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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,292
    I had a fender replaced on one of my cars after it was hit.
    Carfax didn't have it but Autocheck did.
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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,371
    breld said:

    Got to register my Q8 today, so I quickly got down to one temp plate! :)

    So I’m really curious about this…when I bought my 840i, CPO a few months ago, the dealership gave me a Carfax (had me sign it, in fact) that showed no accidents. It was dated the day of the sale. When I traded it for the Corvette, the Chevy dealership came back and said the carfax showed a minor accident and five owners (I thought I was the 3rd owner). That accident was from over a year ago.

    What gives?


    Sometimes it takes a while for something, be it an owner or accident, to hit. If it has had 5 owners there were some in quick succession that I guess the DMV and CarFax couldn’t keep up with.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,709
    Yeah, I’m more curious and just a bit aggravated. The Chevy dealer didn’t really ding me for it.

    The Carfax from the BMW dealer (physical copy, which now makes me wonder), showed 3 owners and no accident. The current Carfax now shows an Owner #4 prior to me, with a minor accident from a year ago.

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,371
    A few years ago a friend got a buy back from CarFax on a Fusion he bought from CarMax. Follow that? :D

    There was an accident that popped up within 30 days and he had them buy it back. Can’t for the life of me remember why he the CarFax was run again. He wasn’t trading it, seemed like it was in for a service and something popped up.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,524
    au1994 said:

    breld said:

    Got to register my Q8 today, so I quickly got down to one temp plate! :)

    So I’m really curious about this…when I bought my 840i, CPO a few months ago, the dealership gave me a Carfax (had me sign it, in fact) that showed no accidents. It was dated the day of the sale. When I traded it for the Corvette, the Chevy dealership came back and said the carfax showed a minor accident and five owners (I thought I was the 3rd owner). That accident was from over a year ago.

    What gives?


    Sometimes it takes a while for something, be it an owner or accident, to hit. If it has had 5 owners there were some in quick succession that I guess the DMV and CarFax couldn’t keep up with.
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    So, just like I thought…it’s a game and you play at your own risk. They always have an answer for anything weird. Who holds the bag? The guy playing at the time.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,374
    I bought a 7 month old BMW in 2003, that was a BMW corporate owned car, and had just gone through Manheim auction. Independent dealer in Chicago had it on eBay, and I bought it from him. Showed a clean carfax.

    Three months later, it has a ding on carfax, and my local BMW dealer pulled up their info, and it turns out it suffered $4000 in body damage, while BMW corporate owned it. That was probably disclosed at the auction, and was maybe why a BMW dealer didn't buy it.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,374

    Happened on our X1 dealer loaner. They never disclosed an accident to us. Carfax was clean. Fast forward 2.5 years to a couple times I thought about trading it and carfax showed a major accident during the loaner service. Entire front end, airbags, etc. reached out to the dealer and they confirmed it - no explanation for why it wasn’t disclosed.

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  • ventureventure Member Posts: 2,869
    breld said:

    Yeah, I’m more curious and just a bit aggravated. The Chevy dealer didn’t really ding me for it.

    The Carfax from the BMW dealer (physical copy, which now makes me wonder), showed 3 owners and no accident. The current Carfax now shows an Owner #4 prior to me, with a minor accident from a year ago.

    #4 wasn't the BMW dealer was it?

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,629
    mjfloyd1 said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    Saw this on FB corvette for sale and trade.. CPO 2023 C8 2LT with Z51 pkg and less than 2500 miles for 10k below MSRP

    https://www.timlally.com/certified/Chevrolet/2023-Chevrolet-Corvette-for-sale-Warrensville-Heights-OH-ec3e39170a0e094a6d3865bc44b0c7f7.htm

    I’ve always been confused by the 1LT, 2LT designation on Chevys. I assume they denote trim levels but what’s the difference? Is there a 3LT and why designate the performance package as Z51?
    2020 trim levels etc

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28413258/2020-chevrolet-corvette-c8-colors-trims-features/

    Wow, that explained it so good that I’m still confused but in a different way.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 6,952
    breld said:

    Yeah, I’m more curious and just a bit aggravated. The Chevy dealer didn’t really ding me for it.

