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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748

    @corvette said:
    Several of ya'll should get your lucky bidding charms out:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7jg98xGWeM

    SMG = shred my greenbacks

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    My friend who was a service advisor at BMW agreed with me in that we would both love to have a European 6er of that vintage with an I6 under the hood instead of a V8 or V10; they were nice cruisers.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435
    qbrozen said:

    @corvette said:

    Several of ya'll should get your lucky bidding charms out:
    imagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7jg98xGWeM

    SMG = shred my greenbacks


    that was the car he bought to manual swap it (and he found a normal 6 series manual to use as a donor car). Until they started doing the swap, and discovered the tranny was different and would not fit. So put it all back together, and now an SMG is for sale!

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,762
    Anyone have OnStar in their vehicle?
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    At least my cars aren't selling that info...

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,762
    edited March 2024
    Selling aggragate info, say by model, is one thing, selling your individual info is something else.
    Where do they slide that permission into the sales process?
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    The owner of the vehicle agrees to all sorts of conditions when they decide to plug that transponder into the OBD port in return for lower insurance rates. I do that and my insurance costs less than half what I was paying previously. I couldn’t take more than a few minutes of that bozo preaching at his iPhone before I had to switch off that awful video.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    edited March 2024
    I know of at least one homebuilt adapter that plugs in between the OBDII port and the insurance dongle; it essentially turns you into a VERY safe driver.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435
    people think about that with those insurance dongles, but probably not with the standard features built into their new car. I know all that stuff expired on our Acura after the free trial year, and every so often they remind me hoping I will sign up and pay. Not that I even know what it would give me.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    The 645Ci press loaner I had back in 2005:

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,359

    The 645Ci press loaner I had back in 2005:

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    Nice! If you weren’t the law, that’s enough to make you think about becoming a thief.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435
    if you really want one, can probably pick it up for 5K. maybe less. just make them an offer and tow it away!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    edited March 2024

    Anyone have OnStar in their vehicle?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LazwA6CGmYM

    I thought all cars were doing that now. Isn’t the government mandating surveillance systems in all cars built after 2026 with kill switches for remote shutdown in case of “safety” concerns?

    I know that many of the company cars already have this capability. We once caught a thief who stole a car from the airport by using the onstar to track him and shut the car off once the police were behind him.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    I got a chuckle over the blue box at the top of this page asking anyone who traded with negative equity to contact a reporter. IDK, if I did that I wouldn’t want to admit to the world that I had been so foolish.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,516

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    I got a chuckle over the blue box at the top of this page asking anyone who traded with negative equity to contact a reporter. IDK, if I did that I wouldn’t want to admit to the world that I had been so foolish.

    You’d be surprised how many people trade in with negative equity without even knowing it.

    “We can get you out of your lease clean. You won’t have to pay any over mileage charges, excess wear & tear charges, and we’ll even save you the disposition fee.”

    They don’t tell you that you will be rolling $5K worth of negative equity into your 36 month lease.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,713
    There used to be a dealer with a screamer ad “ we’ll pay off your trade no matter how much you owe”

    And as @nyccarguy just said, its rolled straight into the next deal. Sucker born every day.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,359
    nyccarguy said:

    @oldfarmer50 said:

    I got a chuckle over the blue box at the top of this page asking anyone who traded with negative equity to contact a reporter. IDK, if I did that I wouldn’t want to admit to the world that I had been so foolish.

    You’d be surprised how many people trade in with negative equity without even knowing it.

    “We can get you out of your lease clean. You won’t have to pay any over mileage charges, excess wear & tear charges, and we’ll even save you the disposition fee.”

    They don’t tell you that you will be rolling $5K worth of negative equity into your 36 month lease.

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    And for those with hot pants, that know math, and hold to their guns for a lower payment will fall for a longer lease with lower payments. Dealerships have to be on guard for payment buying folks with math skills to make sure they don’t get screwed while selling cars.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    The 645Ci press loaner I had back in 2005:

    That was the height of bangle butt IIRC
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    When I wrote the article on the 6er I included a sidebar talking about how almost everybody wanted to race me at the Stoplight Grand Prix...

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435
    nyccarguy said:

    @oldfarmer50 said:

    I got a chuckle over the blue box at the top of this page asking anyone who traded with negative equity to contact a reporter. IDK, if I did that I wouldn’t want to admit to the world that I had been so foolish.

