Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

stickguy

Much easier to find a bright color in a parking lot too!

au1994

I would not kick that color out of the garage either.

kyfdx

That's a pickup color, for sure. I never realized how many blue pickups, until my son got the Tacoma. (Tacoma brighter than that, unfortunately)

nyccarguy

andres3 said:

I TRIED TO make a punch yesterday on a Macan Turbo, my price was 39,000 and they were at 39,999. It's an AutoNation Lexus dealership and they apparently think they are Carmax and won't haggle the price, and they really mean it. I thought for sure they'd cave, but they didn't; apparently the GM loves the car more than they want to sell it. Just a few weeks ago they were like $500 lower but instead of going down to my number they decided that pricing it higher would sell it better; then came back down again but not quite to where they were before.

It did have noticeable minor rashes/light scraping along the bottom on the front and rear of the right side doors (passenger side). Might buff out..... or might be what is left after someone already spent time buffing out scrapes that looked worse before being detailed. Hard to tell. Either way, I'm standing by my number, and so is the dealership.

It's old man beige/gold colored, so a tough sell in 2024. I'm one of the few that doesn't mind it much as it's not white/black/gray/silver, which I'd mind more (with the exception possibly of white). Also, the interior isn't black, and that's a plus in my book.

I'm still a bit shocked they turned down the offer.

$40k For a Macan Turbo? You left out the year and mileage. Post a link to the car so we can take a look at it for you? Is there a maintenance history with it? Can you schedule a PPI with a Porsche Dealer? How does the price compare to other Macan Turbos of similar years, mileage, & condition? What options does it have?

You've done your part. You've expressed a strong interest in buying their car. They don't want to budge on the price today. They have your contact information. If it is priced too high, then maybe their algorithm/sales manager will drop the price $500 - $1,000 in the next couple of weeks. Keep an eye on it. See if you can "watch" the car and get notified about price drops.

I'm going to side with you on the color. While it wouldn't be my 1st choice, I do think the gold color would look sharp with the black trim and red brake calipers on the Macan Turbo. Also the beige/gold probably makes it look like a sleeper. Every base Macan I see is White.

Listen, we all brake your chops a lot because of the heartache your cars give you. You obviously love cars and love driving. I love my Prelude, but don't know if I love it THAT much to drop a new engine into it. Your Audis are getting "up there" for Audis in age and mileage. Maybe it is time to ditch them both and get yourself a Civic Type R. It does everything both of your Audis do. There is A LOT of aftermarket support for it. They are reliable.

Speaking of Civic Type Rs, I saw 1 on my way home last night. Looks like it had some aftermarket wheels and a Carbon Fiber rear spoiler, but I really like the way it looks. Definitely still a Civic Type R, but a bit more mature. It was Championship White which is a great color.

stickguy

I don’t think I could sell my wife on a type R. Probably could sneak an Si into the garage though.

nyccarguy

@tifighter

Speaking of, how's life with your Type R? Mileage update?

corvette

@venture - that scenario fits the stereotypical Altima driver demographic. I will say that, for some people who aren't good with money, they can deal with a car payment as a temporary inconvenience for a few years, then go back to blowing all of their money on whatever they want, but I can't say whether your grandson is one of those people, especially if you are fronting the cash for the car and there isn't a bank that will come pick it up if payments aren't made.

qbrozen

Progres is awaiting pickup at the port. I gotta figure out when I can go.

stickguy

My son stopped sending me links to houses for sale. Now he is sending me links to bmw sports cars for sale. Not sure if they are for him or me.

venture

corvette said:

@venture - that scenario fits the stereotypical Altima driver demographic. I will say that, for some people who aren't good with money, they can deal with a car payment as a temporary inconvenience for a few years, then go back to blowing all of their money on whatever they want, but I can't say whether your grandson is one of those people, especially if you are fronting the cash for the car and there isn't a bank that will come pick it up if payments aren't made.

I don't know if he is one of those people either. Neither is his Mom. Therein lies the problem.

oldfarmer50

Q’s competition in TX.

https://youtu.be/5MaN1XZuqpA?si=Xdiqc5BMpODzslul

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

corvette said:

Here's a link to a recent podcast about car colors and why achromatic colors (black, grey, silver, white) are so popular now. Some interesting statistics, including that achromatic colors comprise 80% of new vehicle sales today, versus 36% fifty years ago.

https://freakonomics.com/podcast/car-colors/

I still like my Cactus Grey Maverick, it was (and is) my favorite of the colors available on the XL trim level at the time.

Shamed to say, I actually had to look up what achromatic meant but I guess as in many things I’m a contrarian. I hate the bland colors available today. I love the bright cherry red that Mazda offers, the teal blue that Honda and Mitsubishi had and even the champagne gold that a few different car manufacturers produced a few years back. I also like the metallic paints over the current plain battleship greys.

It depends on the car too. My sporty cars always had to be some kind of red but for an appliance like my Kia, any old silver grey will do.

I think manufacturers hesitate to get too dramatic with their color choices out of fear that the color’s popularity will wane.

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This is the color (Orange Blast) of Son #1’s 2018 Chevy SS. It does stand out in a crowd. I’m still getting used to it.

https://www.ssforums.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=640,height=640,fit=scale-down//attachments/3q0a6095-jpeg.307260/

jmonroe

roadburner

I normally don't like gray cars, but I do like the Selenite Gray over Cranberry red combination on the C43. For coupes I do prefer a bright color.

mjfloyd1

_ _> @nyccarguy said:

$40k For a Macan Turbo? You left out the year and mileage. Post a link to the car so we can take a look at it for you? Is there a maintenance history with it? Can you schedule a PPI with a Porsche Dealer? How does the price compare to other Macan Turbos of similar years, mileage, & condition? What options does it have?

You've done your part. You've expressed a strong interest in buying their car. They don't want to budge on the price today. They have your contact information. If it is priced too high, then maybe their algorithm/sales manager will drop the price $500 - $1,000 in the next couple of weeks. Keep an eye on it. See if you can "watch" the car and get notified about price drops.

I'm going to side with you on the color. While it wouldn't be my 1st choice, I do think the gold color would look sharp with the black trim and red brake calipers on the Macan Turbo. Also the beige/gold probably makes it look like a sleeper. Every base Macan I see is White.

Listen, we all brake your chops a lot because of the heartache your cars give you. You obviously love cars and love driving. I love my Prelude, but don't know if I love it THAT much to drop a new engine into it. Your Audis are getting "up there" for Audis in age and mileage. Maybe it is time to ditch them both and get yourself a Civic Type R. It does everything both of your Audis do. There is A LOT of aftermarket support for it. They are reliable.

Speaking of Civic Type Rs, I saw 1 on my way home last night. Looks like it had some aftermarket wheels and a Carbon Fiber rear spoiler, but I really like the way it looks. Definitely still a Civic Type R, but a bit more mature. It was Championship White which is a great color.

https://www.cerritoslexus.com/used-vehicles/?_dFR[make][0]=Porsche&_dFR[type][0]=Pre-Owned&_dFR[type][1]=Certified%20Pre-Owned

nyccarguy

mjfloyd1 said:

_ _> @nyccarguy said:

$40k For a Macan Turbo? You left out the year and mileage. Post a link to the car so we can take a look at it for you? Is there a maintenance history with it? Can you schedule a PPI with a Porsche Dealer? How does the price compare to other Macan Turbos of similar years, mileage, & condition? What options does it have?

You've done your part. You've expressed a strong interest in buying their car. They don't want to budge on the price today. They have your contact information. If it is priced too high, then maybe their algorithm/sales manager will drop the price $500 - $1,000 in the next couple of weeks. Keep an eye on it. See if you can "watch" the car and get notified about price drops.

I'm going to side with you on the color. While it wouldn't be my 1st choice, I do think the gold color would look sharp with the black trim and red brake calipers on the Macan Turbo. Also the beige/gold probably makes it look like a sleeper. Every base Macan I see is White.

Listen, we all brake your chops a lot because of the heartache your cars give you. You obviously love cars and love driving. I love my Prelude, but don't know if I love it THAT much to drop a new engine into it. Your Audis are getting "up there" for Audis in age and mileage. Maybe it is time to ditch them both and get yourself a Civic Type R. It does everything both of your Audis do. There is A LOT of aftermarket support for it. They are reliable.

Speaking of Civic Type Rs, I saw 1 on my way home last night. Looks like it had some aftermarket wheels and a Carbon Fiber rear spoiler, but I really like the way it looks. Definitely still a Civic Type R, but a bit more mature. It was Championship White which is a great color.

https://www.cerritoslexus.com/used-vehicles/?_dFR[make][0]=Porsche&_dFR[type][0]=Pre-Owned&_dFR[type][1]=Certified%20Pre-Owned

Is that unlimited mileage warranty transferrable?

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

corvette said:

Here's a link to a recent podcast about car colors and why achromatic colors (black, grey, silver, white) are so popular now. Some interesting statistics, including that achromatic colors comprise 80% of new vehicle sales today, versus 36% fifty years ago.

https://freakonomics.com/podcast/car-colors/

I still like my Cactus Grey Maverick, it was (and is) my favorite of the colors available on the XL trim level at the time.

Shamed to say, I actually had to look up what achromatic meant but I guess as in many things I’m a contrarian. I hate the bland colors available today. I love the bright cherry red that Mazda offers, the teal blue that Honda and Mitsubishi had and even the champagne gold that a few different car manufacturers produced a few years back. I also like the metallic paints over the current plain battleship greys.

It depends on the car too. My sporty cars always had to be some kind of red but for an appliance like my Kia, any old silver grey will do.

I think manufacturers hesitate to get too dramatic with their color choices out of fear that the color’s popularity will wane.

————————————————
This is the color (Orange Blast) of Son #1’s 2018 Chevy SS. It does stand out in a crowd. I’m still getting used to it.

https://www.ssforums.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=640,height=640,fit=scale-down//attachments/3q0a6095-jpeg.307260/

jmonroe

I do like that color.

mjfloyd1

@nyccarguy said:
Is that unlimited mileage warranty transferrable?

Only transfers if bought from owner of CPO Porsche or from Porsche dealer. Won’t transfer because it is being sold by Lexus dealership.

andres3

venture said:

The used car situation for my grandson has taken an odd turn. I wanted to say an ugly turn, but I don't know that it's really ugly; just strange.

He seems to have the same concept of money that his dad had/has. My daughter is re-married so the original moron is not around all that much.

A few weeks ago, I told him that I would give him $1,000 toward the down payment. He said that would really help. The word "really" got my attention, but I let it go.

Now I find out that he has saved "about" a thousand dollars toward a car. After deciding he wanted to get something a year ago! How he thinks he can manage a $400 or $500 a month car payment when he only saved about $85 a month for the last year is anyone's guess. He has a decent job for a 19 year-old so there is really no excuse.

I told him I would buy the car and he could pay me back to save on interest. I'm definitely having second thoughts now.

I discussed the situation with my daughter, and she didn't know that he has only saved around $1,000. We agreed that he is not ready.

The original moron asked me to go with him to look at new cars once. The very first thing he said to the salesman was how much he was paying a month and how much he wants to pay a month going forward. I didn't go with him again. It was hopeless.

Do people not realize that car salesman would put you in a Tata motor car for $10,000/month if that's what you tell them you want to pay per month?

andres3

mjfloyd1 said:

@nyccarguy said:

Is that unlimited mileage warranty transferrable?

Only transfers if bought from owner of CPO Porsche or from Porsche dealer. Won’t transfer because it is being sold by Lexus dealership.

I'm trying to mentally transfer myself to an alternate reality where the Hitachi HPFP didn't blow up my Audi engine. Would I be willing to go up $1K on the Macan ($1.1K with tax, title, license included)? Would I even be looking for a change from the S4? Hard to say.

What I do know is that $39K is a great price on that car and from my extensive test drive I can tell it was a former CPO-capable-worthy-type car. The only other knock besides the light scratches down low on the right side is that it has aggressive all-weather (M&S) tires that looked at least half used up (I'd prefer performance all-seasons). Who takes their Macan off road or in the snow? IF so, they got the right tires. On the bright side they were Michelins so I'm neutral on the tires.

I agree with @nyccarguy , the color does make it a sleeper. It drives a lot like my tuned S4 but with a bit more room, more cargo space, taller sidewalls cushioning the bad roads, and quite a bit more ride height (which is adjustable from normal SUV to sleek SUV).

P.S. I would take the Macan off-road and in the snow, but that's me.

sda

andres3 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

@nyccarguy said:

Is that unlimited mileage warranty transferrable?

Only transfers if bought from owner of CPO Porsche or from Porsche dealer. Won’t transfer because it is being sold by Lexus dealership.

I'm trying to mentally transfer myself to an alternate reality where the Hitachi HPFP didn't blow up my Audi engine. Would I be willing to go up $1K on the Macan ($1.1K with tax, title, license included)? Would I even be looking for a change from the S4? Hard to say.

What I do know is that $39K is a great price on that car and from my extensive test drive I can tell it was a former CPO-capable-worthy-type car. The only other knock besides the light scratches down low on the right side is that it has aggressive all-weather (M&S) tires that looked at least half used up (I'd prefer performance all-seasons). Who takes their Macan off road or in the snow? IF so, they got the right tires. On the bright side they were Michelins so I'm neutral on the tires.

I agree with @nyccarguy , the color does make it a sleeper. It drives a lot like my tuned S4 but with a bit more room, more cargo space, taller sidewalls cushioning the bad roads, and quite a bit more ride height (which is adjustable from normal SUV to sleek SUV).

P.S. I would take the Macan off-road and in the snow, but that's me.

Would you be trading the S4 or TTS?

venture

andres3 said:

venture said:

The used car situation for my grandson has taken an odd turn. I wanted to say an ugly turn, but I don't know that it's really ugly; just strange.

He seems to have the same concept of money that his dad had/has. My daughter is re-married so the original moron is not around all that much.

A few weeks ago, I told him that I would give him $1,000 toward the down payment. He said that would really help. The word "really" got my attention, but I let it go.

Now I find out that he has saved "about" a thousand dollars toward a car. After deciding he wanted to get something a year ago! How he thinks he can manage a $400 or $500 a month car payment when he only saved about $85 a month for the last year is anyone's guess. He has a decent job for a 19 year-old so there is really no excuse.

I told him I would buy the car and he could pay me back to save on interest. I'm definitely having second thoughts now.

I discussed the situation with my daughter, and she didn't know that he has only saved around $1,000. We agreed that he is not ready.

The original moron asked me to go with him to look at new cars once. The very first thing he said to the salesman was how much he was paying a month and how much he wants to pay a month going forward. I didn't go with him again. It was hopeless.

Do people not realize that car salesman would put you in a Tata motor car for $10,000/month if that's what you tell them you want to pay per month?

When I was at my Subaru dealer a few months ago a guy was happy that they got him 84 month financing on a used pickup.

Yeah. They are out there.

28firefighter

As someone once wisely told me here, don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

nyccarguy

A friend of mine drives an E53 AMG. He lives in NJ and commutes into The Bronx every day. He gets his money’s worth out of the wheel & tire insurance.

roadburner

AMG wheels are not cheap. I'm looking at a square set of BBS wheels for the C43 fitted with either Continental or Michelin UHP A/S rubber.

qbrozen

@oldfarmer50 said:
Q’s competition in TX.

https://youtu.be/5MaN1XZuqpA?si=Xdiqc5BMpODzslul

I am definitely no competition for the likes of that place.

And I would have a hard time buying so much. Not from a funding or space perspective, as that can be remedied, but from a quality control standpoint. They are obviously just stuffing containers with everything and dealing with it when it arrives. I’m too concerned with buying nice examples.

corvette

venture said:

When I was at my Subaru dealer a few months ago a guy was happy that they got him 84 month financing on a used pickup.

Yeah. They are out there.

72 months appears to be the sweet spot with PenFed right now (new rates on top, used rates on the bottom):

If memory serves, the rates on my Maverick were 0% for 36 months, 0.9% for 48 months, and 1.9% for 60 months. Pretty sure it was 3.9% for 72 months and 5.9% for 84 months. Very tempting to bump up to 48 or 60 months, pay a very small amount in interest, and lower the monthly nut.

stickguy

I got the 0% on my first maverick. I know they did not have anything special when I got the 2nd one (May 2023), I think it was just market rate options. Not sure what they were since I paid cash for that one.

corvette

This was a section of overpass going through downtown about a week ago. Two out of three lanes closed during the repair. The local news reported that this is the 15th "pothole repair" on this section of interstate since January 2023.

stickguy

at least a container ship did not run into it.

jmonroe1

venture said:

andres3 said:

venture said:

The used car situation for my grandson has taken an odd turn. I wanted to say an ugly turn, but I don't know that it's really ugly; just strange.

He seems to have the same concept of money that his dad had/has. My daughter is re-married so the original moron is not around all that much.

A few weeks ago, I told him that I would give him $1,000 toward the down payment. He said that would really help. The word "really" got my attention, but I let it go.

Now I find out that he has saved "about" a thousand dollars toward a car. After deciding he wanted to get something a year ago! How he thinks he can manage a $400 or $500 a month car payment when he only saved about $85 a month for the last year is anyone's guess. He has a decent job for a 19 year-old so there is really no excuse.

I told him I would buy the car and he could pay me back to save on interest. I'm definitely having second thoughts now.

I discussed the situation with my daughter, and she didn't know that he has only saved around $1,000. We agreed that he is not ready.

The original moron asked me to go with him to look at new cars once. The very first thing he said to the salesman was how much he was paying a month and how much he wants to pay a month going forward. I didn't go with him again. It was hopeless.

Do people not realize that car salesman would put you in a Tata motor car for $10,000/month if that's what you tell them you want to pay per month?

When I was at my Subaru dealer a few months ago a guy was happy that they got him 84 month financing on a used pickup.

Yeah. They are out there.

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In the car biz, P. T. Barnum’s saying about a sucker being born every minute can be changed to…”if we wait long enough, a baby seal will walk through those doors”.

jmonroe

nyccarguy

I saw not 1, but 2 MDX Type S’ this morning. This gorgeous Blue and the tiger eye mustard color that I hated in pictures, but looks better on the sheet metal.

stickguy

I like that blue.

pensfan83

That was our first choice, but the deal for the white one was too good to pass on.

nyccarguy

pensfan83 said:

That was our first choice, but the deal for the white one was too good to pass on.

I happen to like the Type S in white & silver. It even looks handsome in the Black and shades of Grey. The Red is sharp too.

andres3

sda said:

andres3 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

@nyccarguy said:

Is that unlimited mileage warranty transferrable?

Only transfers if bought from owner of CPO Porsche or from Porsche dealer. Won’t transfer because it is being sold by Lexus dealership.

I'm trying to mentally transfer myself to an alternate reality where the Hitachi HPFP didn't blow up my Audi engine. Would I be willing to go up $1K on the Macan ($1.1K with tax, title, license included)? Would I even be looking for a change from the S4? Hard to say.

What I do know is that $39K is a great price on that car and from my extensive test drive I can tell it was a former CPO-capable-worthy-type car. The only other knock besides the light scratches down low on the right side is that it has aggressive all-weather (M&S) tires that looked at least half used up (I'd prefer performance all-seasons). Who takes their Macan off road or in the snow? IF so, they got the right tires. On the bright side they were Michelins so I'm neutral on the tires.

I agree with @nyccarguy , the color does make it a sleeper. It drives a lot like my tuned S4 but with a bit more room, more cargo space, taller sidewalls cushioning the bad roads, and quite a bit more ride height (which is adjustable from normal SUV to sleek SUV).

P.S. I would take the Macan off-road and in the snow, but that's me.

Would you be trading the S4 or TTS?

The S4, but it's worthless as a trade. Would have to be private party to get $23-24K out of it.

In fact, I might bid $20K on a SQ5 since similar to the S4, 7+ year old ones are getting to low dollars. The big question is, when will the car strike for more dollars.

xwesx

With your luck, @andres3 , SOON!

andres3

Oh, one other knock on that Macan Turbo, it has the Chinese windshield glass my S4 does, FAYAO for CHEAP!!!! But who knows if theirs was installed properly. Needs a 100-day rainstorm test.

And who puts Chinese glass on a Macan Turbo with under 50K miles?

stickguy

A used car dealer.

mjfloyd1

andres3 said:

sda said:

andres3 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

@nyccarguy said:

Is that unlimited mileage warranty transferrable?

Only transfers if bought from owner of CPO Porsche or from Porsche dealer. Won’t transfer because it is being sold by Lexus dealership.

I'm trying to mentally transfer myself to an alternate reality where the Hitachi HPFP didn't blow up my Audi engine. Would I be willing to go up $1K on the Macan ($1.1K with tax, title, license included)? Would I even be looking for a change from the S4? Hard to say.

What I do know is that $39K is a great price on that car and from my extensive test drive I can tell it was a former CPO-capable-worthy-type car. The only other knock besides the light scratches down low on the right side is that it has aggressive all-weather (M&S) tires that looked at least half used up (I'd prefer performance all-seasons). Who takes their Macan off road or in the snow? IF so, they got the right tires. On the bright side they were Michelins so I'm neutral on the tires.

I agree with @nyccarguy , the color does make it a sleeper. It drives a lot like my tuned S4 but with a bit more room, more cargo space, taller sidewalls cushioning the bad roads, and quite a bit more ride height (which is adjustable from normal SUV to sleek SUV).

P.S. I would take the Macan off-road and in the snow, but that's me.

Would you be trading the S4 or TTS?

The S4, but it's worthless as a trade. Would have to be private party to get $23-24K out of it.

In fact, I might bid $20K on a SQ5 since similar to the S4, 7+ year old ones are getting to low dollars. The big question is, when will the car strike for more dollars.

What happened to the theory that the S4 would be worth more with this new lower mileage motor?😎

andres3

nyccarguy said:

A friend of mine drives an E53 AMG. He lives in NJ and commutes into The Bronx every day. He gets his money’s worth out of the wheel & tire insurance.

Those P-Zeros get mixed reviews at best. Not that the best tires are indestructible, but my internal calculator says I hear more about problems, blowouts, and other tire issues from people that buy cheaper tires, not that the P-Zeros are cheap.

andres3

mjfloyd1 said:

andres3 said:

sda said:

andres3 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

@nyccarguy said:

Is that unlimited mileage warranty transferrable?

Only transfers if bought from owner of CPO Porsche or from Porsche dealer. Won’t transfer because it is being sold by Lexus dealership.

I'm trying to mentally transfer myself to an alternate reality where the Hitachi HPFP didn't blow up my Audi engine. Would I be willing to go up $1K on the Macan ($1.1K with tax, title, license included)? Would I even be looking for a change from the S4? Hard to say.

What I do know is that $39K is a great price on that car and from my extensive test drive I can tell it was a former CPO-capable-worthy-type car. The only other knock besides the light scratches down low on the right side is that it has aggressive all-weather (M&S) tires that looked at least half used up (I'd prefer performance all-seasons). Who takes their Macan off road or in the snow? IF so, they got the right tires. On the bright side they were Michelins so I'm neutral on the tires.

I agree with @nyccarguy , the color does make it a sleeper. It drives a lot like my tuned S4 but with a bit more room, more cargo space, taller sidewalls cushioning the bad roads, and quite a bit more ride height (which is adjustable from normal SUV to sleek SUV).

P.S. I would take the Macan off-road and in the snow, but that's me.

Would you be trading the S4 or TTS?

The S4, but it's worthless as a trade. Would have to be private party to get $23-24K out of it.

In fact, I might bid $20K on a SQ5 since similar to the S4, 7+ year old ones are getting to low dollars. The big question is, when will the car strike for more dollars.

What happened to the theory that the S4 would be worth more with this new lower mileage motor?😎

It's a reasonable theory, but would be more for the private party crowd. Also, a few so-called "reputable" insurance companies are the ones state that you can't determine the value of something until you actually sell it. Asking prices being inflated and all.

So ultimately the buyer does decide what it's worth. Are you a buyer?

andres3

xwesx said:

With your luck, @andres3 , SOON!

Now now.... even the S4 catastrophe gave me almost 13 months of flawlessness. If I'd have had the best 12 month bumper to bumper warranty money could buy, it would have been worth $0.00 for my problems as they happened after 1 year from purchase.

qbrozen

Wow. The Toyota Progres is a gem. I am so shocked at how luxurious, smooth, and spunky it is. REALLY nice car!

imidazol97

@andres3 said:
Oh, one other knock on that Macan Turbo, it has the Chinese windshield glass my S4 does, FAYAO for CHEAP!!!! But who knows if theirs was installed properly. Needs a 100-day rainstorm test.

And who puts Chinese glass on a Macan Turbo with under 50K miles?

Is that"Fuyao" glass?

They are a supplier of new glass as well. I went by their plant here in Moraine earlier today, in the US.

Fuyaousa.com

andres3

imidazol97 said:

@andres3 said:

Oh, one other knock on that Macan Turbo, it has the Chinese windshield glass my S4 does, FAYAO for CHEAP!!!! But who knows if theirs was installed properly. Needs a 100-day rainstorm test.

And who puts Chinese glass on a Macan Turbo with under 50K miles?

Is that"Fuyao" glass?

They are a supplier of new glass as well. I went by their plant here in Moraine earlier today, in the US.

Fuyaousa.com

That must be it. Chinese company gone global I suppose. I'm not super impressed by the "optical clarity" of the replacement one I have on my S4 (Grade C+, passable, but I'd only use it on a car with over 60,000 miles).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuyao_Group#:~:text=Fuyao Glass Industry Group Co,and is headquartered in Fuqing.

mjfloyd1

andres3 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

andres3 said:

sda said:

andres3 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

@nyccarguy said:

Is that unlimited mileage warranty transferrable?

Only transfers if bought from owner of CPO Porsche or from Porsche dealer. Won’t transfer because it is being sold by Lexus dealership.

I'm trying to mentally transfer myself to an alternate reality where the Hitachi HPFP didn't blow up my Audi engine. Would I be willing to go up $1K on the Macan ($1.1K with tax, title, license included)? Would I even be looking for a change from the S4? Hard to say.

What I do know is that $39K is a great price on that car and from my extensive test drive I can tell it was a former CPO-capable-worthy-type car. The only other knock besides the light scratches down low on the right side is that it has aggressive all-weather (M&S) tires that looked at least half used up (I'd prefer performance all-seasons). Who takes their Macan off road or in the snow? IF so, they got the right tires. On the bright side they were Michelins so I'm neutral on the tires.

I agree with @nyccarguy , the color does make it a sleeper. It drives a lot like my tuned S4 but with a bit more room, more cargo space, taller sidewalls cushioning the bad roads, and quite a bit more ride height (which is adjustable from normal SUV to sleek SUV).

P.S. I would take the Macan off-road and in the snow, but that's me.

Would you be trading the S4 or TTS?

The S4, but it's worthless as a trade. Would have to be private party to get $23-24K out of it.

In fact, I might bid $20K on a SQ5 since similar to the S4, 7+ year old ones are getting to low dollars. The big question is, when will the car strike for more dollars.

What happened to the theory that the S4 would be worth more with this new lower mileage motor?😎

It's a reasonable theory, but would be more for the private party crowd. Also, a few so-called "reputable" insurance companies are the ones state that you can't determine the value of something until you actually sell it. Asking prices being inflated and all.

So ultimately the buyer does decide what it's worth. Are you a buyer?

Absolutely not

mjfloyd1

andres3 said:

imidazol97 said:

@andres3 said:

Oh, one other knock on that Macan Turbo, it has the Chinese windshield glass my S4 does, FAYAO for CHEAP!!!! But who knows if theirs was installed properly. Needs a 100-day rainstorm test.

And who puts Chinese glass on a Macan Turbo with under 50K miles?

Is that"Fuyao" glass?

They are a supplier of new glass as well. I went by their plant here in Moraine earlier today, in the US.

Fuyaousa.com

That must be it. Chinese company gone global I suppose. I'm not super impressed by the "optical clarity" of the replacement one I have on my S4 (Grade C+, passable, but I'd only use it on a car with over 60,000 miles).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuyao_Group#:~:text=Fuyao Glass Industry Group Co,and is headquartered in Fuqing.

Did your S4 come with the aftermarket glass when you bought it?

Michaell

Just saw a blurb that the Maverick Hybrid will be available with AWD for 2025.

stickguy

saw that. Should be very popular. Though the regular hybrid already is.

Michaell

stickguy said:

saw that. Should be very popular. Though the regular hybrid already is.

If I could get the wife on board, I'd be very interested.