Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

marcogallo1986 said:

Would be cool to go to the above mentioned, except someone else obviously would drive I’ll be in the passenger seat, only way for me to do it. I will stay let me drive one of those slowly around the track with someone next to me, which I doubt they would do due to legal reasons ha ha Ha.

Marco - you can go and pay to get driven a few laps in a pace car (a modded Mitsubishi Evo).

I've done that, as well, on my last trip there.

I rode in the back seat - that was not a good choice.

I'd much prefer to be the driver, at those speeds.

andres3

28firefighter said:

See if you can get CarMax to make it right. Just bumpers...

Yeah, but I'm figuring $1k PER BUMPER, for a total of $2K to make it right to Audi standards, if I'm lucky at CA rates.

Still, your idea of Carmax making it "right" rather than lowering the price (which they are loathe to do), is a good idea. If not, goes back, no big deal.

The big deal with bumpers is if it was a standard color (white/grey/black) then it wouldn't be a big deal. The purpose of Misano Red is to seek out a rare and beautiful color, but if the condition is crap, well then, what's the point?

The fact they've both been resprayed also tells me that Carfax/Autocheck are barely worth the web-space they take up.
Might as well get the one with a dirty car fax for $4K less.

28firefighter

Completely understand the line of thinking, particularly given the CarMax premium. But they aren’t going to want to unwind this deal, and my guess is if you notice it, someone else will, too.

No harm asking.

nyccarguy

Michaell said:

nyccarguy said:

marcogallo1986 said:

Would be cool to go to the above mentioned, except someone else obviously would drive I’ll be in the passenger seat, only way for me to do it. I will stay let me drive one of those slowly around the track with someone next to me, which I doubt they would do due to legal reasons ha ha Ha.

Marco - you can go and pay to get driven a few laps in a pace car (a modded Mitsubishi Evo).

I've done that, as well, on my last trip there.

I rode in the back seat - that was not a good choice.

I'd much prefer to be the driver, at those speeds.

For all of us, I agree. I don't think they'll let @marcogallo1986 drive for obvious reasons.

kyfdx

Cool thing this weekend..

Local general aviation airport had vintage aircraft in, starting on July 4th, offering flight rides, etc. They had three Huey copters from the Vietnam era. On Saturday, the helicopters did a flyover of the Reds stadium, and went right over my house, on the way. I'm about three miles from the stadium, so it was pretty cool, but not that low. (also, I'm three miles from the airport, as the Huey flies).

Yesterday, I was on the back porch, and they came over the ridge... all three of them. Doors open. Circled over the house twice, low enough that I could wave to the people inside. So loud, I couldn't hear my wife speak. It was like being in Apocalypse now.

andres3

28firefighter said:

Completely understand the line of thinking, particularly given the CarMax premium. But they aren’t going to want to unwind this deal, and my guess is if you notice it, someone else will, too.

No harm asking.

Yes, it's very noticeable, and the average Audi buyer will "probably" notice it. There's a lot of money floating around out there, and the way the car drives can make you overlook things, at least for a few minutes (it did to me).

They told me returns were simple fast, no questions asked! 4 documents to be signed is what they said, completely unwinding the deal fast and EASY, with the only fee being days of interest if you keep it more than 3 days which is the contract buyout period (but the limit is 7 days anyway on returns). Part of the Carmax premium covers this 7 day return period without hassles/fees (or so I hope, and will test out soon).

Even if they agree to fix the two bumpers (and some silver paint on the door), they'd have to unwind the deal and have me rebuy it AS IF for the first time, or:
1) extend the warranties from the day I get the car back after repairs
2) extend the return period for 7 days after I get the car back from repairs.
3) Probably lower the price $1,000 unless they do a stellar job (unlikely with CA body shops).
4) Potentially use a body shop of my choice which may mean 1-month delay since they are busy.

In light of the above, I'm thinking it's better if we just unwind and redo at a later date. That way I'm not on the hook for insurance, fees, taxes, costs, and running timelines with expirations while the car sits in a body shop for what could be a long time (especially since body shops in CA are known to not get it "right" on the first try).

I'm thinking they take it back, fix it, and I'll give them a first right of refusal again, as I am interested in the car if it was in 9 out of 10 or better condition. Restart the timelines, pretend I just did the right thing Sunday and told them to do the above without signing paperwork. Heck, we could use the same paperwork, just redate it , remile it, and initial the changes.

Carvana offering $1,624 more than Carmax on the Alltrack put me in TOO GOOD Of a mood! Vroom came in in the middle of Carmax and Carvana. Carvana has the BEST business model by far in my review of the two companies, though I may be biased by 1,624 reasons.

xwesx

marcogallo1986 said:

Would be cool to go to the above mentioned, except someone else obviously would drive I’ll be in the passenger seat, only way for me to do it. I will stay let me drive one of those slowly around the track with someone next to me, which I doubt they would do due to legal reasons ha ha Ha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6SUegrOZPY

xwesx

kyfdx said:

Cool thing this weekend..

