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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 16,465
    tjc78 said:

    Now this is a convertible!

    Channeling my inner My Cousin Vinny

    I’d take this in a minute.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-cadillac-62-convertible-6/

    That is very nice. It might be a better investment to buy classic cars as the price of late model used cars are still crazy. Yesterday we delivered a pick up to a dealer for $38k. 9 months ago that same truck was going for $27-30k. It’s going to take a long time to work through that high priced inventory before prices regain sanity.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    Chase scene was a gen 2. I like those also.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 12,131
    edited October 23

    Rained all day today so it was a bit of a chore driving at work. I had to drive the 13-pack right around lunchtime, but glad I did. While at PBI getting two vehicles to bring to an office in Lantana, the other two got into a slight accident while one was backing up. It didn't hurt the paint but it left a nice dimple in the sheet metal. Naturally, there were forms to fill out and it took a good hour to get that all done. But accidents do happen, just part of the game I suspect. We eventually got another vehicle and dropped both off at the location that needed them. Was just glad that I wasn't involved to be honest. I'm sure that after a certain amount of these fender benders, Enterprise would have no choice but to let the multiple offender go. No one likes to fire someone or get fired, but depending on how many vehicles get damaged, management has no other choice than to sever ties with that person. I do remember someone I worked with as an independent contractor who also got hired by Hertz, getting fired because he had a bunch of small fender benders. Guess they felt that he was too great a risk and had to say good bye once and for all.
    I know these kind of things are sometimes unavoidable but I try very hard to be as careful as I can so not to have one. I did have one at Hertz, minor though it was, I still had to fill out paperwork and then go for a drug test. Doubt they do the drug testing anymore, but back then, it was mandatory. And with all the rain today, we saw a multitude of accidents all over South Florida!

    Up here Enterprise has a three strikes and out policy. Some of the guys have come pretty close. One had two accidents in his first month, one was a doozie where he wrapped a 900 miles cargo van around a steel beam coming into the yard. Another guy actually knocked the gate to the yard off the hinges because he said the gas pedal stuck.

    Then we had one crash into a tractor trailer, knocking the wheels off the truck, another who flipped a car end over end and a young guy who didn’t tell the company he was on heavy duty pain killers and passed out, rolling the Jeep in a ditch.

    And that’s only the ones I know about. None of them was drug tested which blows my mind.
    So what your saying is they'll hire anyone and anything with a pulse. :worried:

    If I was running things, any at-fault collision within the first 6 month "probationary" period would equal 3 strikes.
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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 12,131

    andres3 said:

    https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3vApe7RO/1985-porsche-928-s

    I was tempted... but a Porsche fanatic got it.

    Was that a good Porsche model? I remember seeing one in the cash for clunkers line at the dealer in 2009.
    Not sure. Porsche was perennially at the top of JD Powers it seems like forever. It has a V8. Looks to be in good shape, and they already spent a small fortune on it to get it in tip top running condition. Someone thought it was worth more than $20K; so can't be that bad, can it?
    '15 Audi S4 quattro AWD Prestige, '16 Audi TTS quattro AWD 2.0T, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • ronsteveronsteve LooavulPosts: 894
    ab348 said:

    stickguy said:

    down the rabbit hole, and what do I find at the bottom, one of my other "dream cars" from back in my HS days!

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercury-capri-4/

    IIRC those were not good cars. Aside from rust issues, they had front end woes and things like wipers and heaters used to go bad with great regularity.
    My dad had a 1973, same drivetrain. Had it for too short a time because the electrics were terrible. ☹
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2013 VW Jetta 2.5SE
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 12,131
    edited October 23
    xwesx said:

    Darn. I missed this milestone. It took me a while to sync up having a camera on hand and being in the vehicle...



    It turned over on my way to work this morning.

    Time to trade it in! You can't own an Audi past 100K. Everyone here seems to think they implode soon thereafter.

    Admittedly, the old 4.2 V8 with the inaccessible timing chains is like holding a grenade with the pin halfway out by 100,000 miles.
    '15 Audi S4 quattro AWD Prestige, '16 Audi TTS quattro AWD 2.0T, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    I figure that after almost 50 years, any issues like that have been sorted out.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,188
    andres3 said:


    Admittedly, the old 4.2 V8 with the inaccessible timing chains is like holding a grenade with the pin halfway out by 100,000 miles.

    Well, if it is going to implode, I do hope it chooses soon! The settlement warranty continues to 120,000 miles, so now's the time to go belly up if it is going to do it. :D
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,188
    stickguy said:

    I figure that after almost 50 years, any issues like that have been sorted out.