    The Carfax from the BMW dealer (physical copy, which now makes me wonder), showed 3 owners and no accident. The current Carfax now shows an Owner #4 prior to me, with a minor accident from a year ago.

    Do you have a copy of the signed CarFax to show the dealer? I would be ticked.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,886
    edited November 2023

    I’m not 100% sure but I’d wager there is a clause in the contract that says something like “dealer XYZ is not responsible for errors or omissions in third party vehicle history reports”

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,255

    And sometimes repair facilities report info incorrectly. My Volt has a service in its CarFax history that was obviously reported on the wrong date.

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,775
    That's hilarious, even though I really prefer long beds. :D
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,629
    corvette said:

    That’s my kind of long bed.😃

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,524
    corvette said:

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    Now there’s a truck that can afford more cab space. :o Pretty good job of photoshoping though.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,629
    edited November 2023
    A happy Thanksgiving to all and a belated happy Thanksgiving to our Canadian friends. I’m getting a free meal from the in-laws today so that’s a reason to celebrate.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,255
    Happy Turkey Day, everyone!

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,407

    @tjc78 - looks great! Does it roll up or come off? Where’d you get it from?

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,886
    edited November 2023

    @nyccarguy said:
    @tjc78 - looks great! Does it roll up or come off? Where’d you get it from?

    Thanks!

    It is a tri fold and has straps that secure it near the back window if you want to leave it open to haul something large.

    A little easier to operate than a roll up one. Tradeoff is you lose space at the head of the bed. Non issue for me as I don’t ever haul anything that big… plus it would only take 5 mins to take off if needed.

    I bought it from Amazon, but you can buy from Leer direct too.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,524
    tjc78 said:

    Happy Thanksgiving all!

    Installed my bed cover this morning. I didn’t hurt myself or break anything so I’ll call it a win.

    I think it took longer to open the box and get it out safely than to install it.

    It looks a touch lumpy but once it stretches out and gets some sun will lay perfectly.


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    Looks good. Good luck with your plan.

    If the sun can work wonders like that I’m not putting the chaise lounge away this Winter. In fact, I may never put it away.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,709
    sda said:

    breld said:

    Yeah, I’m more curious and just a bit aggravated. The Chevy dealer didn’t really ding me for it.

    The Carfax from the BMW dealer (physical copy, which now makes me wonder), showed 3 owners and no accident. The current Carfax now shows an Owner #4 prior to me, with a minor accident from a year ago.

    Do you have a copy of the signed CarFax to show the dealer? I would be ticked.
    I do - my guess is me signing it is to protect them more than anything. It demonstrates there was a clean Carfax at the time of purchase.

    I sent a kindly worded email to the manager I worked with to ask how that can happen, just for my own benefit. I’m curious what the response will be (if there is one at all), but I fully suspect it will be boiler plate, “things can appear on the Carfax long after an incident occurs…”

    It’s all good…lesson learned. And I really like the Corvette. :)

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,292
    I looked at a few Carfax reports and the latest entry is one showing the vehicle for sale at the dealer it is currently up for sale at.
    Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,629
    tjc78 said:

    Happy Thanksgiving all!

    Installed my bed cover this morning. I didn’t hurt myself or break anything so I’ll call it a win.

    I think it took longer to open the box and get it out safely than to install it.

    It looks a touch lumpy but once it stretches out and gets some sun will lay perfectly.


    Very nice.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,336
    I'm going to price the 2009 328i at $4k; it has a dent on the LF fender and needs a thorough detail, but at 125k miles it runs great with no CELs.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,255
    @roadburner - that price seems low, but I haven't looked at anything similar lately. And I guess it is 15 model years old at this point.
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,374

    I think that’s low, @roadburner.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,920

    @roadburner said:
    I'm going to price the 2009 328i at $4k; it has a dent on the LF fender and needs a thorough detail, but at 125k miles it runs great with no CELs.

