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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,933

    @breld said:

    @nyccarguy said:

    @qbrozen said:

    @breld said:
    For whatever it's worth, I sold my WRX to Vroom and the process went very smooth. So hopefully the payoff can get cleared up tomorrow and everything will proceed as expected.

    Went right past me that you sold that already.

    You aren’t the only one.

    Didn’t figure it was anything particularly interesting to anyone…knowing the Integra is due hopefully sometime this summer, I checked the usual buy options and vroom came in with a nice offer a bit more than I paid (but before taxes).

    Even with the tax savings on a trade, I figured it was worth taking the high offer to get ahead of it and not be subject to any lowball trade offers when they know I’m buying the Integra either way.

    So you paid tax, tags, and fees to drive it for a couple of weeks? How many miles did you even put on it?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,511
    breld said:

    @nyccarguy said:

    @qbrozen said:

    @breld said:

    For whatever it's worth, I sold my WRX to Vroom and the process went very smooth. So hopefully the payoff can get cleared up tomorrow and everything will proceed as expected.

    Went right past me that you sold that already.

    You aren’t the only one.

    Didn’t figure it was anything particularly interesting to anyone…knowing the Integra is due hopefully sometime this summer, I checked the usual buy options and vroom came in with a nice offer a bit more than I paid (but before taxes).

    Even with the tax savings on a trade, I figured it was worth taking the high offer to get ahead of it and not be subject to any lowball trade offers when they know I’m buying the Integra either way.


    that was why I pre-sold my 1st Maverick. Plus I already asked the dealer and knew they were about $8k back of Carvana, and I doubted they were coming up when I was sitting there having to trade 2 months later!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,645

    stickguy said:

    I shopped Honda/Acura ESPs recently and found the same thing. from a forum, some random dealer in Mass was selling for something like $100 over cost. way less than the Honda dealer my son and his finance got their CRV at (I also priced one for my RDX since I was considering that but never pulled the trigger).

    Whodathunkit? MA, the low cost state.
    Since MA has unlimited doc fees you could be in for a surprise at signing.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,710
    edited June 2023
    qbrozen said:

    @breld said:

    @nyccarguy said:

    @qbrozen said:

    @breld said:

    For whatever it's worth, I sold my WRX to Vroom and the process went very smooth. So hopefully the payoff can get cleared up tomorrow and everything will proceed as expected.

    Went right past me that you sold that already.

    You aren’t the only one.

    Didn’t figure it was anything particularly interesting to anyone…knowing the Integra is due hopefully sometime this summer, I checked the usual buy options and vroom came in with a nice offer a bit more than I paid (but before taxes).

    Even with the tax savings on a trade, I figured it was worth taking the high offer to get ahead of it and not be subject to any lowball trade offers when they know I’m buying the Integra either way.

    So you paid tax, tags, and fees to drive it for a couple of weeks? How many miles did you even put on it?


    And you all wonder why I wasn’t quick to chat about the sale of the WRX. :)

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,271

    @kyfdx said:
    At the brewery cruise-in on Father's Day.. drove my new car. Maserati coupe backs in next to me, and pops his hood open, before heading inside.

    Unless I'm showing off my CD changer, that doesn't really add any appeal. :/

    Maybe he was just overheating 😂

  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,604

    Yay.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,985
    edited June 2023
    Yet another sign that Tesla will be the charging standard.

    @qbrozen - he had the WRX long enough for me to get some time behind the wheel!

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,604
    My original plan was to flip my R1S reservation once delivered, mostly because of the lack of charging when travelling. Now, I'll have to reconsider.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,261
    I'd rather take my chances with the Tesla charging network vs. the unreliable hodgepodge of DC fast chargers we currently have--often with only 1-2 of them at a single location.
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,710
    tifighter said:

    My original plan was to flip my R1S reservation once delivered, mostly because of the lack of charging when travelling. Now, I'll have to reconsider.

    I'm still holding onto my reservation, but doubt that I will pull the trigger. But since I can change my mind on a daily/weekly basis, figured no harm in keeping the reservation.

    You're on the early adopter pricing, right? That could work out well...at current pricing like I'll be at since I pulled the trigger on the R1T, don't think there will be any opportunity to flip.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,604
    breld said:

    tifighter said:

    My original plan was to flip my R1S reservation once delivered, mostly because of the lack of charging when travelling. Now, I'll have to reconsider.

    I'm still holding onto my reservation, but doubt that I will pull the trigger. But since I can change my mind on a daily/weekly basis, figured no harm in keeping the reservation.

    You're on the early adopter pricing, right? That could work out well...at current pricing like I'll be at since I pulled the trigger on the R1T, don't think there will be any opportunity to flip.
    I do still have the original pricing, yes. My original intent when I ordered it was to keep and drive it. When it became clear how much of a screw up CCS was, I figured I'd just flip, especially with that earlier pricing. The rumor is that Rivian is mostly caught up on R1T reservations, and will now focus production on the S. Last communication from them had me at a December-ish delivery. I think today's announcement will help sell more trucks, and retain more reservations.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,511
    Tesla network would make it more of a possibility for me certainly.

    I actually saw 2 different Rivian PUs driving around this weekend. Odd but interesting looking beasts. That front end is something, but the rest is attractive.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,710
    Something tells me Tesla drivers will not be thrilled at all with the network opening up.

    To be fair, I wouldn't be.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,604
    They're adding something like 4 stations a day YoY, so the pace to keep up is there. Most of my SC usage is on trips to rural eastern WA, eastern OR, ID, MT etc where the concentration is a little lower. Otherwise I charge almost always at home. If you are relying on the SC network to be your main charging source because you live in an apartment in the city, then yes, I'd guess those chargers will be very busy.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,604
    Supposedly there's a supercharger in Tacoma, where I live. I've never used it; in fact, I don't even know where it is.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,933

    @Michaell said:
    Yet another sign that Tesla will be the charging standard.

    @qbrozen - he had the WRX long enough for me to get some time behind the wheel!

    You probably put more miles on it than he did. You should pay half the hit. :D

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,511
    Sounds exciting. Have fun! Certainly polar opposite weather.

    I assume this means your hubby retired from fire fighting.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,788

    stickguy said:

    I shopped Honda/Acura ESPs recently and found the same thing. from a forum, some random dealer in Mass was selling for something like $100 over cost. way less than the Honda dealer my son and his finance got their CRV at (I also priced one for my RDX since I was considering that but never pulled the trigger).

    Whodathunkit? MA, the low cost state.
    Since MA has unlimited doc fees you could be in for a surprise at signing.
    Well, sometimes that really *is* the case.

    I have all of my EZPass units registered through M-DOT. Works everywhere, just like all the other states, but they don't charge me a monthly fee just to have the transponders in my cars. My argument when looking is that if I have to give them the money up front, why should they be charging me a monthly fee on top of that? Only Massachusetts agreed with me on that argument. :D
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,788
    edited June 2023
    @akangl That's a heck of a change! Maybe not a *polar* opposite (as that would require a move to, say, southern Argentina or New Zealand), but half-way there, anyway!

    If you're thinking you won't move until next summer, something tells me that you will be looking for wheels to satisfy your driving needs until the RV trip!

    Seriously, though, once you get back to AK, let me know if you do need something short term. I may be able to let you use my Q7 for that spell to save you the time, money, and effort of a buy.
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,788
    This talk about chargers got me to thinking that maybe I should consider setting up some sort of charger at the Ohio house. I don't recall seeing much in the way of public infrastructure in my area. I imagine there's probably a "charge share" app or something out there that would allow folks to use that sort of thing, and we just have that place sitting there most of the year with an empty driveway.

    I am going to look into upgrading our electric service drop (currently only 100A, which is hilariously insufficient for modern times) when we're down there this year, and something like this could maybe help folks out and net a tiny return, too.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,080
    akangl said:


    Now on to what we've been up to. Well I'm typing this while sitting in our room at a resort in Costa Rica. We close on our new home in 8 days. We won't be moving in right away because we want to wait until our daughter can move in to our place in Alaska so it doesn't sit vacant, so the house here will be an airbnb until we move next summer. We will do our RV trip before moving. We planned that for this summer but with all the things needed for the house closing it was easier to be in Costa Rica.

    Wow, that's really interesting. A few years ago I was visiting an old-car acquaintance and he was on a jag about Costa Rica being the place to move to and at the time seemed to be seriously considering it for himself and family. He had done a lot of research and thought he had it all figured out. He's still here last I heard so maybe that wasn't quite so, but he was certainly fired up about it. He was saying the health care is no worse and maybe better than here, that many things were cheaper, that it was safe as long as you picked the right community, etc etc. It still seemed like a mighty big and scary change, although living in Alaska would be that for me too. Best of luck!

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,304
    @xwesx,
    I have a NY EZPass. No monthly charge either. I've had it for a while.
    There are a only a little more than a dozen Tesla chargers in the Cleveland area, say 20 mile radius.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,933
    That is quite the move, that's for sure.
    We vacationed there once. Can't say it would entice me to move there. At least not where we were (west coast). I don't handle the heat well. Nor the bugs.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,604
    I have a close friend that bought a place in Belize. It was originally planned as a vacation home, but he loves it so much that he's now planning to go full-time.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,760
    We have friends with a house on the Pacific Ocean in Nicaragua. We actually vacationed there with another couple in 2015. Unfortunately, it is no longer safe for them to travel there.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,604
    For those that partake-

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,541
    xwesx said:

    stickguy said:

    I shopped Honda/Acura ESPs recently and found the same thing. from a forum, some random dealer in Mass was selling for something like $100 over cost. way less than the Honda dealer my son and his finance got their CRV at (I also priced one for my RDX since I was considering that but never pulled the trigger).

    Whodathunkit? MA, the low cost state.
    Since MA has unlimited doc fees you could be in for a surprise at signing.
    Well, sometimes that really *is* the case.