    Too many vehicles under discussion.... to which were you referring?
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    xwesx said:

    stickguy said:

    I figure that after almost 50 years, any issues like that have been sorted out.

    Too many vehicles under discussion.... to which were you referring?
    In this case, the Capri. But concept holds for most any old car with known flaws. Such as a Panera. They had major defects from new, but any of them still on the road, have long since had upgrades done to resolve them.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 7,192
    Turns out it was a good thing I did not try to replace my EV charger myself. The new one was a completely different model requiring new wiring from the junction box, moving the mounting, etc. Anyway, all set now. Turns out that the previous model I had was known for a bad batch of circuit boards in its final run...lucky me!
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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,188

    Turns out it was a good thing I did not try to replace my EV charger myself. The new one was a completely different model requiring new wiring from the junction box, moving the mounting, etc. Anyway, all set now. Turns out that the previous model I had was known for a bad batch of circuit boards in its final run...lucky me!

    Yeah, great timing there! Hahah; oh, well, it's resolved now, and it seems like it was done rather quickly!
    2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    Good old auto correct.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721

    Turns out it was a good thing I did not try to replace my EV charger myself. The new one was a completely different model requiring new wiring from the junction box, moving the mounting, etc. Anyway, all set now. Turns out that the previous model I had was known for a bad batch of circuit boards in its final run...lucky me!

    Odd that they can’t just replace the circuit board. Guess that would have been too easy to build it that way.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 7,192
    Oh come on, @stickguy. You know as well as I do that the era of replaceable parts in electronics is long gone. My guess is that it is more efficient (and reduces follow-up engagement and therefore customer satisfaction) for a manufacturer to replace the whole unit and recycle the old one.

    Plus, if this one was poorly built, you have to wonder what else could go wrong with it after you replace the board...
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 165,535

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    Michaell said:
    Why can’t TJC just ask us himself?

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,996
    @stickguy,
    I was thinking the same thing when I saw the link. :D
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 165,535
    @stickguy @explorerx4 - I never thought of that when I posted the link. Though I don't think he's ever mentioned an Atlas

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    it came up once.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 165,535

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 11,129
    Ha Ha.. that's too funny! With the lease prices on these things, I'm not really in a hurry to get any of them.

    I guess sales at Cadillac are strong these days. They took a whopping $1,000 off sticker on a $56K SUV, yielding a $650 lease payment. I told the salesperson it's going to take a lot more discount to get a deal done.

    If I'm going to be at $600 or above I'm springing for the XC90.

    I'll take the XT6 if I can get a 55K example under $550 but no more. All of this makes the MDX leases look better and better.

    At this point this purchase is going well into November which is smart considering all I have on my plate right now. It's doubtful to me that any programs will get worse heading into the holidays.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,304
    edited October 23
    Anyone checked out the Bronco configurator? Friend who got on the list a while ago is asking for my thoughts. Holy cow they made the trims and packages complicated! And the resulting MSRP spread would make you think you are shopping a Porsche. I’ve discovered you can achieve about 2.5x spread from base to the top.

    And what the heck is with Bronco vs Bronco Sport? Doesn’t look like the same vehicle at all. He wants the Sport, of course, as I’m sure everyone else does.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 11,129
    They are totally different vehicles.

    Bronco sport is an Escape.

    Bronco is a true BOF truck

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,996
    @qbrozen,
    Bronco Sport is Based off the Escape. Bronco is similar to Wrangler.
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 165,535

    @qbrozen,
    Bronco Sport is Based off the Escape. Bronco is similar to Wrangler.

    I guess I understand better why the Escape was reskinned to be more - er - feminine looking.

    It's good that there is a variety of shapes to the small SUV market.

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  • au1994au1994 GAPosts: 1,765

    @qbrozen,
    Bronco Sport is Based off the Escape. Bronco is similar to Wrangler.

    Make mine a Bronco, please. I plan on hitting the configurator this weekend.

    2008 Toyota Land Cruiser White over Tan
    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    the big bronco is based on the Ranger platform. And sounds like an awesome off road truck. Sport, is a boxy, slightly more off road ready Escape.

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,275
    @tjc78 - I’m sure you’re seeing the same thing, but I got an email recently advertising $10k off 2020 XC90’s. If that’s what you really want, don’t be scared away of the higher MSRP. And they generally have $2-3k additional off for loyalty.

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,275
    My boss has a Bronco Sport on order - it’s supposed to be his vehicle for his family’s vacation home in Florida. So probably appropriate for that purpose.

