Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

laurasdada

A Ford Country Squire wagon, '69 or '70, after six months of ownership had my father swear off domestics. Eventually, he decided to try domestic again and bought a Cadillac Catera. I'm sure you know how that went. So, back to the imports and happiness.

Personally, I've owned two domestics (Dodge Intrepid and Chrysler 300M) and not had any real issues to report. Just sub-par build quality (as is said, panel gaps you could drive a truck through!), but nothing really fell off or exploded.
I also sold them before they turned 70k miles 'cuz I knew there was an explosion coming (likely tranny or front end, maybe AC).

I still think the best screwed together car I've owned was my '88 Integra, close the door and you were hermetically sealed in.

au1994

laurasdada said:

A Ford Country Squire wagon, '69 or '70, after six months of ownership had my father swear off domestics. Eventually, he decided to try domestic again and bought a Cadillac Catera. I'm sure you know how that went. So, back to the imports and happiness.

Personally, I've owned two domestics (Dodge Intrepid and Chrysler 300M) and not had any real issues to report. Just sub-par build quality (as is said, panel gaps you could drive a truck through!), but nothing really fell off or exploded.
I also sold them before they turned 70k miles 'cuz I knew there was an explosion coming (likely tranny or front end, maybe AC).

I still think the best screwed together car I've owned was my '88 Integra, close the door and you were hermetically sealed in.

Acuras and Hondas of that era were bank vaults that would run forever with basic maintenance.

jmonroe1

qbrozen said:

@stickguy said:

Q has a wire attached to him. That takes his solution off the driver table.

Gotta get power somehow. I certainly wouldn’t want to be swapping in double As every couple of months.

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If they made them to accept D size they’d last longer than double A’s but then you’d need heavy duty mounting bolts.

jmonroe

stickguy

au1994 said:

laurasdada said:

A Ford Country Squire wagon, '69 or '70, after six months of ownership had my father swear off domestics. Eventually, he decided to try domestic again and bought a Cadillac Catera. I'm sure you know how that went. So, back to the imports and happiness.

Personally, I've owned two domestics (Dodge Intrepid and Chrysler 300M) and not had any real issues to report. Just sub-par build quality (as is said, panel gaps you could drive a truck through!), but nothing really fell off or exploded.
I also sold them before they turned 70k miles 'cuz I knew there was an explosion coming (likely tranny or front end, maybe AC).

I still think the best screwed together car I've owned was my '88 Integra, close the door and you were hermetically sealed in.

Acuras and Hondas of that era were bank vaults that would run forever with basic maintenance.

as long as you did not live in the salt belt because they rusted hard.

kyfdx

stickguy said:

au1994 said:

laurasdada said:

A Ford Country Squire wagon, '69 or '70, after six months of ownership had my father swear off domestics. Eventually, he decided to try domestic again and bought a Cadillac Catera. I'm sure you know how that went. So, back to the imports and happiness.

Personally, I've owned two domestics (Dodge Intrepid and Chrysler 300M) and not had any real issues to report. Just sub-par build quality (as is said, panel gaps you could drive a truck through!), but nothing really fell off or exploded.
I also sold them before they turned 70k miles 'cuz I knew there was an explosion coming (likely tranny or front end, maybe AC).

I still think the best screwed together car I've owned was my '88 Integra, close the door and you were hermetically sealed in.

Acuras and Hondas of that era were bank vaults that would run forever with basic maintenance.

as long as you did not live in the salt belt because they rusted hard.

Still got 12 years out of my '82 Accord, which was basically never garaged. Yes, it rusted.. no, it didn't affect utility.

roadburner

I strongly suspect that my vehicle fleet will continue to consist of Germans and Jeeps. It's worked well for me for decades, and I see no reason to change.

stickguy

If I needed a new car soon, no clue what I would get. Though I did get fixated on a Ridgeline as a single replacement for both of our cars. That could be the easy choice. The other "fun" car could be tricky.

au1994

stickguy said:

If I needed a new car soon, no clue what I would get. Though I did get fixated on a Ridgeline as a single replacement for both of our cars. That could be the easy choice. The other "fun" car could be tricky.

The Ridgeline would tick a lot of boxes. It’s a prev gen Pilot with a bed which is not a bad thing at all. It’s bigger than the Maverick so it sells the case on a small, fun car. More than the Mav of course but what’s a few grand between friends.

stickguy

I would need the wife to drive the ridgeline first to see if she is comfortable with it. If not, that limits a bit what the 2nd car can be.

nyccarguy

@28firefighter

Did you say you were coming into town or was that @pensfan83 ?

stickguy

Pens I think, hanging at the Garden.

laurasdada

roadburner said:

I strongly suspect that my vehicle fleet will continue to consist of Germans and Jeeps. It's worked well for me for decades, and I see no reason to change.

