Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

roadburner

corvette said:

Well, the Ariya made a liar out of me... it does have auto high beams, but they aren't turned on by default. There's a button on the end of the stalk you're supposed to press to turn them on. I'm not sure whether the setting will persist when it's powered off.

Also, the charger it came with has a very short cord between the wall outlet and box, so I was using a short appliance extension cord to allow the box to sit on the floor of the garage. I noticed the extension cord was getting very hot, so I switched to a heavier (but longer) outdoor extension cord. That one was longer than I needed, and was getting warm (but not as hot as the appliance cord). I ordered a short 10/3 three prong extension from Amazon, which looks almost as thick as a garden hose, and am pleased to report it doesn't get warm at all.

I bought this one at Lowe's; $21.98:

imidazol97

roadburner said:

You can charge 3 plugin vehicles with that one!

jmonroe1

imidazol97 said:

roadburner said:

You can charge 3 plugin vehicles with that one!

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Once.

jmonroe

breld

tifighter said:

@breld said:

Glad your recovery is going well @qbrozen.

I’m starting to feel the pull toward that used Merlin Purple Audi e-tron GT. That it is loaded with all the packages (prestige, performance, leather, etc) and an exclusive color and cool unique interior color are strong draws for me.


And…they just reduced the price by a whole $1k! What is one to do?

The day is over and this car is still up on the dealer website.

Disappointed.

I actually called to make an appointment to see the car and was told it wouldn’t be available for at least a couple weeks due to some insurance claim issue.

The salesperson wasn’t sure but thinks there was some incident within the parking lot or during a test drive. She’ll let me know when it’s available to look at, but obviously I no longer have any interest in this particular one.

So I tried!

corvette

I took day trips yesterday and today and had three DCFC experiences. None were without hiccups:
1. EA charger on the south side of Indianapolis. Wouldn't let me tap to pay with the EA app. I charged as a guest using my credit card. No idea how much it cost, since I didn't get a receipt and my card just has a $50 preauthorization.
2. EV Connect charger in Seymour, Indiana. Gave me an error "authenticate with the app to stop charging" when I tried to stop. Just like the EV Connect charger in Corydon, Indiana. I hit the emergency stop and it let me disconnect. $19.37 for 37.49 kWh.
3. EA charger near my house. This one was helpful in that it told me the tap to pay with the EA app function wasn't working, but that I could manually start the charge with the EA app. That part worked flawlessly. For some reason, EA thinks I still have an active Pass Plus subscription, even though I cancelled effective August 7. This one was a steal - $0.33 per minute. I got 38.8 kWh over 26 minutes for $9.13. I'll definitely stop here again if I get home with a low charge and plan to drive the Ariya the next day. If I charge to about 80%, the level 1 charger will get it near 100% overnight.

suydam

Ive been charging at the EA stations near my house until i can get the 240v installed in my garage. Its been a mixed bag, mainly because the screen instructions arent very intuitive. The stations all work pretty well. I’d say 95% of my fellow chargers are nice, but a few have been real jerks.
I think gas station manners have been pretty established, charging manners are still being worked out.

ab348

imidazol97 said:

roadburner said:

You can charge 3 plugin vehicles with that one!

I’ve got one of those that I bought to use with my emergency generator. Lets me run the feed from the generator indoors and then split it off inside.

greg1288

My math might be off but I roughly figured 38KWH will get somewhere between 70 to 150 miles in an EV depending on efficiency according to some quick research. Based on what you paid on your 2 charging events that would result in a per mile cost of between $ .06 per mile to over $.10 for the $9.13 charge and double the cost per mile for the $19.37 charge or $.12 to over $.20 per mile.
An ICE vehicle going 150 miles and achieving 25MPG which is comparable to the distance traveled on 40KWH in an efficient EV would use 6 gallons of gas. At $3.50 per gallon that would be $21 or $.21 per mile.

If the ICE vehicle is a hybrid approaching 50MPG the cost per mile would be around $.10 per mile. Unless the cost of electricity is much less while charging at home I don't see the cost advantage in EVs. Like I said unless I am missing something or my math is off I am open to be proven wrong.

corvette

@greg1288 - I don't think your math is off, but most EV charging is done at home, where the cost of electricity is much less than a DC fast charger. You pay for the convenience with those. And, if you start a day trip with a full battery (charged at home), spend a little time and $$$ fast charging, and return home with a fairly low charge, you still come out ahead, because most of your charging was done at home. On longer trips, if you can stay at a hotel that offers free Level 2 charging, you can start the next day with a full charge.

suydam

Cost is much less charging at home. Also gas costs depend on your state. We haven’t seen gas at $3.50 in California in a long time. I’ve never paid anywhere near as much to charge as it used to cost when I had a ICE vehicle. Still, charging cost is only one part of owning an EV. Maintenance is generally lower. Even setting environmental benefits aside (and I don’t want to get into those issues here) I personally think they are better cars.

oldfarmer50

In my area electricity is going for about $.25/ kWh with a planned increase of 20% thanks to green energy mandates so shortly to be $.30/kWh. Predictions are that costs will rise another 30% as cheaper fossil fuel power plants are decommissioned.

