Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

explorerx4

breld is planning ahead and making room for more vehicles.

pensfan83

We've been stashing money in a HYS account with an eye on a full kitchen renovation since we'll be here another decade probably.

stickguy

Son Likes the telluride. Does not mention the Audi much but does appreciate the meaty tires.

His recent regret was when I sent him a rodo offer on an SQ5 sport back lease (his boss was looking at a Q5 SB and I was doing research). It was much better than the base model and actually surprisingly cheap. He said if that had been an option he would have leased that instead of buying the Kia.

jmonroe1

Michaell said:

@breld said:

Punches for the @breld family will be light this year, if not a complete break.

As @michaell mentioned, our two EVs are leased, with both maturing in 2025. I’m not gonna let that Corvette go yet. We’ll see how Mrs. Breld feels once the X5 returns from the body shop. On that note, the preliminary estimate on that damage was in the $3k range, which we knew was laughable. Apparently we were right…now that the SUV is at the shop, the estimate has ballooned to five figures. I imagine the young woman who was reading her texts instead of looking ahead at the stopped traffic may have trouble renewing her insurance.

We’re also into phase II of working with an interior designer on the house…who knew that a brand new home needed so much work? We could buy another Bronco for what we’re putting into the basement…and keep in mind the basement was already finished.

What are you doing down there? I didn’t think it needed much.

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Yeah but you ain’t an “official interior designer” who works on lucrative sales commissions.

jmonroe

Sandman6472

Have decided to remove the old tint and not replace it quite yet. I know it'll be super hot when I get back to the vehicle after work but am willing to live with it for awhile. Funny, we picked up some vehicles at a tint shop in West Palm today and they had samples of tint with the % of tint on a wall so I could really see the difference. So, if I do decide to have tint re-applied in the future, need to go back there and really spend some time looking at the different choices. The current tint was supposed to be the lightest our original guy had in stock but it was pretty dark and even though we both questioned the installer, he assured us it was his lightest shade. Think if we had more choices, we would've been much happier. Guess the folks who do it mobile only seem to carry a few choices instead of the seven or eight I saw today. Luckily, I took home one of their promotional pens which has their address and e-mail address as they are up in West Palm Beach which is a good 40 miles from us.

If I do decide to re-tint the car, which is at 50/50 right now, I really want more choices and I'm assuming tinting products have improved in the last nine years. Right now, both Hyundai's in the family are tint-less and looks like it'll stay that way. I will not do it again if all they can offer is the same dark tint as before. But seeing the choices I did see today gives me hope that I can find the lightest tint possible with a good amount of heat protection.

Sandman6472

That same light that came on when the tranny cable broke about 5 months ago has reared it's ugly head a few times in the last month which has made me a bit anxious. I'm hoping it's nothing as I'm hoping the tint guy can come this week to take it all off. But, am still torn between just replacing the car. This was so much easier back in 2014 when the new Audi was in the garage and felt it was time to just dump the Tucson and get something fun. But, still think the best choice is to wait another year, or in December, see what's out there and then make a decision. The new 2025 Nissan Kicks will be out also so I can add that to my short list. Best thing here is that I've got plenty saved up so far and waiting a bit longer will mean I won't have to finance anything, something I don't want to do in the first place.

Honestly, this has been one of the toughest decisions in my whole life. Think I'm still a bit gun shy after the whole Hyundai Tucson debacle and just don't want to have buyers remorse afterwards. And sometimes I think, with a difficult decision, just doing nothing for a bit longer is the best decision of all. This really should be an easy decision like it was when I bought the Golf. I just knew, just knew within 5 minutes behind the wheel I was going to own this vehicle eventually. And right now, nothing out there gives me that same gut reaction which is a sign I need to sit back and wait a bit longer. And that's o k...as long as nothing goes wrong with the Golf. But, that's a risk I'm willing to take!

tjc78

Playing third base coach for a friend looking for a CRV lease OMG. They are proud of those.

One dealer wouldn’t take any of three BS packages off ($3000) and another basically said “it’s sticker price up and all add/ons are mandatory”

I sent them the broker who got Mom the CX-50

Speaking of that… she loves it! She feels it’s a much nicer drive than the Murano and the size is perfect.

tjc78

tjc78

The trade was a wash not sure why it’s even included other than maybe a tax break. It’s a lease and can just go back

Michaell

tjc78 said:

The trade was a wash not sure why it’s even included other than maybe a tax break. It’s a lease and can just go back

The $2800 of accessories (what are they?) makes this a stupendously bad deal. $90/mo right there.

explorerx4

Post Doc Fee. HA HA.

sda

What trim level CR-V?

nyccarguy

@tjc78

That's why these dealers are choking on inventory right now. They're all building new showrooms too. I understand if the manufacturer's program is awful, but don't tell me that I'm lucky that the car is "only " selling for MSRP. I know too that not everybody within reason is going to be able to touch the broker's price.