I'm likely similar, sans Jeep. Drove one for work in high school and have been a passenger a few times. No need here.

As I'm probably the only one here that's not owned a Porsche, I'm thinking that may be next on the hit list. Although there'll always be a Britian still tugs at my car heart-strings (AM? Dare I?).

If I drive a Lucid, wonder if the insta-torque will have me rethinking life?

roadburner

@laurasdada said:
I'm likely similar, sans Jeep. Drove one for work in high school and have been a passenger a few times. No need here.

As I'm probably the only one here that's not owned a Porsche, I'm thinking that may be next on the hit list. Although there'll always be a Britian still tugs at my car heart-strings (AM? Dare I?).

If I drive a Lucid, wonder if the insta-torque will have me rethinking life?

I have to admit that I would still like to have a newer 911. My SA at BMW has an older Aston and he absolutely loves it. And I still wouldn’t mind picking up a Jensen Interceptor.
The day I buy a soul-slaughtering appliance will be the day my wife takes out a mental inquest warrant for me because she will be absolutely certain that I have taken leave of my senses.

28firefighter

Not I!

nyccarguy

"The day I buy a soul-slaughtering appliance"

I had similar thoughts to this for quite a long time. I even convinced myself to buy a 175 horsepower 2015 Subaru Legacy which truly made my driving life miserable for 2 1/2 years. The condition of the roads don't seem to be improving at all. For every road that they repave around here, it seems like there are 5 more that are broken and then ripped up to prepare for repaving. Traffic is just horrendous and my commute isn't getting any shorter. I live 32 miles from where I work. Leaving at 6:30 AM it takes me a solid hour to get in. Half of that time is just crawling along for the last 3-4 miles. Going home is worse. 1 hour & 15 minutes to 1 and a half hours. That being said, my love and lust for cars has worn down considerably.

My 2023 Tacoma SR has proven to be a wonderful commuting companion. The V6 has plenty of power for merging. It feels great loafing along at 60 mph or when it needs to hustle along at 75. The ride height and high sidewall 16" tires just go over anything. Potholes, speed bumps, expansion joints, raised manhole covers, & broken pavement.

Since the weather has turned nicer I've been seeing more and more nice weather cars out there. The other night on my way to hockey practice there was a previous generation Mustang GT with what looked like the "non performance package" smaller wheels, a modified exhaust, stick shift, what looked like a carbon fiber decklid and non stock CF hood in a dark grey that just looked and sounded phenomenal. 911s, Boxsters, & some gorgeous Caymans too. I've got the cover off of my Prelude and am trying to make arrangements to get it somewhere to have its cooling system revamped so I can put some miles on it.

Spring of 2025 is going to be interesting as I've got some automotive decisions to make. The lease on the Wrangler is up and it is going back. When my son starts school in September, maybe I'll have my wife drive it until the lease is up. I leased it for her to begin with anyway. I can keep the Tacoma parked at home to keep the miles off of it and drive the Highlander. Depending on how things go with the Prelude and the fact that I might have some equity in the Tacoma, I might go for a WRX or Integra A-Spec with a 6 Speed. I'd be open to cheap leasing an EV like a polestar or maybe even a PHEV S60 for her. Do we need the Highlander anymore? I don't know. Don't forget I'll need something cheap to have my (now) 15 year old learn to drive on and my (now) 17 year old drive to his summer job.

stickguy

You really want to use a manual trans sporty car with super skinny sidewalls on your commute?

I know what you mean about the roads. Some up here are just brutal. Both our cars have plenty of meat though. Whatever I get for the fun car might require a recalibration of how I drive!

You also point out an advantage (ok, a difference) for getting older. Your needs change and have less need for dragging as many people around. Once they get into their own wheels it’s a new world!

jmonroe1

nyccarguy said:

…My 2023 Tacoma SR has proven to be a wonderful commuting companion. The V6 has plenty of power for merging. It feels great loafing along at 60 mph or when it needs to hustle along at 75. The ride height and high sidewall 16" tires just go over anything. Potholes, speed bumps, expansion joints, raised manhole covers, & broken pavement…

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I’m going to go out on a limb and say if @roadburner ever saw 75 MPH, for any length of time on his speedometer, he’d think his car went into limp mode.

jmonroe

laurasdada

roadburner said:

@laurasdada said:

I'm likely similar, sans Jeep. Drove one for work in high school and have been a passenger a few times. No need here.

