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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,710

    Getting ready to car shop soon. Once we stop spending on nonsense like upgrade toilet paper holders.

    I priced out a garage to put it in.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,710

    Anyone know what a 14x26 garage slab should reasonably cost these days?

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,005
    tifighter said:

    This is a great car-

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991-bmw-325ix-30

    And will be a great barometer of Covid vs post-Covid BaT.

    Very small subset of E30 buyers would consider an AWD model.

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    nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,488
    @venture

    Congrats & Best of luck to you with the new Legacy! Not too often you get to hit the reset button with the same car/color combination. How are you feeling? A punch is a punch!

    Speaking of, our president & CEO @breld has been unusually quiet as of late.

    @corvette

    What is the 2024 Punch Count so far?

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    tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,614

    @kyfdx said:
    Very small subset of E30 buyers would consider an AWD model.

    Yes. But I think an E30 coupe iX manual is always an exception. Low volume when new, few remain, very few without 200k miles.

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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,157
    stickguy said:

    Anyone know what a 14x26 garage slab should reasonably cost these days?

    Geez, you're the guy getting a house built. I figured you'd have 3 quotes for that already in hand so it would be ready on move-in day. :p

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,005
    stickguy said:

    Anyone know what a 14x26 garage slab should reasonably cost these days?

    Mine was 24x40 and they priced it at $7200, not including the base stone. I can't find the receipt for that, but it wasn't expensive. I want to say maybe $600-$800?

    Description of slab was: 4" concrete floor, expansion joints, fiber mesh, 3500 PSI. Customer supplies 4" stone base. Concrete crew spreads stone. Extra concrete or extra grading is extra charge.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,710

    So looks like a tick over $8/sf. At my size looks to be about $3k. I was guesstimating $2,500 for a little bit smaller footprint so this feels right.

    The one place I am using to get a reality check estimate includes everything other than the slab and I assume electric.

    I need to find a few local builder types to quote on it once the house is done.

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    jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,652
    qbrozen said:

    stickguy said:

    Anyone know what a 14x26 garage slab should reasonably cost these days?

    Mine was 24x40 and they priced it at $7200, not including the base stone. I can't find the receipt for that, but it wasn't expensive. I want to say maybe $600-$800?

    Description of slab was: 4" concrete floor, expansion joints, fiber mesh, 3500 PSI. Customer supplies 4" stone base. Concrete crew spreads stone. Extra concrete or extra grading is extra charge.
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    I’m surprised your concrete strength is only 3500 psi. I always heard 4000 psi concrete is recommended for commercial applications, especially when you’re bolting a car lift to the floor.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,005

    @jmonroe1 said:
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    I’m surprised your concrete strength is only 3500 psi. I always heard 4000 psi concrete is recommended for commercial applications, especially when you’re bolting a car lift to the floor.

    jmonroe

    I didn’t put one into the new garage. We discussed the possibility and it was suggested it would be easier to reinforce just where the pillars would go. By the time we got to that point, money was tight and I just couldn’t be bothered to figure it out. If/when the time comes, I figure it ain’t a big deal to cut out some bits and redo them.

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    xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,828
    venture said:

    tjc78 said:

    Mine was cheap. I think it was under $200. You certainly could not walk on it.

    Yours is very nice looking.
    My father's truck as a similar unit... about ten years old at this point, and it is looking very tired. Probably still worth the price and effort of install, though.
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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,761
    stickguy said:

    Anyone know what a 14x26 garage slab should reasonably cost these days?

    Are the footings already laid? That’s what’s going to cost you. I built a 16’x24’ pole barn using a post hole digger to put in a bunch of concrete piers to 42”. It was pretty cheap.

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    xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,828
    edited April 30
    Slab-on-grade is a thing these days, so I'm not sure a garage would even need footings (depends on jurisdiction); some slab-on-grade codes require monolithic pours that include a shallow footing.

    Either way, I don't know that I would price a smaller size at scale with what Q noted for his slab, as it isn't typically a straight line. The company's costs are weighted heavily toward the front, so maybe $7,500 for 24x40, but likely still $4-5K for 14x26. I'd be really surprised if you can get a $2,500-3K quote and, frankly, I'd be a bit leery of the quality of work you can expect.
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    xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,828
    edited April 30
    venture said:

    This looks familiar.

    Very much like the one the guy smashed up. Only minor option differences.

    Nice, @venture ! Did you name it Rudolf?
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    explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,407
    @xwesx,
    After your comment, I came up with Lazareth. :)
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    ventureventure Member Posts: 2,917
    nyccarguy said:

    @venture

    Congrats & Best of luck to you with the new Legacy! Not too often you get to hit the reset button with the same car/color combination. How are you feeling? A punch is a punch!