The extras are out of control here:

23/24 VEK: $995
CILAJET: $895
THREEFORONE: $899

Michaell

sda said:

What trim level CR-V?

Looks like the Hybrid Sport Touring - the ne plus ultra trim.

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

@tjc78

That's why these dealers are choking on inventory right now. They're all building new showrooms too. I understand if the manufacturer's program is awful, but don't tell me that I'm lucky that the car is "only " selling for MSRP. I know too that not everybody within reason is going to be able to touch the broker's price.

The extras are out of control here:

23/24 VEK: $995
CILAJET: $895
THREEFORONE: $899

Yeah, and what are those?

Could I get a ONEFORONE for $299?

venture

tjc78 said:

Good God! How do they sell anything?

stickguy

That’s almost $27k to rent a CRV for 3 years. And if you buy it out at residual and pay 7% sales tax (without even counting in financing costs or dealer ir DMV fee) you are going to be into it for 54k.

Run like the wind from that place bullseye.

tjc78

@Michaell said:
Looks like the Hybrid Sport Touring - the ne plus ultra trim.

Yes that is what it was.

I pretty much said to her this is not the vehicle to lease right now

pensfan83

That dealer is charging MSRP+ because people keep paying MSRP+ to them.

cdnpinhead

venture said:

Good God! How do they sell anything?

Just remember the P. T. Barnum quote, which I don't think I need to repeat here.

jmonroe1

Michaell said:

nyccarguy said:

@tjc78

That's why these dealers are choking on inventory right now. They're all building new showrooms too. I understand if the manufacturer's program is awful, but don't tell me that I'm lucky that the car is "only " selling for MSRP. I know too that not everybody within reason is going to be able to touch the broker's price.

The extras are out of control here:

23/24 VEK: $995
CILAJET: $895
THREEFORONE: $899

Yeah, and what are those?

Could I get a ONEFORONE for $299?

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Yeah, @tjc78, I’d also like to know what those are. Who knows, I might want those but I know I don’t want the “etch registration”.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

Playing third base coach for a friend looking for a CRV lease OMG. They are proud of those.

One dealer wouldn’t take any of three BS packages off ($3000) and another basically said “it’s sticker price up and all add/ons are mandatory”

I sent them the broker who got Mom the CX-50

Speaking of that… she loves it! She feels it’s a much nicer drive than the Murano and the size is perfect.

I think that’s just because they are Honda dealers. They have well regarded cars and can sell all they can get so they figure why not gouge the customer. Negotiations with the Honda place that had my truck was extremely difficult although I did get them to drop the useless VIN etching that they listed as “theft deterrence”.

That they thought they could slap a corny scam like that on a non-Honda used car makes me think they are used to getting their way.

explorerx4

When my wife bought her 2016 MKC, the finance guy put Window Etching on the contract for $199.
I told him I didn't want it. He said "But it's already on there". Being nice, I said "I'll give you $100 for it".
It did have an insurance component to it. He said "Never mind".
He was such a jerk that he made us go back to the salesperson's desk and the guy had to go back an forth between us and the office for each thing.
I was really happy when we were walking out of there and 'Jerry' (he looked like Jennifer Grey's dad in Dirty Dancing) hadn't realized he forgot to ask me for the title to my trade in.
He caught up to us and asked for the title. I wanted to throw it on the ground but knew he would ask the salesman to pick it up, so I handed it to the salesman who handed it to him.

stickguy

This is a pretty cheap payment for a $50k sticker!

Michaell

stickguy said:

This is a pretty cheap payment for a $50k sticker!

How much of that $3800 is cap reduction?

stickguy

Didn’t check but if you go to everything included so truly 1st payment only at drive off it was about $474/month. Still not bad in a $50k car if you need something for a couple of years.

stickguy

For a little extra upgrade to a Lexus.

stickguy

For the CRV people, a not top line hybrid is more than the Lexus.

Michaell

stickguy said:

For the CRV people, a not top line hybrid is more than the Lexus.

Yeah, the Honda doesn't come with $16K in incentives.

EVs are a great lease deal, at the moment. Way under 1% of MSRP, for the most part.

We figure a good 60% or more of the questions we get in the forums are for EV/PHEV models.

explorerx4

@stickguy,
Are you working as a car salesman? NX is 7.5K/year. Honda is 10K/year.

stickguy

close enough. add $15 month to even it up.

kyfdx

explorerx4 said:

When my wife bought her 2016 MKC, the finance guy put Window Etching on the contract for $199.
I told him I didn't want it. He said "But it's already on there". Being nice, I said "I'll give you $100 for it".
It did have an insurance component to it. He said "Never mind".
He was such a jerk that he made us go back to the salesperson's desk and the guy had to go back an forth between us and the office for each thing.
I was really happy when we were walking out of there and 'Jerry' (he looked like Jennifer Grey's dad in Dirty Dancing) hadn't realized he forgot to ask me for the title to my trade in.
He caught up to us and asked for the title. I wanted to throw it on the ground but knew he would ask the salesman to pick it up, so I handed it to the salesman who handed it to him.

