Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

breld

tjc78 said:

stickguy said:

I know that when I was looking at cars when the current RDX came out, and was at the Acura dealer a few times and online researching, the MDX leased out quite a bit cheaper than a comparable RDX with a sticker ~$10k later.

my wife would never want to drive a FS truck, and I really don't have much desire to do it all the time either. A compact though, would be nice as my 2nd car.

I need to go and drive an MDX. I’ve always liked them. I think the wife would go for it.

Settlements are 10/29 and 10/30. Once we are moved in it’s time to really get to work. I have until 12/7. The only thing I’m trying to avoid is, registration is due on 11/30. So if I’m not staying GM and transferring plates I want to have to locked up by then to avoid paying that.

I took some pretty extensive test drives of the MDX (a V6 Advance and a Sport Hybrid) recently and expected to be let down given its imminent replacement, but I was very impressed with how it drove. The overall feel and quality of materials is a notch below most luxury competitors, but given the savings I think it's appropriate. And the actual driving experience is engaging and a bit nostalgic with the n/a V6. I really liked the Sport Hybrid model - there's quite a difference in the way it feels, so I would recommend giving that a shot.

stickguy

tjc78 said:

stickguy said:

I know that when I was looking at cars when the current RDX came out, and was at the Acura dealer a few times and online researching, the MDX leased out quite a bit cheaper than a comparable RDX with a sticker ~$10k later.

my wife would never want to drive a FS truck, and I really don't have much desire to do it all the time either. A compact though, would be nice as my 2nd car.

I need to go and drive an MDX. I’ve always liked them. I think the wife would go for it.

Settlements are 10/29 and 10/30. Once we are moved in it’s time to really get to work. I have until 12/7. The only thing I’m trying to avoid is, registration is due on 11/30. So if I’m not staying GM and transferring plates I want to have to locked up by then to avoid paying that.

you should be fine going a few days over. I know that nobody is paying any attention to inspection stickers either. If somehow you got stopped and had to produce the registration, act dumb and just say it is going back in a few days. No way would I pay for a renewal! But getting it done first, certainly a good idea.

stickguy

I had a loaner MDX about a year ago. It was very nice. I just found it to be big and bulky, but that obviously does not bother you. But features and comfort wise, it was nicely loaded. Drive very well, great drivetrain.

tjc78

breld said:

tjc78 said:

stickguy said:

I know that when I was looking at cars when the current RDX came out, and was at the Acura dealer a few times and online researching, the MDX leased out quite a bit cheaper than a comparable RDX with a sticker ~$10k later.

my wife would never want to drive a FS truck, and I really don't have much desire to do it all the time either. A compact though, would be nice as my 2nd car.

I need to go and drive an MDX. I’ve always liked them. I think the wife would go for it.

Settlements are 10/29 and 10/30. Once we are moved in it’s time to really get to work. I have until 12/7. The only thing I’m trying to avoid is, registration is due on 11/30. So if I’m not staying GM and transferring plates I want to have to locked up by then to avoid paying that.

I took some pretty extensive test drives of the MDX (a V6 Advance and a Sport Hybrid) recently and expected to be let down given its imminent replacement, but I was very impressed with how it drove. The overall feel and quality of materials is a notch below most luxury competitors, but given the savings I think it's appropriate. And the actual driving experience is engaging and a bit nostalgic with the n/a V6. I really liked the Sport Hybrid model - there's quite a difference in the way it feels, so I would recommend giving that a shot.

Thanks for that. I’d be looking at a Tech or Advance. I do like the idea of the V6 engine. That is why I like the GM options, I’m so used to the 3.6 V6 at this point.

tjc78

stickguy said:

tjc78 said:

stickguy said:

I know that when I was looking at cars when the current RDX came out, and was at the Acura dealer a few times and online researching, the MDX leased out quite a bit cheaper than a comparable RDX with a sticker ~$10k later.

my wife would never want to drive a FS truck, and I really don't have much desire to do it all the time either. A compact though, would be nice as my 2nd car.