How much would it cost to charge your cars @ $.375/ kWh.?

That’s one of the things I would have to know before going to an EV.

suydam

oldfarmer50 said:

In my area electricity is going for about $.25/ kWh with a planned increase of 20% thanks to green energy mandates so shortly to be $.30/kWh. Predictions are that costs will rise another 30% as cheaper fossil fuel power plants are decommissioned.

How much would it cost to charge your cars @ $.375/ kWh.?

That’s one of the things I would have to know before going to an EV.

At .375, 70kwh would be $26.25. In my area it’s .25, which would be $17.50. Real world, my charges so far have been between 50-60 kwh. Definitely getting pretty good range.
Here's a pretty good review from Alex on Autos.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MEw_PsEL7Ag&pp=ygUdQWxleCBvbiBhdXRvcyBjaGV2eSBibGF6ZXIgZXY%3D

explorerx4

@suydam,
What's pretty good range?
I drove my Explorer ST from Madison, WI to Cleveland, OH in 6 1/2 hours, 466 miles, didn't stop to fuel up.
Learned that dropping the cruise from 77 to 75 adds a lot to your range.

suydam

There are EVs that get long range, but we are happy with the Blazer’s 280+. We wouldn’t drive that long without stopping anyway. We’ve learned that for us a road trip is way less stressful that way. And we are both retired. We’re not in a hurry.

kyfdx

My wife can't make it longer than 3 - 3.5 hours... So, 225-250 miles is all we're going to go, at any rate. Of course, depending on meals, etc... that might only be a 10 minute stop, so not conducive to charging.

jmonroe1

explorerx4 said:

@suydam,
What's pretty good range?
I drove my Explorer ST from Madison, WI to Cleveland, OH in 6 1/2 hours, 466 miles, didn't stop to fuel up.
Learned that dropping the cruise from 77 to 75 adds a lot to your range.

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We have a poster buddy who hangs out in a court room who would fall asleep doing that.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

kyfdx said:

My wife can't make it longer than 3 - 3.5 hours... So, 225-250 miles is all we're going to go, at any rate. Of course, depending on meals, etc... that might only be a 10 minute stop, so not conducive to charging.

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But that’s plenty of time for a full fill up at a gas station.

jmonroe

explorerx4

@jmonroe1,
I don't have the "Get out of Jail Free' card, so it's not easy.

graphicguy

Been a LONNNNNGGGG time since I've seen the 'ole Four Square sheet.

jmonroe1

graphicguy said:

Been a LONNNNNGGGG time since I've seen the 'ole Four Square sheet.

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What’s old is new again.

We’re into a new age group of car buyers today even with the internet at play. The old guys don’t buy as many cars anymore and if it doesn’t work they’ll stop using it. As much as we laugh, I’d like to have a dime for every car that was sold using the 4 Square method.

jmonroe

roadburner

explorerx4 said:

@jmonroe1,
I don't have the "Get out of Jail Free' card, so it's not easy.

I haven't been pulled over since 2014 at the latest.

andres3

roadburner said:

explorerx4 said:

@jmonroe1,
I don't have the "Get out of Jail Free' card, so it's not easy.

I haven't been pulled over since 2014 at the latest.

I haven't had head gaskets fail since I owned a Neon in the 90's.

cdnpinhead

I can't begin to list the things I did once but don't any more, but it is legion.

You're welcome.

mjfloyd1

@breld said:
I actually called to make an appointment to see the car and was told it wouldn’t be available for at least a couple weeks due to some insurance claim issue.

The salesperson wasn’t sure but thinks there was some incident within the parking lot or during a test drive. She’ll let me know when it’s available to look at, but obviously I no longer have any interest in this particular one.

So I tried!

I’m just not sure that the words purple, Audi, BEV and buy go in the same sentence 😎

suydam

mjfloyd1 said:

@breld said:

I actually called to make an appointment to see the car and was told it wouldn’t be available for at least a couple weeks due to some insurance claim issue.

The salesperson wasn’t sure but thinks there was some incident within the parking lot or during a test drive. She’ll let me know when it’s available to look at, but obviously I no longer have any interest in this particular one.

So I tried!