    Automatic sedan? I would price it at 4995 so someone can talk it down to 4000. 4k is fair for its needs but everyone wants to bargain a deal.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,600

    @breld said:
    I do - my guess is me signing it is to protect them more than anything. It demonstrates there was a clean Carfax at the time of purchase.

    I sent a kindly worded email to the manager I worked with to ask how that can happen, just for my own benefit. I’m curious what the response will be (if there is one at all), but I fully suspect it will be boiler plate, “things can appear on the Carfax long after an incident occurs…”

    It’s all good…lesson learned. And I really like the Corvette. :)

    We need pictures. Of the new car, not the carfax.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,292
    2009 BMW 328i with rare NASCAR left front fender aero upgrade for sale. B)
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,524
    au1994 said:

    Happy Thanksgiving all. Carcass picked clean, nap is eminent.

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    That must have been a smallish bird.

    We always had something left over for sandwiches and a couple drumsticks that no one seemed to want. So, years ago Mrs. j said, “it’s a shame to just throw those away. There must be something I can make with those”. That’s when she decided to use the drumsticks for turkey ala king. That is so much better than chicken ala king. One of her best ideas.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,292
    We went to my SIL's parents yesterday. They cooked 3 turkeys, each one different.
    10 adults and 2 kids but can't imagine how much is left over, guessing a lot.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,524
    au1994 said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    au1994 said:

    Happy Thanksgiving all. Carcass picked clean, nap is eminent.

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    That must have been a smallish bird.

    We always had something left over for sandwiches and a couple drumsticks that no one seemed to want. So, years ago Mrs. j said, “it’s a shame to just throw those away. There must be something I can make with those”. That’s when she decided to use the drumsticks for turkey ala king. That is so much better than chicken ala king. One of her best ideas.

    jmonroe
    I have a 5’10” 200lb gym rat/lacrosse player. We are lucky he doesn’t eat us.
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    I had 2 of those once and they went off to school too. Why do you think I worked as a consultant for a few years after I retired? :'(

    jmonroe
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,524

    We went to my SIL's parents yesterday. They cooked 3 turkeys, each one different.
    10 adults and 2 kids but can't imagine how much is left over, guessing a lot.

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    I agree, that’s a lot of food for 12 people. I really like Thanksgiving. Best food of the year. Where does that family live? I think I can find my after hours lock-picking tools.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,336
    I took my son to the airport today (he had to get back for the South Carolina-Clemson game) in the C43. There's an entertaining double apex decreasing-radius on-ramp on the way. After I clipped the second apex I nailed the throttle. The handling is dead neutral with absolutely no drama- it just goes. The only downside to this handling capability is akin to an issue I saw at track events when the E36 M3 was new; the limits are so high that if you do lose it you likely won't be able to catch it.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,886

    I took an on ramp pretty fast in the EQ the other day. My son noticed and said I was way over the limit posted for the ramp. Luckily he didn’t tell his mother!

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,629
    I thought this would be interesting to those who hate LLCs.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/vk9ujw4wsec?si=WJcDIGXORRsCxJs9

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,524

    I thought this would be interesting to those who hate LLCs.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/vk9ujw4wsec?si=WJcDIGXORRsCxJs9

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    I don’t know who’s worse, the LLC or the cop sucking up tax dollars and not giving the LLC a ticket.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,067
    I'm not sure what that had to do with Limited Liability Companies.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,336
    tjc78 said:

    I took an on ramp pretty fast in the EQ the other day. My son noticed and said I was way over the limit posted for the ramp. Luckily he didn’t tell his mother!

    When I take a corner "briskly" my wife rarely looks up from he Kindle. The only thing she doesn't like is my participation in the Stoplight Grand Prix. My son knows not to mention those escapades.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,629
    ab348 said:

    I'm not sure what that had to do with Limited Liability Companies.

    The truck and trailer were obviously a business.😂😂😂😂

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