I need to go and drive an MDX. I’ve always liked them. I think the wife would go for it.

Settlements are 10/29 and 10/30. Once we are moved in it’s time to really get to work. I have until 12/7. The only thing I’m trying to avoid is, registration is due on 11/30. So if I’m not staying GM and transferring plates I want to have to locked up by then to avoid paying that.

you should be fine going a few days over. I know that nobody is paying any attention to inspection stickers either. If somehow you got stopped and had to produce the registration, act dumb and just say it is going back in a few days. No way would I pay for a renewal! But getting it done first, certainly a good idea.

Yeah, it’s not like we drove all that much these days and we do have another car.

Michaell

Could you turn in the Enclave and wait until the end of the year?

This is one of the downsides of leasing. You have to pull the trigger on something, but inventory and the lease programs are not in your favor.

28firefighter

2020 MDX Tech is a great value - helped a friend get one and they love it.

Re: Jersey Mikes - feh.

au1994

Michaell said:

Could you turn in the Enclave and wait until the end of the year?

This is one of the downsides of leasing. You have to pull the trigger on something, but inventory and the lease programs are not in your favor.

There ya go, making sense again!

tjc78

Michaell said:

Could you turn in the Enclave and wait until the end of the year?

This is one of the downsides of leasing. You have to pull the trigger on something, but inventory and the lease programs are not in your favor.

Yes we certainly could. We won’t be going to the shore after next weekend and if I need to haul something we do have my Mom’s RAV4.

If we are going with anything GM I would assume that I need to do that before lease end or I’ll get stuck with the dispo fee.

qbrozen

Michaell said:

Had an itch last nite, and found this site with lots of cool JDM stuff for sale:

https://www.duncanimports.com/

Can't recall if I've posted any from there in the past. I have that site tagged and like to peruse it. I've shown the wife some of the luxo sedans, but she scoffs. Ah well.

Michaell

tjc78 said:

Michaell said:

Could you turn in the Enclave and wait until the end of the year?

This is one of the downsides of leasing. You have to pull the trigger on something, but inventory and the lease programs are not in your favor.

Yes we certainly could. We won’t be going to the shore after next weekend and if I need to haul something we do have my Mom’s RAV4.

If we are going with anything GM I would assume that I need to do that before lease end or I’ll get stuck with the dispo fee.

You should check - might be a 30 or 60 day grace period.

Sucks to shop in a hurry.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

QUICK! Someone kill it before it can reproduce!!

I have the worst taste in cars imaginable and even I think that’s hideous.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

This could be fun.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9l07JJ7M/2006-nissan-350z-coupe

I’d be scared to death of a 14 year old sports car that hit NYC potholes for 100k miles.

tjc78

Michaell said:

tjc78 said:

Michaell said:

Could you turn in the Enclave and wait until the end of the year?

This is one of the downsides of leasing. You have to pull the trigger on something, but inventory and the lease programs are not in your favor.

Yes we certainly could. We won’t be going to the shore after next weekend and if I need to haul something we do have my Mom’s RAV4.

If we are going with anything GM I would assume that I need to do that before lease end or I’ll get stuck with the dispo fee.

You should check - might be a 30 or 60 day grace period.

Sucks to shop in a hurry.

I am going to call GM financial. I could also extend a month or two. It’s B2B for four years so it’s still under warranty.

stickguy

VW and Hyundai both had a window to reverse the disposal fee. One I think was 90 days. Might have to pay it then get a refund.

I forgot you have a spare car at the house. Really no rush in that case.

I like the MDX idea. Worth a look.

stickguy

That green 1995 SL I found is already sold (at least pending). Went quick.

xwesx

Gotta love Fairbanks.

corvette

xwesx said:

Gotta love Fairbanks.