Local general aviation airport had vintage aircraft in, starting on July 4th, offering flight rides, etc. They had three Huey copters from the Vietnam era. On Saturday, the helicopters did a flyover of the Reds stadium, and went right over my house, on the way. I'm about three miles from the stadium, so it was pretty cool, but not that low. (also, I'm three miles from the airport, as the Huey flies).

Yesterday, I was on the back porch, and they came over the ridge... all three of them. Doors open. Circled over the house twice, low enough that I could wave to the people inside. So loud, I couldn't hear my wife speak. It was like being in Apocalypse now.

Neat stuff!

I rode in a Huey once... July 1995 IIRC. Definitely loud! I'm glad nobody was shooting at us, because we would not have been able to hear it if they were....

marcogallo1986

@new York car guy good to no! I will have to look innn to that soon!

marcogallo1986

@michel I agree!

marcogallo1986

Lol lol whoops

marcogallo1986

@zwest. I know that guy in the video you posted I’ve seen that video before. Talk with him every now and then on the phone haven’t actually met him in person just yet.

marcogallo1986

I have him and hisss son on Facebook

marcogallo1986

@zwest thank you for posting it though!

marcogallo1986

@zwest when you get the chance look at sum of the other Videos that are posted on their. Yootoob. Chanal

marcogallo1986

Funny little video of the guy above called me tonight please I text him so we spoke on the phone for a little bit. His son bought on my engine and transmission combo but are you won’t tell me what you paid creed engine for his Dodge dart that he has he’s like I would’ve been happy just to keep an original engine and transmission getting it running good but my son surprised me so he’s all happy so I said me and you gonna drive it one day.

28firefighter

@qbrozen - you’ve had your 3er for a while now. What are your thoughts on having the 4 vs the 6 cylinder?

A 430 GC popped in my area with M sport, Adaptive Suspension, and HK stereo. Looks interesting but not initially something I was targeting.

qbrozen

Hmmm... which 6-cyl? It definitely does not have the punch of the 135i or CTS V Sport. It feels a bit better than the VQ35. The Alfa’s 4-pot was a little more responsive and flexible, I think. But I am pretty satisfied with the bimmer. It comes alive in Sport+, and I never find myself wishing for more. And I certainly have never gotten this kind of mileage from any boosted engine before.

I think it only lacks in the handling department, and just slightly. Less body lean and more responsive steering would be welcome.

The overall package is still top notch. I mean, here I am 6 mos in and still think another BMW lease after this will be one of my top choices.

28firefighter

This answered my question. I meant the Bimmer 6 cylinder you’d find in the 440.

breld

FWIW, I really enjoyed by 428 GC for the time I had it. It's a great overall package. That adaptive suspension (which I did not have) would be an impressive addition, I would think.

tjc78

I shouldn't be shopping yet, but this is tempting.

2019 Volvo S60 T6 Momentum AWD
MSRP: $46540

36/10K - $407 w/ $2300 OOP.

Michaell

tjc78 said:

I shouldn't be shopping yet, but this is tempting.

2019 Volvo S60 T6 Momentum AWD
MSRP: $46540

36/10K - $407 w/ $2300 OOP.

That's a lot of car for the money.

How easy would it be to exit the Elantra lease early?

tjc78

It goes back November 7th, so that's 4 payments @ 210.

Do I pull the trigger now and pay $840 to get the deal or wait until Oct and see if the deals are the same?

Truth be told I haven't driven an S60, but absolutely loved everything about the current gen S90 I drove and that was the smaller engine.

tjc78

Edit.. it's due back Nov 7th so that should only be Aug, Sept and October's payment ($630) I haven't kept a lease full term in so long...

Michaell

tjc78 said:

It goes back November 7th, so that's 4 payments @ 210.

Do I pull the trigger now and pay $840 to get the deal or wait until Oct and see if the deals are the same?

Truth be told I haven't driven an S60, but absolutely loved everything about the current gen S90 I drove and that was the smaller engine.

tjc78 said:

Edit.. it's due back Nov 7th so that should only be Aug, Sept and October's payment. I haven't kept a lease full term in so long...

$630 over 36 months would be an extra $17.50 added onto the Volvo payment.

Can't tell you what the S60 programs will look like then, But $425/mo for a $46K car is still a darn good payment.

stickguy

That a real offer or Volvo ad one? I assume that doesn’t include all DMV, tax, etc. but seriously nice car, if it’s big enough for you.

28firefighter

Worth exploring for sure, @tjc78. I'm sure you have been seeing what is being posted out of New England for Volvo - may be worth chasing.

tjc78

This is a broker over on LH. It's all in, doesn't have broker fee in post so that's a few bucks I missed.