As I'm probably the only one here that's not owned a Porsche, I'm thinking that may be next on the hit list. Although there'll always be a Britian still tugs at my car heart-strings (AM? Dare I?).

If I drive a Lucid, wonder if the insta-torque will have me rethinking life?

I have to admit that I would still like to have a newer 911. My SA at BMW has an older Aston and he absolutely loves it. And I still wouldn’t mind picking up a Jensen Interceptor.

The day I buy a soul-slaughtering appliance will be the day my wife takes out a mental inquest warrant for me because she will be absolutely certain that I have taken leave of my senses.

Were you referring to the Lucid (or any BEV?) as the appliance? Or just your credo...

The M240 certainly pegs the torque-o-meter, I simply so enjoy driving it vs the A7. Which, I also enjoy when used for its mission statement, absolutely no knock against this lovely GT.

Local BMW dealer sent me an offer to trade my '20 M240 for a '24 M240 coupe, not a bad start deal-wise with a seemingly decent trade-in offer (KBB based). But it ain't a sunshine machine, so at the moment, I see no reason to trade.

I was going to take the wife to the Cape Cod canal for a waterside picnic dinner last night as the weather was finally not cool and drenching. But, and this becomes more of a four-letter word with each passing day, work! Online to 7pm, setting sun dimming the opportunity.

roadburner

@laurasdada said:
Were you referring to the Lucid (or any BEV?) as the appliance? Or just your credo...

The M240 certainly pegs the torque-o-meter, I simply so enjoy driving it vs the A7. Which, I also enjoy when used for its mission statement, absolutely no knock against this lovely GT.

Local BMW dealer sent me an offer to trade my '20 M240 for a '24 M240 coupe, not a bad start deal-wise with a seemingly decent trade-in offer (KBB based). But it ain't a sunshine machine, so at the moment, I see no reason to trade.

I was going to take the wife to the Cape Cod canal for a waterside picnic dinner last night as the weather was finally not cool and drenching. But, and this becomes more of a four-letter word with each passing day, work! Online to 7pm, setting sun dimming the opportunity.

I don’t consider EVs to be appliances. That said, I’m much more receptive to PHEVs. As for the new M240i, the more I look at them -inside and out- the more grateful I am that I bought the C43 instead.

corvette

Anyone been to (or going to) Radwood? I'm thinking I could probably drive up to the Detroit one later this year, although I'd probably also enjoy the Amelia Island concours next year, if that one coincides with that event.

oldfarmer50

laurasdada said:

roadburner said:

I strongly suspect that my vehicle fleet will continue to consist of Germans and Jeeps. It's worked well for me for decades, and I see no reason to change.

I'm likely similar, sans Jeep. Drove one for work in high school and have been a passenger a few times. No need here.

As I'm probably the only one here that's not owned a Porsche, I'm thinking that may be next on the hit list. Although there'll always be a Britian still tugs at my car heart-strings (AM? Dare I?).

If I drive a Lucid, wonder if the insta-torque will have me rethinking life?

I’ve never owned a Porsche, not even a hooptie one, although I’ve driven a few at work.

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

"The day I buy a soul-slaughtering appliance"

I had similar thoughts to this for quite a long time. I even convinced myself to buy a 175 horsepower 2015 Subaru Legacy which truly made my driving life miserable for 2 1/2 years. The condition of the roads don't seem to be improving at all. For every road that they repave around here, it seems like there are 5 more that are broken and then ripped up to prepare for repaving. Traffic is just horrendous and my commute isn't getting any shorter. I live 32 miles from where I work. Leaving at 6:30 AM it takes me a solid hour to get in. Half of that time is just crawling along for the last 3-4 miles. Going home is worse. 1 hour & 15 minutes to 1 and a half hours. That being said, my love and lust for cars has worn down considerably.

I can see that happening if you can’t drive a sports car to its’ full potential.

https://youtu.be/AjFhZoxK_QM?si=0uzgNntX6iRgbaWF

ronsteve

I developed a real appreciation for late 80s/early 90s Honda and Acura products because my brother owned a string of them in the back half of the '90s. I learned stick on his '86 Accord hatchback, and also had some seat time with his '93 Accord sedan (auto, unfortunately) and '89 Integra (manual). Every damn one of them felt more solid than my '94 Saturn, got decent MPG and handled well.