I remember some of @akangl 's stories... Seems like the dealers there know that it generally costs at least a couple grand in costs plus their time for someone to fly to the lower 48 and drive something back, so they just add that to the price.

mjfloyd1

xwesx said:

Gotta love Fairbanks.

Weird. I clicked on a couple of other vehicles and they didn’t have market adjustments

Sandman6472

Drove a brand new 2021 Ford Edge with the Ecoboost 4 and found it anemic to say the least, prefer the larger engine for some get up and go. It was black over black with an extra charge for the black which I found totally ridiculous! But we've never been a Ford family and the one we had really sucked! Never made it home from the dealer and had to be towed back to the dealer. The two Lincolns my folks had, well, they were o k and don't really consider them true Fords. We were basically a GM family until the late 80's when my mom started getting Mercury Marquis's, always white with a blue landau roof and that G-d awful spare tire holder on the back bumper. Think she had three of these in a row, hated riding in them as they looked like a pimp-mobile!
Wife had a Buick Skylark two door as her first vehicle and then into a Olds Cutlass Supreme sedan which worked great with three kids under the age of four! Then she switched to foreign and hasn't looked back.

oldfarmer50

xwesx said:

Gotta love Fairbanks.

Is that a special truck up there that it deserves a $6k premium?

oldfarmer50

How about this as a fun little run about?



Before you comment look again.

andres3

I really REALLY like this Porsche!!! Guards Red is the real deal. Would make an excellent retirement gift.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KDEWjNYo/2007-porsche-911-carrera-4s-coupe

sda

Test

qbrozen

Just saw the Hummer EV commercial.

Looks familiar, no?

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106753402-1603238940805-2022-GMC-HUMMER-EV-013.jpg?v=1603238988&w=720&h=405

https://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/2001-Chevrolet-Avalanche-Rear-End.jpg

roadburner

stickguy said:

Here’s one for RB. a club sport to go with his club sport.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/92RqJAox/2019-bmw-m4-cs

An M2 CS has just arrived...

stickguy

andres3 said:

I really REALLY like this Porsche!!! Guards Red is the real deal. Would make an excellent retirement gift.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KDEWjNYo/2007-porsche-911-carrera-4s-coupe

that is pretty. I would prefer a RWD version though instead.

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

How about this as a fun little run about?



Before you comment look again.

The backwards car. I think it is a Renault?

corvette

andres3 said:

I really REALLY like this Porsche!!! Guards Red is the real deal. Would make an excellent retirement gift.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KDEWjNYo/2007-porsche-911-carrera-4s-coupe

Well, then, just retire and buy it for yourself as a retirement gift!

xwesx

corvette said:

andres3 said:

I really REALLY like this Porsche!!! Guards Red is the real deal. Would make an excellent retirement gift.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KDEWjNYo/2007-porsche-911-carrera-4s-coupe

Well, then, just retire and buy it for yourself as a retirement gift!

Good idea... twenty years from now!

ab348

qbrozen said:

Just saw the Hummer EV commercial.

Looks familiar, no?

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106753402-1603238940805-2022-GMC-HUMMER-EV-013.jpg?v=1603238988&w=720&h=405

https://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/2001-Chevrolet-Avalanche-Rear-End.jpg

Well, not really. You could say it looks like a gen 1 Ridgeline too I suppose.

I laughed when I watched the commercial. It is just so over the top and I imagine hideously expensive. Between the 1000hp and the crabwalk feature it seems to have both ends of the spectrum covered.

oldfarmer50

xwesx said:

corvette said:

andres3 said:

I really REALLY like this Porsche!!! Guards Red is the real deal. Would make an excellent retirement gift.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KDEWjNYo/2007-porsche-911-carrera-4s-coupe

Well, then, just retire and buy it for yourself as a retirement gift!

Good idea... twenty years from now!

Why wait, get what you want while you can still enjoy it. Nothing more sad than one of us old codgers driving a fancy car 20 under in the left lane all 3 strands of hair blowing in the wind.

nyccarguy

28firefighter said:

2020 MDX Tech is a great value - helped a friend get one and they love it.

Re: Jersey Mikes - feh.