Jerry Orbach. The GOAT of Law and Order.

nyccarguy

@kyfdx said:
Jerry Orbach. The GOAT of Law and Order.

Detective Lenny Brisco!

roadburner

Arethere any decent third party extended warranties? A friend was asking and I didn't know of any.

corvette

The one CarMax sells is pretty good, from what I've heard. It used to be underwritten by CNA, not sure whether it still is. I'd be wary of any warranty provider that may be in a position to become insolvent and cease paying the underwriter, as that may invalidate existing warranties--that happened to customers of Warranty Gold (I think) and some others in the early 2000s.

If I wanted one, I'd strongly prefer (and be willing to pay a premium for) an OE-backed extended warranty.

jmonroe1

roadburner said:

Arethere any decent third party extended warranties? A friend was asking and I didn't know of any.

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I’ve heard from a couple folks that Endurance is probably the best third party warranty company. Car Shield is not as good but they rely on their heavy advertising. I have to see Car Shield commercials on TV at least 4 or 5 times a day.

Personally, I’d stay with the car manufacturers extended warranty. Probably pay more but is probably worth it.

jmonroe

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

@kyfdx said:

Jerry Orbach. The GOAT of Law and Order.

Detective Lenny Brisco!

I tried to find a site with his best one-liners. Turns out there are multiple videos for different seasons.

mjfloyd1

@roadburner said:
Arethere any decent third party extended warranties? A friend was asking and I didn't know of any.

What brand of car and is it in factory warranty still?

I’d always lean towards the manufacturer brand warranty if possible.

Otherwise the Fidelity Platinum and Zurich are used by MB/BMW/Porsche guys.

I’d suspect Allstate is reputable- they have VSC. I’ve used them for wheel and tire with no issues.

pensfan83

That 1999 Prelude SH sold for $8,200 and there's another 1997 Prelude on Facebook marketplace for $6,500 that has over 160K...and that one is auto. I may need to revaluate my asking price.

nyccarguy

pensfan83 said:

That 1999 Prelude SH sold for $8,200 and there's another 1997 Prelude on Facebook marketplace for $6,500 that has over 160K...and that one is auto. I may need to revaluate my asking price.

That was on Bring A Trailer?

You think you are asking too much or too little?

nyccarguy

pensfan83 said:

That 1999 Prelude SH sold for $8,200 and there's another 1997 Prelude on Facebook marketplace for $6,500 that has over 160K...and that one is auto. I may need to revaluate my asking price.

I just saw a '93 (4th Generation) Si Automatic with only 52K miles sell for $9,100 on Cars & Bids

explorerx4

I'm following a RUF Porsche on BAT. Bidding up to 964K with about 2 1/2 hours left.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

I'm following a RUF Porsche on BAT. Bidding up to 964K with about 2 1/2 hours left.

Could you link that, I’m not up on the euro cars but I’d like to see what a million dollars gets you these days.

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oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

I'm following a RUF Porsche on BAT. Bidding up to 964K with about 2 1/2 hours left.

Could you link that, I’m not up on the euro cars but I’d like to see what a million dollars gets you these days.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-ruf-rct/

laurasdada

explorerx4 said:

I'm following a RUF Porsche on BAT. Bidding up to 964K with about 2 1/2 hours left.

You'll swoop in with a last minute bid?

kyfdx

laurasdada said:

explorerx4 said:

I'm following a RUF Porsche on BAT. Bidding up to 964K with about 2 1/2 hours left.

You'll swoop in with a last minute bid?

I'd have to get my credit card limit increased, just for the BaT fee.

laurasdada

kyfdx said:

laurasdada said:

explorerx4 said:

I'm following a RUF Porsche on BAT. Bidding up to 964K with about 2 1/2 hours left.

You'll swoop in with a last minute bid?

I'd have to get my credit card limit increased, just for the BaT fee.

But think of the points you'll get!
Maybe use a couple of cards, that should do it.

laurasdada

Paging @Sandman6472!
I think I've found your next car, a near-brother of mine. Welcome to the club, let us know when you pick it up...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2018-bmw-m240i-convertible/

stickguy

That bmw would match my truck nicely! Just need to change the interior color. And put
Much bigger sidewalls on it. 225/40 = broken wheels with the roads around here.

stickguy

If you can swap in a manual trans that would also be good!