I was all in when my first wife found a '93 del Sol when we moved to the Carolina coast in 2001. That was the most fun car I have ever (co-)owned, and we had it for a too-short 18 months before she got in a tight spot with a lumber truck. My 2002 Accord V6 Coupe was nice enough, but a bit of a letdown as Honda was getting away from what had made their cars in the '80s and early '90s so good.

Now in almost 6 years with the RDX, I've had more problems (some of them expensive) than with either of the European cars I owned long-term. No telling whether I'll look at Acura or Audi when it comes time to replace it. I guess some of that will depend on how the Tiguan behaves. Or how the RDX continues to behave.

Michaell

ronsteve said:

I developed a real appreciation for late 80s/early 90s Honda and Acura products because my brother owned a string of them in the back half of the '90s. I learned stick on his '86 Accord hatchback, and also had some seat time with his '93 Accord sedan (auto, unfortunately) and '89 Integra (manual). Every damn one of them felt more solid than my '94 Saturn, got decent MPG and handled well.

I was all in when my first wife found a '93 del Sol when we moved to the Carolina coast in 2001. That was the most fun car I have ever (co-)owned, and we had it for a too-short 18 months before she got in a tight spot with a lumber truck. My 2002 Accord V6 Coupe was nice enough, but a bit of a letdown as Honda was getting away from what had made their cars in the '80s and early '90s so good.

Now in almost 6 years with the RDX, I've had more problems (some of them expensive) than with either of the European cars I owned long-term. No telling whether I'll look at Acura or Audi when it comes time to replace it. I guess some of that will depend on how the Tiguan behaves. Or how the RDX continues to behave.

Agreed. I had an '85 Accord Hatch with a 5-speed, then the (first) wife and I had a '92 Accord LX sedan before we split up. After I moved to Denver, I picked up a leftover '93 Accord DX, also with a stick.

All three were bulletproof. I owned the '85 from about 16K to 56K and I think I only ever changed the oil and put new tires on it. Drove it from CA to MI and back in the fall of 1986.

The '93 DX only had about 55K put on it in the 5+ years it was in my possession - it spent a lot of time in airport parking lots, and I didn't really road trip in it all that much, what with there being no AC in it. Still, no real mechanical issues.

qbrozen

@laurasdada said:
I'm likely similar, sans Jeep. Drove one for work in high school and have been a passenger a few times. No need here.

As I'm probably the only one here that's not owned a Porsche, I'm thinking that may be next on the hit list. Although there'll always be a Britian still tugs at my car heart-strings (AM? Dare I?).

If I drive a Lucid, wonder if the insta-torque will have me rethinking life?

No porsche for me, yet. Definitely on the list, though. As is AM. And Jag. And Ferrari. The latter is the least likely, of course. I probably should start a “hit list” for myself. Some will be REALLY hard to check off, such as Peugeot, Renault, and Citroen, while others may be impossible, such as Seat.

kyfdx

Can't you find some weird Peugeot to import? Didn't they sell in Japan?

stickguy

They were all over Portugal. LHD too!

qbrozen

@kyfdx said:
Can't you find some weird Peugeot to import? Didn't they sell in Japan?

Always on the lookout.
Peugeots almost never come up.
Renault Alpines on occasion
Citroen Xanthia once in a while. Several 2CVs, but not terribly interested in those, especially at their silly prices.

The scarcity along with my condition requirements make for a tall order. I think I have bid on 2 Alpines in the past 2 years.

nyccarguy

ronsteve said:

I developed a real appreciation for late 80s/early 90s Honda and Acura products because my brother owned a string of them in the back half of the '90s. I learned stick on his '86 Accord hatchback, and also had some seat time with his '93 Accord sedan (auto, unfortunately) and '89 Integra (manual). Every damn one of them felt more solid than my '94 Saturn, got decent MPG and handled well.

I was all in when my first wife found a '93 del Sol when we moved to the Carolina coast in 2001. That was the most fun car I have ever (co-)owned, and we had it for a too-short 18 months before she got in a tight spot with a lumber truck. My 2002 Accord V6 Coupe was nice enough, but a bit of a letdown as Honda was getting away from what had made their cars in the '80s and early '90s so good.

Now in almost 6 years with the RDX, I've had more problems (some of them expensive) than with either of the European cars I owned long-term. No telling whether I'll look at Acura or Audi when it comes time to replace it. I guess some of that will depend on how the Tiguan behaves. Or how the RDX continues to behave.