I’m just not sure that the words purple, Audi, BEV and buy go in the same sentence 😎

Is it like the Blazer EV color that looks grey in some lights and purple in others?

nyccarguy

@breld - I don't know if you are still looking for Etron GTs or Taycans, but a few of the LH brokers have some very strong deals right now. The only downside is you won't get the CO credit because the dealers are out of state. Just an example:

E Tron GT Prestige
15% off pre rebates
I have more than one-

CRAZY deal for this time
24/7500
Inc audicare
$2500 at signing for first and fees
23 additional payments of only $665/month + tax

$750 broker fee

breld

That lease deal is likely better than the future depreciation on even a deeply discounted used example. I like it!

Michaell

The good thing is that you have space in the garage for it!

tifighter

Time to find a purple one.

au1994

I predict a holiday weekend road trip for pick up.

28firefighter

If I was looking I’d pick that up at that price.

nyccarguy

@breld said:
That lease deal is likely better than the future depreciation on even a deeply discounted used example. I like it!

I can put you in touch with the broker if you’d like

mb_enthusiast

Hi guys! What are the most competitive mid-to-full size SUV lease deals in 60076? My now stepmother needs something for 24-36 months and 15k miles. Currently owns a Toyota and generally seems happy with anything. Hybrid or EV are ok, but the car is parked primarily at a condo that does not afford charging. Want to be under $800, $1000 tops!

qbrozen

@mb_enthusiast said:
Hi guys! What are the most competitive mid-to-full size SUV lease deals in 60076? My now stepmother needs something for 24-36 months and 15k miles. Currently owns a Toyota and generally seems happy with anything. Hybrid or EV are ok, but the car is parked primarily at a condo that does not afford charging. Want to be under $800, $1000 tops!

Certainly doesn’t sound like EV would be OK if she can’t charge at home.

qbrozen

Testing.

au1994

mb_enthusiast said:

Hi guys! What are the most competitive mid-to-full size SUV lease deals in 60076? My now stepmother needs something for 24-36 months and 15k miles. Currently owns a Toyota and generally seems happy with anything. Hybrid or EV are ok, but the car is parked primarily at a condo that does not afford charging. Want to be under $800, $1000 tops!

If she likes her Toyota, I’m 99% sure she could get into a nice Highlander in that range. My recent Grand Cherokee was well under those numbers and I’m happy with it.

qbrozen

Ha. Last message didn’t even post.
I have zero problems posting in the Project Cars thread but still can’t post here without a glitch. Do with that info what you will.

xwesx

qbrozen said:

Ha. Last message didn’t even post.

I have zero problems posting in the Project Cars thread but still can’t post here without a glitch. Do with that info what you will.

What I will? Hmm... I think I will either not post here or try to post something frivolous like this just out of curiosity!

jmonroe1

xwesx said:

qbrozen said:

Ha. Last message didn’t even post.

I have zero problems posting in the Project Cars thread but still can’t post here without a glitch. Do with that info what you will.

What I will? Hmm... I think I will either not post here or try to post something frivolous like this just out of curiosity!

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Frivolous? Nah, yours at least got past the gate keeper. How many of our poster buddies attempts never made it?

jmonroe

nyccarguy

Is there some sort of refresh or redesign of the Acura RDX coming soon? Looks like dealers still have '24s in stock and inbound, while they have '25 MDX & '25 Integras in stock.

stickguy

Not that I heard but it is due.

tifighter

It looks like the dealer is finally getting serious about selling the MDX I traded over 2 months ago…

andres3

tifighter said:

It looks like the dealer is finally getting serious about selling the MDX I traded over 2 months ago…

That's a lot of money honey!

stickguy

For that kind of coin I want new car smell too.

au1994

Seems like a good deal on a Type S.

jmonroe1

tifighter said:

It looks like the dealer is finally getting serious about selling the MDX I traded over 2 months ago…

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Would it be too nosy to ask how much profit the dealer would make, now that they’ve discounted it. It appears they got a little greedy and don’t want to eat it anymore.

jmonroe

qbrozen

What does the advance pack add to the msrp? I can’t seem to pull a value for one on Manheim, but a regular type S is only $45k. So figure $48k retail. I can’t imagine the advance pack adds THAT much.

corvette

So, they've had it on their lot two months... What's the endgame--they send a very nice, clean car to the auction and take a huge hit because they can't find a retail customer willing to pay their price?

The Ioniq 5 is growing on me. There was one parked near me at one of my DC fast charging stops last weekend... Is it bad that I'm already looking at a replacement for when the Ariya goes back over a year from now?

pensfan83

Off the top of my head massage seats, 360 camera, quilted seats, upgraded stereo,3rd row USB ports, heated rear seats, heated wheel.

xwesx

pensfan83 said:

Off the top of my head massage seats, 360 camera, quilted seats, upgraded stereo,3rd row USB ports, heated rear seats, heated wheel.

So, what you're saying is that, yes, yes it does.