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How does the new unit compare with the factory one, especially on AM and FM? Do you notice any better/worse sensitivity (i.e., distance reception) or multipath distortion ? Or do you not listen to AM or FM anymore?
Also, I've never heard of Metra. What kind of a warranty did it come with?
test drive). However it has to be a very long
test drive. I drove twenty miles, and it was
fine. It only becomes very uncomfortable after
about 50 miles. Word to the wise.
I'd rather have the rattle, and have a comfortable
seat. A rattle doesn't hurt, or make it hard to walk
on getting out of the car after a 60 mile ride.
Since the cars in the showroom do not have their security system armed, the light would not blink. About cars on dealers' lots, I don't know...maybe the security system isn't turned on.
To check this out, all one needs to do is get out of the car and walk away without using the remote to lock the car.
What kind of mileage did you get? Maybe the Canadian
seats are different, hey?
By the way the pump was faulty and was replaced, and as mentioned I took it back to service, now there is a leak from somewhere around the pump. Waiting to get called once the part to be replaced will arrive.
FIRST, an apology for the length! On an earlier post #2836 I described an offer that I was given from Fitzgerald in Maryland. Well, I decided to wait. I know that they still have the same sale going on. But, since I am here in Erie, PA, I decided to look at the local Hyundai dealer (Hallman's Hyundai). They told me that the rebates are probably going to disappear after December...
Backy (and others), is this just a ploy to get me to buy this month before the end of the year? Or is this a genuine possibility? Again, as stated previously, I was going to wait until spring... It was an amazing test drive by the way. You have to love the heated leather seats here in the cold Erie winters. This is definitely my car! Anyway, considering the rebates, I could get a Steel Gray Sonata LX with package 3 for ~$20,000 (including $2,000 rebate - $1,000 financing and $1,000 LX rebate) and a $400 college graduate rebate from Fitzgerald. Should I offer around $19,000 from the local dealer?? Or is that too low? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Again sorry for the length. Thanks!
docjosh
I happened to do an inventory check on my local Hyundai dealer yesterday and saw they had tons of '06 Sonatas in stock--most of them loaded V6s. So personally I don't see the rebates going away in January. But will they change, up or down? Who knows! Why not take advantage of your dealer's eagerness to make a year-end deal and buy one now, or at least before year-end? Then you can use those heated seats all winter.
They said they woould never match Fitzgerald prices.
I see now they are advertising GLS V6 for 500 over
what I paid. Since they usually have lowest prices
in their ads, I don't think you can get them to move very much. It's worth a try. Tell them to match Fitz,
or you'll go there. And if they don't, go there.
Another possibility, a little closer, is Cochrans (sp?)
in Pittsburgh, who will match Fitz internet prices.
If you buy from Hallman's note my previous posts about
not paying for etching or any of their vast array of addons. Oh, I would buy now if I were you, and get
all the rebates I could. Some may stay, but some
might go, so why take the chance?
comes on immediately after you take key out of
ignition.
in Pittsburgh, who will match Fitz internet prices.
docjosh,
FWIW, I was toying around with the idea of replacing my wife's 04 Sonata LX with an 06 Sonata LX and contacted Cochrans a few weeks ago. They shot me back an internet quote of $22500($24895 msrp) for a Sonata LX with the premium package (sunroof, cd changer) before any applicable rebates and TTL. Might be worth your while to include them in your search.
NHTS
Last week I took the Sonata to our local dealer and one of the service managers road with me while stopping and going.
He heard the whirling noise and said he would call Hyundai. Needless to say he didn't call them so I called Hyundai Consumer Affairs. A couple of days ago we took the Sonata back in so the Hyundai District parts manager could take a drive and listen to the noise. There were three individuals in the vehicle. The Hyundai Parts Mgr said he didn't hear a thing and had the dealer write on the service sheet that the vehicle was safe to drive.
I talked to the dealership service personnel and asked that they have the Hyundai Parts Mgr call me. When he called he informed me that he was unable to duplicate the noice, but one of the other individuals did hear it a couple of times. I told him we didn't want to be driving around with a transmission that's making that kind of noise and that it may not be safe.
He then told me that we would be biting off more than we could chew if the transmission was replaced. He stated that if the transmission was replaced it would be with a rebuilt transmission and all auto makers do that. So I asked him if that meant he would not take care of our transmission and he said he thought it was best to leave it like it is. He said no warranty work was required.
I guess we'll be switching over to a Honda or Toyota. I haven't heard anything bad about them taking care of their warranty work when needed.
He is full of it... The 2006 Shiftronic is a brand new 5 speed transmission this year; and I don't think they have too many rebuilt transmissions lying around! At least not yet!
May be it would be better to deal with Hyundai directly or with a different dealer!