My 2001 Prelude Type SH is an awesome car that I have an undying love for has NEVER left me stranded. It has however cost me a small fortune in maintenance for a vehicle that had a sticker price of $26,000 back in 2001.

roadburner

nyccarguy said:

ronsteve said:

I developed a real appreciation for late 80s/early 90s Honda and Acura products because my brother owned a string of them in the back half of the '90s. I learned stick on his '86 Accord hatchback, and also had some seat time with his '93 Accord sedan (auto, unfortunately) and '89 Integra (manual). Every damn one of them felt more solid than my '94 Saturn, got decent MPG and handled well.

I was all in when my first wife found a '93 del Sol when we moved to the Carolina coast in 2001. That was the most fun car I have ever (co-)owned, and we had it for a too-short 18 months before she got in a tight spot with a lumber truck. My 2002 Accord V6 Coupe was nice enough, but a bit of a letdown as Honda was getting away from what had made their cars in the '80s and early '90s so good.

Now in almost 6 years with the RDX, I've had more problems (some of them expensive) than with either of the European cars I owned long-term. No telling whether I'll look at Acura or Audi when it comes time to replace it. I guess some of that will depend on how the Tiguan behaves. Or how the RDX continues to behave.

My 2001 Prelude Type SH is an awesome car that I have an undying love for has NEVER left me stranded. It has however cost me a small fortune in maintenance for a vehicle that had a sticker price of $26,000 back in 2001.

The Club Sport has had a few expensive repairs in the past few years, ameliorated somewhat by my BMW Rewards MasterCard. That said, I can't think of anything that I would want to replace it with- that I can afford, at any rate.

Sandman6472

Been dealing with the MPPV vertigo for a week now and it's pretty awful at times. Fell a few times so relying on my walker to get around. Been a tough few days getting some physical therapy set up as my usual place basically told me to find some place else as they are too busy now. We found a place in town but earliest I can get in is next Friday which sucks. Working ain't happening as I haven't even tried to get behind the wheel yet. Got a feeling I'll either be put on a leave of absence or asked to not come back which I understand. And the wife keeps telling me to suck it up which isn't that easy to do. My inner self has told me it's unsafe for me to get behind the wheel right now and that's what I will do. And worst comes to worse, might just retire again which I know will be a hard pill for her to get. Love my job but, am not going to put myself in a dangerous position to hurt myself or others.

But retiring for good might just be the best thing. No law that says couples have to retire at the same time. And am luckier then many as I do get a government pension. My folks were so unhappy I became a civil service employee but don't understand why as it's still paying me to this day! Personally, think it was the best decision I could've made. One thing though, any thoughts of buying a newer vehicle have vanished. Just glad the Golf is in good condition for being almost 10 years old and think it's got plenty of useful life left especially for my needs.

laurasdada

So sorry you (and all with maladies) are going through this, Sandy. But you are wise, a man's got to know his limitations...

jmonroe1

qbrozen said:

@kyfdx said:

Can't you find some weird Peugeot to import? Didn't they sell in Japan?

Always on the lookout.

Peugeots almost never come up.

Renault Alpines on occasion

Citroen Xanthia once in a while. Several 2CVs, but not terribly interested in those, especially at their silly prices.

The scarcity along with my condition requirements make for a tall order. I think I have bid on 2 Alpines in the past 2 years.

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Until you said condition mattered, I was going to say Columbo’s Peugeot is probably available.

jmonroe

stickguy

Do what is best for you sandy. Not what someone else tries to pressure you into for their own selfish reasons.

jmonroe1

@Sandman6472, hope this bout will end soon so you can get back to the job you like so much.

Good luck.

jmonroe

nyccarguy

I hope you start to get better soon @Sandman6472 !

corvette

Sandy, hope you feel better soon!

stickguy

My son sent a picture of his friends new car. He trade in his Jag (an XF I think, late teens maybe). On a telluride. I told him they were all becoming old farts.