    As a side note, it’s replacing a 2002 525i that he’s had since new. That was to be the family home vehicle, but at well over 200k miles, he decided to pass it on to a family member and get something new.

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,275

    2019 Cayenne Base - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI JCW Hardtop

  • breldbreld Posts: 5,275
    I’m not saying it’s a steal or anything close, but given the miles and model year, if this has been properly maintained, it’s a nice example.

    https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/denver-2002-bmw-m5-base/7218265082.html

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    nice looking. Just pricey.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,996
    They did a crappy job on the paint on that M5 on the left rear door.
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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 13,895
    breld said:
    A 5000lb vehicle to drive to the grocery store. Nice-looking though.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 13,867
    In Europe Ford offered several hotted-up versions of the Capri and they are considered a fun and affordable classic. The RS2600 was one example- a homologation special for European touring car competition.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,910
    ab348 said:

    breld said:
    A 5000lb vehicle to drive to the grocery store. Nice-looking though.
    $66k is a bargain. I agree it looks like the Bentley. Power and 0-60 time are competitive in its price range, unlike the Palisade / Telluride.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,304
    Oh, see, herein is the problem. I must have mixed up the two. So the Sport is the not-cool one. Then it is the non-Sport he is after. I can’t imagine anyone bothering to pre-order a Sport.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    that makes a lot more sense. Though I would not mind having a Sport at some point.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,304
    Anyway, it seems my friend and I agreed the 4-dr Big Bend model with 2.7, LSD, and Mid pack, along with some other little things, is the way to go. Comes in at $43k for me. Too bad the yellow isn’t a color choice on that trim.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 39,721
    definitely a cool car.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,188
    I find it rather disgusting that the manual transmission is only available on the most base of the base model. Seems pointless that they even offered it if they're going to be so belligerently biased against it.
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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 11,129
    breld said:

    @tjc78 - I’m sure you’re seeing the same thing, but I got an email recently advertising $10k off 2020 XC90’s. If that’s what you really want, don’t be scared away of the higher MSRP. And they generally have $2-3k additional off for loyalty.

    Yes, they discount heavily. I just have to come to terms that they don’t lease as well as sedans and I’m going to have to pay more! Even the broker deals seem to be around $650 for a 60K T6 Momentum

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  • ventureventure Central PAPosts: 1,842
    tjc78 said:

    breld said:

    @tjc78 - I’m sure you’re seeing the same thing, but I got an email recently advertising $10k off 2020 XC90’s. If that’s what you really want, don’t be scared away of the higher MSRP. And they generally have $2-3k additional off for loyalty.

    Yes, they discount heavily. I just have to come to terms that they don’t lease as well as sedans and I’m going to have to pay more! Even the broker deals seem to be around $650 for a 60K T6 Momentum
    I know you mentioned the Ascent before. Have you looked at them yet?

    You can probably buy a 2021 for about what you would pay to lease something else. Depending on the model, they are being discounted by at least $3,000 +- right off the bat. Along with 0% financing for 63 months the payments aren't bad. Of course it will depend on whether you like them or not.

    We were close to getting a Pilot almost a year ago when we bought the Ascent instead. My wife liked them better.

    We don't have an Acura dealer nearby, but we looked at almost everything else except MB and BMW. Mrs. venture doesn't like their persona.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 11,129
    I haven’t looked at the Ascent yet. I won’t buy anything, it will be a lease.

    I’ll show the wife some pictures.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 16,465
    tjc78 said:

    Ha Ha.. that's too funny! With the lease prices on these things, I'm not really in a hurry to get any of them.

    I guess sales at Cadillac are strong these days. They took a whopping $1,000 off sticker on a $56K SUV, yielding a $650 lease payment. I told the salesperson it's going to take a lot more discount to get a deal done.

    If I'm going to be at $600 or above I'm springing for the XC90.

    I'll take the XT6 if I can get a 55K example under $550 but no more. All of this makes the MDX leases look better and better.

    At this point this purchase is going well into November which is smart considering all I have on my plate right now. It's doubtful to me that any programs will get worse heading into the holidays.

    Prices can only get better as time goes on.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 16,465
    breld said:
    Strange terminology they use “upstart” and “fledgling company”. Hasn’t Genesis been it’s own brand for over a decade? I know I considered a Genesis coupe in 2008.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 16,465
    breld said:

    I’m not saying it’s a steal or anything close, but given the miles and model year, if this has been properly maintained, it’s a nice example.

    https://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/d/denver-2002-bmw-m5-base/7218265082.html

    It’s nice to see a car that old without the rust you see around me. $29k? How much did it sticker for 18+ years ago?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

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