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I hope Hyundai does, too, especially in the SUVs.
Word has it diesel options should arrive soon, as with a lot of other automakers around the end of the decade, such as Honda you mentioned. I hear the first one would be in the Veracruz. I'd root for Hyundai (and other makers) to bring their whole diesel lineups to the states
Hate to see folks waste $ and petroleum products if it's not necessary. People should really read their owners manual.
The Sandman
And yes, I did read the owner's manual front to back the day after I purchased the car. FYI, page 5-6 states that oil should be changed every 3,000 miles or 3 months for Schedule B, and every vehicle in my area automatically classifies as Schedule B.
I'd rather not get in an argument with Hyundai regarding the merits of synthetic oil should I have a motor failure between now and 8 years later or 100,000 miles, so I stick with their interval recommendations and rest easy. It's cheap insurance. Oh, and I work in the oil industry
-Ty
If you plan on keeping the car well beyond 150,000 miles, synthetic could possibly be beneficial. That's where dino oil related wear begins to show up.
automatic, that I purchased new about 3 months ago.
I now have 9000 miles on this car.
I am currently experiencing a problem with a
vibration that occurs between 45 mph and 50 mph.
This problem occurs when in full automatic mode
and when applying slight pressure on the accelerator.
When I am shifting the transmission myself and am in 4th gear, this problem does not occur.
I have had the car into the dealer that I purchased it
from. They have test driven the car and do recognize
that the vibration does occur, but they say there is
nothing they can do
They say this occurs when the torque convertor is
trying to go into some sort of lockup or something,
and that this acts as an overdrive to aid gas mileage.
However, they say they have nothing from Hyundai to
fix the situation and that I must contact Hyundai
directly. When I am shifting the transmission myself,
they say this shift to "overdrive" does not occur and
consequently no problem. They indicate that all the
Sonata GLS,s with automatic have this same problem.
My Dealer refuses to get involved even though I spoke
a couple of times with the Service Manager and also
the dealership General Manager.
I have not yet contacted Hyundai directly but am
wondering if anyone else has this type of problem with
a Hyundai GLS 4 cylinder with automatic.
Actually, it's 42 volt systems that are under testing now, to accomodate all the electrical toys that are on cars.
Maybe the dealer, after screwing up, will feel obligated to be extra nice to you?
While I think this is a good step for Hyundai, I will be sad not to be able to rent Hyundais like the Sonata. I just got a Sonata V6 last week on a long-distance business trip, and it was a pleasant travel companion.
Do you have to unbolt it
Can not seem to figure it out.
The Sonata antenna is near the rear defroster wires (probably just above then like typical vehicles)
jt
In May of 2007 I purchased two Hyundai Sonatas. One is the Limited, 6 cyl, automatic. The second is a GLS 4 cyl automatic.
The Limited seems fine to-date. but I have a continuing problem with the GLS.
At a constant speed betwen 45 mph and 50 mph I experience a vibration problem. This seems to emanate in the transmission.
At the first oil change I reported this problem to my Hyundai dealer service, Had them take a test drive with me, and the Tech said this seemed to come from the torque converter. The service manager said the same, but said they had no error codes and nothing from Hyundai on this problem. He said there was nothing they could do. He did say however it was good I reported it as they may come up with something in the future and this way I am on record.
I was told by the dealership general manager that they do not carry customer problems to Hyundai and that I would have to call Hyundai Customer Service myself. In other words, the dealer bowed out.
I did call Hyundai and talked to a phone rep named Nick. He said he would contact the dealer and get back to me. After not hearing from him for about a week, I called again and Nick was busy but I got the message that he had called the wrong dealer. I gave Customer service the correct dealer again.
After another week went by, I called Nick again and was told he couldn't contact me because he was calling the wrong number
I then asked to talk to a Supervisor. Two days later a Hyundai supervisor did call me and said he would look into it but it could take a couple of weeks.
One week later the dealer service manager called me and said a Factory Rep was in and "would I like to bring my car in?"
I did, and subsequently went for a test drive with the Factory rep and the Service Manager.
When I experienced the vibration I asked the Rep if he could feel the same and he said he felt nothing. I asked the Service Manager (who had previously experienced it) and He said, "I don't know , I was looking at the tach"
To make a long story short , the Factory Rep said "Are you talking about the torque converter lockup? Thats normal".
From that point on, the Factory Rep would only repeat that it was performing to company standards and that it is no different that any other Hyundai 4 cylinder.
So bottom line, I have a 2007 Hyundai GLS 4 cyl, automatic that has a vibration problem between 45 mph and 50 mph. It is such that people riding with me have asked what that is?