What does the Tech get you over the base MDX?

qbrozen

ab348 said:

qbrozen said:

Just saw the Hummer EV commercial.

Looks familiar, no?

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106753402-1603238940805-2022-GMC-HUMMER-EV-013.jpg?v=1603238988&w=720&h=405

https://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/2001-Chevrolet-Avalanche-Rear-End.jpg

Well, not really. You could say it looks like a gen 1 Ridgeline too I suppose.

I laughed when I watched the commercial. It is just so over the top and I imagine hideously expensive. Between the 1000hp and the crabwalk feature it seems to have both ends of the spectrum covered.

I thought Initially Ridgeline, too, but the Ridge had... ridges ... lol... that make it look different. Not to mention no wrap around bumper, different taillight shape, and the rising bed sides. I think there are many similarities in what I posted. Not just the C pillar, but the flat wheel arches, wrap around bumper, and some other more vague hints. Take away the midline cladding of the Avalanche and it is even closer. Granted, I understand we are talking pickups here. But I guess I was hoping for more “wow.”

Funny about pricing. A friend texted me about it before the commercial. I commented that it will probably start at $80k. After the commercial I wrote back “1000 hp! Crab walk?! Ok, maybe $110k?”

Then found the C&D release stating the loaded launch edition will be $112k and cheaper ones will come a year later starting at $79995. I’m rather impressed with myself! LOL.

stickguy

nyccarguy said:

28firefighter said:

2020 MDX Tech is a great value - helped a friend get one and they love it.

Re: Jersey Mikes - feh.

What does the Tech get you over the base MDX?

at least on the RDX and TLX, primary updates on the Tech package are BLIS/cross path, full real leather, and upgraded tunes.

Edit: Decided to look it up. Forgot Navi, that is the other primary feature. But looks like on the MDX it adds a lot more incidentals, including bigger wheels and various electronic goodies.

INTERIOR

Perforated Leather Seats
GPS-Linked10 Climate Control
Natural Wood Accents
EXTERIOR

20-in Shark Gray Twisted Machine-Finished 10-Spoke Wheels
Rain-Sensing Windshield Wipers
Power-Folding Side Mirrors with LED Puddle Lights
DRIVER CONVENIENCE

Remote Engine Start
Color Multi-Information Display (MID) with Turn-By-Turn Guidance
Rear Door Smart Key Entry
DRIVER SAFETY & ASSISTANCE

Blind Spot Information System20
Rear Cross Traffic Monitor76
Parking Sensors (front and rear)
MEDIA & CONNECTIVITY

Acura Navigation System10 with 3D View
Acura/ELS Studio®32 Premium Audio System with 10 Speakers, HD Radio® and Song By Voice®
Voice Recognition System for Navigation, Audio, And Bluetooth®11 HandsFreeLink®
AcuraLink®70 Connected Service
SMS44 / Email / Siri® Eyes Free8

tjc78

Yeah, tech is a must IMO. Definitely going to drive one and show the wife. I’m thinking there will be some deals on them.

Only thing I don’t like about the tech is is doesn’t have captain’s chairs in the middle. Have to step up to the advance for that.

corvette

tjc78 said:

Only thing I don’t like about the tech is is doesn’t have captain’s chairs in the middle. Have to step up to the advance for that.

My dog prefers a bench seat in the middle.

Michaell

tjc78 said:

Yeah, tech is a must IMO. Definitely going to drive one and show the wife. I’m thinking there will be some deals on them.

Only thing I don’t like about the tech is is doesn’t have captain’s chairs in the middle. Have to step up to the advance for that.

Get 'em while you can. Pretty good lease deals going on at the moment.

Also, there are two different MF and incentives available

.00042 and $4450
or
.00215 and $8600

You'll have to run the numbers to see which gives you the lower payment.

tjc78

Thanks! Our local dealer has 113 in stock.