    You’d be surprised how many people trade in with negative equity without even knowing it.

    “We can get you out of your lease clean. You won’t have to pay any over mileage charges, excess wear & tear charges, and we’ll even save you the disposition fee.”

    They don’t tell you that you will be rolling $5K worth of negative equity into your 36 month lease.


    well, during my lease days, that fell into the "I don't care" bucket! Basically if I had my target terms, and they met them, I was good with it and didn't really matter to me how they made them work. And yes, I know that means in theory I could have worked the deal lower, but considering I only leased when the deal seemed to be below what was possible, didn't want to be greedy!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    edited March 2024

    Kid has been driving the Fiat while the Opel is laid up. Doing its Italian stuff. I had detailed the original startup problem. A couple of days later, it decided it can no longer communicate with the TPMS. Today, a plastic retaining clip on the driver window disintegrated. I think I found the right one on amazon, but I’ve got the glass secured with duct tape in the meantime.

    Speaking of the Opel, we tried to tackle that this weekend. I managed to pull the axle and replace the inner joint, but the brake pads were incorrect, so I had to place another order. While we are at it, I found the ball joints and endlinks not in the best shape, so those are on their way, too.

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  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,170
    qbrozen said:

    Kid has been driving the Fiat while the Opel is laid up. Doing its Italian stuff. I had detailed the original startup problem. A couple of days later, it decided it can no longer communicate with the TPMS. Today, a plastic retaining clip on the driver window disintegrated. I think I found the right one on amazon, but I’ve got the glass secured with duct tape in the meantime.

    Speaking of the Opel, we tried to tackle that this weekend. I managed to pull the axle and replace the inner joint, but the brake pads were i correct, so I had to place another order. While we are at it, I found the ball joints and endlinks not in the best shape, so those are on their way, too.

    Man! What a headache.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,359
    stickguy said:

    nyccarguy said:

    @oldfarmer50 said:

    I got a chuckle over the blue box at the top of this page asking anyone who traded with negative equity to contact a reporter. IDK, if I did that I wouldn’t want to admit to the world that I had been so foolish.

    You’d be surprised how many people trade in with negative equity without even knowing it.

    “We can get you out of your lease clean. You won’t have to pay any over mileage charges, excess wear & tear charges, and we’ll even save you the disposition fee.”

    They don’t tell you that you will be rolling $5K worth of negative equity into your 36 month lease.

    well, during my lease days, that fell into the "I don't care" bucket! Basically if I had my target terms, and they met them, I was good with it and didn't really matter to me how they made them work. And yes, I know that means in theory I could have worked the deal lower, but considering I only leased when the deal seemed to be below what was possible, didn't want to be greedy!


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    When I bought my 2 Genny’s (from different dealers) eventually they met my price (I never backed off of my price) so, it’s hard to argue with yourself when you get your price.

    Contrast that with what happened when Mrs. j got her first Subie (2012) from a dealer in the Columbus Ohio area. Son #1 and I researched what we thought would be a good price. This dealer sent each of us what looked like a standard email signed only by the dealership on a Sunday night with a price that was just a little more than what I wanted to pay. Twenty minutes later I (not my Son) got an email with what they called their E-Price sent by a salesman. This price was around $350 less than what I was willing to pay. I called my Son and we both agreed if they weren’t playing games that price had to be getting into their hold-back money.

    I called Monday morning after I got to work and had my coffee and did some small talking with the salesman who sent the last email. I was thinking I’d try to get an even better price using the philosophy of, “if you don’t ask, you don’t get”. I’ll never forget the salesman saying, “@Mr. jmonroe, from talking with you a little bit, I can tell you know something about the car biz so you have to know we’re already into our hold-back money so I can’t sell the car for anything less than our E-Price”. And that ended the call. I let him stew about my offer until after lunch and I called back and took their E-price since it was better than what I was expecting to get.

    I tried to get a little greedy but it didn’t work but I’m not sorry that I tried.

    jmonroe
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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,516
    @tifighter

    Great pics! I assume you drove the Tesla there? LOL!

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,713
    stickguy said:

    nyccarguy said:

    @oldfarmer50 said:

    I got a chuckle over the blue box at the top of this page asking anyone who traded with negative equity to contact a reporter. IDK, if I did that I wouldn’t want to admit to the world that I had been so foolish.

    You’d be surprised how many people trade in with negative equity without even knowing it.