I understand your frustration for wanting to switch to a different car... but you should talk to the dealer's management; and tell them that they will be loosing a customer because of the help they have ( Parts Manager!)... and that you will not hesitate to invoke the "lemon law" if need be (taking the car in for service 3 times!)- just make sure you have paper trail records to prove it ... (write ups when you take it in).
The same problem could happen with a different brand... It's how they solve it which makes the difference! You don't have to take the word of the bully you dealt with!
Ask how long he has been a manager!
PS: The new 2006 5-speed transmission is known to have some problems and/or in need of a tune up: specially on hilly terrain where the transmission keeps downshifting back and forth (what some pros call: Tranny fishing!)
Amen! I guess there are some people that can't be pleased at all. Luckily I am not having either of these problems but there is no doubt that the new Sonata is by far the best vehicle value on the planet. If a friggin rattle is so important and such a show stopper go ahead and pay $7000 more to get an accord with the same features or even more for a Lexus. I like my new Sonata(06) more every time I drive it and will continue to recommend it to anyone looking for a new vehicle in its class(been recommending Sonata's since we bought an '05 back in April).
like the seat and has a rattle too.
According to an ASE certified Hyundai tech who used to frequent another Hyundai forum, some previous Hyundai differentials had a bit too much "play" in the differential gear lash adjustment and developed a whirring sound such as you described. If your noise is the same thing, though annoying, it's not an issue of reliability. My '03 Sonata has this noise which I notice mainly on level ground or descending a slight incline at any speed between 35 mph and 50 mph. Like your situation, the transmission was silent until about 2,000 miles had rolled up. If I let off the accelerator pedal, it ceases immediately. It's never present when climbing a hill or accelerating either. The dealers in my area refuse to do anything about it, so I live with it. I figure if the transmission tanks anytime before I trade the car in three years, Hyundai will have to deal with it. In the meantime for your situation, you might try a different Hyundai dealership - they're not all "created" equal.
(By the way, the transmission in Hyundai frontwheel drive cars is no where near the gearshift lever. They're very compact units mounted transversely immediately to the right of the engine as you view from the front. Your perception that the noise emminates from below the gearshift lever is probably because it's being "telegraphed" through the transmission control cable which is attached to the shift lever.)
i'd still like to be able to choose it on or off. but it looks like the dealer has to make the change with the "scan tool". thanks all
The Sonata won best new family car(under $35,000.00)!!!
The Azera won the best new family car (over $35,000.00)!!!
see link at: www.ajac.ca
We will have to wait until February to see pick for overall 2006 Car of the year.
John
Cheers
Daniel
The Sonata was the choice for the family car of the year ("Sonata is the obvious choice..") and also won OVERALL CAR OF THE YEAR.
see: www.directshift.com
Apparently (I have not seen the actual article the Sonata has also won Best in Class and Best New Car from the U.S. magazine, Kiplinger's Personal Finance. The Sonata was apparently selected from more than 45 new models, including the Toyota Camry, the redesigned Honda Accord, Nissan Altima and Ford Fusion.
Okay, I offered $21,000 OTD (after tax, title, and applicable rebates - financing, LX rebate, and college graduate, etc) for the Sonata LX with the power moonroof and 6-cd changer but they wouldn't bite. The best deal they would offer me was $21,437.10 (to the penny) out the door. I was kind of disappointed, since I arrived with them telling me that they would at least beat the Fitzgerald and Cochran's deal of $21,576.00 at 5.69% financing.
Then they wouldn't give it to me for anything less than $21,437. So, Tenpin288, who did you talk to at Cochran? Would I be able to get his email address or something? I want to see if they will beat them - maybe around $21,000 OTD. Does anybody else think this was a good offer. They kept telling me that they were taking a loss at $21,437.10 already and couldn't go lower.
I would appreciate insight from any and all!
docjosh
Go to their web site:
Cochran's website
Click on the Hyundai logo to access the Hyundai site. Then click on the "View our Hyundai inventory" link. Once you get there, do a search for the 2006 Sonata. Once you do that, you will see a button displayed that when you click on it will bring up a web mail contact page. Fill it out for the model you are looking for along with your contact info. They will get back to you very quickly. I would give you their names but Edmund's protocols forbid that.
The deal they offered me sight unseen on an 06 Sonata LX with the premium package (msrp $24895) was $22500 before any rebates or TTL. (Still mulling it over. It may be a Xmas present if I can swing it.) Give it a whirl, you might get a worthwhile deal and if you are from Erie, it's only down I-79 and then over to Monroeville for you. A lot closer than FitzMall, etc.
http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/hyundai/hyundai_sonata.htm
RECALL: 2006 Hyundai Sonata
NHTSA Campaign Number: 05V377000 www.nhtsa.dot.gov
Manufacturer HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY
Recall Date: AUG 26, 2005
Potential Number Of Units Affected: 36000
Description SEATS:FRONT ASSEMBLY:RECLINER
Summary ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES, THE FRONT SEAT BELT MAY INTERFERE WITH THE MANUAL SEAT BACK RECLINER KNOB AND COULD CAUSE THE FRONT MANUAL SEAT BACK RECLINER TO INADVERTENTLY RELEASE.
Consequence THE INADVERTENT RELEASE OF A FRONT SEAT BACK RECLINER MAY RESULT IN INJURY TO VEHICLE OCCUPANTS.
Remedy DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE MANUAL SEAT BACK RECLINER KNOB(S). THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING OCTOBER 2005. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT HYUNDAI AT 1-800-633-5151.
RECALL: 2006 Hyundai Sonata
NHTSA Campaign Number: 05V316000 www.nhtsa.dot.gov
Manufacturer HYUNDAI MOTOR COMPANY
Recall Date: JUL 06, 2005
Potential Number Of Units Affected: 1970
Description SUSPENSION:AUTOMATIC STABILITY CONTROL (ASC)
Summary ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH 3.3 LITER ENGINES AND ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL (ESC), THE ESC MAY HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED TO BE OVERSENSITIVE TO THE ONSET OF OVERSTEERING WHILE DRIVING ON BANKED CURVES, CAUSING INADVERTENT APPLICATION OF THE FRONT OUTSIDE BRAKE WHEN ESC ACTIVATION MAY NOT BE NEEDED.
Consequence THIS MAY CAUSE THE VEHICLE TO SLOW AND MAY AFFECT THE PATH THAT THE VEHICLE IS TRAVELING. BRAKE APPLICATION CAUSED BY INADVERTENT ESC ACTIVATION MAY RESULT IN A CRASH.
Remedy DEALERS WILL REPROGRAM THE ESC HYDRAULIC ELECTRONIC CONTROL UNIT. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JULY 29, 2005. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT HYUNDAI AT 1-800-633-5151.
http://www.lemonauto.com/complaints/hyundai/hyundai_sonata.htm
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Cars which need to be fixed were contacted by mail!
If you didn't already get a notice from Hyundai: that means your car is not concerned!
At least they are recalling them right away; unlike Ford/GM & co who ignore the problems, until they are forced due to countless fatalities.
As far as to the link given; it is nothing but another kind of despicable "ambulance chasers".
I have the exact same thing (although I did not hear for the first time this morning) It is a click type of noise from the front undercarriage it sounds like. The first time I go forward. I have a GLS 4 cyl made in the Asan plant in Korea. I don't know what it is either.
Thx very much for shining some light on this. I will turn the ESC off and see if I hear it or not. I also have another sound when I first take off. I sounds like a booooing (kind of rubber band twang type sound) I had a very similar sound in my 94 Jeep when I switch from AC to heat or vice versa it was a shifting of the vent position I assume. In the Sonata case I don't even have my A/C on and it does it. It sounds to me to be some kind of deliberate/normal sound I just don't know what it is.
after the recall notice, you shouldn't have a problem.
I'm wondering if anyone with a 4 cyl has had the car full of adults and how well it pulls? uphill? what about with air?
Also I see people talking of the 5 speed that comes with the V6, searching a lot on hills. Worries me a bit as this is a new transmission if i'm not mistaken.
I have a Sonata 2006 GLS 4cyl. Air conditioner blows ice cold and so did the Elantra I rented a year or two ago by the way. I don't think you need worry about that.
I got the 4 because of gas too. That is one reason I bought a new car. The pick up to me is fine even with a few people in the car. There is alittle hesitation when you punch it but no big deal. I am happy withthe 4 and I would tell you otherwise if I were not.
I test drove both and decided the 4-cylinder had enough performance, saved fuel, saved on insurance, and was fine for me. This engine is what the 6-cylinders of the 90's were in terms of ability. Not bad at all.
I decided on the 6. Reasons:
1. Price is very close, extra rebate on the 6
2. Extra options on the 6 like Solar Control Glass,
heavier suspension, 5 speed? not sure but I think so
3. Gas mileage is not that much better.
4. 6 is much, much quieter, especially when accelerating,
or high speed cruising.
5. No amount of gas savings is worth the extra
acceleration speed if you need it to avoid an
accident, which I have already.
6. I checked insurance difference, minimal.
I would suggest you do the same thing I did. Take
both on a nice long test drive, including high
speed entry onto an interstate, and around town.
Reset the trip computer on both before you leave.
Check the mpg when you get back.
Oh, and I had several 6's in the 90's, none were less
than 200 hp.