Far cry from the 4 Enclaves at the Buick dealer

stickguy

that might drop quick once you eliminate certain colors and trim levels.

so out of 113 units, 32 are AWD tech (29) or advance(3). Vast majority are black or white. A few silver, and a few grays. No blue or bronze or any other color that actually has something passing for color!

I am partial to this color combo of course.

https://www.eliteacura.com/inventory/new-2020-acura-mdx-sh-awd-with-technology-package-all-wheel-drive-suv-5j8yd4h58ll013436

tjc78

Ha ha I was just looking too. Only Advanced they have are all white over black. I’m not a fan of black interior, but could do it with a white exterior.

In all honesty the Tech has almost everything you need. The middle row and heated wheel are the only things my wife would miss.

The black over parchment is a nice combo too.

stickguy

small give ups to avoid the black interior. and save some money. I would have liked a couple of the advance features on our RDX, but not enough to lay out another $3,000 or whatever it was to get them.

ab348

qbrozen said:

I thought Initially Ridgeline, too, but the Ridge had... ridges ... lol... that make it look different. Not to mention no wrap around bumper, different taillight shape, and the rising bed sides. I think there are many similarities in what I posted. Not just the C pillar, but the flat wheel arches, wrap around bumper, and some other more vague hints. Take away the midline cladding of the Avalanche and it is even closer. Granted, I understand we are talking pickups here. But I guess I was hoping for more “wow.”

I think it kinda looks like the old Hummer more than anything.

xwesx

Yeah, I have no issues with the design. I think they stuck with the Hummer physique while pushing a strong "post-modern" vibe. It is a bit of a farce that pretty much every feature they touted in the intro video is available only on the extremely-limited-production and top-of-the-line intro series. 1000 vehicles... all reserved within minutes of the reveal. The next-highest-trim level has none of that.... it's just a ho-hum electric truck.

28firefighter

My experience helping my friend a few weeks back was that the local dealer had an ungodly amount of MDX tech inventory - something like 70+.

Their initial response to our offer was that we were using the wrong MF for the sale price (probably didn't love that we asked for a 4k+ dealer discount before incentives) which now makes more sense given what @michaell said above about the two different programs. We just said we'd take the offer to another local dealer who also had like 80 of them and they caved.

Given the price points other 3 row SUVs are hitting right now, the outgoing MDX would be my top choice. Hardly a penalty box even though it is an older design.

mjfloyd1

roadburner said:

stickguy said:

Here’s one for RB. a club sport to go with his club sport.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/92RqJAox/2019-bmw-m4-cs

An M2 CS has just arrived...

Is this one a keeper?

Michaell

@breld mentioned his recent test drives of the MDX - I was able to catch up with him on the second one, the gas Advance trim.

It's a nice vehicle, even though it is a bit on the old side. For a 3 year lease, I think it would be a good choice.

pensfan83

I'll also add that AFS offers nice lease end perks. Mileage rollover of unused miles (up to 15K), additional wear/tear waiver if you lease or buy another Acura, mileage forgiveness of 50% of your overage (up to 7.5K) + 1K extra miles added to your next Acura lease.

We took advantage of the 7500 mile RV but have a 36K mileage allotment for our current lease.

tifighter

xwesx said:

Yeah, I have no issues with the design. I think they stuck with the Hummer physique while pushing a strong "post-modern" vibe. It is a bit of a farce that pretty much every feature they touted in the intro video is available only on the extremely-limited-production and top-of-the-line intro series. 1000 vehicles... all reserved within minutes of the reveal. The next-highest-trim level has none of that.... it's just a ho-hum electric truck.

An $80K Hummer base truck with 250 miles range due in 2024.
vs
A $70K Cybertruck range topper with 500 miles due end of 2021.

GM has some work to do.

stickguy

wonder how fast that 500 mile range drops towing anything near the towing capacity. and sounds like fun trying to pull a truck with a big trailer into a supercharger!