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The sedan retailed at $11,799 with the 5-speed manual, and $12,549 with an automatic; the wagon was $12,499 and $13,249 with the automatic. Add $435 for the destination charge.
I did not intend to buy a car that day, or even that year. I was there with a friend who was checking out the new Santa Fe. I looked at the Elantra and liked it.
The salesguy wanted to know if he made me an offer I could not refuse, would I buy a car that day. I said sure, by definition I'd have to.
I looked at the Elantras and chose one. Test drove it and went into the cubicle. He wanted full price. I made one offer only.
About an hour later they shuttled me off to the finance guy so he could give me his pitch on options, financing and extended warranties. I did not bite.
$9999 before TT&L.
I knew I'd offered too much. But that's because I was not really prepared.
I did not make that mistake again.
No real regrets though. It was a great car. Cheap, economical, roomy, powerful and fun to drive.
Check with a chiropractor.
I subsequently learned from this forum that there is no such prepayment restriction; and that the dealership gets a commission on the loan only if it's in effect for a minimum of 90 days. Ergo, the Finance Manager's bold deception. I've also learned that many of the forum members had expressed disappointment with their interest rates from HMFC, and have repaid their loans forthwith.
Had the loan been in the 5 to 7% range, I would have deemed it fair, and would have had no problem with it; but 12.35% is an out-and-out insult. Needless to say, after researching via the 'Net, yesterday I contacted a local bank, opened an account, and applied for a loan. I am happy to report that the loan was approved the same day, at a slightly more palatable 5.325%, and HMFC will get their first -- only, and last -- payment early next week.
But I am very happy with the Elantra wagon, it has been good to us so far.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I noticed the same thing~going through our owners manual & assorted "stuff" in the plastic bag I noticed a couple 2" sqaures of black foam w/ a peel-back adhesive on them. I decided to try one of those foam squares right under the ignition switch so the keys would rest on it rather than the hard plastic. So far so good, no noise whatsoever and the keys hide the black foam so it really isn't an eyesore. Hope that helps, as it's truly a shame to have anything disrupt the awesome "quietness" of our Sonatas.
no problem. I drove back from the casino last Friday,
about 70 miles, in a snowstorm, coming off Lake Erie,
ice under 4 to 6 inches of snow on the road, and I was
easily passing most cars, and keeping up with the SUVs.
Only time I have ever spun the tires is when I actually
tried to. Might be a difference with the 17 inch wheels,
but I wouldn't think that much difference.
Much, much better than my previous 2000 V6 Accord in
the snow.
this is subjective, when so many are complaining about
the seat, and I have heard that the seat will be
redesigned for the next model year. If there are so
many people here complaining about the seat, how many
more that don't even read this forum are having a problem
with the seat.
Congrats on your new car, but I think you might need to
take it easy. Is the Azera next?
Even if you have to walk to work certainly wait to buy!
I too finance with them HMFC to get the rebate. From the beginning I intended to pay this right off and I told them that. The sales manager said I had to wait 90 days. The finance lady was saying 6 months but wasn't sure and contacted the sales guy who said 90 days. She agreed then with him. I thought they were all just ignorant. Seems funny he came up with 90 days ;0) The rate they gave me was 6.9 I did not argue with them because i will pay off.
Also my co-worker who is big time pro Honda says his seat in his 2003 Accord is also very uncomfortable - he complains about that ALL the time.
There were a million 6 cyl on the lot and the salesman tried to talk me into buying one (since we couldn't find a suitable 4 cyl finally one cam back from a test drive). Kept saying the milelage wasn't that different.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Now if you really want an uncomfortable drivers seat there's always the Sonata. Sat in one today, and the Azera (which I drove). Hyundai can build a nice car but they can't seem to craft a drivers seat that will tilt up a bit so you don't feel like you'll slide off it. Azera's was the same as the Sonata.
The Sonata is the clear choice over the Azera IMO considering the price. The extra $6000 (and no rebates) doesn't seem to get you much more than the Sonata.
Just fix the seat.
And you were talking about the pro-Hyundai guys being worse than the Hyundai bashers?
Hyundai can design a driver's seat that will tilt up a bit in front. They have made them for years and put them in even their least-expensive model, the Accent. They are also in the Elantra, Tucson, Santa Fe, and Tiburon. (I haven't sat in an Azera yet.) What is unfortunate is that Hyundai changed the seat design for the '06 Sonata so the manual seat uses a single lever instead of the dual knobs, so it isn't as adjustable as on earlier Sonatas and most other Hyundais. I hope Hyundai will rectify that. I found the power seat to be more adjustable than the manual seat.
Then I start to loose head room, anyway raising the seat will not make it more comfortable.
And isn't this car way out of your price range, considering you only want inexpensive Hyundais?
No its not out of my price range I recently bought a Caddy. I preferred lower priced cars as a daily drive because until recently I put on a lot of miles on a car (a few years I put on 50k miles a year).
Why bother looking at an Accord? So you can rag on it because you sat in one? C'mon man.
I looked at the Accord so I have something to base comments on. Unlike some people I will actually look and touch something to get first hand knowledge of what I am talking about. Now ragging on the accord? All I said was that the seats wear uncomfortable, and guess what? they are. I would hardly call that ragging on it.
Of course I cannot win this one, if I make any comment that isn't 100% positive on the Accord without checking on out I get jumped on for doing so without even experiencing the car. If I make a comment that isn't 100% after seeing the car first hand I get jumped on for seeing one so I can rag on it. Give me a break.
You pro-Hyundai guys are worse than the Hyundai bashers.
How so because we have to defend them against Hyundai bashers?
