4K tow package for sure. Pretty cheap. If you don't want that at least pay the $100 for the basic tow package (2K limit on the hitch, and a 4 pin instead of 7 pin connector).
From following the forums, seems that the order times have gotten a lot better, especially for the EB. Key still is making sure whatever dealer you order from has allocations left if you ever want to see it. But you should timewise be fine if you pick a good volume dealer.
if you want something with useful all weather and light off road capability, with a lot of utility (having a bed is very nice) that is a perfectly nice car to DD or take anywhere, that won't break the bank, hard to go wrong with one of these.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
the 2.0T is available on the top line Bronco sport only (and some upper trim Escapes I think). Very strong engine.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Congrats, I guess?
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I do like the look of the Tremor but I don’t think it’s worth the extra $ for what is a lot of cosmetics and not a lot more capability. Without low range I won’t be doing much more than dirt roads to hiking trails.
Bed length will be fine for my use case and I’ll be looking forward to something a little quieter and smoother after 3 years with the Wrangler.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
if you get an XLT I highly recommend the luxury package. power seats with heat, and some other goodies standard. But at that point a Lariat could make sense.
If you get one, I have recommendations for a tonneau cover too!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Oh yeah! Locking rear differential! Argh argh argh!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Almost done. Gotta put new tires on and the dang snow has to melt outside. It ain’t perfect but at least it looks better, especially from a distance. ;b
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I've never used mine.
hangs head in unmanly shame
I wouldn’t fit in it… but I want it
I’d bop around Wildwood in it.
2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic