Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

2010 Scion xB 5-Speed

Thoughts?

I’d go with the Scion over the Subaru. You might want to look for Subarus for sale in NJ. As I understand it, they aren’t the cult icon over there and you might get a better price.

oldfarmer50

graphicguy said:

And finally, a quick question.

Just had an MRI done. Seems my hip is bone on bone, which explains why it hurts all the time.

Doc said I need a replacement. Any Edmunds friends had this done? Recovery time? How about difficulty with recovery (like time it took to walk again)?

TIA!

A friend at work had both hips done and according to him there are two ways to have the surgery done. The older way took him weeks to recover from but the new way only took a few days. I think he mentioned that the new way comes in from the back of the hip. I’d question the surgeon to see how he does it before committing.

mjfloyd1

“New” total hip is anterior (from the front) but it is very dependent on body habitus as to whether it can be done that way - it’s more difficult with obese patients and those with a large abdominal pannus . It is initially less painful but no difference after a week or two.

I’ve seen some do anterior hip from the side as well which is more anterior than the traditional total hip replacement.

When you get the replacement is dependent on your pain and amount of disability due to pain. I’ve done total hips on people in their thirties with aseptic necrosis and great pain and disability.

jmonroe1

OK guys here’s one for you. Maybe @mjfloyd1 or @carnaught might know the best answer.

Probably sooner than later I’ll need to do something about my aging knees. I do everything I always did but much slower. Not all that painful but maybe I’m just used to it by now. So, does anyone know anything about Cell therapy and PRP therapy. One of the down sides of this is that neither Medicare or my supplement policy covers it so the cost comes entirely out of my pocket. Probably over 15 grand for 2 knees. That doesn’t really bother me as long as it works since it’s a much less invasive process and a more natural way to correct a knee problem. Fire away.

jmonroe

mjfloyd1

@jmonroe1 said:
OK guys here’s one for you. Maybe @mjfloyd1 or @carnaught might know the best answer.

Probably sooner than later I’ll need to do something about my aging knees. I do everything I always did but much slower. Not all that painful but maybe I’m just used to it by now. So, does anyone know anything about Cell therapy and PRP therapy. One of the down sides of this is that neither Medicare or my supplement policy covers it so the cost comes entirely out of my pocket. Probably over 15 grand for 2 knees. That doesn’t really bother me as long as it works since it’s a much less invasive process and a more natural way to correct a knee problem. Fire away.

jmonroe

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9897683/

corvette

Hyundai Motor Group hits double-digit EV market share in the US, and this is just the start

roadburner

I've mentioned this before, but back in 2013 I test drove a new Lincoln MKS ( in order to get a $50 gift card and because the dealer was making a donation to Food for the Poor for every test drive).The sales guy was eager to show off the "new" voice recognition system; he said, "Tune to FM station ninety-seven point five." The Lincoln replied, "Now tuning to gay radio station." My son and I couldn't stop laughing, my wife shook her head, and the sales guy just turned beet red and said not a word for the rest of the drive.

cdnpinhead

mjfloyd1 said:

rel="nofollow">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9897683/

It's very helpful to have you as a resource. Thank you.

oldfarmer50

corvette said:

Hyundai Motor Group hits double-digit EV market share in the US, and this is just the start

I drove a Hyundai G70 yesterday and at 55k miles it was pretty beat. I hope the everyday Hyundais hold up better than this one did. It was being sent for a recall on the turbo.

nyccarguy

What kind of license plate is this:

nyccarguy

@mjfloyd1 said:
“New” total hip is anterior (from the front) but it is very dependent on body habitus as to whether it can be done that way - it’s more difficult with obese patients and those with a large abdominal pannus . It is initially less painful but no difference after a week or two.

I’ve seen some do anterior hip from the side as well which is more anterior than the traditional total hip replacement.

When you get the replacement is dependent on your pain and amount of disability due to pain. I’ve done total hips on people in their thirties with aseptic necrosis and great pain and disability.

3 years ago my wife had surgery for a torn labrum in her left hip.

xwesx

nyccarguy said:

What kind of license plate is this:

From what I understand, AFI stands for "Armed Forces Italy," while the N denotes the station, "Napoli."

nyccarguy

@xwesx said:
That's all great, but the more pressing question is this: How did your basement hold up with the downpours? Is the work from a few years ago doing its job well?

Thankfully the basement stayed dry. I was worried. It just kept raining hard. The creek behind my house crested and the water came about half way up the back yard. Thankfully no damage to my property . Many towns north and west of me didn’t fair so well. Roads literally buckled .

xwesx

nyccarguy said:

Thankfully the basement stayed dry. I was worried. It just kept raining hard. The creek behind my house crested and the water came about half way up the back yard. Thankfully no damage to my property . Many towns north and west of me didn’t fair so well. Roads literally buckled .

Congrats! That's great news!

I am thrilled with how dry the basement at our Conneaut house is staying now with just the minor stuff we've done (so far), but it isn't at the "stayed dry during a minor flooding event" stage yet. Of course, I havne't put the amount of money into it that you did, either.... but I'm getting there! /facepalm

nyccarguy

@xwesx said:
I'm surprised that it is being sold by a Subaru dealer, yet doesn't seem to have received much R&R care there. It's a limited, which is good for equipment and leather seats, etc., so they should clean up nicely with the care they should have already received from the dealer. The photos are awful (kudos, Subaru dealer!), which is not confidence-inspiring, but the miles are such that it should have received a new timing belt by now. I'd look closely for head gasket leaks (both internal and external), and for the condition of the transmission fluid (there's a dipstick on these!). Ad says new tires, but I only believe that if they put them on after the photos were taken!

The door seals on the rear doors look to be sagging, which often means those rear doors were used a lot (such as kids in/out, dogs, etc.) but also means that whomever had the car wasn't particularly meticulous about making sure everything was in good order. I'd think you should be able to knock at least a grand off that price, and more if you are looking at righting any wrongs.

This dealer has cars they recondition and sell, then they have cars with higher mileage that they “wholesale to the public.” This is I believe the category this particular Forester falls in. It even says that the cars are sold as is and we encourage you to get them inspected by a professional mechanic. I was more inquiring if you thought this particular generation is good. Which I think you own 1 or 2, so that’s a good sign.

jmonroe1

nyccarguy said:

@xwesx said:

That's all great, but the more pressing question is this: How did your basement hold up with the downpours? Is the work from a few years ago doing its job well?

Thankfully the basement stayed dry. I was worried. It just kept raining hard. The creek behind my house crested and the water came about half way up the back yard. Thankfully no damage to my property . Many towns north and west of me didn’t fair so well. Roads literally buckled .

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That was a close call.

BTW, do you need a fishing license to fish on your own property in Connecticut?

jmonroe

jmonroe1

xwesx said:

nyccarguy said:

What kind of license plate is this:

From what I understand, AFI stands for "Armed Forces Italy," while the N denotes the station, "Napoli."

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I thought it was shorthand for “no pepperoni”.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

xwesx said:

nyccarguy said:

What kind of license plate is this:

From what I understand, AFI stands for "Armed Forces Italy," while the N denotes the station, "Napoli."

That’s interesting. The Italian AirForce was involved it some air show up in Newburgh at Stewart. We had to stage a bunch of cars there for the use of various show big wigs. I read that some of the Italian pilots did make their way down to the NYC area.

carnaught

mjfloyd1 said:

@jmonroe1 said:

OK guys here’s one for you. Maybe @mjfloyd1 or @carnaught might know the best answer.

Probably sooner than later I’ll need to do something about my aging knees. I do everything I always did but much slower. Not all that painful but maybe I’m just used to it by now. So, does anyone know anything about Cell therapy and PRP therapy. One of the down sides of this is that neither Medicare or my supplement policy covers it so the cost comes entirely out of my pocket. Probably over 15 grand for 2 knees. That doesn’t really bother me as long as it works since it’s a much less invasive process and a more natural way to correct a knee problem. Fire away.

jmonroe

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9897683/

The link that @mjfloyd1 provided shows that the non-invasive approach is not any more effective than placebo unfortunately. The “newer” is the anterior approach total hip replacement, The patient is essentially flat on their back on a “Hana” table vs lying on one’s side with replacement side up. The anterior has the advantage that it is done under surgical x-ray guidance for the hip “cup” area (acetabulum) to verify the fit and the appropriate size of the prosthetic cup that the patient receives during the surgery. Other advantages of the anterior approach, as opposed to the classic more posterior approach, are a seemingly quicker recovery, higher patient satisfaction rate and less post-op pain according to the Ortho’s I’ve worked with.

Ask for knees, the techniques and products have changed and progressed and the robotic methods used by some for making the bone cuts are tailor made for the patient based on trackers used for computerized settings to make the cuts done at the time of surgery. Anecdotally the patient’s results and satisfaction seem better with this method although the non-robotic total knee replacements are also an excellent procedure. This is more in depth: https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2024-05-10/the-pros-cons-of-robotic-knee-replacement-surgery.

Obviously, results vary depending on the individual surgeons and patients, so your result may vary
(don’t try this at home).

ab348

I was on for a knee replacement last year but with all of my heart issues I had another consult with my ortho guy, who I think is really good. He introduced the robotic technique talked about above in this area so he knows his stuff. We had a good discussion around how things could go sideways. The big issue is that even though they almost always do knee replacements using nerve blocks or something other than general anaesthetic, he did say there was some small chance if things unexpectedly happened that it might be necessary. My cardiologist has told me GA is very risky for me right now. So for the moment everything is on hold.

As an alternative he suggested the hyaluronic acid injection (Synvisc) that was mentioned in the journal article linked above. For me it did wonders for 2 months, at which point it was as if it was a switch had been flipped and I was back in pain. It was interesting to me that Tylenol/acetaminophen seemed to have no benefit at all. But Aleve/naproxen has made a big difference in day to day activity. I have not seen any cardiac side effects so far. I see my cardiologist in another month so it will be an interesting discussion.

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

@xwesx said:

That's all great, but the more pressing question is this: How did your basement hold up with the downpours? Is the work from a few years ago doing its job well?

Thankfully the basement stayed dry. I was worried. It just kept raining hard. The creek behind my house crested and the water came about half way up the back yard. Thankfully no damage to my property . Many towns north and west of me didn’t fair so well. Roads literally buckled .

I’m surprised that they let you build that close to a wetland. Did you face any restrictions when you built your house?

nyccarguy

@oldfarmer50 - OMG yes! My issues with the wetlands started even before I bought my house in 2010. It was built in 1955 and the previous owner purchased it in 1985. He was having issues with the original septic system. It was just 3 people (husband, wife, & teenage daughter) and they were having it pumped every 3 months. Time came to sell and he realized he was going to have to replace it. I think he tried to have it done on the down low and got caught. The city made him hire an architect and have plans drawn up to be approved by the city. The city kept changing the building code every time he went for an approval. New code, new plans had to be drawn up. Then finally they said, ok. We're going to approve your plans, but since you are the corner house we are going to make you build a hook up for us just in case we decide to bring the city sewers down that way. The city sewers still aren't here 14 years later. After everything got approved, the city came by to inspect and give the final sign off and Certificate of Occupancy. They walk on the property and look at the plans and notice the "doll house/shed" isn't on the plans. Then he had to have new plans drawn up for the "doll house/shed." Since the "doll house/shed" was too close to the wetlands, the city made him move it 6 inches toward the driveway.

A few years ago when I had my deck built, the contractor submitted plans, and had a land survey done. The contractor staked out the outline of the deck and called for an inspection. Now the city doesn't want you building less than 50 feet from the wetlands with a variance. They don't tell you what the variance is. Looking at my house from the back yard, the right corner of the deck would have been 6 inches from the 50 foot line. Since the property isn't straight, most of the deck would have been far off the 50 foot line. The inspector said he wasn't happy with the right corner being so close to the 50 foot mark. My contractor said to me, either make him happy by making the deck one foot shorter or we can see if we can get away with cutting the corners at a 45 degree angle. I ended up making the deck 1 foot shorter.

I don't know how much longer I'm going to be in my house. Could be another 5-10 years. Could be for the rest of my life. I learned a very expensive lesson by purchasing this house at the bottom of 2 hills with a creek in the back yard.

xwesx

nyccarguy said:

This dealer has cars they recondition and sell, then they have cars with higher mileage that they “wholesale to the public.” This is I believe the category this particular Forester falls in. It even says that the cars are sold as is and we encourage you to get them inspected by a professional mechanic. I was more inquiring if you thought this particular generation is good. Which I think you own 1 or 2, so that’s a good sign.

Yes! This generation is the best, IMO. Looks great, strong reliability, 4EAT is a fabulous transmission (really only needs the occasional fluid change), and can last a long, long time.

mjfloyd1

@carnaught said:
The link that @mjfloyd1 provided shows that the non-invasive approach is not any more effective than placebo unfortunately. The “newer” is the anterior approach total hip replacement, The patient is essentially flat on their back on a “Hana” table vs lying on one’s side with replacement side up. The anterior has the advantage that it is done under surgical x-ray guidance for the hip “cup” area (acetabulum) to verify the fit and the appropriate size of the prosthetic cup that the patient receives during the surgery. Other advantages of the anterior approach, as opposed to the classic more posterior approach, are a seemingly quicker recovery, higher patient satisfaction rate and less post-op pain according to the Ortho’s I’ve worked with.

Ask for knees, the techniques and products have changed and progressed and the robotic methods used by some for making the bone cuts are tailor made for the patient based on trackers used for computerized settings to make the cuts done at the time of surgery. Anecdotally the patient’s results and satisfaction seem better with this method although the non-robotic total knee replacements are also an excellent procedure. This is more in depth: https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2024-05-10/the-pros-cons-of-robotic-knee-replacement-surgery.

Obviously, results vary depending on the individual surgeons and patients, so your result may vary
(don’t try this at home).

One surgeon that I work with does the anterior hip replacement with the patient in the lateral decubitus position. It is more of an anterior approach than the traditional approach. I’ve always had surgeons use x ray no matter if anterior, anterior from lateral decubitus position or traditional more posterior approach.

Pts report less pain for the first week or so with anterior approach and then there is no difference. Almost everyone now requests an anterior approach.

Robotic vs non robotic is surgeons choice and it is probably 50/50 here.

@ab348 - I do always need to have safe backup plans. Sometimes things go sideways and you have to be ready to quickly change plans. Sometimes plan B doesn’t work out and that’s when plan C is next up.

jmonroe1

nyccarguy said:

@oldfarmer50 - OMG yes! My issues with the wetlands started even before I bought my house in 2010. It was built in 1955 and the previous owner purchased it in 1985. He was having issues with the original septic system. It was just 3 people (husband, wife, & teenage daughter) and they were having it pumped every 3 months. Time came to sell and he realized he was going to have to replace it. I think he tried to have it done on the down low and got caught. The city made him hire an architect and have plans drawn up to be approved by the city. The city kept changing the building code every time he went for an approval. New code, new plans had to be drawn up. Then finally they said, ok. We're going to approve your plans, but since you are the corner house we are going to make you build a hook up for us just in case we decide to bring the city sewers down that way. The city sewers still aren't here 14 years later. After everything got approved, the city came by to inspect and give the final sign off and Certificate of Occupancy. They walk on the property and look at the plans and notice the "doll house/shed" isn't on the plans. Then he had to have new plans drawn up for the "doll house/shed." Since the "doll house/shed" was too close to the wetlands, the city made him move it 6 inches toward the driveway.

A few years ago when I had my deck built, the contractor submitted plans, and had a land survey done. The contractor staked out the outline of the deck and called for an inspection. Now the city doesn't want you building less than 50 feet from the wetlands with a variance. They don't tell you what the variance is. Looking at my house from the back yard, the right corner of the deck would have been 6 inches from the 50 foot line. Since the property isn't straight, most of the deck would have been far off the 50 foot line. The inspector said he wasn't happy with the right corner being so close to the 50 foot mark. My contractor said to me, either make him happy by making the deck one foot shorter or we can see if we can get away with cutting the corners at a 45 degree angle. I ended up making the deck 1 foot shorter.

I don't know how much longer I'm going to be in my house. Could be another 5-10 years. Could be for the rest of my life. I learned a very expensive lesson by purchasing this house at the bottom of 2 hills with a creek in the back yard.

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Inspectors can be a real PITA. On one of the flips we did the county plumbing inspector failed the water heater temp because it was about 2 degrees higher than the max temp of 120 degrees.

I don’t understand why if you’re 6 inches within the 50 foot building limit, they didn’t pass your deck building permit. Limits are established for a reason. You’re either within the limit or you aren’t. Of course it would be nice if you were 6 feet away but you don’t have to be nice, you just have to be within spec.

jmonroe

suydam

Had a lot of family and visitors this week and was pleased that both new cars made it easier to get everyone and their gear where we wanted to go — including our 2 year old grandchild and all the stuff they bring with them for her, and then one person with a badly broken leg. The Kia is a compact SUV but even it wasn’t too tight. The Blazer is especially nice to have for roominess and comfort, and yet it doesn’t drive like a big car.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:

@oldfarmer50 - OMG yes! My issues with the wetlands started even before I bought my house in 2010. It was built in 1955 and the previous owner purchased it in 1985. He was having issues with the original septic system. It was just 3 people (husband, wife, & teenage daughter) and they were having it pumped every 3 months. Time came to sell and he realized he was going to have to replace it. I think he tried to have it done on the down low and got caught. The city made him hire an architect and have plans drawn up to be approved by the city. The city kept changing the building code every time he went for an approval. New code, new plans had to be drawn up. Then finally they said, ok. We're going to approve your plans, but since you are the corner house we are going to make you build a hook up for us just in case we decide to bring the city sewers down that way. The city sewers still aren't here 14 years later. After everything got approved, the city came by to inspect and give the final sign off and Certificate of Occupancy. They walk on the property and look at the plans and notice the "doll house/shed" isn't on the plans. Then he had to have new plans drawn up for the "doll house/shed." Since the "doll house/shed" was too close to the wetlands, the city made him move it 6 inches toward the driveway.

A few years ago when I had my deck built, the contractor submitted plans, and had a land survey done. The contractor staked out the outline of the deck and called for an inspection. Now the city doesn't want you building less than 50 feet from the wetlands with a variance. They don't tell you what the variance is. Looking at my house from the back yard, the right corner of the deck would have been 6 inches from the 50 foot line. Since the property isn't straight, most of the deck would have been far off the 50 foot line. The inspector said he wasn't happy with the right corner being so close to the 50 foot mark. My contractor said to me, either make him happy by making the deck one foot shorter or we can see if we can get away with cutting the corners at a 45 degree angle. I ended up making the deck 1 foot shorter.

I don't know how much longer I'm going to be in my house. Could be another 5-10 years. Could be for the rest of my life. I learned a very expensive lesson by purchasing this house at the bottom of 2 hills with a creek in the back yard.

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Inspectors can be a real PITA. On one of the flips we did the county plumbing inspector failed the water heater temp because it was about 2 degrees higher than the max temp of 120 degrees.

I don’t understand why if you’re 6 inches within the 50 foot building limit, they didn’t pass your deck building permit. Limits are established for a reason. You’re either within the limit or you aren’t. Of course it would be nice if you were 6 feet away but you don’t have to be nice, you just have to be within spec.

jmonroe

Don’t get me started on my card table full of tomatoes story.😓😓😓

corvette

ab348 said:

It was interesting to me that Tylenol/acetaminophen seemed to have no benefit at all. But Aleve/naproxen has made a big difference in day to day activity.

Tylenol hasn't been effective for me since I was a small child. Aspirin is my go-to for headaches and any other aches, unless I'm told otherwise.

corvette

jmonroe1 said:

On one of the flips we did the county plumbing inspector failed the water heater temp because it was about 2 degrees higher than the max temp of 120 degrees.

Of the two houses I've bought, both had the WH temp cranked up to the maximum of 150 degrees, resulting in scalding hot water coming out of the taps. The first one appeared to be that way for no reason at all. My current house has a 50 gallon electric tank, and I discovered as soon as I tried to take my first shower there that whomever installed it had reversed the input and output connections, drawing "hot" water from the dip tube at the bottom, and introducing cold water at the top, so you only got a few gallons of "hot" water from the bottom of the tank. I can't imagine how they lived with that for years, based on the age of the WH. I had to have a plumber out anyway to fix a few minor things, and that was one of them. I was able to reduce the temp to a more reasonable level. It's been fine ever since. I feel like some people wonder why elements burn out and their tanks leak after a few years, when they're trying to keep a pressurized vessel of near-boiling water indoors.

nyccarguy

Here’s a ‘12 Forester X Premium with only 45K miles listed for just under $12K.

https://www.biancoautosales.com/vdp/21550932/Used-2012-Subaru-Forester-25X-Premium-for-sale-in-Stamford-CT-06902

They also have a ‘10 with a hit on the car fax from ‘22. 119K miles and an extensive service record.

https://www.biancoautosales.com/vdp/21486113/Used-2010-Subaru-Forester-25X-Premium-for-sale-in-Stamford-CT-06902

And ‘06 Outback XT with 106K miles

https://www.biancoautosales.com/vdp/21505388/Used-2006-Subaru-Outback-25XT-Limited-Wagon-for-sale-in-Stamford-CT-06902

stickguy

I would probably pay the premium for the low miles 12. And avoid the old turbo at all costs.

oldfarmer50

I would

nyccarguy said:

Here’s a ‘12 Forester X Premium with only 45K miles listed for just under $12K.

https://www.biancoautosales.com/vdp/21550932/Used-2012-Subaru-Forester-25X-Premium-for-sale-in-Stamford-CT-06902

They also have a ‘10 with a hit on the car fax from ‘22. 119K miles and an extensive service record.

https://www.biancoautosales.com/vdp/21486113/Used-2010-Subaru-Forester-25X-Premium-for-sale-in-Stamford-CT-06902

And ‘06 Outback XT with 106K miles

https://www.biancoautosales.com/vdp/21505388/Used-2006-Subaru-Outback-25XT-Limited-Wagon-for-sale-in-Stamford-CT-06902

I would also take the low mile 2012 but I’m a sucker for low miles. Also one advantage of a newer model is the more current tech (if that’s important to you). I didn’t buy my kid’s 2010 Fusion for that but he was very happy to find it had the Ford’s Sync system which his older cars didn’t.

au1994

I'd take the low mile '12 as well. Never good for hoses, seals, belts etc to sit for long periods of time but I just prefer the peace of mind of lower miles. Those items are easily and cheaply replaced vs some of the items that begin to have needs at 100k+.

nyccarguy

stickguy said:

I would probably pay the premium for the low miles 12. And avoid the old turbo at all costs.

You used to be fun

stickguy

I followed that up with for the kid. And by extension your wallet.

breld

Pricing for the upcoming VW ID Buzz came out, and it's in the low $70k's for an upper trim AWD model.

Like many other EVs that have been promoted over the last few years that are just now getting released, I can't imagine the reception will be that strong at that pricing, especially with a range of about 230 miles.

au1994

breld said:

Pricing for the upcoming VW ID Buzz came out, and it's in the low $70k's for an upper trim AWD model.

Like many other EVs that have been promoted over the last few years that are just now getting released, I can't imagine the reception will be that strong at that pricing, especially with a range of about 230 miles.

Umm no...

tjc78

230 is far too low.

I think something like our Benz with 300 is the bare minimum

suydam

Definite no. Agree that 230 mi. range is not that great.

explorerx4

Especially if you apply that 80/20 rule.

sda

No wonder VW needs Rivian.

corvette

I had to laugh react, because that is ridiculous. Approaching Model X territory for something far less capable in terms of pretty much everything other than cargo hauling ability. Plus the thought of dealing with VW's crummy dealer network on a $70k+ vehicle makes my stomach turn. Remember the Phaeton? Count me as no longer interested.

I do wonder whether they deliberately overshot on the price, reading the tea leaves from other new EV introductions that they will have to cut the price significantly during the second model year, if not sooner.

graphicguy

Thanks all for the input. I've been "futzing" around with the hip thing for a couple of years. It hurts..always. But, I've been carrying on with my gimpy gate. Surgeon told me last year to let him know when to schedule as it's up to my pain tolerance level, as it's "bone on bone" at this juncture.

Also have a torn abductor which he says they'll repair at the same time.

I kept putting it off. I guess I'm either becoming more of a whiny weener or it's become worse over time (probably a little bit of both), that I've finally given the "go ahead" to get it done.

I think I'm looking like a month out before they can get it scheduled as I guess it's going to take more than a couple of hours to do the surgery to repair both.

But, soldier on we must.

Went to look at a Blazer EV again yesterday. Actually a pretty sharp style....low (for an SUV) and swoopy. Dealer is going to put together numbers on an RS AWD model.

The Honda dealer came back with this deal on a Prologue....little more equipment than the Blazer EV (namely Car Play, sunroof and Bose) but the rest is still the same at the Blazer EV

36 mo/10K lease...no out of pocket.....

graphicguy

BTW....the $20 swing in the monthly payment is because I wouldn't give him permission to run a crest check (last I looked I was in the mid-800s, so should be fine and get the lower amount.

kyfdx

graphicguy said:

BTW....the $20 swing in the monthly payment is because I wouldn't give him permission to run a crest check (last I looked I was in the mid-800s, so should be fine and get the lower amount.

That seems like good value, relative to MSRP

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

230 is far too low.

I think something like our Benz with 300 is the bare minimum

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I’m not in the market/mood for any EV right now but before I jump, the real world mileage will have to be 325 minimum without the risk of buying an inferno that I park in my garage.

jmonroe

suydam

If you get the 2024 2LT, it has all the same equipment packages as the RS, minus heads up display, and 19” tires instead of 21”. AND you get a sunroof. All about what matters to you.

tifighter

@breld said:
Pricing for the upcoming VW ID Buzz came out, and it's in the low $70k's for an upper trim AWD model.

Like many other EVs that have been promoted over the last few years that are just now getting released, I can't imagine the reception will be that strong at that pricing, especially with a range of about 230 miles.

It gets better - the initial production will be CCS and not NACS. So you get the joy of using EA for all of that recharging it’s going to need. At least VW dealers are easy to work with.

oldfarmer50

suydam said:

Definite no. Agree that 230 mi. range is not that great.

Even the Hyundai Kona EV has a range of 260.

ab348

I recently watched a side by side review by Alex on Autos of the Blazer EV and the VW ID4 which was a vehicle I had never heard of previously:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22abI75vCOw&pp=ygUTdncgaWQ0IGNoZXZ5IGJsYXplcg%3D%3D

Alex seemed to like the VW better and they seem like quite different vehicles.