    “We can get you out of your lease clean. You won’t have to pay any over mileage charges, excess wear & tear charges, and we’ll even save you the disposition fee.”

    They don’t tell you that you will be rolling $5K worth of negative equity into your 36 month lease.

    well, during my lease days, that fell into the "I don't care" bucket! Basically if I had my target terms, and they met them, I was good with it and didn't really matter to me how they made them work. And yes, I know that means in theory I could have worked the deal lower, but considering I only leased when the deal seemed to be below what was possible, didn't want to be greedy!





    This can work as well. Being a ‘payment shopper’ is not always a bad thing if the buyer is well informed. Particularly on leases where there is most likely no positive equity.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,562
    I'll take the Dakar 911.

    Is that a lowered Figaro?

    Who allowed that guy to screw up a perfectly nice 240Z?

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,315
    The Little Tykes Smart Car with tank tracks is cool, but I bet it drives terribly.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    Some people should not be allowed to own vehicles based on those pics.

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,196
    corvette said:

    The Little Tykes Smart Car with tank tracks is cool, but I bet it drives terribly.

    Isn't that redundant, a Smart Car that drives terribly? :#

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435

    IMO the whole point of leasing is to be a payment buyer!

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,791

    @nyccarguy said:
    @tifighter

    Great pics! I assume you drove the Tesla there? LOL!

    Which one?

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,791

    @corvette said:
    The Little Tykes Smart Car with tank tracks is cool, but I bet it drives terribly.

    Guy said he drove it 10 miles to get there. This seems insane. This meetup was in the middle of Seattle.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,791

    @ab348 said:
    Some people should not be allowed to own vehicles based on those pics.

    Don’t worry, PCA also had a gathering with rows of identical looking 911s as well.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    tifighter said:

    @corvette said:

    The Little Tykes Smart Car with tank tracks is cool, but I bet it drives terribly.

    Guy said he drove it 10 miles to get there. This seems insane. This meetup was in the middle of Seattle.


    The worst part of that drive would not have been because of the tank tracks. It is having to drive a Smart Car for 10 miles...
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435

    I like the wedge version better.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    the 6 is horrifically ugly.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,454
    The old Passat parked next to the 240Z is more interesting than the sub-10 micron trucks.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,516
    Very low mileage 2005 BMW M3

    When is the last time you saw a 2nd Generation Integra in this shape?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,966
    That Integra looks nice.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    nyccarguy said:

    Very low mileage 2005 BMW M3

    When is the last time you saw a 2nd Generation Integra in this shape?

    I like that M3, but I think I'd rather have this E28 M5.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435

    Lovely integra. I looked at those new back when they first came out. But the rat belts just kill it for me.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435

    M5 is nice but IMO just seems so wrong slammed like that.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,562
    stickguy said:

    Lovely integra. I looked at those new back when they first came out. But the rat belts just kill it for me.

    I inherited a rat belt car when I got married in 1993. Hated that with a passion. 😕

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,966
    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    Lovely integra. I looked at those new back when they first came out. But the rat belts just kill it for me.

    I inherited a rat belt car when I got married in 1993. Hated that with a passion. 😕
    My 91 Sentra had the belts attached to the door rather than the B-pillar. I guess the idea was you kept the belt buckled even when you opened the door.

    Just no real good solutions to that problem. Glad when airbags became standard and all that nonsense went away.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,562
    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    Lovely integra. I looked at those new back when they first came out. But the rat belts just kill it for me.

    I inherited a rat belt car when I got married in 1993. Hated that with a passion. 😕
    My 91 Sentra had the belts attached to the door rather than the B-pillar. I guess the idea was you kept the belt buckled even when you opened the door.

    Just no real good solutions to that problem. Glad when airbags became standard and all that nonsense went away.
    Our Nissan (240 SX) had the rat belts. VW had the door belts, but you still had to buckle your lap belt.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435

    One of the reasons I sold my favorite car I had ever had (Mazda 626 5 door) after about 6 years/90k was I hated those darned belts.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,516
    edited March 2024
    The Sales Manager from the Lexus dealership called and left a voice mail:

    “I just spoke with (Salesman) and I think we can do a deal. Please call me back to discuss the particulars.”

    I called back and left a message

    To be continued... (if you know, you know)

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,762
    edited March 2024
    Fun auction on this nice little wagon. 2 people want it, already in OT.
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