    Speaking of, our president & CEO @breld has been unusually quiet as of late.

    @corvette

    What is the 2024 Punch Count so far?

    I'm getting over a few bumps. nothing major.

    I was surprised they had it sitting on their lot. Getting in and driving it felt better than I thought it would. The 2.4 turbo doesn't hurt!

    After driving the Outback for a week, it confirmed that I'm not a SUV guy. As much as I tried to like it, I just couldn't.

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    ventureventure Member Posts: 2,917
    xwesx said:

    venture said:

    This looks familiar.

    Very much like the one the guy smashed up. Only minor option differences.

    Nice, @venture ! Did you name it Rudolf?
    I don't think I have ever named a car, but I get it. :)

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,710
    I sometimes watched the Ken's Karpentry youtube channel. He built garages in Vermont. They always just did a slab on the grade without footings.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,005
    oldfarmer50 said:

    stickguy said:

    Anyone know what a 14x26 garage slab should reasonably cost these days?

    Are the footings already laid? That’s what’s going to cost you. I built a 16’x24’ pole barn using a post hole digger to put in a bunch of concrete piers to 42”. It was pretty cheap.
    I seriously don't know what that means. I think the post below yours sounds right. They just leveled the area, put boards all around the outside, leveled out blue stone, then poured concrete on top.

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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,761
    xwesx said:

    Slab-on-grade is a thing these days, so I'm not sure a garage would even need footings (depends on jurisdiction); some slab-on-grade codes require monolithic pours that include a shallow footing.

    Either way, I don't know that I would price a smaller size at scale with what Q noted for his slab, as it isn't typically a straight line. The company's costs are weighted heavily toward the front, so maybe $7,500 for 24x40, but likely still $4-5K for 14x26. I'd be really surprised if you can get a $2,500-3K quote and, frankly, I'd be a bit leery of the quality of work you can expect.

    I admit my construction experience is over 40 years old so I may not be up on things but I didn’t know you could pour on grade in a frost area. Maybe a plain slab like a patio but for a structure the chance of heaving would make that dangerous I would think.

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    corvettecorvette Member Posts: 10,297
    To whomever asked, I think we've had only eight punches so far this year.
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,710
    If I was not otherwise occupied with going broke on houses, I would be out shopping. still kicking myself for not snapping up the killer Ridgeline trailsport lease. Could have gotten a nice utility trailer to go with it.

    just don't ask me why I needed one. It was really just a cash flow scheme!

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,710
    I did start 3rd base coaching this weekend with my daughter. Her Mazda lease turns 2 in June, so she will be needing something to replace it next summer. and currently has a plan afoot to move out by us next May when their lease runs out in Boston. But we shall see.

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    roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,425
    edited April 30
    tifighter said:

    @kyfdx said:

    Very small subset of E30 buyers would consider an AWD model.

    Yes. But I think an E30 coupe iX manual is always an exception. Low volume when new, few remain, very few without 200k miles.


    I preferred the ix to later AWD Bimmers. I was navigator in one of Satch Carlson's Dinan modded ix coupes in the Arizona 1000 Rally back in 2007. We were doing pretty good until we hit a very big rock...

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    jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,652
    venture said:

    xwesx said:

    venture said:

    This looks familiar.

    Very much like the one the guy smashed up. Only minor option differences.

    Nice, @venture ! Did you name it Rudolf?
    I don't think I have ever named a car, but I get it. :)
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    Try as I might, I still don’t get it.

    jmonroe
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    tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,614

    @corvette said:
    To whomever asked, I think we've had only eight punches so far this year.

    I made the Elite Eight!

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    28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,413

    Me too. I feel like we’re slow this year.

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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,807
    @breld is locked into leases with both the e-Tron and Tesla, and, honestly, where do you go from a Corvette as your "fun" car?

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    28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,413

    Wherever our heart desires? I’m sure any of us can pretty well logic our way into anything that others may perceive as trading up, down, or sideways.

    In other news, my wife told me she prefers driving the Audi. Still trying to pick myself up off the floor from that comment…Guess I’ll be driving the Tesla more along with the BMW?

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    ventureventure Member Posts: 2,917
    jmonroe1 said:

    venture said:

    xwesx said:

    venture said:

    This looks familiar.

    Very much like the one the guy smashed up. Only minor option differences.