The Accord is a great car.
Did I ever say it wasn't? All I said was that the seats were uncomfortable. Guess what? They are.
Now if you really want an uncomfortable drivers seat there's always the Sonata.
Well 15 minutes before I sat in the Accord I sat in a Sonata. Both cars had leather seats and the Sonatas were far more comfortable than the Accords.
Hyundai can build a nice car but they can't seem to craft a drivers seat that will tilt up a bit so you don't feel like you'll slide off it.
I didn't feel that I was going to slide off the drivers seat in the Sonata. FWIW the seat went fully upright.
The Sonata is the clear choice over the Azera
Having never seen the Azera first hand I cannot comment (see I won't make any strong comments without seeing the car) but to say on paper it looks good. Now the car it is replacing (the XG 350) I would strongly agree, the interior IMO is not nearly as good (seems cheap) and doesn't have nearly the same amount of headroom.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
My current car is a honda cr-v 0-2 model.
Why didn't they put this seat in the Sonata then?
Gotta tell ya. This car's pulling me in. Test drove the Azera and kept comparing it to the Sonata as I was driving it. I feel the Sonata's a better value.
Sonata's price, the rebates, the safety features are all very attractive. But every other car I've been considering, from the 6, the Accord, the TL, even the Fusion, has a more adjustable drivers seat. Maybe its just me....but this is a company car for me. I'll be in it a lot. Wanna feel good about everything about the car.
But I don't see how the other cars have a more adjustable seat than the Sonata's. They all adjust similarly in manual mode, and the Sonata's power seat has adjustments for front and back of the bottom; seat back recline; fore-and-aft; lumbar; and headrest. What additional adjustments do cars like the Accord, Camry, and Fusion offer?
1. Intermittent rattle from the goggle case on the overhead console (with goggles in) (silly me, i just realized i didn't check to see if the rattle disappears if i take out the googles).
2. Sloshing sound from the gas tank when its full.
3. Vibrating metallic sound from the rear dash when I put on loud music with high base beats, the sound synchronous with base beats.
4. Intermittent second overlapping sound from the engine when I race the car. (don't know how to describe it better)
5. Metallic screeching sound when I reverse the car, (maybe due to partially applied brake in the cold weather)
6. And I guess this is 'tappet noise', a tuk-tuk-tuk noise coming from the engine when idling at traffic lights.
This forum is helpful in pacifying our fears, seeing that lot other car owners have these problems and its not only our particular car that is faulty.
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City mileage - have you checked to make sure your tires are properly inflated? Lots of posts on this forum about varying inflation pressures. If yours are underinflated, particularly, it can cause crappy mileage. That, along with crappy driving habits.
1. Goggle case rattle might not be because of your glasses. I had a rattle in that area of my GLS that had to be fixed with foam tape at the dealer.
2. Never had the gas tank sloshing sound in mine, but I read posts from others who did. Not sure what you can do about that one.
3. One (or both) of your back speakers might be blown. Do you have your stereo set up with a lot of fade to the rear? If so, your factory speakers probably couldn't handle all the bass, and buzz now as a result of prior strain.
4. Not sure about the intermittent overlapping sound you describe - never had it in my GLS with sport package, which is the same as an LX in terms of suspension, engine, wheels, etc. All I can think is that maybe the engine is noisier when you race it because you're revving it higher, or maybe you're starting to hear the exhaust too? You've stumped me on this one.
5. I would imagine that the metallic screech IS due to applying the brakes partially, especially if you park your car outdoors and the brakes get really cold (or damp from snow) before you use them again.
6. Never heard the tuk-tuk-tuk noise when idling at lights, either - that coupled with the noise from #4 makes me wonder if you shouldn't maybe have your valves and seals checked to make sure there are no irregularities. If so, I'm sure it would be covered under warranty.
Hope this helps!
extender, or something like that.
What is center steer anyway?
I presume that's kwonc71's description of "on-center feel". (and, then again, maybe not...)
Your experience is not unusual at all! A good buddy of mine is a Dr and has a fair amount of money to say the least. He bought a Lexus GS 300 last year amd liked it enough but didn't want to put alot of miles on it (why buy a car if you don't want to drive it? - anyway.) He bought a 2006 Sonata LX sunroof and all. He loves it and prefers it to the Lexus - hardly drives the Lexus at all now.
It is the ole Marketing 101 lesson on the continuum of buyers acceptance from early adaptors to laggarts. I have always been an early bird - but thats me. Stories like yours and my friend's are rapidly being shared and will find Hyundai climbing up the sales numbers rapidly.
Like I said, go test drive 2003 3.2 TL, other than just guess that TL is better. I actually compared 2, you have not. Please open your mind. Things are changing everyday!
Can satellite radio be integrated with my stock radio? can I choose XM or Sirius? Anybody familiar with this?
The 03 TL didn't cost the guy $37K unless he was majorly ripped off. I almost bought an 02 TL and it was $28K. So the value drop you're referring to just isn't there. An 03 is basically three years old too.
Regardless, what do you think a 3 year old Sonata will be worth? I'll bet you its depreciation factor is much higher than the Acura's. You're comparing apples and oranges. Anyway... Some of my trepidation in buying a Sonata is it's value after 3 years - or lack of - since I'll probably only keep the vehicle 3 years. Maybe a lease is the answer.
When looking at depreciation, I recommend you look not just at the "factor", or percentage, but actual dollars. One car might have a 50% depreciation after 3 years, another only 40% percent--which is better financially? Trick question--the answer is, they are the same! Because the car with 50% depreciation cost only $20k up front, while the car with 40% depreciation cost $25k.