Also, it is something that Hyundai will not admit is a problem and will do nothing.
I don't know if this problem is unique to my GLs. If so than the Hyundai rep wasn't being honest with me.
If this problem occurs in all 2007 Hyundai GLS's then Hyundai has a problem they're not addressing.
In any case, after buying two 2007 Sonatas based in large part on their warranty claims, I feel like I made a mistake. Based on this experience I will never purchase another Hyundai product.
One way to find out is to ask your dealer or another dealer to let you test drive a 2007 GLS and see if it does the same thing.
However, I know some other owners were mentioning a vibraion or shudder at that specific speed. And most were actually V6 owners. And yes, the culprit seems to be the torque converter lockup, when apparently the car shifts to overdrive prematurely. This has been addressed in other Sonata boards I frequent, and I'm trying to find out if there was any resolution to the problem. Stay tuned.
But whatever the results, please consider the fact that this is not necessarily a "Hyundai" issue, but MANY other cars have it. I read quite a few of the new Civic owners discussing the same issue...
I hear your frustration in your post. You might try a tranny flush at your expense if it bothers you as much as it sounds. My Mustang did the same thing and a flush fixed it. I know you think Hyundai should pay for it but if it was my car I would try it.
That's all I can suggest.
Craig
That's why I support the idea of test driving another comparable car. It may be typical part of the design of the car, but it may as well be an anomaly typical to only YOUR car (and a few others who've been complaining)... I, for example, am quite attentive to my car's ('06 I-4 GLS) sounds and behavior, and have never noticed anything different at 40-45mph...
So go back to your dealer and challenge him. If the claim is that this is normal, then you want to have the chance to test it on another car... (Sure a better idea than spending some $150 on a tranny flush, when it's practically a new one.)
Please keep us posted, gandb.
Oh well, I only paid $20,000 for this car so I guess I shouldn't expect everything to work well.
By the way targettuning. do you have any association with Hyundai?
Yeah, you should expect things to work right (and they MAY be working right but you'll never know )...and finally do I have any association with Hyundai? Nope, except I've owned three (additionally my daughter owns one) and have been nothing but pleased. Oh, on our second Santa Fe the digital clock display periodically went blank then returned, it was replaced under warranty. Our 2000 Elantra currently has 172,000+ miles and my son's commute is adding 100 miles a day to that total. It has had an alternator fail @ around 150,000 miles and aside from routine items that's it. I like Hyundai cars a damn site better than the current Honda Civic we own (an 2006 EX sedan) so maybe you're asking the wrong person.
My suggestion for a tranny flush was ,and I should have stated, a last ditch effort to correct the problem.
Ganb,
Please keep us advised on the outcome of this.
Our local Hyundai dealer is absolutely fantastic, and they will contact Hyundai Service on a customer's behalf. Frankly, this sounds like it may be dealer-oriented problem, especially since they stated their policy is to not initiate contact with Hyundai directly.
I didn't buy our Hyundai from our local dealer, but they treat me like royalty, as if I paid top dollar from their sales department. Don't automatically trash Hyundai, as you have an excellent warranty and plenty of dealers to choose from.
And, only $20,000 dollars . . . I guess you have far more disposable income than I do, as I consider $20K as not disposable pocket change. Continue to work on the problem with your dealer, or another dealer, and I'm sure all will work out fine.
Although I'm sure you've checked, wheel balance (or, more specifically imbalance) can appear as a somewhat similar shudder. And, wheel imbalance is most noticeable within the speed range you specified.
Good luck.
...I called Hyundai, and called them again, and finally got in touch with their regional manager who simply offered me to try another dealer... I asked him to give me a name of a dealer he'd recommend, and he gave me a name of one 45 minutes away, and even called the manager there to let him know I'm about to call.
...Within 5 minutes of test-driving my car, the manager there was able to locate the source of the noise, and a week later a part (Power Steering pump) was replaced and the whining was gone.
I'm also impressed with the idea of the AF level as the culprit.... Interesting... I hope gandb checks into it too, and reports back...
Yes, vibrations at 40-45mph coming not from the transmission but from the wheels is something that I've read about in the past (here too, I think)... Maybe a good way to check this is shifting to Neutral while maintaining the speed range and the vibrations occuring. If you still feel the vibrations, obviously it's not originating in the transmission...
One other idea I've read in another Sonata board (alas, the moderator here forbids us to post links to "competing" boards), is trying an ECU (computer) update.... He claims this has helped him significantly, mostly with the way his transmission behaved. Worth a try, I'd say.
Hope we are helping here. Keep us posted, gandb777.
What ever happened to the "my car sounds like a diesel now" that you experienced a month or so ago? Anything happen there?