    I have all of my EZPass units registered through M-DOT. Works everywhere, just like all the other states, but they don't charge me a monthly fee just to have the transponders in my cars. My argument when looking is that if I have to give them the money up front, why should they be charging me a monthly fee on top of that? Only Massachusetts agreed with me on that argument. :D
    ————————————————
    PA doesn’t charge a monthly fee for the transponder either. At least I haven’t seen anything like that on my CC which is used to load the cost for using EZ Pass.

    Just last month I got hit with a $70 charge for use of EZ Pass. Since I’m now retired (Feb. 2015), and not using the PA Turnpike every day, I can’t remember the last time my CC got hit for EZ Pass use. I have a transponder in each car but I didn’t bother to check which one got hit.

    I should ask them if they have a “Senior Citizen Low Use Discount” but I suspect not.

    jmonroe
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,541
    stickguy said:

    My wife would die if she had to spend a summer in Florida.

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    So now we know why you’re keeping her in cold storage in upstate New York.

    jmonroe
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,080
    Speaking of auto loans, the delinquency rate is up to almost 1.7%, which is higher than even the 2009 recession level.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,511
    Repos will certainly help clear out the used car shortage!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,933

    Another brain surgeon using marketplace for his shopping needs.


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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,541
    stickguy said:

    Repos will certainly help clear out the used car shortage!

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    Just curious, how many folks would knowingly buy a repo?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,511
    I would not, but I don't think that brands the title so dealers are buying them at auction and throwing them on the lot without most buyers knowing.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,788
    edited June 2023
    jmonroe1 said:


    PA doesn’t charge a monthly fee for the transponder either. At least I haven’t seen anything like that on my CC which is used to load the cost for using EZ Pass.

    Just last month I got hit with a $70 charge for use of EZ Pass. Since I’m now retired (Feb. 2015), and not using the PA Turnpike every day, I can’t remember the last time my CC got hit for EZ Pass use. I have a transponder in each car but I didn’t bother to check which one got hit.

    I should ask them if they have a “Senior Citizen Low Use Discount” but I suspect not.

    jmonroe


    Hmm. That's not how they have the wording set up on the site. All of the states in the area note that there are monthly fees if the transponder isn't used over a period of time. Cheapest was $1/mo; PA was the most expensive one at $3/mo. At that price, I would spend more just having the unit than paying the tolls for the two months I'm using them.
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,788
    Hahah, Q. That's unbelievable! I have no idea what the guy was even trying to say 90% of the time!

    "Oh, $800? Okay, then I'll go $1,000!" .... "Uh, you do know that YOU'RE the one who's paying, right?!" :D
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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,788
    I wouldn't have any problem with *knowingly* buying a repo. I think the problem is what @stickguy noted: Most people don't knowingly buy them!
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,541
    xwesx said:

    Hahah, Q. That's unbelievable! I have no idea what the guy was even trying to say 90% of the time!

    "Oh, $800? Okay, then I'll go $1,000!" .... "Uh, you do know that YOU'RE the one who's paying, right?!" :D

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    I think it’s more basic than that. I don’t think he ever learned the first rule of bidding…namely, never over bid yourself.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,511
    good job. sounds like my last experience with Carvana. they lost track on their end and never got back to me about the title, since my situation was out of the ordinary for their SOPs and by the time I tracked them down offer had expired, but after some discussion they agreed it was their goof so they reinstated it. after that it all moved quick. Plus I dropped it off to get it done quicker, and avoid having to pay a pick up fee.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,385

    Welp - the ‘rona finally got me. Not surprising. Already on paxlovid since I’m immunocompromised. Seems to be working since I feel largely OK.

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  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,497

    @28firefighter said:
    Welp - the ‘rona finally got me. Not surprising. Already on paxlovid since I’m immunocompromised. Seems to be working since I feel largely OK.

    You should feel better soon. Suck on sweet or sour candies for the metallic taste you will have.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,645
    stickguy said:

    Repos will certainly help clear out the used car shortage!

    That’s if you want an abused horribly neglected car. I’ve watch a few of those auction videos and those are some rough units. Even the ones that the owner didn’t take a baseball bat to before the bank hauled it away.

    What I think will make a big difference is when the rental companies start selling off their old inventory. Our company is just starting to move out the old stuff that they bought during the pandemic. 60k miles was the cutoff point. Those are being sold to make room for a flood of new stuff.

    We still have a long way to go though. Currently our location has about 75 cars going to dealers. Per-Covid we had 750.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,645
    xwesx said:

    I wouldn't have any problem with *knowingly* buying a repo. I think the problem is what @stickguy noted: Most people don't knowingly buy them!

    Other than an honest seller is there any way you can determine that a car was a previous repo? I gotta tell you, that prospect worries me.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,604

    Welp - the ‘rona finally got me. Not surprising. Already on paxlovid since I’m immunocompromised. Seems to be working since I feel largely OK.

    Lame. I had this about 6 weeks ago when I came back from Morocco. Felt better in 4-5 days though. Nothing a drive in a convertible wouldn't help cure.

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  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,281
    stickguy said:

    Sounds exciting. Have fun! Certainly polar opposite weather.

    I assume this means your hubby retired from fire fighting.

    He retired in July of last year, mandatory retirement was 1/31/23 but he figured 34 years was enough and retired 6 months early.

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