$38740 selling price or almost 17% off.

stickguy

Troll locally for a service loaner. Can sometimes get a killer lease on those.

marcogallo1986

@ TJC, go for it you’re so close the end of the lease why not, and you know what all encourage you in here.

tjc78

First things first I need to test drive one!

Going to see if I can sneak away either tomorrow or Thursday night.

The last few payments aren’t really the issue, it’s just a really busy time for us and we have vacation in a few weeks etc.

28firefighter

tjc78 said:

First things first I need to test drive one!

Going to see if I can sneak away either tomorrow or Thursday night.

The last few payments aren’t really the issue, it’s just a really busy time for us and we have vacation in a few weeks etc.

I inquired, negotiated, and picked up a car in the span of 90 minutes last week. It goes fast when you aren't doing the dance and you know what you want.

tjc78

Yes sounds like how I bought Enclave #2. Few emails, one phone call and a drive to the dealer.

I *think* the S60 is what I want but wanted to test drive some stuff. That’s where it is hard to find the time.

xwesx

It's only a few months either way, and the Volvo deals will still be around in a few months, so it really comes down to what you feel is best for you!

Michaell

xwesx said:

It's only a few months either way, and the Volvo deals will still be around in a few months, so it really comes down to what you feel is best for you!

The deals may still be there (you hope), but inventory will certainly shrink as we get closer to the end of the model year. May not be able to find the right combination of trim, color and options.

kyfdx

They just started throwing incentives on the S60. If I had four months to go on my lease, I'd wait until the end of next month, at least.

stickguy

He's a lease shopper. the right combo is "cheap".

I agree with Ky. circle back after vacation and a couple more lease payments.

coldinohio

tjc78 said:

First things first I need to test drive one!

Going to see if I can sneak away either tomorrow or Thursday night.

The last few payments aren’t really the issue, it’s just a really busy time for us and we have vacation in a few weeks etc.

i liked the S60 T6 when I drove it in January; can get really unique interiors too
at interstate speeds, there was some ? wind noise? but very nice package

stickguy

T, shouldn't your wife be test driving this, since it will end up being her daily driver to the speedline?

kyfdx

stickguy said:

T, shouldn't your wife be test driving this, since it will end up being her daily driver to the speedline?

No extra charge for the marriage counseling...

tjc78

I think I’m gonna roll the dice and wait until at least after I make the Aug payment.

Called HF definitely only 3 payments left and due back within 10 days of Nov 7th

@stickguy
She wants zero to do with it. All we agreed upon was the budget. I told her she is getting the Enclave back as soon as the Hyundai is replaced and she said that’s fine.

Come Sept I’ll only be taking one kid to school two days a week. I won’t need the truckster

andres3

Just so you know I'm not nuts, I believe Carmax quality control personel must be completely color blind, oh nevermind, it won't let me attach photos.

What a shame because I forgot how effortlessly great the Audi S4 drives! Love the car, but $31K for a shoddy front and rear end car is not right, even if under 28K miles.

benjaminh

A friend took me in a ride in his brand new custom-ordered Porsche 911 yesterday. Wow. Great car. Accelerates like the Millennium Falcon going into hyperspace.

corvette

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:

T, shouldn't your wife be test driving this, since it will end up being her daily driver to the speedline?

No extra charge for the marriage counseling...

My Zen game was apparently on one afternoon, and some guy who was talking to me on a cold call said he really appreciated my patience and advice, and by the way, did I do short-term loans or marriage counseling?

qbrozen

tjc78 said:

I shouldn't be shopping yet, but this is tempting.

2019 Volvo S60 T6 Momentum AWD
MSRP: $46540

36/10K - $407 w/ $2300 OOP.

Where are you located? There is a broker in the NE with a $55k Inscription loaner for $349+tax and $2500 DAS. And a NEW $51k R design for $369+tax and $2500 DAS.

tjc78

I’m in South Jersey right near @stickguy

Those look tempting too!

Trying to get a test drive in this week to at least know if I like it as much as the S90

stickguy

I think it is very much going to be an S90 with a shorter back seat and trunk.

qbrozen

28firefighter said:

@qbrozen - you’ve had your 3er for a while now. What are your thoughts on having the 4 vs the 6 cylinder?

A 430 GC popped in my area with M sport, Adaptive Suspension, and HK stereo. Looks interesting but not initially something I was targeting.

$7k incentives, 62% RV for 24/12, and .00145 MF. Good god that could be a cheap lease! Not really sure I would jump from my 330 to this outgoing 430. Think I gotta hold out for an X2 35i or a 2019+ 330 or 2020 430 (I’m assuming that is the one getting the 2019 330 upgrades). But, then again, if I could cut $100/mo, why not? I’d have to swap mine, which probably wouldn’t be a problem.

pensfan83

For as much as I love the Acura I could probably be just as happy in one of these 3 series deals with a payment that's $100 to $125 cheaper.

stickguy

same here Pens.