    Nice, @venture ! Did you name it Rudolf?
    I don't think I have ever named a car, but I get it. :)
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    Try as I might, I still don’t get it.

    jmonroe
    See the red nose on the Legacy.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,005

    I’ve had at least 2, haven’t I? Even if not counting the Toyota for resale, I got the GMC and the incoming Alfa. I don’t think I’m responsible for 25% of the punches, right?

    And, yeah… @breld is really slacking. How long has it been?

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,005
    @nyccarguy
    @pensfan83

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-honda-prelude-14/

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    pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,578

    Haha, I was literally just coming here to post that very same link and say that I'll be watching that with interest.

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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,761
    qbrozen said:

    I’ve had at least 2, haven’t I? Even if not counting the Toyota for resale, I got the GMC and the incoming Alfa. I don’t think I’m responsible for 25% of the punches, right?

    And, yeah… @breld is really slacking. How long has it been?

    Are we counting used vehicle purchases?

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    au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,403
    oldfarmer50 said:

    qbrozen said:

    I’ve had at least 2, haven’t I? Even if not counting the Toyota for resale, I got the GMC and the incoming Alfa. I don’t think I’m responsible for 25% of the punches, right?

    And, yeah… @breld is really slacking. How long has it been?

    Are we counting used vehicle purchases?

    of course!

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    jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,652
    venture said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    venture said:

    xwesx said:

    venture said:

    This looks familiar.

    Very much like the one the guy smashed up. Only minor option differences.

    Nice, @venture ! Did you name it Rudolf?
    I don't think I have ever named a car, but I get it. :)
    ————————————————-
    Try as I might, I still don’t get it.

    jmonroe
    See the red nose on the Legacy.
    ————————————————
    Man, that’s really reaching.

    jmonroe
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    ventureventure Member Posts: 2,917
    jmonroe1 said:

    venture said:

    jmonroe1 said:

    venture said:

    xwesx said:

    venture said:

    This looks familiar.

    Very much like the one the guy smashed up. Only minor option differences.

    Nice, @venture ! Did you name it Rudolf?
    I don't think I have ever named a car, but I get it. :)
    ————————————————-
    Try as I might, I still don’t get it.

    jmonroe
    See the red nose on the Legacy.
    ————————————————
    Man, that’s really reaching.

    jmonroe
    Hey! I didn't make it up. I just got the reference. :#

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    xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,828
    stickguy said:

    I did start 3rd base coaching this weekend with my daughter. Her Mazda lease turns 2 in June, so she will be needing something to replace it next summer. and currently has a plan afoot to move out by us next May when their lease runs out in Boston. But we shall see.

    I hope it works out for her. Quality of life will be 1,000x better than the city.
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    xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 16,828
    venture said:

    jmonroe1 said:


    Man, that’s really reaching.

    jmonroe

    Hey! I didn't make it up. I just got the reference. :#
    Reaching?! Come on....! I know it isn't the right time of year, but a red nose is a red nose....
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    jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,652
    xwesx said:

    venture said:

    jmonroe1 said:


    Man, that’s really reaching.

    jmonroe

    Hey! I didn't make it up. I just got the reference. :#
    Reaching?! Come on....! I know it isn't the right time of year, but a red nose is a red nose....
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    Where I come from a red nose at anytime of the year would yield the question, “what does the other guy look like?” :|

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    jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,652
    roadburner said:

    My wife keeps reminding me that I have to pack them up and take them home in 8 months, but I can't help myself...

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    I’m pretty sure your wife could recruit a few in here but there’s no guarantee that all of them will get to their intended spot at your home. :'(

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    explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,407
    Q should keep his eye out for one of these.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FraefP2bdaU
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,807
    Member seeks advice about oil change intervals

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,243
    roadburner said:

    My wife keeps reminding me that I have to pack them up and take them home in 8 months, but I can't help myself...

    Wow, you really got into MBs. I see that Matchbox fintail too.
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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,157
    Interesting comparison of hybrid sedans by Edmunds. It's clear that the Hyundai is subpar, but the Honda fanboys will go for the Accord, and the Toytoa fanboys can go for the Camry, both without reservation.

    https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/honda-accord-hyundai-sonata-toyota-camry-three-way-comparison.html

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    roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,425
    You can really see the difference the ambient temperature makes with an EV or PHEV; In winter my electric range on the 4xe is 22 to 23 miles. Now with temps in the 80s it will go 29 to 30 miles in EV mode.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,005

    @explorerx4 said:
    Q should keep his eye out for one of these.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FraefP2bdaU

    Believe me, in 2030, when they are legal for import, I will.

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    au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,403
    28firefighter said:

    Me too. I feel like we’re slow this year.

    I’ll have one. Unless we hit the lottery, thats it for me.

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