Repair costs on the Jag were pushing a change. After taking my son’s telluride on a boys weekend trip to Maine apparently his friend was sold on the concept.

oldfarmer50

Sandman6472 said:

Been dealing with the MPPV vertigo for a week now and it's pretty awful at times. Fell a few times so relying on my walker to get around. Been a tough few days getting some physical therapy set up as my usual place basically told me to find some place else as they are too busy now. We found a place in town but earliest I can get in is next Friday which sucks. Working ain't happening as I haven't even tried to get behind the wheel yet. Got a feeling I'll either be put on a leave of absence or asked to not come back which I understand. And the wife keeps telling me to suck it up which isn't that easy to do. My inner self has told me it's unsafe for me to get behind the wheel right now and that's what I will do. And worst comes to worse, might just retire again which I know will be a hard pill for her to get. Love my job but, am not going to put myself in a dangerous position to hurt myself or others.

But retiring for good might just be the best thing. No law that says couples have to retire at the same time. And am luckier then many as I do get a government pension. My folks were so unhappy I became a civil service employee but don't understand why as it's still paying me to this day! Personally, think it was the best decision I could've made. One thing though, any thoughts of buying a newer vehicle have vanished. Just glad the Golf is in good condition for being almost 10 years old and think it's got plenty of useful life left especially for my needs.

Sorry to hear you’re having problems again but I wouldn’t worry about the company giving you the boot. Up here we have many who take the winter off with no repercussions. I have a feeling that they are so desperate to get reliable drivers that they will do almost anything to keep you.

roadburner

nyccarguy said:

I hope you start to get better soon @Sandman6472 !

Ditto!

laurasdada

stickguy said:

My son sent a picture of his friends new car. He trade in his Jag (an XF I think, late teens maybe). On a telluride. I told him they were all becoming old farts.

Repair costs on the Jag were pushing a change. After taking my son’s telluride on a boys weekend trip to Maine apparently his friend was sold on the concept.

Repair costs on an old British car? Liar!

But, tbh, my '13 XF did quite well out of warranty... tick, tick, tick...

stickguy

The mid sized 4 door sedan. Did I get the name right?

Michaell

stickguy said:

The mid sized 4 door sedan. Did I get the name right?

Yeah, XF is the mid size sedan.

XE was the smaller sedan

XK is the coupe/roadster

greg128

I can't seem to find consumer reviews anymore anywhere on edmunds. Previously clicking car reviews and inputting year make and model the expert review showed up along with the consumer reviews. I was curious about the Tundra V-6 turbo engine problems I have seen on YT from 2022 and on. I would like to know the owner experiences with the newer model. KB does have good consumer reviews but they generally cover multiple years. There are many unhappy owners on the Tundra forums with failures at very low mileage. A few have had their 2nd engine fail.

Some are quoting the cost for a new engine at around $30K. This is all very un-Toyota like as many of the old V-8 owners claim having over 200K miles with no problems. I don't think the new turbo longevity will be anywhere near the proven old setup. That V-8 engine is available remanufactured for a third of the cost of the new one.

explorerx4

The turbo's are not the problem with the Toyota V-6 engine. It's somewhere in the front of the engine in the crankshaft area.
The V-8 was rated at 14 mpg combined, so it could drain your wallet for a long time.
It did up the power game in pickup trucks, though when it was introduced.

kyfdx

greg128 said:

I can't seem to find consumer reviews anymore anywhere on edmunds. Previously clicking car reviews and inputting year make and model the expert review showed up along with the consumer reviews. I was curious about the Tundra V-6 turbo engine problems I have seen on YT from 2022 and on. I would like to know the owner experiences with the newer model. KB does have good consumer reviews but they generally cover multiple years. There are many unhappy owners on the Tundra forums with failures at very low mileage. A few have had their 2nd engine fail.

Some are quoting the cost for a new engine at around $30K. This is all very un-Toyota like as many of the old V-8 owners claim having over 200K miles with no problems. I don't think the new turbo longevity will be anywhere near the proven old setup. That V-8 engine is available remanufactured for a third of the cost of the new one.

https://www.edmunds.com/toyota/tundra/2022/

Click on Edmunds at top left of any Forums Page.
Car Reviews are on the header menu on that Edmunds landing page

laurasdada

Michaell said:

stickguy said:

The mid sized 4 door sedan. Did I get the name right?

Yeah, XF is the mid size sedan.

XE was the smaller sedan

XK is the coupe/roadster

And the XJ is the S-Class, 7, A8 battleship class... Well, was...

kyfdx

Not sure I’ve ever seen one of these, before now.

stickguy

I think I saw one not long ago. very rare.

stickguy

I want to go car shopping. it has been a long time. I am overdue. Really have not done it since early 2020 before we bought the RDX and were looking at options. I bought 2 Mavs since then but I ordered both of those before even seeing one in person.

Heck I buy houses more frequently than cars now.